ratboy
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by ratboy on Jan 8, 2009 15:52:42 GMT 1, Just noticed a couple of street pieces being touted on Gumtree - one of which is the pap rat from Embankment. I can remember a few photos of this from the forum so should be easy enough to tell if it's real or not:
www.gumtree.com/london/35/32911035.html
And the other:
www.gumtree.com/london/20/32911520.html
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by richy00 on Jan 8, 2009 18:15:26 GMT 1, they are both legit....
nuff said.
they are both legit....
nuff said.
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kennas
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by kennas on Jan 8, 2009 19:06:23 GMT 1, fake. if they were real why sell through gumtree?
fake. if they were real why sell through gumtree?
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by AxB on Jan 8, 2009 20:25:10 GMT 1, fake. if they were real why sell through gumtree?
they are both legit.... nuff said.
haha i love how many conflicting 'facts' people on here feel qualified to spout !
bottom line is both items would be better in a skip than in your home
real or not
x
fake. if they were real why sell through gumtree? they are both legit.... nuff said. haha i love how many conflicting 'facts' people on here feel qualified to spout ! bottom line is both items would be better in a skip than in your home real or not x |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by Deleted on Jan 8, 2009 20:46:24 GMT 1, Both pieces seen in a book by Mr Bull, how apt ;D
Both pieces seen in a book by Mr Bull, how apt ;D
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kennas
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by kennas on Jan 8, 2009 21:00:49 GMT 1, Wasnt quoting any facts any more than richy was. Opinions.... like onions with an extra pi added.... heard of them?
Wasnt quoting any facts any more than richy was. Opinions.... like onions with an extra pi added.... heard of them?
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by rrrich on Jan 8, 2009 21:10:54 GMT 1, i thought the gas box was up on ebay a few months ago, didnt go for too much and it was the verdict here that it was authentic. seems strange that it's now up on gumtree.
love to know how the guy managed to get a whole telephone exchange box away without drawing any attention too!
i thought the gas box was up on ebay a few months ago, didnt go for too much and it was the verdict here that it was authentic. seems strange that it's now up on gumtree.
love to know how the guy managed to get a whole telephone exchange box away without drawing any attention too!
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AxB
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by AxB on Jan 8, 2009 21:36:56 GMT 1, Wasnt quoting any facts any more than richy was. Opinions.... like onions with an extra pi added.... heard of them?
yes opinions
i have heard of them
they're like arseholes
i dont mind mine but everyone elses stinks like shit
oh and if your stating an opinion rather than claiming fact its probably best to point that out in your posts
x
Wasnt quoting any facts any more than richy was. Opinions.... like onions with an extra pi added.... heard of them? yes opinions i have heard of them they're like arseholes i dont mind mine but everyone elses stinks like shit oh and if your stating an opinion rather than claiming fact its probably best to point that out in your posts x |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by kennas on Jan 8, 2009 21:55:29 GMT 1, lol
good retort!
lol
good retort!
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by Gurn on Jan 8, 2009 22:05:06 GMT 1, Certainly looks like the rat from The Embankment(IMO !!)....was the first Banksy I ever saw.
Certainly looks like the rat from The Embankment(IMO !!)....was the first Banksy I ever saw.
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ratboy
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by ratboy on Jan 9, 2009 11:31:02 GMT 1, I spoke to the guy on the phone and he says the box was bought from a second hand shop in Brick Lane just under a year ago.
I'd say it looks like a very good match to the photos, but his story seemed questionable.
I spoke to the guy on the phone and he says the box was bought from a second hand shop in Brick Lane just under a year ago.
I'd say it looks like a very good match to the photos, but his story seemed questionable.
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by richy00 on Jan 9, 2009 11:38:05 GMT 1, fake. if they were real why sell through gumtree? they are both legit.... nuff said. haha i love how many conflicting 'facts' people on here feel qualified to spout ! bottom line is both items would be better in a skip than in your home real or not x
err, they are real, its a FACT..
one from the street in situ
one for sale for ยฃ8000 on gumtree
enough said..
fake. if they were real why sell through gumtree? they are both legit.... nuff said. haha i love how many conflicting 'facts' people on here feel qualified to spout ! bottom line is both items would be better in a skip than in your home real or not x err, they are real, its a FACT.. one from the street in situ one for sale for ยฃ8000 on gumtree enough said.. |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by Curley on Jan 9, 2009 11:47:54 GMT 1, haha i love how many conflicting 'facts' people on here feel qualified to spout ! bottom line is both items would be better in a skip than in your home real or not x err, they are real, its a FACT.. one from the street in situ one for sale for ยฃ8000 on gumtree enough said..
