Dface Ha Ha Ha Not So Superman Print

[fatherxmas]

^^^^ LOL @ SUNDOWNER
BATE FLIPPER..BUT NICELY PUT "Incidently I will be keeping mine for at least a few months before I try and swap for something else....unless anyone offers me anything interesting! "

Also, MJ Im not here to take sides i just think people take this a lil to far. Cos there is others on here who hold the print for a little while but then say " due to financial reasons" i have to sell but will never sell @ cost. For instance TIMBA and his life to short..

[timba82]

Oct 3, 2008 16:53:36 GMT 1 mj said:

Thanks fatherxmas and I total agree that loads of members of this forum have been or still are flipping business, people like timba82 not long ago he was looking for someone to sell [ flip ] the Life is Too Short by NW. To all of you two faces c**** I can flip you guys' between my salty b****

hahaha if you think i flipped lifes too short then why do i still want to buy one??? look below my posts. been that way for a while now so maybe u should get your facts right

as for you fatherxmas......when i said 'brave' it was due to the fact your putting your neck on the line for public lynching on here, not because i feel the need to ruff you up over a print!

grow up!

[snakes]

Oct 3, 2008 14:51:06 GMT 1 dinomaa said:

Oct 3, 2008 14:40:16 GMT 1 @ronhill said:

didn't think i would like it until i saw it up close. great colours and detail.

Same here wasn't expecting to get one but took the reserve number just in case. Wonder if they'll release the rest of the dface vs superman pieces as prints to make the story.

would not bloody surprise me; it would be rude to turn down a nice little earner wouldn't it

(it could be the new street improvements collection)..

[Francis]

You're a flipper, mj!

[theb]

See the thing is for some of us in the states that really like the Superman image, who couldn't make it to the show, like myself would be willing to buy it from someone in the forum, but the idea of someone waiting in line just to flip it makes it much less attractive then someone who just made the decision that at the end of the day their wife, spouse, significant other just didn't like it and now they have to get rid of it.

Besides, this is a community of people with a shared passion for the work not just for making an extra buck.

[Sundowner]

Incidentally I wonder how many people on here have bought a Liberty print and are trying to do the same as MJ?

[Heavyconsumer]

Oct 3, 2008 17:13:15 GMT 1 Sundowner said:

Incidentally I wonder how many people on here have bought a Liberty print and are trying to do the same as MJ?

If you mean selling it on at a profit, agreed. If you mean rubbing members' noses in it, because they were unable to attend the show, I think it makes them not only profiteers (not an insult, just an observation), but also quite disresepectful to the source of a great deal of the knowledge they have acquired of this genre, not to mention information leading to their purchases and collections (or profit margins, as the case may be). I'm not opening myself up to the whole rights/wrongs of flipping here, as I know I'll offend and be abused, but I am suggesting that posting such items on these boards takes the piss a bit imho (I'll shut up about it now, I promise). I'm also suggesting it's unproductive for vendors seeking a cash deal, as the same buyers are already watching the items on ebay, so why bother with all this bickering when it's unlikely to affect the bottom line? I honestly don't see the point unless seeking a swap deal, which changes things a little as ebay is no longer an option.

[gbh]

what you said

8+)

[fatherxmas]

im amazed at how many new members have shot up sicne the rise of his credibility since bonhams this yr.

FLIPPERS help towards an artists career. Its just like bankers tipping shares..If your in first your laughing at all the donkeys buying in second.
Just liek art, if you got on the boat many yrs ago..You must be rubbing your hands together and thinking ive struck BLACK GOLD here

Ive struck gold today HBOS since wednesday..40%

A further 25% to be made..TAKE NOTE 25% RETURN

[Existencil]

I think it's fair if somebody wants to sell their print. At the end of the day, he's had the ingenuity to get down to BRP and grab a print. People have to have an interest in street art to be able to make these kinds of purchases and sales. Fair play. How many people have purchased gig tickets from Ebay at inflated prices and had a great time at a show they would otherwise have not seen?

Incidentally, my Superman print is on Ebay - actually the only one up at the moment...

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260295547691

[pfffffffffft]

ingenuity? you are joking yes?

[graeme501]

wow ur right stuey

thanks for buying the print and offering it to us at an inflated price

[alsbabar]

ingenuity of getting into the queue before someone else

[spirit]

Oct 3, 2008 18:51:29 GMT 1 Existencil said:

Incidentally, my Superman print is on Ebay - actually the only one up at the moment...

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260295547691

From your listing:
"This is a fantastic opportunity to get your hands on a low edition DFace print before his prices go beyond the affordable."

Just out of interest, as you're clearly in it for the money, why don't you wait until the "prices go beyond the affordable" and sell it then? - you'd make more money!

or is that just bullshit and you know that the highest prices are generally in the first 24 hours after release and prices go downhill from there - see Nick walker show prints for example...

[bored with screen names]

Oct 3, 2008 19:23:30 GMT 1 spirit said:

Oct 3, 2008 18:51:29 GMT 1 Existencil said:

Incidentally, my Superman print is on Ebay - actually the only one up at the moment...

cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260295547691

From your listing:
"This is a fantastic opportunity to get your hands on a low edition DFace print before his prices go beyond the affordable."

Just out of interest, as you're clearly in it for the money, why don't you wait until the "prices go beyond the affordable" and sell it then? - you'd make more money!

or is that just bulls**t and you know that the highest prices are generally in the first 24 hours after release and prices go downhill from there - see Nick walker show prints for example...

The man has a good point.

[Sundowner]

Just to be clear guys, I meant buying and selling on at a profit, not rubbing people's noses in it!

