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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by snausages on May 3, 2010 14:58:11 GMT 1,
You don't think doing there's anything odd about riding the DNCs ass while ripping apart the RNC and now acting non partisan and complaining about the two party system? There are real alternative options yet he decided to be a DNC spokesperson. It's yet another in a very long list of incongruous acts. So much of what he does doesn't match with his supposed philosophy and ideals. It's another thing to reinforce the idea that the work is all image and no substance.
You don't think doing there's anything odd about riding the DNCs ass while ripping apart the RNC and now acting non partisan and complaining about the two party system? There are real alternative options yet he decided to be a DNC spokesperson. It's yet another in a very long list of incongruous acts. So much of what he does doesn't match with his supposed philosophy and ideals. It's another thing to reinforce the idea that the work is all image and no substance.
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by boaty on May 3, 2010 15:20:04 GMT 1, You don't think doing there's anything odd about riding the DNCs ass while ripping apart the RNC and NOW trying to pretend to be non partisan and complain about the two party system?
Absolutely nothing odd about it. Any die-hard DNC, RNC or other party supporters who are not complaining about the current political system isn't engaged or just doesn't get it.
You don't think doing there's anything odd about riding the DNCs ass while ripping apart the RNC and NOW trying to pretend to be non partisan and complain about the two party system? Absolutely nothing odd about it. Any die-hard DNC, RNC or other party supporters who are not complaining about the current political system isn't engaged or just doesn't get it. |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by brittbritt on May 3, 2010 16:20:10 GMT 1, Shepard Fairey Obey Giant Mayday Jeffrey Deitch
What a dick... The body language in this little clip is incredible if you watch it without sound.
Shepard Fairey Obey Giant Mayday Jeffrey Deitch What a dick... The body language in this little clip is incredible if you watch it without sound. |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by snausages on May 3, 2010 17:32:46 GMT 1, You don't think doing there's anything odd about riding the DNCs ass while ripping apart the RNC and NOW trying to pretend to be non partisan and complain about the two party system? Absolutely nothing odd about it. Any die-hard DNC, RNC or other party supporters who are not complaining about the current political system isn't engaged or just doesn't get it.
Less than two years ago he was completely riding the DNC's you know what. Self appointed spokesperson for the DNC. And he's denigrated independent and third party candidates. He wholeheartedly without question supported the two party system. You don't support the problem and then complain that it is a problem without looking like a...
Fairey who mocked the idea of propoganda during his earlier career turned his whole supposed philosophy on its head by making and disseminating political propaganda for a major political party in earnest. Plus, it's a party that accepts billions in donations from major corporations, despite his supposed anti-corporate image.
Shepard Fairey who is what 40 yrs old and should know better that the two parties are in it for themselves. But even if he didn't know better fine, don't come out two years after helping strengthen the power of the two party system and pretend to be non partisan and unbiased.
The two party system has been broken for a VERY LONG time, it didn't just happen last month, don't pretend like you're independent and for changing the two party system after you did so much work less than two years ago to support it and while ignoring and trying to squash outsider opinions who were trying to change it.
It's not odd it's laughable.
You don't think doing there's anything odd about riding the DNCs ass while ripping apart the RNC and NOW trying to pretend to be non partisan and complain about the two party system? Absolutely nothing odd about it. Any die-hard DNC, RNC or other party supporters who are not complaining about the current political system isn't engaged or just doesn't get it. Less than two years ago he was completely riding the DNC's you know what. Self appointed spokesperson for the DNC. And he's denigrated independent and third party candidates. He wholeheartedly without question supported the two party system. You don't support the problem and then complain that it is a problem without looking like a... Fairey who mocked the idea of propoganda during his earlier career turned his whole supposed philosophy on its head by making and disseminating political propaganda for a major political party in earnest. Plus, it's a party that accepts billions in donations from major corporations, despite his supposed anti-corporate image. Shepard Fairey who is what 40 yrs old and should know better that the two parties are in it for themselves. But even if he didn't know better fine, don't come out two years after helping strengthen the power of the two party system and pretend to be non partisan and unbiased. The two party system has been broken for a VERY LONG time, it didn't just happen last month, don't pretend like you're independent and for changing the two party system after you did so much work less than two years ago to support it and while ignoring and trying to squash outsider opinions who were trying to change it. It's not odd it's laughable. |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by A.R.T. on May 3, 2010 22:17:27 GMT 1, Absolutely nothing odd about it. Any die-hard DNC, RNC or other party supporters who are not complaining about the current political system isn't engaged or just doesn't get it. Less than two years ago he was completely riding the DNC's you know what. Self appointed spokesperson for the DNC. And he's denigrated independent and third party candidates. He absolutely and wholeheartedly without question supported the two party system. You don't support the problem and then complain that it is a problem without looking like a... Mr Fairey who mocked the idea of propoganda during his earlier career turned his whole supposed philosophy on its head by making and disseminating political propaganda for a major political party in earnest. Plus, it's a party that accepts billions in donations from major corporations, despite his supposed anti-corporate image. Shepard Fairey who is what 40 yrs old and should know better that the two parties are in it for themselves. But even if he didn't know better fine, just don't come out two years after helping strengthen the power of the two party system and then pretend to be non partisan and unbiased and wanting to fix it. The two party system has been broken for a VERY LONG time, it didn't just happen last month, don't pretend like you're independent and for changing the two party system after you did so much work less than two years ago to support it and while ignoring and trying to squash outsider opinions who were trying to change it. It's not odd it's laughable.
