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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by guest2 on Jan 18, 2008 23:19:24 GMT 1, anyone know where the signature is on these (front/back) ? Also is it the newer signature? Sorry if it's been answered already.
anyone know where the signature is on these (front/back) ? Also is it the newer signature? Sorry if it's been answered already.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by mammal2 on Jan 19, 2008 0:19:16 GMT 1, What Frankie said!
What Frankie said!
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by ejvaze on Jan 19, 2008 0:53:54 GMT 1, anyone know where the signature is on these (front/back) ? Also is it the newer signature? Sorry if it's been answered already.
Will let you all know as soon as I get mine.
Why was I negged on this thread? 
What did I do to offend?
All I said was I wasn't interested in the monetary value.
OK my 1st neg 
anyone know where the signature is on these (front/back) ? Also is it the newer signature? Sorry if it's been answered already. Will let you all know as soon as I get mine. Why was I negged on this thread? What did I do to offend? All I said was I wasn't interested in the monetary value. OK my 1st neg |
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by darjeeling on Jan 19, 2008 2:28:45 GMT 1, darjeeling, what world do you live in? It sounds cheap whereever it is!!!
But come on, have you not noticed that signed B&W Trolleys are selling for about £2.5k Coloured for about £1.5k Stop and Search for about £2k on a good day? And keep in mind there are only 500 of the S&S image available as opposed to over 1100 Flag images out there.
In those terms my estimate of about £3-4k for a signed flag is very generous. And if I were ever to drop as much as £5-10k on a signed Banksy it sure as hell wouldn't be a gold flag, it would be a much more iconic signed Bomb Hugger, signed Happy Chopper, signed Rat, (actually 2 signed Rats for that price) a signed LIITA etc.
darjeeling, what world do you live in? It sounds cheap whereever it is!!! And I' like to know what kind of fantasy land you live in? If you think $6000 to $8000 for a signed print that cost $1000 is cheap then put me in your will baby. You obviously have a vested interest in your promoting some mythic aura around these prints as you also bought a print in Bethlehem. But if you're so concerned about your 'experience' over the print than why do you constantly defend ridiculous prices for these? But come on, have you not noticed that signed B&W Trolleys are selling for about £2.5k Coloured for about £1.5k Stop and Search for about £2k on a good day? And keep in mind there are only 500 of the S&S image available as opposed to over 1100 Flag images out there. In those terms my estimate of about £3-4k for a signed flag is very generous. And if I were ever to drop as much as £5-10k on a signed Banksy it sure as hell wouldn't be a gold flag, it would be a much more iconic signed Bomb Hugger, signed Happy Chopper, signed Rat, (actually 2 signed Rats for that price) a signed LIITA etc. |
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by alsbabar on Jan 19, 2008 10:19:09 GMT 1, it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it - and that is the bottom line, not because others think its worth x amount of pounds. To me, it is worth £14K, perhaps more, because I weigh up all the factors, like cost of print, going to the place to get it, the limited numbers. As for the iconic status of the print, I also believe that the Gold Flag and Trolleys in Bethlehem, are truly iconic/epic prints, and has a much moral status to them. When have you ever heard Banksy go to the press and discuss an issues?
You just need to see others reactions to those who have been to get a feel for the magnitude of going to Santas Ghetto 2007. For those who have, its been life changing, for those who havent, they wish they had.
I dare say with your generous £3-4K, you wouldnt get close to owning one, as most people who went are not flippers, but avid collectors.
it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it - and that is the bottom line, not because others think its worth x amount of pounds. To me, it is worth £14K, perhaps more, because I weigh up all the factors, like cost of print, going to the place to get it, the limited numbers. As for the iconic status of the print, I also believe that the Gold Flag and Trolleys in Bethlehem, are truly iconic/epic prints, and has a much moral status to them. When have you ever heard Banksy go to the press and discuss an issues?
You just need to see others reactions to those who have been to get a feel for the magnitude of going to Santas Ghetto 2007. For those who have, its been life changing, for those who havent, they wish they had.
