Cocteau 101
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Any Parla's Out There, by Cocteau 101 on Oct 19, 2009 23:48:24 GMT 1, Looking to acquire to add to my collection.
PM if you have any pieces you wish to sell with an indication of price.
Cheers
C
Looking to acquire to add to my collection.
PM if you have any pieces you wish to sell with an indication of price.
Cheers
C
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meatbag
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Any Parla's Out There, by meatbag on Oct 20, 2009 0:09:19 GMT 1, there was a guy one here not to long ago with an ok canvas for $15K. Great price, try and go back looking...
there was a guy one here not to long ago with an ok canvas for $15K. Great price, try and go back looking...
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jB
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Any Parla's Out There, by jB on Oct 20, 2009 0:21:31 GMT 1, if my memory serves me correct Winter had one that he was looking to sell not long ago
if my memory serves me correct Winter had one that he was looking to sell not long ago
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Francis
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Any Parla's Out There, by snausages on Oct 22, 2009 0:30:06 GMT 1, Here ya go, another chance for JP dude. 48 x 72 inches for 25-35k usd. A bargain some might say. But sounds about right to me. Who was it that was selling watercolors for close to this price!? Ridiculous. But the floodgates have opened, acquired directly from the artist and submitted so soon to Sotheby's? Shows where peoples heads are on this stuff.
www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159559924
Here ya go, another chance for JP dude. 48 x 72 inches for 25-35k usd. A bargain some might say. But sounds about right to me. Who was it that was selling watercolors for close to this price!? Ridiculous. But the floodgates have opened, acquired directly from the artist and submitted so soon to Sotheby's? Shows where peoples heads are on this stuff. www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159559924 |
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jB
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Any Parla's Out There, by jB on Oct 22, 2009 0:35:08 GMT 1, no image available for that piece? or is just my computer? love to have a look at that beast
no image available for that piece? or is just my computer? love to have a look at that beast
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Photoxtc
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Any Parla's Out There, by Photoxtc on Oct 22, 2009 4:37:01 GMT 1, snausages or anyone else that may know, what was something that size going for a year or two ago?? I'm not up on parla at all so I really don't know which way he's going right now...
snausages or anyone else that may know, what was something that size going for a year or two ago?? I'm not up on parla at all so I really don't know which way he's going right now...
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Any Parla's Out There, by mose on Oct 22, 2009 4:37:52 GMT 1, no image available for that piece? or is just my computer? love to have a look at that beast
go to the main page for the auction itself and view the e-catalogue. You can see the picture there.
It is a very nice example of Parla's work.
no image available for that piece? or is just my computer? love to have a look at that beast go to the main page for the auction itself and view the e-catalogue. You can see the picture there. It is a very nice example of Parla's work. |
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jB
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Any Parla's Out There, by jB on Oct 22, 2009 5:26:08 GMT 1, thanks mose - what would a piece of this magnitude cost from source, can't imagine it would've been much less than the low estimate?
thanks mose - what would a piece of this magnitude cost from source, can't imagine it would've been much less than the low estimate?
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Any Parla's Out There, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 22, 2009 5:41:48 GMT 1, Wow, looks like a speculative purchase at/near peak gone awry
Wow, looks like a speculative purchase at/near peak gone awry
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lee3
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Any Parla's Out There, by lee3 on Oct 22, 2009 17:24:09 GMT 1, Wow, looks like a speculative purchase at/near peak gone awry
From what I understand this was commissioned long ago when prices were much more in line with the estimate range but obviously delivery was taken this year given the date. So, I don't think it necessarily went awry but having work come up to auction for any artist that is this fresh isn't doing anybody any favors. On the other hand, I can appreciate anyone who has to sell art right now just to keep their life moving forward. Personally, I think this one is gorgeous and the best yet to come to auction.
LOT 359
JOSร PARLร
b. 1973
AVENIDA DE ROSAS
signed, titled and dated 2009 on the reverse
mixed media on wood panel
48 by 72 in. 121.9 by 182.9 cm.
Executed in 2007-2008, this work was signed in 2009.
ESTIMATE 25,000 - 35,000 USD
>>>what was something that size going for a year or two ago<<
I made a casual inquiry over a year ago on pricing for one piece and was quoted 60k GBP before any discount (which I did not pursue) from a dealer though I don't recall if the size was as large as this. It certainly wasn't bigger but could have been smaller. But, we have to rememeber that before last October the art world was a much different market.