Incidently, both Superman prints that have sold in the last 24 hours on evilbay have gone for £600 (£150 and £250 below their two BIN prices).

To be fair to MJ, given that this print was only available on the night, there will be a fair few people that want it that couldn't go or weren't one of the chosen few........I just think that trying to sell it on for £1,250 with a free plastic card and a D*Face balloon less than 24 hours later is taking the p*** a bit.

The next Banksy release could be interesting.......if people think they can get at least 3 x what they paid in 24 hours by putting on ebay then the market will get flooded very quickly.

[Prescription Art]

Oct 3, 2008 20:01:48 GMT 1 Sundowner said:

The next Banksy release could be interesting.......if people think they can get at least 3 x what they paid in 24 hours by putting on ebay then the market will get flooded very quickly.

You mean exactly the same as what's happened with every release since Grannies?

[Sundowner]

Yep.......how many people were queueing outside the ghetto when Flags was released?

[timba82]

Oct 3, 2008 20:24:03 GMT 1 Sundowner said:

Yep.......how many people were queueing outside the ghetto when Flags was released?

wizbong is that you?

[Harveyn]

Oct 3, 2008 16:24:31 GMT 1 gbh said:

I'd say people should stick to their day jobs and let people who actually want the prints buy them.

Didn't Jboy start a board for flippers?

1000% gbh. I think if you want to go to a show and buy a print to make a quick profit you would be better sticking it on Ebay rather than on a forum that is supposed to be for people who actually like art.

[veralynn]

Oct 3, 2008 17:41:22 GMT 1 @fatherxmas said:

im amazed at how many new members have shot up sicne the rise of his credibility since bonhams this yr.

FLIPPERS help towards an artists career. Its just like bankers tipping shares..If your in first your laughing at all the donkeys buying in second.
Just liek art, if you got on the boat many yrs ago..You must be rubbing your hands together and thinking ive struck BLACK GOLD here

Ive struck gold today HBOS since wednesday..40%

A further 25% to be made..TAKE NOTE 25% RETURN

What does this mean?

Does it mean that you're amongst the day trading Mayfair massive?

This is supposed to be an art forum, if you wanna flip Art then flip it, there's no crime there, just don't pretend to be something you are not (I'm a bagger but shit at it). 'Collection'? nonsence.

My view (and I'm entitled to it, since my relatives fought for it) is that these images are shite, waste of money and time if you queued, this forum certainly aint the place it was, too many takers, we are the architects of our own misery.

[moleman]

who is to say next year this print wont be worth a few grand or even one its the risk of buying art if you want to sell it on asap
if you wannasell do it i would not do it here people are to fanatical but when i had a clear out last i sold my byroglifics some one said whats the point they were 15 quid and look what happened to them. People selling there d face superman will regret it as its class print. And yes some people qued all day for it but you could have qued from 4 maybe 5 and got a print the old days are coming back the onlyovernight cue is banksy and if thats in new york there wont be many here bought.
When i
asked once whats flip i was told any thing under two years old that would make 98% of people on hee flippers
1 get over it it happens here there every where
2 try not to do it here it makes rubbish long winded threads like this

[moleman]

you ar right harveyn 100% but if they have the balls to do it and like the media it will all be forgoteen in a week

[trasbash]

I went to the show. Rocked up at 18:30. Saw that there was a queue for the print. Couldnt be bothered to queue. Looked around the show, came back, saw that there was only 4 people in the queue. Waited 5 minutes and picked one of these up at about 19:15. For anyone that lost a nights sleep to get one of these prints, i unfortunatly have to say that it was unneccessary.

[Sundowner]

I'm with you trasbash - turned up at 5.50pm, got given one of the last golden tickets, wandered round the show and then bought the print about 7pm.

I have to say, I thought BRP did a good job of organising the demand for prints - I thought it would be mayhem, but by asking people outside who actually wanted a print and then giving them the ticket, this meant that things were done fairly.

[Existencil]

I think it was done fairly - managed to avoid the usual scrum. It was hilarious actually. There were a ton of people waiting around at 7.30 for the prints to go into freefall. I had one of the last tickets and just walked into the crowd to claim my print. It's a far, far better way of working and something Leonard Street could learn from. The last Beejoir release was a nightmare of disorganisation and chaos.

[gbh]

This topic has come up about eleventy billion times before.

Previously it has been discussed and discussed and it's clear from the general feelings over the years that flippers are scum and not welcome here (several have been hunted out of town by lynch mobs), that's why all the flipping has been on ebay and the flippers maintain an arms reach distance/hide behind their ebay user names.
but now absolute and blatant flipping like this feels it can just come right out and post in the forums balls and all?
fuck

this joint has really gone to shit
In my opinion, if you don't get what I'm saying or agree, you are probably part of the reason why.
welcome to the forum.

[gbh]

Oct 3, 2008 22:10:10 GMT 1 moleman said:

you ar right harveyn 100% but if they have the balls to do it and like the media it will all be forgoteen in a week

perhaps, but you'll (they) always be a c**t.....

[alsbabar]

Oct 4, 2008 0:53:12 GMT 1 Existencil said:

I think it was done fairly - managed to avoid the usual scrum. It was hilarious actually. There were a ton of people waiting around at 7.30 for the prints to go into freefall. I had one of the last tickets and just walked into the crowd to claim my print. It's a far, far better way of working and something Leonard Street could learn from. The last Beejoir release was a nightmare of disorganisation and chaos.

who's going to tell him about Leonard Street Gallery?

[arcam]

You can have the honour alsbabar.