I dare say with your generous £3-4K, you wouldnt get close to owning one, as most people who went are not flippers, but avid collectors.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by klyde on Jan 19, 2008 10:49:57 GMT 1, it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it - and that is the bottom line, not because others think its worth x amount of pounds. To me, it is worth £14K, perhaps more, because I weigh up all the factors, like cost of print, going to the place to get it, the limited numbers. As for the iconic status of the print, I also believe that the Gold Flag and Trolleys in Bethlehem, are truly iconic/epic prints, and has a much moral status to them. When have you ever heard Banksy go to the press and discuss an issues? You just need to see others reactions to those who have been to get a feel for the magnitude of going to Santas Ghetto 2007. For those who have, its been life changing, for those who havent, they wish they had. I dare say with your generous £3-4K, you wouldnt get close to owning one, as most people who went are not flippers, but avid collectors.
Sorry mate, but I find that hilarious! £14k! ;D
Say I wanted one and was prepared to buy one.
The only thing I would be bothered about is will it look good on a wall and how little can I pay for it.
I wouldn't give a monkeys about the original buyers "life changing journey of discovery". What a load of 5hite. Its just another Banksy print. Its not that deep. None of it is.
Bumping the price up by £13k, simply because its was purchased in one of the biggest hell holes on earth, just shows how vulgar the art scene is.
Personally I didn't agree with the location of Santa's Ghetto 2007. Bold move yes. But I don't buy art due to some peoples plight that quite frankly will never be resolved. Especially not by some rich city boys that flew over at the drop of a hat to spend what would keep a local family in food for for a year on a 58x77 bit of wall decoration. Or worst still, keeping it in a fucking portfolio.
Neg all you want. It means nothing to me.
it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it - and that is the bottom line, not because others think its worth x amount of pounds. To me, it is worth £14K, perhaps more, because I weigh up all the factors, like cost of print, going to the place to get it, the limited numbers. As for the iconic status of the print, I also believe that the Gold Flag and Trolleys in Bethlehem, are truly iconic/epic prints, and has a much moral status to them. When have you ever heard Banksy go to the press and discuss an issues? You just need to see others reactions to those who have been to get a feel for the magnitude of going to Santas Ghetto 2007. For those who have, its been life changing, for those who havent, they wish they had. I dare say with your generous £3-4K, you wouldnt get close to owning one, as most people who went are not flippers, but avid collectors. Sorry mate, but I find that hilarious! £14k! ;D Say I wanted one and was prepared to buy one. The only thing I would be bothered about is will it look good on a wall and how little can I pay for it. I wouldn't give a monkeys about the original buyers "life changing journey of discovery". What a load of 5hite. Its just another Banksy print. Its not that deep. None of it is. Bumping the price up by £13k, simply because its was purchased in one of the biggest hell holes on earth, just shows how vulgar the art scene is. Personally I didn't agree with the location of Santa's Ghetto 2007. Bold move yes. But I don't buy art due to some peoples plight that quite frankly will never be resolved. Especially not by some rich city boys that flew over at the drop of a hat to spend what would keep a local family in food for for a year on a 58x77 bit of wall decoration. Or worst still, keeping it in a fucking portfolio. Neg all you want. It means nothing to me. |
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by stuey09 on Jan 19, 2008 11:40:11 GMT 1, it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it - and that is the bottom line, not because others think its worth x amount of pounds. To me, it is worth £14K, perhaps more, because I weigh up all the factors, like cost of print, going to the place to get it, the limited numbers. As for the iconic status of the print, I also believe that the Gold Flag and Trolleys in Bethlehem, are truly iconic/epic prints, and has a much moral status to them. When have you ever heard Banksy go to the press and discuss an issues? You just need to see others reactions to those who have been to get a feel for the magnitude of going to Santas Ghetto 2007. For those who have, its been life changing, for those who havent, they wish they had. I dare say with your generous £3-4K, you wouldnt get close to owning one, as most people who went are not flippers, but avid collectors. Personally I didn't agree with the location of Santa's Ghetto 2007. Bold move yes. But I don't buy art due to some peoples plight that quite frankly will never be resolved. Especially not by some rich city boys that flew over at the drop of a hat to spend what would keep a local family in food for for a year on a 58x77 bit of wall decoration. Or worst still, keeping it in a f**king portfolio. Neg all you want. It means nothing to me.
No intention of negging you, but that doesn't stop me thinking that you're a self opinionated, ignorant p*ick. It was Banksy that chose the location of SG07 and his decision alone. It was chosen because of a concept that he believes in and on that basis he should at least be shown some respect for going with his beliefs and not taking the easy option of Charing X road. Bottom line is nobody had to go and nobody was made to go, so why did you find the location so disagreeable?