Shep was not advocating for the DNC, just Obama so I think you are mistaken in that aspect. Get over yourself. Everybody has the right to their own opinion, and the right to change that opinion based on the changes in society.
Absolutely nothing odd about it. Any die-hard DNC, RNC or other party supporters who are not complaining about the current political system isn't engaged or just doesn't get it. Less than two years ago he was completely riding the DNC's you know what. Self appointed spokesperson for the DNC. And he's denigrated independent and third party candidates. He absolutely and wholeheartedly without question supported the two party system. You don't support the problem and then complain that it is a problem without looking like a... Mr Fairey who mocked the idea of propoganda during his earlier career turned his whole supposed philosophy on its head by making and disseminating political propaganda for a major political party in earnest. Plus, it's a party that accepts billions in donations from major corporations, despite his supposed anti-corporate image. Shepard Fairey who is what 40 yrs old and should know better that the two parties are in it for themselves. But even if he didn't know better fine, just don't come out two years after helping strengthen the power of the two party system and then pretend to be non partisan and unbiased and wanting to fix it. The two party system has been broken for a VERY LONG time, it didn't just happen last month, don't pretend like you're independent and for changing the two party system after you did so much work less than two years ago to support it and while ignoring and trying to squash outsider opinions who were trying to change it. It's not odd it's laughable. Shep was not advocating for the DNC, just Obama so I think you are mistaken in that aspect. Get over yourself. Everybody has the right to their own opinion, and the right to change that opinion based on the changes in society. |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by snausages on May 3, 2010 22:49:48 GMT 1, I can't see how you can say that when he was making very many posts on his website about politics, during and after the Obama election. Go back and look through the news feed on his website. He didn't just advocate for Obama but lots of rants against the RNC and for the agenda of the DNC and pro democrats in congress. If you say that's not being an advocate for the DNC I don't know what is.
To be fair if someone came along that he really liked and they just happened to align with the DNC I could kind of understand but he really took the mantle and professed not just for Obama but the entire democratic platform and was very partisan by being so anti RNC. He very much ingratiated himself within the democratic party. There are just so many conceptual and philosophical missteps in his career that I can't give him a pass anymore. He did set himself a very righteous (difficult) path to try and follow, and in my opinion he has failed in following through on the ideals that he espouses so many times.
I can't see how you can say that when he was making very many posts on his website about politics, during and after the Obama election. Go back and look through the news feed on his website. He didn't just advocate for Obama but lots of rants against the RNC and for the agenda of the DNC and pro democrats in congress. If you say that's not being an advocate for the DNC I don't know what is.
To be fair if someone came along that he really liked and they just happened to align with the DNC I could kind of understand but he really took the mantle and professed not just for Obama but the entire democratic platform and was very partisan by being so anti RNC. He very much ingratiated himself within the democratic party. There are just so many conceptual and philosophical missteps in his career that I can't give him a pass anymore. He did set himself a very righteous (difficult) path to try and follow, and in my opinion he has failed in following through on the ideals that he espouses so many times.
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by anodyne13 on May 3, 2010 23:24:09 GMT 1, Practically speaking the reason their is a two-party system is that in a democratic system with more than two parties allegiances will be made between those parties that are most similar in viewpoint against the party with the most dis-similar viewpoint in order to gain the majority. This is what you have now and is why a 3-party system or alternative party has not been successful and will not be successful. Even independent candidates that get elected tend to side with one of the two parties on a majority of issues.
I would also say that in my opinion Shepard Fairey is an idealist. I think he tends to see issues as black and white, right and wrong, without too many shades of gray. I also feel that this comes across in his art which is often idealistic in its literal message, but also aesthetically there is often not much ambiguity or subtly. I think he supported a candidate that he felt help up to his ideals and was disappointed when he felt there was evidence that this candidate did not live up to his ideals, and frankly I dont think you can find anything wrong with that. Any issues that one might have in Fairey or anybody's support of a political candidate are most likely rooted in ones own biased personal political views than on any valid condemnation of an individual for simply changing their position on a candidate or party based upon the performance of that candidate/party.