Sorry i know you wanted to prove they were real but why post more pics of them in situ, IMO all you are doing is giving the seller more provenance and thus helping the sale of these STOLEN street pieces.
haha i love how many conflicting 'facts' people on here feel qualified to spout ! bottom line is both items would be better in a skip than in your home real or not x err, they are real, its a FACT.. one from the street in situ one for sale for ยฃ8000 on gumtree enough said.. Sorry i know you wanted to prove they were real but why post more pics of them in situ, IMO all you are doing is giving the seller more provenance and thus helping the sale of these STOLEN street pieces. |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by remirough on Jan 9, 2009 11:54:40 GMT 1, JEEZUS!!!
ยฃ8000 just for a HATS tag...
That's mental...
JEEZUS!!!
ยฃ8000 just for a HATS tag...
That's mental...
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by HowAboutNo on Jan 9, 2009 15:45:59 GMT 1, Both pieces seen in a book by Mr Bull, how apt ;D
Yes, apt that the t**t that's selling them went out and bought Martins book.
A lot of people unfortunately use that as provenance, bit unavoidable really.
Both pieces seen in a book by Mr Bull, how apt ;D Yes, apt that the t**t that's selling them went out and bought Martins book. A lot of people unfortunately use that as provenance, bit unavoidable really. |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by lee3 on Jan 9, 2009 17:43:55 GMT 1, >>>IMO all you are doing is giving the seller more provenance and thus helping the sale of these STOLEN street pieces.<<<<
Do you honestly believe someone is going to buy that stuff? It's horrible and near worthless given that PC would never authenticate it. IMO, there is more value salvaging that piece as scrap metal.
>>>IMO all you are doing is giving the seller more provenance and thus helping the sale of these STOLEN street pieces.<<<<
Do you honestly believe someone is going to buy that stuff? It's horrible and near worthless given that PC would never authenticate it. IMO, there is more value salvaging that piece as scrap metal.
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by Curley on Jan 9, 2009 17:45:43 GMT 1, >>>IMO all you are doing is giving the seller more provenance and thus helping the sale of these STOLEN street pieces.<<<< Do you honestly believe someone is going to buy that stuff? It's horrible and near worthless given that PC would never authenticate it. IMO, there is more value salvaging that piece as scrap metal.
To quote someone i cant remember "there's a sucker born every minute"
>>>IMO all you are doing is giving the seller more provenance and thus helping the sale of these STOLEN street pieces.<<<< Do you honestly believe someone is going to buy that stuff? It's horrible and near worthless given that PC would never authenticate it. IMO, there is more value salvaging that piece as scrap metal. To quote someone i cant remember "there's a sucker born every minute" |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by underpaidartist on Jan 9, 2009 18:01:14 GMT 1,
its a picture of a banksy rat in a book but still doesnt mean its rock solid by banksy does it
its a picture of a banksy rat in a book but still doesnt mean its rock solid by banksy does it
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by grantb on Jan 9, 2009 19:38:49 GMT 1, they are real. i spent a good 5 mins matching up all the markings.
they are real. i spent a good 5 mins matching up all the markings.
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by lee3 on Jan 9, 2009 21:16:19 GMT 1, >>>they are real. i spent a good 5 mins matching up all the markings. <<<
And anyone who believes that a huge, weathered, heavy, steel box will look nice in their home or appreciate over time is sadly mistaken. Is there anyone here that thinks "hmm, what a beauty, now THIS is the Banksy I've been searching for". I believe this is the exception to the one man's trash is another man's treasure rule as I can't see any sane person cherishing that ugly metal box. i'm laughing on the inside as i continue to type. this is hilarious.
Ok, ok, MAYBE if you proposed to your wife next to that thing for some strange reason or that box was the only thing in the way between an out of control car and your certain demise could i appreciate someone sharing a sentimental love for it. Even then, it can't be worth more than 4 or 5 dollars, right?
