[grantb]

Mar 28, 2009 15:29:05 GMT 1 iwouldfollow youanywhere said:

Mar 28, 2009 14:21:01 GMT 1 goffy said:

I will tell you why Pez, it is because people are obviously not getting the message. Eine's continuous rehash of the alphabet, with or without the 'W' is just a blatant rip off, and yes you are a mug if you waste your money on it. As long as he continues with this unimaginative nonsense then I will continue to vent my spleen on the matter. But, I did say that I liked Eine's Andy Warhol prints so I am not dismissing him totally. And as far as that charlatan, rip off merchant Hirst goes, I will never ever stop having a go at him unless he does something original and becomes what he is supposed to be, an artist. I wont be holding my breath.

you are a total c u n t

a massive, gaping, brown northern arsehole.

of course you hate eine, you probably never got off your fat arse and seen his work all over the shutters and walls of london town.

i cannot take anyone seriously who has a Nick Walker f**king avatar, now theres a one-trick cash cow milking pony for you.

now f u c k right off and carry on playing world of warcraft you tool

have a nice weekend

walker isnt a one trick pony either.

[graeme501]

eine is iconic and would love to have a canvas, when u visit london, its always good to look out for a street piece, thats the appeal for me, connecting the memory of seeing a shutter or wall with having something at home

[sixftjellybaby]

Mar 28, 2009 17:06:28 GMT 1 @graeme501 said:

eine is iconic and would love to have a canvas, when u visit london, its always good to look out for a street piece, thats the appeal for me, connecting the memory of seeing a shutter or wall with having something at home

Totally agree, it’s brilliant when a print or canvas can take you back to when you saw it first as a street piece. I got dotmasters load of rubbish after seeing it at cans now every time I look at it it makes me smile.

[griffermans]

If they do a print I'm defo having one to teach the boy his ABC's!

[baznyc]

Mar 28, 2009 4:57:50 GMT 1 goffy said:

If you buy this you are a mug.

If you buy this as an investment then you are a mug, you will never make any money on it.

If you buy this because you like it, then I'm sorry you can't get a girl friend and have no mates but this is not going to make you or your walls any more interesting, you are a mug.

I am sure that deep down Eine has some talent buried, but his alphabet is a one trick pony. And no matter what the 'informed' people on here tell the alphabet pieces are a joke gone too far, and you would be an idiot to indulge Eine anymore by buying this unimaginative bollox. Spend your money on something more interesting and aesthetically more pleasing.

If you continue to repeat yourself then you are boring

If you continue to lecture people on what they should like then you are boring.

If you cast aspersions on peoples character and lives based on your perception of art then you are...yep, boring.

Unless you are Goffy, then you're just a t**t.

[grantb]

Mar 28, 2009 20:02:27 GMT 1 @griffermans said:

If they do a print I'm defo having one to teach the boy his ABC's!

that wouldnt be a very good idea as its missing 'w'.

[mcnuts]

a fun thread to read but gotta side with Pez on this one

[Guest]

great read, NOT.

agree with Pez, Eine is a legend.

[etched]

'what it means' on UA - class - every house should have an eine !

[goffy]

Mar 28, 2009 15:29:05 GMT 1 iwouldfollow youanywhere said:

Mar 28, 2009 14:21:01 GMT 1 goffy said:

I will tell you why Pez, it is because people are obviously not getting the message. Eine's continuous rehash of the alphabet, with or without the 'W' is just a blatant rip off, and yes you are a mug if you waste your money on it. As long as he continues with this unimaginative nonsense then I will continue to vent my spleen on the matter. But, I did say that I liked Eine's Andy Warhol prints so I am not dismissing him totally. And as far as that charlatan, rip off merchant Hirst goes, I will never ever stop having a go at him unless he does something original and becomes what he is supposed to be, an artist. I wont be holding my breath.

you are a total c u n t

a massive, gaping, brown northern arsehole.

of course you hate eine, you probably never got off your fat arse and seen his work all over the shutters and walls of london town.

i cannot take anyone seriously who has a Nick Walker f**king avatar, now theres a one-trick cash cow milking pony for you.

now f u c k right off and carry on playing world of warcraft you tool

have a nice weekend

Ha, ha, ha. Nice to see the morons have a spokesman/woman. I think you will find that London is a city, I know I lived there for 7 years. Unlike you, the only time that I have ever seen Warcraft was on South Park.

Anyway, despite you childish insults I stand by everything I said. Although I have only seen pictures of Eine's letters on shutters, I am sure they looked good and original when he first done them many years ago. And as far as he helped Banksy and worked as a screenprinter at POW, you would have hoped that some of that talent would have rubbed off on him, obviously it hasn't. Check out the boring alphabets, the care bears and the other crap he did with the pictures of kids. It is like he only gets inspiration when he goes to a nursery. I am sure that most of the people who have attacked me (yawn) have pieces by Eine, that's your choice. But I repeat that the rehash of the alphabet in different fonts lacks imagination, skill and artistic merit. So f u c k you!