Wow, looks like a speculative purchase at/near peak gone awry From what I understand this was commissioned long ago when prices were much more in line with the estimate range but obviously delivery was taken this year given the date. So, I don't think it necessarily went awry but having work come up to auction for any artist that is this fresh isn't doing anybody any favors. On the other hand, I can appreciate anyone who has to sell art right now just to keep their life moving forward. Personally, I think this one is gorgeous and the best yet to come to auction. LOT 359 JOSร PARLร b. 1973 AVENIDA DE ROSAS signed, titled and dated 2009 on the reverse mixed media on wood panel 48 by 72 in. 121.9 by 182.9 cm. Executed in 2007-2008, this work was signed in 2009. ESTIMATE 25,000 - 35,000 USD >>>what was something that size going for a year or two ago<< I made a casual inquiry over a year ago on pricing for one piece and was quoted 60k GBP before any discount (which I did not pursue) from a dealer though I don't recall if the size was as large as this. It certainly wasn't bigger but could have been smaller. But, we have to rememeber that before last October the art world was a much different market. |
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linkd95
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Any Parla's Out There, by linkd95 on Oct 22, 2009 17:42:14 GMT 1, THAT IS ONE BEAUTIFUL PARLA.....im drooling right now 
THAT IS ONE BEAUTIFUL PARLA.....im drooling right now |
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Any Parla's Out There, by snausages on Oct 22, 2009 18:05:55 GMT 1, Wow, looks like a speculative purchase at/near peak gone awry I made a casual inquiry over a year ago on pricing for one piece and was quoted 60k GBP before any discount (which I did not pursue) from a dealer though I don't recall if the size was as large as this. It certainly wasn't bigger but could have been smaller. But, we have to rememeber that before last October the art world was a much different market.
Could well be someone who got in over their head when buying this and two years later after delivery needs to get out. Galleries were probably retailing this for ยฃ60k a year ago, but go back to about 2006/07 and this size was retailing for about 8-12k USD.
Wow, looks like a speculative purchase at/near peak gone awry I made a casual inquiry over a year ago on pricing for one piece and was quoted 60k GBP before any discount (which I did not pursue) from a dealer though I don't recall if the size was as large as this. It certainly wasn't bigger but could have been smaller. But, we have to rememeber that before last October the art world was a much different market. Could well be someone who got in over their head when buying this and two years later after delivery needs to get out. Galleries were probably retailing this for ยฃ60k a year ago, but go back to about 2006/07 and this size was retailing for about 8-12k USD. |
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skanky
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Any Parla's Out There, by skanky on Oct 22, 2009 18:15:37 GMT 1, That is a stunner , I would love to have that on my wall !
That is a stunner , I would love to have that on my wall !
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volvic
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Any Parla's Out There, by volvic on Oct 22, 2009 18:31:13 GMT 1, best parla i have ever seen, wow
best parla i have ever seen, wow
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Any Parla's Out There, by manty on Oct 22, 2009 18:34:57 GMT 1, Yep, I like it too
Yep, I like it too
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Any Parla's Out There, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 22, 2009 18:47:16 GMT 1, fall '07 price straight from artist (usd):
4 x 6 feet . $50,000.
4 x 4 feet. $30,000.
3 x 4 feet. $25,000.
This looks like what he/she paid based on execution dates...
fall '07 price straight from artist (usd):
4 x 6 feet . $50,000.
4 x 4 feet. $30,000.
3 x 4 feet. $25,000.
This looks like what he/she paid based on execution dates...
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Any Parla's Out There, by mutant on Oct 22, 2009 19:20:59 GMT 1, I agree it's a beautiful piece. But a loss of 30-50% of its original cost!? Ouch! I understand that this drop is roughly in line with the current art market. But a potential loss of > $15K? This seller must be in need of some cash.
I agree it's a beautiful piece. But a loss of 30-50% of its original cost!? Ouch! I understand that this drop is roughly in line with the current art market. But a potential loss of > $15K? This seller must be in need of some cash.
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Francis
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Any Parla's Out There, by Francis on Oct 22, 2009 20:58:54 GMT 1, the loss or gain has not been realized yet, so they could lose more or could even gain if it gets bid up.
it's amazing how the latest parla jpg that is shown is always "the best parla i've ever seen!"
the loss or gain has not been realized yet, so they could lose more or could even gain if it gets bid up.
it's amazing how the latest parla jpg that is shown is always "the best parla i've ever seen!"
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Any Parla's Out There, by snausages on Oct 22, 2009 21:17:32 GMT 1, True, they might possibly make money. I see it and think yeah, it's a nice painting, but I still think it just isn't going to resonate that much with people that aren't into the street, tagging thing and worse it keeps reminding me of that decorative abstract art, the kind you find in those cheesy galleries that cater to interior decorators who buy them up in bulk for offices or model homes, like so...
True, they might possibly make money. I see it and think yeah, it's a nice painting, but I still think it just isn't going to resonate that much with people that aren't into the street, tagging thing and worse it keeps reminding me of that decorative abstract art, the kind you find in those cheesy galleries that cater to interior decorators who buy them up in bulk for offices or model homes, like so... |
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Any Parla's Out There, by monkeyballs on Oct 22, 2009 21:18:09 GMT 1, I think the fact you buy by the square foot and it goes down by bulk (or at least did) speaks volumes.