Practically speaking the reason their is a two-party system is that in a democratic system with more than two parties allegiances will be made between those parties that are most similar in viewpoint against the party with the most dis-similar viewpoint in order to gain the majority. This is what you have now and is why a 3-party system or alternative party has not been successful and will not be successful. Even independent candidates that get elected tend to side with one of the two parties on a majority of issues.
I would also say that in my opinion Shepard Fairey is an idealist. I think he tends to see issues as black and white, right and wrong, without too many shades of gray. I also feel that this comes across in his art which is often idealistic in its literal message, but also aesthetically there is often not much ambiguity or subtly. I think he supported a candidate that he felt help up to his ideals and was disappointed when he felt there was evidence that this candidate did not live up to his ideals, and frankly I dont think you can find anything wrong with that. Any issues that one might have in Fairey or anybody's support of a political candidate are most likely rooted in ones own biased personal political views than on any valid condemnation of an individual for simply changing their position on a candidate or party based upon the performance of that candidate/party.
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by boaty on May 3, 2010 23:57:22 GMT 1, Practically speaking the reason their is a two-party system is that in a democratic system with more than two parties allegiances will be made between those parties that are most similar in viewpoint against the party with the most dis-similar viewpoint in order to gain the majority. This is what you have now and is why a 3-party system or alternative party has not been successful and will not be successful. Even independent candidates that get elected tend to side with one of the two parties on a majority of issues. I would also say that in my opinion Shepard Fairey is an idealist. I think he tends to see issues as black and white, right and wrong, without too many shades of gray. I also feel that this comes across in his art which is often idealistic in its literal message, but also aesthetically there is often not much ambiguity or subtly. I think he supported a candidate that he felt help up to his ideals and was disappointed when he felt there was evidence that this candidate did not live up to his ideals, and frankly I dont think you can find anything wrong with that. Any issues that one might have in Fairey or anybody's support of a political candidate are most likely rooted in ones own biased personal political views than on any valid condemnation of an individual for simply changing their position on a candidate or party based upon the performance of that candidate/party.
Yep!
Practically speaking the reason their is a two-party system is that in a democratic system with more than two parties allegiances will be made between those parties that are most similar in viewpoint against the party with the most dis-similar viewpoint in order to gain the majority. This is what you have now and is why a 3-party system or alternative party has not been successful and will not be successful. Even independent candidates that get elected tend to side with one of the two parties on a majority of issues. I would also say that in my opinion Shepard Fairey is an idealist. I think he tends to see issues as black and white, right and wrong, without too many shades of gray. I also feel that this comes across in his art which is often idealistic in its literal message, but also aesthetically there is often not much ambiguity or subtly. I think he supported a candidate that he felt help up to his ideals and was disappointed when he felt there was evidence that this candidate did not live up to his ideals, and frankly I dont think you can find anything wrong with that. Any issues that one might have in Fairey or anybody's support of a political candidate are most likely rooted in ones own biased personal political views than on any valid condemnation of an individual for simply changing their position on a candidate or party based upon the performance of that candidate/party. Yep! |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by boaty on May 3, 2010 23:58:44 GMT 1, Less than two years ago he was completely riding the DNC's you know what. Self appointed spokesperson for the DNC. And he's denigrated independent and third party candidates. He absolutely and wholeheartedly without question supported the two party system. You don't support the problem and then complain that it is a problem without looking like a... Mr Fairey who mocked the idea of propoganda during his earlier career turned his whole supposed philosophy on its head by making and disseminating political propaganda for a major political party in earnest. Plus, it's a party that accepts billions in donations from major corporations, despite his supposed anti-corporate image. Shepard Fairey who is what 40 yrs old and should know better that the two parties are in it for themselves. But even if he didn't know better fine, just don't come out two years after helping strengthen the power of the two party system and then pretend to be non partisan and unbiased and wanting to fix it. The two party system has been broken for a VERY LONG time, it didn't just happen last month, don't pretend like you're independent and for changing the two party system after you did so much work less than two years ago to support it and while ignoring and trying to squash outsider opinions who were trying to change it. It's not odd it's laughable. Shep was not advocating for the DNC, just Obama so I think you are mistaken in that aspect. Get over yourself. Everybody has the right to their own opinion, and the right to change that opinion based on the changes in society.
Yep!
