[captainmack]

I have a mint condition signed Colour Trolleys, orig owner kept flat in acid free tissue since new to swop for a No Ball Games.

If you bought this print to resell this will give you the opportunity to sell a signed Banksy without getting blacklisted.

[Nico]

Shame, the Trolleys is such a better print IMO, better image, definitely better message (actually the Balls has no message...). Think twice!

[craigf]

Plus maybe change the title to be clear this is a swap not a sell thread. Looks like you are sell a ball games at the moment

[captainmack]

You're right there Craig, sell, swop, both start with an s always knew I should have listened more in English lessons. T for trade it is.

[skitch]

How would you get blacklisted??? pow took no details off us except for a name.

[jarhead]

what did the inline security look like?
Do you reckon Pow was keeping a watch like big brother.

[captainmack]

bump

[viperuk]

Can't see many forum members going for this IMO, you might be better selling it and buying one off of the bay... I know I would never sell my NBG...

[nex]

Dec 13, 2009 12:48:41 GMT 1 Nico said:

(actually the Balls has no message...)

eh?

[Nico]

Dec 14, 2009 16:37:52 GMT 1 nex said:

Dec 13, 2009 12:48:41 GMT 1 Nico said:

(actually the Balls has no message...)

eh?

Well yeah...do you think there's a big message there (apart from the obvious of course)? Come on ;D

[captainmack]

Dec 14, 2009 16:26:22 GMT 1 viperuk said:

Can't see many forum members going for this IMO, you might be better selling it and buying one off of the bay... I know I would never sell my NBG...

You may be right but as someone pointed out there's been a few cash deals done by members already at £1200-£1400 which IMO makes it about equal value wise and as I pointed out if you just want a quick profit you'll make about the same and avoid any possible hassle. I don't really have the time to list and wait on paypal ATM so if there's no takers I'll just bide my time and see what's what after Christmas and sell and buy then. I reckon this could look like a better deal in a week when the ebay prices come down so who knows. Fair play on you keeping it but there's plenty who won't.

[Heavyconsumer]

I don't think prices will settle as low as Trolleys, but I suppose only time will tell. It sounds like there were a load of newie flippers in the queue who undersold their prints, but I wuldn't expect that to set too much of an ongoing trend. I shouldn't think too many more will go for between 1200 and 1400, once the initial flood dies down and the noobies either have their oders cancelled (in the case of the green prints) or stop listing all the prints at the same time on Ebay. Just my opinion, but I reckon 1500 or under is a great price for a signed Banksy from an edition of 250 - If you can wangle that deal, I'd suggest you do it sooner rather than waiting for prices to plummet. Obviously I have no crystal ball, but that's my guess.

[dh]

When Trolleys was released they were flipped like no other Banksy before and dropped in price big time. Trolleys is a decent Banksy image but held back by the massive edition size and the black & white version works best IMO.

I can't understand the negative comments toward the NBG image, it's up there with the best and carries the classic Banksy message which captured all of us to want a piece of his work. It's extra special to anyone who queued all night and think anyone is mad to selling it on or swapping it.....

[nah]

Dec 14, 2009 19:55:34 GMT 1 @dh said:

When Trolleys was released they were flipped like no other Banksy before and dropped in price big time. Trolleys is a decent Banksy image but held back by the massive edition size and the black & white version works best IMO.

I can't understand the negative comments toward the NBG image, it's up there with the best and carries the classic Banksy message which captured all of us to want a piece of his work. It's extra special to anyone who queued all night and think anyone is mad to selling it on or swapping it.....

Easy to explain the NBG criticism - most of it's just self-justification by those that chose not to queue

[distinctivevision]

Dec 14, 2009 19:02:01 GMT 1 captainmack said:

Dec 14, 2009 16:26:22 GMT 1 viperuk said:

Can't see many forum members going for this IMO, you might be better selling it and buying one off of the bay... I know I would never sell my NBG...

You may be right but as someone pointed out there's been a few cash deals done by members already at £1200-£1400 which IMO makes it about equal value wise and as I pointed out if you just want a quick profit you'll make about the same and avoid any possible hassle. I don't really have the time to list and wait on paypal ATM so if there's no takers I'll just bide my time and see what's what after Christmas and sell and buy then. I reckon this could look like a better deal in a week when the ebay prices come down so who knows. Fair play on you keeping it but there's plenty who won't.