I think the fact you buy by the square foot and it goes down by bulk (or at least did) speaks volumes.
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skanky
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Any Parla's Out There, by skanky on Oct 22, 2009 22:10:28 GMT 1, My god Snausages you really are like a dog with a bone with these types of comments.
As I have always said there are plenty of people like me who really appreciate the quality of his work, I know you dont feel the same and that is fine but to constantly follow every mention of his work and slag it off is very tedious.
And no Im not defending or never have defended the prices paid, I am only defending what I see as quality work.
My god Snausages you really are like a dog with a bone with these types of comments.
As I have always said there are plenty of people like me who really appreciate the quality of his work, I know you dont feel the same and that is fine but to constantly follow every mention of his work and slag it off is very tedious.
And no Im not defending or never have defended the prices paid, I am only defending what I see as quality work.
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nah
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Any Parla's Out There, by nah on Oct 22, 2009 22:18:33 GMT 1, True, they might possibly make money. I see it and think yeah, it's a nice painting, but I still think it just isn't going to resonate that much with people that aren't into the street, tagging thing and worse it keeps reminding me of that decorative abstract art, the kind you find in those cheesy galleries that cater to interior decorators who buy them up in bulk for offices or model homes, like so...
Ha... Had the exact same thought when I first saw his stuff
True, they might possibly make money. I see it and think yeah, it's a nice painting, but I still think it just isn't going to resonate that much with people that aren't into the street, tagging thing and worse it keeps reminding me of that decorative abstract art, the kind you find in those cheesy galleries that cater to interior decorators who buy them up in bulk for offices or model homes, like so... Ha... Had the exact same thought when I first saw his stuff |
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skanky
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Any Parla's Out There, by skanky on Oct 22, 2009 22:26:37 GMT 1, The comparison of these two paintings is just ridiculous imo
The comparison of these two paintings is just ridiculous imo
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stjohn
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Any Parla's Out There, by stjohn on Oct 22, 2009 22:45:11 GMT 1, True, they might possibly make money. I see it and think yeah, it's a nice painting, but I still think it just isn't going to resonate that much with people that aren't into the street, tagging thing and worse it keeps reminding me of that decorative abstract art, the kind you find in those cheesy galleries that cater to interior decorators who buy them up in bulk for offices or model homes, like so... Ha... Had the exact same thought when I first saw his stuff
Its not just about making money though is it. But on that note, rubbish like this you mean?!
www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159562947
www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=5263654&sid=9d40754d-e1a6-4b16-96fe-0cb0d4e4b07f
Hmmmm.... completely worthless - I can see that.
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Any Parla's Out There, by snausages on Oct 22, 2009 22:55:01 GMT 1, ^ ...actually I didn't say anything related to making money or being worthless in that comparison. To me the comparison is on technique, look, style, concept...
^ ...actually I didn't say anything related to making money or being worthless in that comparison. To me the comparison is on technique, look, style, concept...
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skanky
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Any Parla's Out There, by skanky on Oct 22, 2009 23:23:08 GMT 1, "Shows where Parla's collectors heads are I guess" This is the usual tripe that is rolled out by you whenever anyone defends his work. It makes his fans out to be some sort of clique which is nonsense.
I repeat again:
I get that you do not appreciate Parla's work and think its a waste of money and you are completely entitled to your opinion.
"Shows where Parla's collectors heads are I guess" This is the usual tripe that is rolled out by you whenever anyone defends his work. It makes his fans out to be some sort of clique which is nonsense.
I repeat again:
I get that you do not appreciate Parla's work and think its a waste of money and you are completely entitled to your opinion.
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Heavyconsumer
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Any Parla's Out There, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 22, 2009 23:41:12 GMT 1, I think the above image of the Parla at auction is an incredible piece! Looks breath-taking imo. I would love something like that to spend the next 10 or 20 years or more with! Can't imagine tiring of it.
I think the above image of the Parla at auction is an incredible piece! Looks breath-taking imo. I would love something like that to spend the next 10 or 20 years or more with! Can't imagine tiring of it.
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anodyne13
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Any Parla's Out There, by anodyne13 on Oct 23, 2009 0:31:24 GMT 1, Art, modern especially, is more about compelling context than technique...the Parla has it, the "decorative" art does not.
Art, modern especially, is more about compelling context than technique...the Parla has it, the "decorative" art does not.
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DYL4N
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Any Parla's Out There, by DYL4N on Oct 23, 2009 1:40:58 GMT 1,
Always loved Sean Scullys Work, he had a Q & A at Queens University in Belfast last night, he loves himself more than anyone else could as it turns out!!
Has an awesome exhibition on at the Ulster museum at the minute!
Always loved Sean Scullys Work, he had a Q & A at Queens University in Belfast last night, he loves himself more than anyone else could as it turns out!! Has an awesome exhibition on at the Ulster museum at the minute! |
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