craigf
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by craigf on Jul 30, 2008 14:52:29 GMT 1, OK, the seller says they are the original buyer and they have good feedback, but other parts worry me.
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110272963567&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001
It has a blind stamp - I've never seen a Barcode with one. It is a high number so it could be the last ones were stamped? What I can see of the numbering looks ok and it has the red stamp on it
300 weren't signed, but an easy mistake to make and not that significant
ยฃ120 spent on a perspex frame - looks like a ยฃ10 clip frame to me!!!
What does anyone else think? It could be legit and is currently very cheap
OK, the seller says they are the original buyer and they have good feedback, but other parts worry me. cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110272963567&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001It has a blind stamp - I've never seen a Barcode with one. It is a high number so it could be the last ones were stamped? What I can see of the numbering looks ok and it has the red stamp on it 300 weren't signed, but an easy mistake to make and not that significant ยฃ120 spent on a perspex frame - looks like a ยฃ10 clip frame to me!!! What does anyone else think? It could be legit and is currently very cheap
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by doublehelix on Jul 30, 2008 15:00:22 GMT 1, That frame won't have done the print any favours! And the ยฃ120 price quoted for what is obviously a cheap clip frame is very odd.
That frame won't have done the print any favours! And the ยฃ120 price quoted for what is obviously a cheap clip frame is very odd.
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RBK
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by RBK on Jul 30, 2008 15:28:04 GMT 1, Some have the blindstamp craigf.
Agree the seller shouldn't have included the frame in the pictures.
Some have the blindstamp craigf.
Agree the seller shouldn't have included the frame in the pictures.
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craigf
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by craigf on Jul 30, 2008 15:48:27 GMT 1, Some have the blindstamp craigf. Agree the seller shouldn't have included the frame in the pictures.
Thanks RBK, I checked on the print section here and possibly due to my incompetence could not find the normal clear and concise summary, but did see a post saying none were blind stamped
As for the framing, should have gone to MrFrameman
Some have the blindstamp craigf. Agree the seller shouldn't have included the frame in the pictures. Thanks RBK, I checked on the print section here and possibly due to my incompetence could not find the normal clear and concise summary, but did see a post saying none were blind stamped As for the framing, should have gone to MrFrameman
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by bullet on Jul 30, 2008 17:03:24 GMT 1, hmmm...
in summary i asked for full prov (not a covering email) and about the frame, here was the response
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(1) with regards to provenance: this was originally bought from POW a few years ago.... a long time before Banksy got as famous as he is now.. so, in all honesty, the provenance was not as important as I have imagined! At the time, all I got was a till receipt and the poster tube. I have just looked around for these and cant seem to find them. However, I can absolutely assure you that this is the genuine item.
(2)with regards to the frame Yes, the frame it is in now (as shown in the pics) is a clip frame. This will be the one that it will come in-- I will be sending it WITH the frame as this will minimise any possible damage to it during transit. The ยฃ120 cost I quoted was the price I paid for the mounting and frame at the time-- apolgise for the confusion. In terms of technical details, all I know is that it is under a dry acid free mount.
Hope this answers all the questions
hmmm...
in summary i asked for full prov (not a covering email) and about the frame, here was the response
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(1) with regards to provenance: this was originally bought from POW a few years ago.... a long time before Banksy got as famous as he is now.. so, in all honesty, the provenance was not as important as I have imagined! At the time, all I got was a till receipt and the poster tube. I have just looked around for these and cant seem to find them. However, I can absolutely assure you that this is the genuine item.
(2)with regards to the frame Yes, the frame it is in now (as shown in the pics) is a clip frame. This will be the one that it will come in-- I will be sending it WITH the frame as this will minimise any possible damage to it during transit. The ยฃ120 cost I quoted was the price I paid for the mounting and frame at the time-- apolgise for the confusion. In terms of technical details, all I know is that it is under a dry acid free mount.
Hope this answers all the questions
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RBK
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by RBK on Jul 30, 2008 17:27:03 GMT 1, Mailing something flat is often prone to getting messed up. If any of you end up buying this print and are having it shipped - I would request tube within a larger tube no question.
Mailing something flat is often prone to getting messed up. If any of you end up buying this print and are having it shipped - I would request tube within a larger tube no question.
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by bullet on Jul 30, 2008 17:28:25 GMT 1, its the fact its worthless without prov that worries me, there is to much of this going on with ebay at the mo.
its the fact its worthless without prov that worries me, there is to much of this going on with ebay at the mo.
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RBK
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by RBK on Jul 30, 2008 17:32:56 GMT 1, Should be fairly easy to get provenance through POW if you get the sellers name, no?
Should be fairly easy to get provenance through POW if you get the sellers name, no?
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by bullet on Jul 30, 2008 17:33:56 GMT 1, Well he says he has a till receipt but that would not have contained his name and contact details if bought from a shop...
Well he says he has a till receipt but that would not have contained his name and contact details if bought from a shop...
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redfred
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by redfred on Jul 30, 2008 18:21:39 GMT 1, He says he is the original buyer and he bought from POW therefore his name will be on their database, get his name and check with POW, or am I missing something??
He says he is the original buyer and he bought from POW therefore his name will be on their database, get his name and check with POW, or am I missing something??
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by snakes on Jul 30, 2008 18:29:25 GMT 1, He says he is the original buyer and he bought from POW therefore his name will be on their database, get his name and check with POW, or am I missing something??
yep - the seller needs to get his facts straight.