>>>they are real. i spent a good 5 mins matching up all the markings. <<<
And anyone who believes that a huge, weathered, heavy, steel box will look nice in their home or appreciate over time is sadly mistaken. Is there anyone here that thinks "hmm, what a beauty, now THIS is the Banksy I've been searching for". I believe this is the exception to the one man's trash is another man's treasure rule as I can't see any sane person cherishing that ugly metal box. i'm laughing on the inside as i continue to type. this is hilarious.
Ok, ok, MAYBE if you proposed to your wife next to that thing for some strange reason or that box was the only thing in the way between an out of control car and your certain demise could i appreciate someone sharing a sentimental love for it. Even then, it can't be worth more than 4 or 5 dollars, right?
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by Gurn on Jan 9, 2009 23:08:53 GMT 1, >>>they are real. i spent a good 5 mins matching up all the markings. <<< And anyone who believes that a huge, weathered, heavy, steel box will look nice in their home or appreciate over time is sadly mistaken. Is there anyone here that thinks "hmm, what a beauty, now THIS is the Banksy I've been searching for". I believe this is the exception to the one man's trash is another man's treasure rule as I can't see any sane person cherishing that ugly metal box. i'm laughing on the inside as i continue to type. this is hilarious. Ok, ok, MAYBE if you proposed to your wife next to that thing for some strange reason or that box was the only thing in the way between an out of control car and your certain demise could i appreciate someone sharing a sentimental love for it. Even then, it can't be worth more than 4 or 5 dollars, right?
Haha..this made me smile because,as I said in an earlier post,this is the first Banksy I ever saw and so could be described as the piece that started my interest in his work.Therefore,I guess it does hold a bit of sentiment.....however.....Would I ever consider owning a stolen street piece?......Not a chance.
>>>they are real. i spent a good 5 mins matching up all the markings. <<< And anyone who believes that a huge, weathered, heavy, steel box will look nice in their home or appreciate over time is sadly mistaken. Is there anyone here that thinks "hmm, what a beauty, now THIS is the Banksy I've been searching for". I believe this is the exception to the one man's trash is another man's treasure rule as I can't see any sane person cherishing that ugly metal box. i'm laughing on the inside as i continue to type. this is hilarious. Ok, ok, MAYBE if you proposed to your wife next to that thing for some strange reason or that box was the only thing in the way between an out of control car and your certain demise could i appreciate someone sharing a sentimental love for it. Even then, it can't be worth more than 4 or 5 dollars, right? Haha..this made me smile because,as I said in an earlier post,this is the first Banksy I ever saw and so could be described as the piece that started my interest in his work.Therefore,I guess it does hold a bit of sentiment.....however.....Would I ever consider owning a stolen street piece?......Not a chance. |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by thesewalls on Jan 10, 2009 13:22:05 GMT 1, for starters, lee, grantb was being facetious...i'll take any reason to get you going though i always love what you have to say.
gurn, i'm glad you chimed in to start the painting of the following picture...you grew up around the corner from the box. walked by it every day. remembered the moment you noticed the new Banksy tag. remembered the day someone yoinked it. love street art, have a sense of humor about the current state of affairs, yada yada yada. i'm NOT saying this is worth anywhere near it's price tag, but a super duty lock box isn't cheap. could be perfect in some trendy restaurant/coffee shop/clothing store/whatever, and would of course double as a table and secure storage unit. just a thought.
haha just noticed your signature gurn...if you would never consider owning a stolen street piece, you're not much of a tiger are you!
for starters, lee, grantb was being facetious...i'll take any reason to get you going though i always love what you have to say.
gurn, i'm glad you chimed in to start the painting of the following picture...you grew up around the corner from the box. walked by it every day. remembered the moment you noticed the new Banksy tag. remembered the day someone yoinked it. love street art, have a sense of humor about the current state of affairs, yada yada yada. i'm NOT saying this is worth anywhere near it's price tag, but a super duty lock box isn't cheap. could be perfect in some trendy restaurant/coffee shop/clothing store/whatever, and would of course double as a table and secure storage unit. just a thought.
haha just noticed your signature gurn...if you would never consider owning a stolen street piece, you're not much of a tiger are you!
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by snausages on Jan 10, 2009 15:46:28 GMT 1, Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we? 
Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we? |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by Deleted on Jan 10, 2009 15:51:02 GMT 1, good post. Did anyone ever find out what happened to those Banksy canvases that were stolen from a gallery in London, i think a couple of hooded boys ran in and grabbed them right off the walls. was a year or so ago but heard nothign more.....
good post. Did anyone ever find out what happened to those Banksy canvases that were stolen from a gallery in London, i think a couple of hooded boys ran in and grabbed them right off the walls. was a year or so ago but heard nothign more.....
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by andrewd on Jan 10, 2009 15:58:02 GMT 1, The box provided electricity for an ( boat ) unused mooring. Probably the property of the PLA ( port of London Authority ) or the City of London.
Many a padlock was broken off the box and one attempt to cut it open resulted in the cut to the top left of the rat. The broken blade was left insitu. The rat was marked with a silver pen by probably by the same person who defaced the umberella rat on Leonard Street.
It eventually removed in it's entireity leaving a whole pile of live electrical leads sitting on a relatively busy footpath. Classy.
Pity as I rather liked that rat.
The box provided electricity for an ( boat ) unused mooring. Probably the property of the PLA ( port of London Authority ) or the City of London.
Many a padlock was broken off the box and one attempt to cut it open resulted in the cut to the top left of the rat. The broken blade was left insitu. The rat was marked with a silver pen by probably by the same person who defaced the umberella rat on Leonard Street.
It eventually removed in it's entireity leaving a whole pile of live electrical leads sitting on a relatively busy footpath. Classy.
Pity as I rather liked that rat.
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by Curley on Jan 10, 2009 16:21:34 GMT 1, Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we?
just to be clear where i said stolen street pieces i was not referring to the actual boxes themselves (which i couldn't give a toss about) i was referring to the Banksy pieces attached to them that were there for every one to enjoy and not to be flogged on Gumtree.
For me this shows why pest control are right in not authenticating this kind of shit.
Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we? just to be clear where i said stolen street pieces i was not referring to the actual boxes themselves (which i couldn't give a toss about) i was referring to the Banksy pieces attached to them that were there for every one to enjoy and not to be flogged on Gumtree. For me this shows why pest control are right in not authenticating this kind of shit. |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by snausages on Jan 10, 2009 16:31:08 GMT 1, Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we? just to be clear where i said stolen street pieces i was not referring to the actual boxes themselves (which i couldn't give a toss about) i was referring to the Banksy pieces attached to them that were there for every one to enjoy and not to be flogged on Gumtree. For me this shows why pest control are right in not authenticating this kind of s**t.
Well, I think that's a little bit heavy of a sentiment for a worn out spray painted rat. But I can understand why PC won't authenticate it. For that would of course open Banksy up to criminal prosecution for defacing public property.
Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we? just to be clear where i said stolen street pieces i was not referring to the actual boxes themselves (which i couldn't give a toss about) i was referring to the Banksy pieces attached to them that were there for every one to enjoy and not to be flogged on Gumtree. For me this shows why pest control are right in not authenticating this kind of s**t. Well, I think that's a little bit heavy of a sentiment for a worn out spray painted rat. But I can understand why PC won't authenticate it. For that would of course open Banksy up to criminal prosecution for defacing public property. |
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Banksy street pieces on Gumtree, by baznyc on Jan 10, 2009 16:45:40 GMT 1, Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we? just to be clear where i said stolen street pieces i was not referring to the actual boxes themselves (which i couldn't give a toss about) i was referring to the Banksy pieces attached to them that were there for every one to enjoy and not to be flogged on Gumtree. For me this shows why pest control are right in not authenticating this kind of s**t.
Spot on Curley.
Were these items originally property of the city or government? If not how do you know they were stolen? The owner might have very well sold it on himself or might have very well been paid by someone to take it. And if it was actually stolen from the govt. I'm surprised how many people here have such a national & local pride that they refuse to own anything ever stolen from the government or their municipality. ...sheesh, we're not much in the way of true rebels or vandals here, are we? just to be clear where i said stolen street pieces i was not referring to the actual boxes themselves (which i couldn't give a toss about) i was referring to the Banksy pieces attached to them that were there for every one to enjoy and not to be flogged on Gumtree. For me this shows why pest control are right in not authenticating this kind of s**t. Spot on Curley. |
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