PS. Hirst is talentless arse wipe (that's for Pez)

[alexiocowabunga]

Hi Goffy, it is understandable why you do not like EINE's works he has done, it can seem to some that it is very repetitive and not very imaginative. However, the skill in composing a new typeface each time is very creative. for you to dismiss so easily shows maybe a lack of understanding in the amount of work and originality that has gone in to his pieces.

Also, I like might to add, it is not very clever or smart to be swearing at strangers just because you disagree with them, please grow up both of you.

[snausages]

I like this canvas and generally like Eine. Visually I think his work is often appealing, especially when you make the connection with his streetwork. But think some criticism might be stemming from (imo) the lack of concept in his work - he just doesn't seem to be taking it to the next level imo. His work reminds me of Tauba Auerbach who really has taken it to another level. He makes type canvases similar to Eine - but also has done many different things, such as this piece which is nuts. www.sfmoma.org/artwork/125794 - Maybe Eine will differentiate himself somehow oneday, maybe he doesn't need to. It is what it is and has its appeal none the less.

[alexiocowabunga]

That guys work is unbelievable, thanks for the heads up

[Joe J]

Mar 28, 2009 17:06:28 GMT 1 @graeme501 said:

eine is iconic and would love to have a canvas, when u visit london, its always good to look out for a street piece, thats the appeal for me, connecting the memory of seeing a shutter or wall with having something at home

Beautifully written. I agree with you totally Graeme.

I'll never dispute Eine's technical skills, his work is superbly crafted, but the Alphabet idea has been played out to many times, Eine needs to progress to the next level in my opinion.

Can someone please explain to me why he drops a letter out of the alphabet and why is mostly 'W'? Is it simply because this adds up to an equal amount of letters and lines?

[European Bob]

legend.......total respect for eine,hes street work and hes canvas/print work.

[dynamixx]

EINE is a legend. Anyone that sees an ugly shutter in East London as a blank canvas, and is a total font nerd, is a star in my eyes. All those early Banksy and Hewletts screened by his fair hands too, enough said.

Goffy you're a tit mate.

[dynamixx]

Quick question for the haters. Ever been to East London? Walked through the SCARY tunnel? Been past EXCITING? Seen any shutters? Real life, not talking about flickr jpgs here.

[snausages]

[quote author=joej Can someone please explain to me why he drops a letter out of the alphabet and why is mostly 'W'? Is it simply because this adds up to an equal amount of letters and lines?[/quote]

Last in first out? I think W was the last letter added to the english language and isn't unique like other letters as it's a combination of two other letters. Pronounced double 'U' it's the combination of two Vs which evolved from the letter U. But I don't know if that's why Eine ignores it.

More: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W

[cashman]

Mar 28, 2009 14:32:53 GMT 1 @bradpitt said:

Who is Eine blatantly ripping off? himself? how can he be un-original, when he is the shutter king of London.. if you like it's his tag.

I hope you wasn't one of the many people slagging off the tox prints a week ago

[goffy]

There seems to be a mix bag of opinion and I am glad I was able to help in my own small way. Also, I would like to thank everyone for their kind words especially the people who took time out to send me a pm. It is nice to feel the love after so many negative posts. As Pure Evil had shown us with the south american print, 'Your heart is a weapon the size of your first, keep loving, keep fighting'

[graeme501]

the letter W is left out because it was never in the roman alphabet, and there is some connection between graffiti writers and the roman alphabet, but i cant quite remember it...

[moleman]

i think a square canvas with a custom w extention or seperate mini w canvas would be fun whatdo you think stella

[Octopus UK]

It's a protest against George W Bush - In the same spirit (allegedly), the letter W was removed from keyboards in the White House prior to George's arrival in 2001.

[thegreatarchitect]

Mar 29, 2009 3:41:20 GMT 1 @cashman said:

Mar 28, 2009 14:32:53 GMT 1 @bradpitt said:

Who is Eine blatantly ripping off? himself? how can he be un-original, when he is the shutter king of London.. if you like it's his tag.

I hope you wasn't one of the many people slagging off the tox prints a week ago

No that was me ;D ;D ;D

[bradpitt]

New Eine (I thinks)

www.flickr.com/photos/howaboutno/3398291353/

Thanks to Howaboutno for the photo

[etched]

Mar 30, 2009 18:17:27 GMT 1 @bradpitt said:

New Eine (I thinks)

www.flickr.com/photos/howaboutno/3398291353/

Thanks to Howaboutno for the photo

not even fully dry by the looks of it

[Andy'77]

Very nice, bet that took some time!

As a side not, looks like the record breaking print is going to be on a gold background:
thedailyduff.blogspot.com/2009/03/eines-midas-touch.html

[shower]

ben is a legend. his shutter work is one of the reasons i got into street art and graffiti in the first place. i was slightly sceptical about this canvas until i saw it propped up downstairs in stelladore on sat. its a real beauty, although is a long way out of my price range!

[baznyc]

Mar 29, 2009 9:45:08 GMT 1 @graeme501 said:

the letter W is left out because it was never in the roman alphabet, and there is some connection between graffiti writers and the roman alphabet, but i cant quite remember it...

That's not why he leaves it out Graeme, sorry mate but it's for a different reason.

[taxidermot]

Is it because he can stencil a w by using v twice?