Attended by 'rich city boys that flew over at the drop of a hat' I wish I was rich and am certainly no city boy. I must have met a dozen people out there who'd travelled over and I know about another dozen who also went over and believe me your perception of the sort of people who went over is not only bullshit it is insulting. I think you'll find the rich city element would just buy off the secondary market. Not that I believe that too many of these prints will crop up.
Incidently, I did agree with your opinion of the 14k price as ridiculous.
it is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it - and that is the bottom line, not because others think its worth x amount of pounds. To me, it is worth £14K, perhaps more, because I weigh up all the factors, like cost of print, going to the place to get it, the limited numbers. As for the iconic status of the print, I also believe that the Gold Flag and Trolleys in Bethlehem, are truly iconic/epic prints, and has a much moral status to them. When have you ever heard Banksy go to the press and discuss an issues? You just need to see others reactions to those who have been to get a feel for the magnitude of going to Santas Ghetto 2007. For those who have, its been life changing, for those who havent, they wish they had. I dare say with your generous £3-4K, you wouldnt get close to owning one, as most people who went are not flippers, but avid collectors. Personally I didn't agree with the location of Santa's Ghetto 2007. Bold move yes. But I don't buy art due to some peoples plight that quite frankly will never be resolved. Especially not by some rich city boys that flew over at the drop of a hat to spend what would keep a local family in food for for a year on a 58x77 bit of wall decoration. Or worst still, keeping it in a f**king portfolio. Neg all you want. It means nothing to me. No intention of negging you, but that doesn't stop me thinking that you're a self opinionated, ignorant p*ick. It was Banksy that chose the location of SG07 and his decision alone. It was chosen because of a concept that he believes in and on that basis he should at least be shown some respect for going with his beliefs and not taking the easy option of Charing X road. Bottom line is nobody had to go and nobody was made to go, so why did you find the location so disagreeable? Attended by 'rich city boys that flew over at the drop of a hat' I wish I was rich and am certainly no city boy. I must have met a dozen people out there who'd travelled over and I know about another dozen who also went over and believe me your perception of the sort of people who went over is not only bullshit it is insulting. I think you'll find the rich city element would just buy off the secondary market. Not that I believe that too many of these prints will crop up. Incidently, I did agree with your opinion of the 14k price as ridiculous. |
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by guest2 on Jan 19, 2008 11:59:45 GMT 1, .... It was Banksy that chose the location of SG07 and his decision alone. It was chosen because of a concept that he believes in and on that basis he should at least be shown some respect for going with his beliefs and not taking the easy option of Charing X road. Bottom line is nobody had to go and nobody was made to go, so why did you find the location so disagreeable? .....
Hey Stuey, I so agree with the above. You really do get the feeling that this really was Banksys baby, from the concept to the organisation to the friends/artists who supported him. Banksy at his very best. Yes he's made lots and lots of money but you can't help to think that the man will put alot of his personal money in the right places. And there is nothing wrong with him keeping a tidy sum for his self so he can continue with other great causes.
The living Legend that is Banksy.
.... It was Banksy that chose the location of SG07 and his decision alone. It was chosen because of a concept that he believes in and on that basis he should at least be shown some respect for going with his beliefs and not taking the easy option of Charing X road. Bottom line is nobody had to go and nobody was made to go, so why did you find the location so disagreeable? ..... Hey Stuey, I so agree with the above. You really do get the feeling that this really was Banksys baby, from the concept to the organisation to the friends/artists who supported him. Banksy at his very best. Yes he's made lots and lots of money but you can't help to think that the man will put alot of his personal money in the right places. And there is nothing wrong with him keeping a tidy sum for his self so he can continue with other great causes. The living Legend that is Banksy. |
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by snakes on Jan 19, 2008 12:15:44 GMT 1, It was Banksy that chose the location of SG07 and his decision alone. It was chosen because of a concept that he believes in and on that basis he should at least be shown some respect for going with his beliefs and not taking the easy option of Charing X road.
Instead Banksy took the easy option with the prints. Two recycled images that had nothing to do with the concept or location. Ideally Banksy should have released a print for the ghetto which would have made the visit more personal such as the dove or maybe another image that he could have had hidden up his sleeve.
As for values of the prints that were obtained (but not yet received) from the ghetto they are worth what the buyer paid for them. If they think they got them for a bargain price, well then do Mr Banksy a favour and send him and POW some more money for the cause. If not stick them on ebay with a 99p reserve and let the market tell you how much they are worth. Just stop this stupid bickering..