Less than two years ago he was completely riding the DNC's you know what. Self appointed spokesperson for the DNC. And he's denigrated independent and third party candidates. He absolutely and wholeheartedly without question supported the two party system. You don't support the problem and then complain that it is a problem without looking like a... Mr Fairey who mocked the idea of propoganda during his earlier career turned his whole supposed philosophy on its head by making and disseminating political propaganda for a major political party in earnest. Plus, it's a party that accepts billions in donations from major corporations, despite his supposed anti-corporate image. Shepard Fairey who is what 40 yrs old and should know better that the two parties are in it for themselves. But even if he didn't know better fine, just don't come out two years after helping strengthen the power of the two party system and then pretend to be non partisan and unbiased and wanting to fix it. The two party system has been broken for a VERY LONG time, it didn't just happen last month, don't pretend like you're independent and for changing the two party system after you did so much work less than two years ago to support it and while ignoring and trying to squash outsider opinions who were trying to change it. It's not odd it's laughable. Shep was not advocating for the DNC, just Obama so I think you are mistaken in that aspect. Get over yourself. Everybody has the right to their own opinion, and the right to change that opinion based on the changes in society. Yep! |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Daniel Silk on May 4, 2010 16:21:45 GMT 1, Shepard Fairey - Deitch - Mayday - May 1, 2010
Shepard Fairey - Deitch - Mayday - May 1, 2010
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by snausages on May 4, 2010 18:54:43 GMT 1, LOL great comments boaty.
Wow, that's an extremely pessimistic and shortsighted viewpoint in my opinion.
You can say what you want. All I have to say is I was honestly shocked when I saw that image and read the title. It instantly blew me away the moment I saw it - that he would come out with that statement complaining about the two party system now, only two years after he very consciously and actively made the system stronger.
Furthermore I'm not taking a side on "political views" here, I'm taking issue with the system. It isn't a "biased political view," this has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. One side doesn't necessarily have more to gain than the other. Maybe he can't see beyond black and white and understand how much outside potential there is to fix the problem. But it is really unfortunate that someone who purports to be so politically aware and renegade is confining himself within the normal and accepted conventions. I really hoped for and would have expected more creative and radical thinking from this guy.
LOL great comments boaty.
Wow, that's an extremely pessimistic and shortsighted viewpoint in my opinion.
You can say what you want. All I have to say is I was honestly shocked when I saw that image and read the title. It instantly blew me away the moment I saw it - that he would come out with that statement complaining about the two party system now, only two years after he very consciously and actively made the system stronger.
Furthermore I'm not taking a side on "political views" here, I'm taking issue with the system. It isn't a "biased political view," this has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. One side doesn't necessarily have more to gain than the other. Maybe he can't see beyond black and white and understand how much outside potential there is to fix the problem. But it is really unfortunate that someone who purports to be so politically aware and renegade is confining himself within the normal and accepted conventions. I really hoped for and would have expected more creative and radical thinking from this guy.
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by boaty on May 5, 2010 23:32:38 GMT 1, This week's Time Out NY cover by Shep......
as always, apologies for the lousy pic.....
This week's Time Out NY cover by Shep...... as always, apologies for the lousy pic..... |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Sacked... on May 5, 2010 23:34:41 GMT 1, Is that an old image ?
Is that an old image ?
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by boaty on May 5, 2010 23:36:27 GMT 1,
Yes, image released in 2009...GLOBAL WARNING
Yes, image released in 2009...GLOBAL WARNING |
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by stenev on May 5, 2010 23:39:03 GMT 1, Slightly modified from the one using 'The Sun' paper and now uses a copy of 'Time Out'
edit: removed duplicate pic
Also, speaking of 'The Sun' and Shep check out the front page for tomorrow in the other thread.
Slightly modified from the one using 'The Sun' paper and now uses a copy of 'Time Out'
edit: removed duplicate pic
Also, speaking of 'The Sun' and Shep check out the front page for tomorrow in the other thread.
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Sacked... on May 5, 2010 23:54:07 GMT 1, Cameron is not quite as inspiring though !!
Cameron is not quite as inspiring though !!
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by stenev on May 6, 2010 0:05:25 GMT 1, Now THAT is an understatement!
Now THAT is an understatement!
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Deleted on May 7, 2010 7:01:54 GMT 1, just received tracking info, print is expected the 12th! woehoe!
just received tracking info, print is expected the 12th! woehoe!
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Daniel Silk on May 8, 2010 11:47:53 GMT 1,
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Daniel Silk on May 8, 2010 11:49:59 GMT 1,
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Daniel Silk on May 8, 2010 11:52:27 GMT 1, Shepard Fairey May Day opening
Shepard Fairey May Day opening
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Shepard Fairey "MAY DAY" Deitch, by Daniel Silk on May 10, 2010 14:18:18 GMT 1, Shepard Fairey opening at Jeffrey Deitch Gallery, May 1, 2010
Shepard Fairey opening at Jeffrey Deitch Gallery, May 1, 2010
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