I smell fish and I cannot see a fish
He says he is the original buyer and he bought from POW therefore his name will be on their database, get his name and check with POW, or am I missing something?? yep - the seller needs to get his facts straight. I smell fish and I cannot see a fish
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dotdot
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by dotdot on Jul 30, 2008 20:16:40 GMT 1, I'd give this seller the ben of the doubt.
Shame about the frame though - you never know it might be cool in the flesh ..
Anyone conf with - pow ?
I'll prob check this out in the morning.
As for prov with receipts etc.. that's imho a bit tad ott jb - but hey if that's your bag go for it.
I'd give this seller the ben of the doubt.
Shame about the frame though - you never know it might be cool in the flesh ..
Anyone conf with - pow ?
I'll prob check this out in the morning.
As for prov with receipts etc.. that's imho a bit tad ott jb - but hey if that's your bag go for it.
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RBK
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by RBK on Jul 30, 2008 20:26:03 GMT 1, I would also give the seller the benefit of the doubt. Think someone is going to get a steal here (or maybe people are purposedly putting up smoke and mirrors to deter other bidders).
From the pics it looks good to me. Encourage the seller to dig deeper on the provenance and maybe even pay the small fee to obtain a historical bank/cc statement showing the purchase. You can always win an auction and request more provenance to make you feel better (worst case the deal doesn't culminate and you get one negative feedback).
I would also give the seller the benefit of the doubt. Think someone is going to get a steal here (or maybe people are purposedly putting up smoke and mirrors to deter other bidders).
From the pics it looks good to me. Encourage the seller to dig deeper on the provenance and maybe even pay the small fee to obtain a historical bank/cc statement showing the purchase. You can always win an auction and request more provenance to make you feel better (worst case the deal doesn't culminate and you get one negative feedback).
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by GB on Jul 30, 2008 20:49:48 GMT 1, So he has just responded to me saying now it was brought by a "broker agent" and not by him..... he gave his name, which is honest. But this just doesnt add up.....
So he has just responded to me saying now it was brought by a "broker agent" and not by him..... he gave his name, which is honest. But this just doesnt add up.....
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by bullet on Jul 30, 2008 23:12:54 GMT 1, nah, he is giving different responses to things.
I would have bid on it if it was water tight and i was not going on holiday at 3am.
nah, he is giving different responses to things.
I would have bid on it if it was water tight and i was not going on holiday at 3am.
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funster
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by funster on Jul 30, 2008 23:17:16 GMT 1, nah, he is giving different responses to things. I would have bid on it if it was water tight and i was not going on holiday at 3am.
Have a good holiday
nah, he is giving different responses to things. I would have bid on it if it was water tight and i was not going on holiday at 3am. Have a good holiday
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by bullet on Jul 30, 2008 23:21:09 GMT 1, cheers matey, good 'ol beach holidays - leaving all technical wizardry behind - they will probably drop a walker and banksy in the same week and i will be blissfully unaware!
cheers matey, good 'ol beach holidays - leaving all technical wizardry behind - they will probably drop a walker and banksy in the same week and i will be blissfully unaware!
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by babyford on Jul 31, 2008 22:19:54 GMT 1, Will be interesting to see what this goes for 10 mins to go I loved some of the questions and answers on this piece I hope it is genuine
Will be interesting to see what this goes for 10 mins to go I loved some of the questions and answers on this piece I hope it is genuine
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by Deleted on Jul 31, 2008 22:23:45 GMT 1, The seller seems to be skirting around the "Backing board" question.
The seller seems to be skirting around the "Backing board" question.
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by babyford on Jul 31, 2008 22:31:42 GMT 1, Sold -ยฃ1071...Bargain if genuine If only the seller he had kept the original receipt
Sold -ยฃ1071...Bargain if genuine If only the seller he had kept the original receipt
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by snakes on Jul 31, 2008 23:34:55 GMT 1, acid-free dry mount.
I hope whoever won collects in person and gets to be able to remove from clip frame before cash handover.
That way they will be saving themselves a lot of money
acid-free dry mount.
I hope whoever won collects in person and gets to be able to remove from clip frame before cash handover.
That way they will be saving themselves a lot of money
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by Guest on Aug 1, 2008 0:05:17 GMT 1, seems like the owner is genuine, but does not know what he is selling. good luck who ever bought it.
seems like the owner is genuine, but does not know what he is selling. good luck who ever bought it.
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dotdot
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by dotdot on Aug 1, 2008 8:46:11 GMT 1, yeah i agree someone picked up a fine bargain - i missed out - life called - and i forgot.
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yeah i agree someone picked up a fine bargain - i missed out - life called - and i forgot.
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lostplotter
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by lostplotter on Aug 1, 2008 8:52:24 GMT 1, Yeah I hope it all checks out for the new owner, I manged to get print number out of him, intermediate buyers name and I was going to collect in person. Missed out by ยฃ20. Bugger bugger bugger.
Yeah I hope it all checks out for the new owner, I manged to get print number out of him, intermediate buyers name and I was going to collect in person. Missed out by ยฃ20. Bugger bugger bugger.
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by Guest on Aug 1, 2008 9:00:55 GMT 1, It would be a good deal if you and the seller could take the print to POW to be verified as genuine. if not i think i would steer clear of such a bargain.
It would be a good deal if you and the seller could take the print to POW to be verified as genuine. if not i think i would steer clear of such a bargain.
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lostplotter
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by lostplotter on Aug 1, 2008 10:38:47 GMT 1, We are all such sceptics maybe it was just a good honest bargain
We are all such sceptics maybe it was just a good honest bargain
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Barcode with POW Blind Stamp, by G-Man on Aug 1, 2008 15:03:03 GMT 1, If it seems to good to be true it probably is
If it seems to good to be true it probably is
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