It was Banksy that chose the location of SG07 and his decision alone. It was chosen because of a concept that he believes in and on that basis he should at least be shown some respect for going with his beliefs and not taking the easy option of Charing X road. Instead Banksy took the easy option with the prints. Two recycled images that had nothing to do with the concept or location. Ideally Banksy should have released a print for the ghetto which would have made the visit more personal such as the dove or maybe another image that he could have had hidden up his sleeve. As for values of the prints that were obtained (but not yet received) from the ghetto they are worth what the buyer paid for them. If they think they got them for a bargain price, well then do Mr Banksy a favour and send him and POW some more money for the cause. If not stick them on ebay with a 99p reserve and let the market tell you how much they are worth. Just stop this stupid bickering.. |
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by alsbabar on Jan 19, 2008 12:50:38 GMT 1, i agree with all, i am just playing devils advocate with the price. To me, like Bongo says, any offrer has to be a ridiculous amount for me to even consider parting with my print from SG2007. I agree with Stuey, the 3 guys I went with, are far from rich city boys and the people I know who did go, are avid admirers of art and went along to support the cause
i agree with all, i am just playing devils advocate with the price. To me, like Bongo says, any offrer has to be a ridiculous amount for me to even consider parting with my print from SG2007. I agree with Stuey, the 3 guys I went with, are far from rich city boys and the people I know who did go, are avid admirers of art and went along to support the cause
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by loucastel on Jan 19, 2008 14:47:09 GMT 1, Who cares about he bloody price,I just want people to hurry up and get them so we can see some pics on here.
Who cares about he bloody price,I just want people to hurry up and get them so we can see some pics on here.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 11:23:57 GMT 1, I havent got a camera here now but its arrived and its my first banksy and good god it looks good.
im just wondering if its a screenprint (as teh dexcription says) or giclee because its really quite well done.
p.s. LEAVE THE ANIMOSITY, THE "U ARE GONNA F**KING FLIP IT, HOW MUCH IS IT WORTH TO YOU, YOU LYING FLIPPER, YOU ARE GONNA CASH OUT ON IT, BETHELHEM MADE ME SEE GOD AND U DIDNT SO U ALL SUUCK, GOZ U SHOW OFF ARROGANT LITLE MAN" AT THE DOOR PLEASE. WE DONT WANT THAT HERE. (theres another thread about trollies 28 ed all about that).
I havent got a camera here now but its arrived and its my first banksy and good god it looks good.
im just wondering if its a screenprint (as teh dexcription says) or giclee because its really quite well done.
p.s. LEAVE THE ANIMOSITY, THE "U ARE GONNA F**KING FLIP IT, HOW MUCH IS IT WORTH TO YOU, YOU LYING FLIPPER, YOU ARE GONNA CASH OUT ON IT, BETHELHEM MADE ME SEE GOD AND U DIDNT SO U ALL SUUCK, GOZ U SHOW OFF ARROGANT LITLE MAN" AT THE DOOR PLEASE. WE DONT WANT THAT HERE. (theres another thread about trollies 28 ed all about that).
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by carl on Feb 1, 2008 11:27:20 GMT 1, Nice one! Stop looking at it and get it straight to the framers before you damage it or drop chips on it!!
Nice one! Stop looking at it and get it straight to the framers before you damage it or drop chips on it!!
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 11:29:08 GMT 1, yeah. knowing my luck, i'll probably get splashed on by a bus, struck by lightning, doused in a falling paint pot, and then get mugged on the way home.
yeah. knowing my luck, i'll probably get splashed on by a bus, struck by lightning, doused in a falling paint pot, and then get mugged on the way home.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by pezlow on Feb 1, 2008 11:29:56 GMT 1, Pics as soon as you can please goz 
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 11:32:56 GMT 1, yeah... when i get home, if no one has yet posted them. and also, in the event, none of the above happens. im thinking of taking a cab back now. but knowing my luck, it will probably explode.
man.... im giggling like a little school girl now. i couldnt even bear to open it properly! i saw what oily sweaty fingers did to someones TITIFREAK print!
yeah... when i get home, if no one has yet posted them. and also, in the event, none of the above happens. im thinking of taking a cab back now. but knowing my luck, it will probably explode.
man.... im giggling like a little school girl now. i couldnt even bear to open it properly! i saw what oily sweaty fingers did to someones TITIFREAK print!
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by Metard on Feb 1, 2008 11:37:46 GMT 1, Was it sent in a tube? I have heard they might be sending these flat b/c they are so fragile.
