Banksy • Flower Thrower

[tomhills1]

just in case the link continues to fail here is the item number: 170089965035

[Tyler Durden]

tomhills1 said:

i cannot even begin to comprehend this listing. is there a verb for monumental sh*te such as this? i'm astounded, more front than southend.

Easy! As one who lives 5 mins away from Southend, I.... ah what they hey, fair point.

[dotdot]

It says in the advert 'provedance' - i have no doubt a merry dance will be had by the seller / buyer upon sale of such item.

Previous comment about blindstamping a canvas - made me laugh - magic.

ebay have no interest in stamping this kind of selling out - unfort.


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[rabbitlegs]

i feel sorry for the daft sod who has put a bid on it!!! under old ebay rules you could see the bidder name and we could have let the poor sod know he is about to be ripped off. now he is just bidder 1

[romanywg]

Yeah I was just about to inform him too.

[curiousgeorge]

As stated above im in Southampton, perhaps i could get the law involved


Makes me mad as hell that ebay couldnt give a toss as long as they get paid

[stillborncrisps]

If someone set up a new eBay account that they didn't care about they could win the auction to stop some poor sole getting ripped off.

This would also make the winner eligable to file a dispute to eBay pointing out it's fake goods, and getting hold of the seller's address.

[Montubu7]

stillborncrisps
Its probably a false address for the seller!

Someown could place a bid, request his contact phone number, cancel the bid & give him a ring, see what he says!

[hungrig]

I am sure that all of the seller's details (including telephone number) are false.

[blacksy]

Hi the piece comes with a letter of provedance from Lanzic, as far as I'm aware the larger size canvas with banksys signature on the back in marker, there are only 30. the smaller size (this one 30 x 30) there were 75.
Cheers.


It just gets better and better!
I can supply provedance - sounds good - but what exactly is prove dance? If you want me to prove i can dance - just dig out some earth wind & fire

Lanzic - it that near landzend?

I said to him i thought there were only 30 and he agreed, but made up a nice little story about some more - I suggest someone else emails him stating - I thought there were only 40 - to see if he responds in the same way!
I think this guy will agree with anything you tell him, just to sell this. If you emailed him and asked if he dealt with Stuart, or Colin, or Danny, or Peter, or Paul at lanzic he'd probably say yes, - just make up some random names.



Alternatively - we strike as a team, and we all email exactly the same thing to him.
something along the lines of.........



Hi.

I'm interested in your Banksy Love is in the air canvas.
Was wondring if you'd sell it to me now without going through the auction process, saving you final valuation fees, and saving me having to wait 7 more days.
I am willing to offer you £10,000 for the canvas.

Does this sound acceptable?

many thanks

Robin Banks


If he got this email from 50+ users - he'd surely start thinking the game's up!

[Montubu7]

I am sure that all of the seller's details (including telephone number) are false.

I doubt the telephone number is incorrect as im sure many people will pull his details and/or report for false contact details which would prompt an automatic phone call from ebay , hence he would need the number to be correct, as for the address thats a different matter.

[redfred]

Why not just e-mail the plank, give him directions how to access the FORUM and let him see for himself what he is getting into!

[hungrig]

I understand someone is bidding on this in order to win, knowing full well that the seller doesn't own any such canvas.

I prefer allowing the seller to believe that he or she has got the sale in the bag, only to be bitterly disappointed when the 'buyer' asks to examine the canvas before forking out.

[cosmic]

why not report to e bay as the photo of the sig is from artificial gallery page as amazingly stated by hungrig

[hungrig]

For those who wish to be proactive and do something, feel free to contact eBay. The more people who do, the greater the chance that this seller's listings will be removed.

Click the following link:

pages.ebay.co.uk/help/contact_us/_base/index_4.html?item=&topic=index_4&continue=Continue+%3E

Then click:

(i) Fraudulent listings (illegal seller demands, item not received, etc)

(ii) You suspect that a listing is fraudulent (you didn't bid)

(iii) Continue

(iv) Email us

(v) In "Enter item number(s):", insert:

170089956181, 170089965035

(vi) In "Enter your question / concern:", set out your concerns.

[I inserted the following:

"This seller has fraudulent listings.

1. The Banksy canvas (170089956181) does not exist as an edition of 75. It is also not possible to blindstamp a canvas, as claimed in the listing. In addition, the photograph of the signature and edition number has been stolen from another website and can be found on an existing screenprint (not a canvas). See www.artificialgallery.co.uk/artwork.php?form_load_id=3466759575

2. The Banksy print (170089965035) belongs to another eBay member (justinhalewood) who recently failed to sell it. The photograph has also been stolen from justinhalewood's original listing (Item number 330093399954).

3. It is likely that the listing for the Coop canvas (170089957491) is also fraudulent."]

[tomhills1]

taking a leaf out of blacksy's book i emaied the "seller":
Hi.

I'm interested in your Banksy Love is in the air canvas.
Was wondring if you'd sell it to me now without going through the auction process, saving you final valuation fees, and saving me having to wait 7 more days.
I am willing to offer you £10,000 for the canvas.

Does this sound acceptable?

many thanks

Robin Banks

alternatively check this link for all the iformation you need to complete this sale: banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=ebaychat&action=display&thread=1173539715

let you know if and when i hear back.

[redfred]

Seller has ended his auctions early - - - Obviousely got offers he couldnt refuse ! ! !

[joannasaurus allan]

Hi I am looking for some advice I have been offered an original banksy spraypaint on canvas by an art dealer. It is obviously very expensive but I am planning on using it as an investment. However, I cannot seem to find any information on original works anywhere. For example, are they signed? How much do they generally go for? Etc... I just do not want to be ripped off. It all seems genuine but I just want to check. It is an edition of 15, flower thrower, approx 91cm x 91cm. I found a picture of it on the Lazinc website but it has no real info on it. Any help would be great J x

[neutral]

The chance to be ripped off by buying it for the wrong reason are greatter than buying it because you like it.
As you stated, Lazinc will be the one to speak to.

[pezlow]

I wouldn't buy any canvases without watertight proof of authenticity from Lazinc.

edit: not that I am really in the market for canvases right now not unless I win the lottery on saturday.

[joannasaurus allan]

Oh sorry I don't think I wrote that very well. It is not that I am just using this an as investment. I am a huge fan of Banksy. I was really trying to justify paying such a huge price (to myself mainly!!) for it. But yes I think I will ask Lazinc. I was just worried it will be gone. Thanks J x

[neutral]

Put in on reserve with the intention to obtain full approval from Lazinc. Your dealler will appreciate that I am sure as if all is genuine he will get the sale.

[pezlow]

Sounds like a good plan neutral.

[ABC]

Is it dated 2003? some were done back then and had
LA 2003 #/15 I think on the back, also signed in Banksys old style signature.

[Michael Jacob]

i agree with neutral, ask to put it on reserve. even offer a small deposit. if they dont agree to that, Id be worried!

[kahuna]

Listings like this should result in sharing Mr. Amy Winehouse's jail cell

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-Hackney-Street-Art-Flower-Thrower-by-Banksy_W0QQitemZ170228710267QQihZ007QQcategoryZ75295QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[discoduster]

Any ideas on the value of a framed Flower Chucker done on cardboard with a tag underneath?

Originated from old studio mate of Banksy and has been given the all clear from PC.

Attachments:

[discoduster]

another pic

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[dotdot]

unique with coa - auction - not ebay.

regardless of fees.

good luck

[neale]

you do NOT want to sell that DD