Not members, people in the line on saturday morning. I think Grafic said he knew a few of them.
Like someone has said, anything under £1500 is a steal for a run of 250 and when the flood dies down it goes back to supply and demand.

[Guest]

its a run of 500, regardless of colour.

[headzup]

i think there will be LOADS of flips for both colours. when donuts, nola & vlh came out loads of forum members scored. this time it appears not and the secondary market scored - keep the trolleys and wait.......

[Deleted]

Dec 14, 2009 22:17:50 GMT 1 headzup said:

i think there will be LOADS of flips for both colours. when donuts, nola & vlh came out loads of forum members scored. this time it appears not and the secondary market scored - keep the trolleys and wait.......

Nola was a bunfight via F5. And a small number of VLH was also F5ed after the draw was done.

[veralynn]

Maybe, this but this is a flipping bloodbath......in terms of getting the prints into the hands of the collectors this aint a result.

[etched]

Dec 14, 2009 22:24:16 GMT 1 topboy said:

Dec 14, 2009 22:17:50 GMT 1 headzup said:

i think there will be LOADS of flips for both colours. when donuts, nola & vlh came out loads of forum members scored. this time it appears not and the secondary market scored - keep the trolleys and wait.......

Nola was a bunfight via F5. And a small number of VLH was also F5ed after the draw was done.

a very small number of Very Little Helps

[Deleted]

Dec 14, 2009 22:38:51 GMT 1 etched said:

Dec 14, 2009 22:24:16 GMT 1 topboy said:

Nola was a bunfight via F5. And a small number of VLH was also F5ed after the draw was done.

a very small number of Very Little Helps

i know

[captainmack]

I'd be interested in trading for either colour, grey or green.

[grafik]

Dec 14, 2009 21:11:50 GMT 1 @distinctivevision said:

Dec 14, 2009 19:02:01 GMT 1 captainmack said:

You may be right but as someone pointed out there's been a few cash deals done by members already at £1200-£1400 which IMO makes it about equal value wise and as I pointed out if you just want a quick profit you'll make about the same and avoid any possible hassle. I don't really have the time to list and wait on paypal ATM so if there's no takers I'll just bide my time and see what's what after Christmas and sell and buy then. I reckon this could look like a better deal in a week when the ebay prices come down so who knows. Fair play on you keeping it but there's plenty who won't.

Not members, people in the line on saturday morning. I think Grafic said he knew a few of them.
Like someone has said, anything under £1500 is a steal for a run of 250 and when the flood dies down it goes back to supply and demand.

yeh i know 3 guys who sold theirs for 1150, but now seriously regretting it. idiots.
real price is repicted by ebay. 1500+

[jaimesl]

I reckon these will be going for less that £1,200 after Christmas.

Every release is over hyped and initial prints go for silly money... if £1,500 is the going rate this early... these are going to come down a lot more.

I really like the piece and hope to pick one up... but not getting sucked into the bollocks which is syndicates hyping prints and shilling on the bay.

[distinctivevision]

Dec 16, 2009 16:29:05 GMT 1 jaimesl said:

I reckon these will be going for less that £1,200 after Christmas.

Every release is over hyped and initial prints go for silly money... if £1,500 is the going rate this early... these are going to come down a lot more.

I really like the piece and hope to pick one up... but not getting sucked into the bollocks which is syndicates hyping prints and shilling on the bay.

We're picked up trolleys with pest for under 1100 on ebay run of 750, so if prices start to drop even better.
But back to what you said james, If these go for £1200 after christmas (not disagreeing) the trolleys print of 750 will have to come down also, like wise with donuts etc etc

There is four ending tonight and all are very close if not over £1550 already so the going rate is not £1500 lol

[rosstierney]

Dec 16, 2009 17:50:07 GMT 1 @distinctivevision said:

f these go for £1200 after christmas (not disagreeing) the trolleys print of 750 will have to come down also, like wise with donuts etc etc

how do you work that out? you/he/she/it of all people should be familiar with supply & demand.

[distinctivevision]

Well i doubt after crimbo they'll be 20 available hence why i was being sarcastic in saying that i highly much doubt it.

[snausages]

Dec 13, 2009 12:48:41 GMT 1 Nico said:

Shame, the Trolleys is such a better print IMO, better image, definitely better message (actually the Balls has no message...). Think twice!

No message? It's got a few, (aside from the more obvious swipe at urbanism) my favorite is how kids are so creative and inventive. (That they can find a use for and make games out of almost any circumstance)

[captainmack]

Nothing definate yet so bumpity bump.