Was it sent in a tube? I have heard they might be sending these flat b/c they are so fragile.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by carl on Feb 1, 2008 11:41:06 GMT 1, Get a cab home! Consider it part of the cost of the art. Be careful!
Get a cab home! Consider it part of the cost of the art. Be careful!
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 11:42:02 GMT 1, tube. definitely. tube. its as tubular as it gets.
its as fragile as paper is fragile i guess.
pretty thickish glossy gold paper. its signed in the front and numbered behind. It has two signatures almost.... one screenprinted (presumably from the original FLAG image) and one handsigned.
tube. definitely. tube. its as tubular as it gets.
its as fragile as paper is fragile i guess.
pretty thickish glossy gold paper. its signed in the front and numbered behind. It has two signatures almost.... one screenprinted (presumably from the original FLAG image) and one handsigned.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 11:42:47 GMT 1, u know how when u are wearing a white shirt and you order a spaghetti bolognese?
u try your darndest to be careful but inevitably, soimething will happen.
u know how when u are wearing a white shirt and you order a spaghetti bolognese?
u try your darndest to be careful but inevitably, soimething will happen.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by foreman on Feb 1, 2008 11:43:22 GMT 1, is it dated as well as signed?
is it dated as well as signed?
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 11:45:23 GMT 1, erm.... well.. i only peeked at it. but it doesnt seem to be dated at all.
erm.... well.. i only peeked at it. but it doesnt seem to be dated at all.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by alsbabar on Feb 1, 2008 13:07:43 GMT 1, well done goz, pics please
well done goz, pics please
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 13:10:27 GMT 1, yeah i took it out and saw it in all its glory. nope not dated.
its very glossy though. like a photograph.
yeah i took it out and saw it in all its glory. nope not dated.
its very glossy though. like a photograph.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by slowmo on Feb 1, 2008 13:15:02 GMT 1, Cotton gloves mate, pick some up 
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 13:16:23 GMT 1, ive got some washing gloves at home... should be alright no?
(famous last words.....)
ive got some washing gloves at home... should be alright no?
(famous last words.....)
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by slowmo on Feb 1, 2008 13:20:42 GMT 1, LOL do not use washing gloves. I have a silver flag and I know a lot of people ended up with fingerpritns from touching the actual image, as long as you handle carefully you should be OK, cotton for safety, rubber gloves, well I'd leave them in the kitchen.
Another warning, if this is a same process as the silver, keep it miles away from any humidity, mine has become quite ripply after leaving it outside my bathroom door for a few months.
LOL do not use washing gloves. I have a silver flag and I know a lot of people ended up with fingerpritns from touching the actual image, as long as you handle carefully you should be OK, cotton for safety, rubber gloves, well I'd leave them in the kitchen.
Another warning, if this is a same process as the silver, keep it miles away from any humidity, mine has become quite ripply after leaving it outside my bathroom door for a few months.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by insite on Feb 1, 2008 13:26:18 GMT 1, ive got some washing gloves at home... should be alright no? (famous last words.....)
Nooo, Boots sell cotton gloves only a couple of quid, be careful if you keep it flat all you need to do is drag a bit of dust over it putting tissue on and you can scratch it.
ive got some washing gloves at home... should be alright no? (famous last words.....) Nooo, Boots sell cotton gloves only a couple of quid, be careful if you keep it flat all you need to do is drag a bit of dust over it putting tissue on and you can scratch it. |
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by gozgoz on Feb 1, 2008 13:27:13 GMT 1, Great.
if i ever have tomove back to Singapore where its like 100% humidity. does that mean i need o get a humidifier.
geez.
i mioght as well adopt a baby. it'll be cheaper.
Great.
if i ever have tomove back to Singapore where its like 100% humidity. does that mean i need o get a humidifier.
geez.
i mioght as well adopt a baby. it'll be cheaper.
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Banksy • Flag GOLD, by Harveyn on Feb 1, 2008 13:44:28 GMT 1, Goz, fantastic, can't wait to see the photos.
Isn't it great to hear someone (and I mean you can almost hear) so excited about a piece of art.
Well done indeed. Your obvious happiness has brought a smile to my face.... ;D ;D
Goz, fantastic, can't wait to see the photos.
Isn't it great to hear someone (and I mean you can almost hear) so excited about a piece of art.
Well done indeed. Your obvious happiness has brought a smile to my face.... ;D ;D
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