[Winter]

I have a Signed Jack & Jill which I got framed having been told it had been professionally framed. When I opened the frame the print had not been so there was slight marking on the front of the print where the mount had been and a mark on the back of the print.

I could frame this which would hide any damage and sell as perfect but I would never do as not in my nature. So, I am selling this in an open and honest manner at a price that reflects the condition of the print.

It is possible that a restorer could bring this print back to A1 condition. It's not really something I know about.

I have shown a pic of it how I received it and a pic of the marking.

If you are interested let me know. I have all history and recently got the Pest Control certificate to go with it. Whoever offers the most gets it, the figure I have in my head is surprisingly low!

[nigelbgg]

Ball park?

[AFR1KA]

pmd

[dmf]

Price please

[Winter]

Had a ton of PMs which I will try and get through tonight. Thanks for all the interest

[craigf]

Apr 17, 2010 19:34:22 GMT 1 Winter said:

Had a ton of PMs which I will try and get through tonight. Thanks for all the interest

Not surprised based on your low expectation!

[Sacked...]

I'm not sure even a great conservator could get that big red mark out.

[craigf]

Apr 17, 2010 21:04:27 GMT 1 Sacked... said:

I'm not sure even a great conservator could get that big red mark out.

True and right over the numbering as well

[Rsyok]

Apr 17, 2010 22:24:16 GMT 1 craigf said:

Apr 17, 2010 21:04:27 GMT 1 Sacked... said:

I'm not sure even a great conservator could get that big red mark out.

True and right over the numbering as well

Im sure in the right hands it could be reduced to a light pink dot

[Winter]

Hi,

thanks again for all the PMs. Absolutely loads and a fair few good offers - the average offer is around £1600 which is roughly what I was thinking. I'm thinking the fairest thing to do would be to take a load more shots so everyone is in no doubt of the piece then put it on ebay on a 3 day sale. Please note I will be doing this while everyone is either laying in the sun or in the pub.

[craigf]

Apr 18, 2010 14:31:59 GMT 1 Winter said:

Hi,

thanks again for all the PMs. Absolutely loads and a fair few good offers - the average offer is around £1600 which is roughly what I was thinking. I'm thinking the fairest thing to do would be to take a load more shots so everyone is in no doubt of the piece then put it on ebay on a 3 day sale. Please note I will be doing this while everyone is either laying in the sun or in the pub.

Sounds a very fair proposal ;D

[Winter]

Now on ebay with a 3 day auction - 99p starting price. Sorry if I didn't get back to you but I thought this would be the fairest way. Have also posted more pics.

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230463948100

[Deleted]

very good description on ebay.. if someone doesnt notice, it is his own fault. Nice to see how you handled this! my compiments

[OutsideIn]

very honest with the damage here, shame that you didnt know about it in the first place.

[Winter]

Got it in a swap deal for my beloved Neate WSP framed by John Jones.

[craigf]

Well it has hit £1,600 already.....

[streetartisdead]

call me a cynic, but this this thread was simply to garner a load of interest and ensure the piece sold for alot more that than the '1600' - well done if I'd thought of that I'd have done it too

agree with casper below, a warning on the said swapper would be appreciated

[stevieray101]

Apr 19, 2010 8:24:00 GMT 1 @streetartisdead said:

call me a cynic, but this this thread was simply to garner a load of interest and ensure the piece sold for alot more that than the '1600' - well done if I'd thought of that I'd have done it too

agree with casper below, a warning on the said swapper would be appreciated

nah winter is a decent person, they've been on here a while and always seem top drawer to me.

[Winter]

The only master plan behind this sale was to be honest with the condition. I could have easily framed this and stuck it on eBay or into auction. That kind of actioned would have only stitched up someone further down the line. I'm flattered that some people think this was some kind of pre-planned exercise but that is not the case. Thanks also to the person who contacted me through eBay suggesting there is something strange going on with the bidding.I could just accept one of the offers I've had to take it off eBay but I'll be accused of planning that also.
The sale is legit, I'm being honest and upfront and I think the fairest thing to do is to leave it on eBay.

[jwart]

well said

[denmeadmichelle]

You thought it was worth £1600, You recieved offers on the forum of £1600, then you stuck it on the bay ?
Why didnt you just sell it to the best forum offer?

[kennas]

Apr 20, 2010 10:41:57 GMT 1 denmeadmichelle said:

You thought it was worth £1600, You recieved offers on the forum of £1600, then you stuck it on the bay ?
Why didnt you just sell it to the best forum offer?

Perhaps he thought he could get a bit more? I doubt much though to be honest after fees. It's Winters to do with what he likes!

[Winter]

I actually had offers of over £1850. The only reason I put it on ebay was to make it easier to decide who gets it. Whatever happens I'm out of pocket so it's just a case of getting back what I can without shafting anyone.

[denmeadmichelle]

It makes sence mate that you want as much as you can get for it, just seems strange that in your first post you wrote " Whoever offers the most gets it ". what changed??

[Winter]

Just the sheer volume of interested people. Took ages to read through them and there were lots of people offering similar amounts. I didn't want to start managing a bidding process so used ebay to do the work for me. Some people might call it laziness and they'd probably be right.

[denmeadmichelle]

Fair enough winter. its a cracking image, hope you get a good price and i hope it goes to a good home.