mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by mojo on Nov 16, 2024 18:22:50 GMT 1, Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders (MSF) UK -LINK
Artist Fundraiser for their work in Palestine Leading voices from across the field of contemporary art join forces to raise funds for essential humanitarian aid for Palestine through an exhibition and major online art auction. Over 200 artworks have been donated, spanning the disciplines of art, architecture, engineering, and literature. All proceeds will go towards the work of Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders (MSF) UK in Gaza and the West Bank. There will be an exhibition of all the artworks at 14 Wharf Road. This will launch with a reception event on Friday 22nd November and will be open to the public during the auction. It will be a unique opportunity to acquire significant artworks by leading contemporary artists, and directly provide essential help for the humanitarian crisis in Palestine. Online bidding opens on 18th November and closes on the 1st December.
Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders (MSF) UK - LINKArtist Fundraiser for their work in Palestine Leading voices from across the field of contemporary art join forces to raise funds for essential humanitarian aid for Palestine through an exhibition and major online art auction. Over 200 artworks have been donated, spanning the disciplines of art, architecture, engineering, and literature. All proceeds will go towards the work of Médecins Sans Frontières / Doctors Without Borders (MSF) UK in Gaza and the West Bank. There will be an exhibition of all the artworks at 14 Wharf Road. This will launch with a reception event on Friday 22nd November and will be open to the public during the auction. It will be a unique opportunity to acquire significant artworks by leading contemporary artists, and directly provide essential help for the humanitarian crisis in Palestine. Online bidding opens on 18th November and closes on the 1st December.
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by mojo on Nov 16, 2024 18:26:13 GMT 1, Artists wary of discussing Gaza war, says Jeremy Deller - LINK
The culture war has made artists wary of discussing the Israel-Palestine conflict, according to Jeremy Deller, who has donated work to a charity auction to support Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF).
Deller is one of more than 260 artists, including Yinka Shonibare, Wolfgang Tillmans, Mark Wallinger, Mona Hatoum, Sir John Akomfrah, Jesse Darling and Dame Sonia Boyce, who have contributed work that will be sold at the exhibition and auction in aid of the medical charity’s work in Palestine.
“You have to be careful, because it is politicised and it shouldn’t be,” Deller said when asked if he thought artists feared repercussions. “It’s become part of the war … the culture war and the war itself have run concurrently. I think that’s maybe made some people a bit fearful, wary.”
More than 300 works will be for sale in an online auction that runs from 18 November until 1 December. An exhibition of the work will be held at 14 Wharf Road, north London.
Rana Begum, one of several Royal Academy alumni who organised the auction, said the event served a double purpose: a way for artists to raise funds and a “safe space” for them to discuss the conflict.
“It just hasn’t been easy for people to talk, to be able to have a dialogue, even to understand, even to learn. People are so afraid of doing or saying anything,” she said. “I think what this auction is doing, and something far beyond raising money, is also giving a space for voices, for diverse voices.”
This year the Fossil Free Books campaign successfully pressed several book festivals to sever ties with the investment firm Baillie Gifford because of its investments in fossil fuel companies and Israeli state-owned arms manufacturers. Afterwards, some argued that “art should not be political” and that “art should be for art’s sake”.
Deller said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term. It’s like saying writing should be for writing’s sake, or film-making for film-making’s sake. It doesn’t work like that. You can’t unless you have an exalted position as an artist where you can just make abstract work and get paid handsomely for it. You know, there are people like that. But on the whole that’s not how it works. I studied art history, it’s never worked like that.”
However, Deller said art did not have to be political and that it was a mistake to expect artists to offer solutions.
“I don’t think we should look to artists for answers. Artists shouldn’t expect artists to solve the problems of the world, because they tried it. It hasn’t worked,” he said.
“Often very rich, powerful people think artists can solve the world’s ills. We can raise money for charities … Live Aid, basically. That’s the most practical, immediate thing that we can do and that’s what this exhibition and auction is.”
Dr Natalie Roberts, the executive director of MSF UK, said the organisation was deeply moved by and grateful for the generosity of the artists who had supported its work.
She said: “Their creativity and commitment are a testament to the power of art to inspire compassion and solidarity. These funds will have a direct impact on our ability to provide immediate life-saving medical care to some of the most marginalised people in society.”
Artists wary of discussing Gaza war, says Jeremy Deller - LINKThe culture war has made artists wary of discussing the Israel-Palestine conflict, according to Jeremy Deller, who has donated work to a charity auction to support Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF). Deller is one of more than 260 artists, including Yinka Shonibare, Wolfgang Tillmans, Mark Wallinger, Mona Hatoum, Sir John Akomfrah, Jesse Darling and Dame Sonia Boyce, who have contributed work that will be sold at the exhibition and auction in aid of the medical charity’s work in Palestine. “You have to be careful, because it is politicised and it shouldn’t be,” Deller said when asked if he thought artists feared repercussions. “It’s become part of the war … the culture war and the war itself have run concurrently. I think that’s maybe made some people a bit fearful, wary.” More than 300 works will be for sale in an online auction that runs from 18 November until 1 December. An exhibition of the work will be held at 14 Wharf Road, north London. Rana Begum, one of several Royal Academy alumni who organised the auction, said the event served a double purpose: a way for artists to raise funds and a “safe space” for them to discuss the conflict. “It just hasn’t been easy for people to talk, to be able to have a dialogue, even to understand, even to learn. People are so afraid of doing or saying anything,” she said. “I think what this auction is doing, and something far beyond raising money, is also giving a space for voices, for diverse voices.” This year the Fossil Free Books campaign successfully pressed several book festivals to sever ties with the investment firm Baillie Gifford because of its investments in fossil fuel companies and Israeli state-owned arms manufacturers. Afterwards, some argued that “art should not be political” and that “art should be for art’s sake”. Deller said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term. It’s like saying writing should be for writing’s sake, or film-making for film-making’s sake. It doesn’t work like that. You can’t unless you have an exalted position as an artist where you can just make abstract work and get paid handsomely for it. You know, there are people like that. But on the whole that’s not how it works. I studied art history, it’s never worked like that.” However, Deller said art did not have to be political and that it was a mistake to expect artists to offer solutions. “I don’t think we should look to artists for answers. Artists shouldn’t expect artists to solve the problems of the world, because they tried it. It hasn’t worked,” he said. “Often very rich, powerful people think artists can solve the world’s ills. We can raise money for charities … Live Aid, basically. That’s the most practical, immediate thing that we can do and that’s what this exhibition and auction is.” Dr Natalie Roberts, the executive director of MSF UK, said the organisation was deeply moved by and grateful for the generosity of the artists who had supported its work. She said: “Their creativity and commitment are a testament to the power of art to inspire compassion and solidarity. These funds will have a direct impact on our ability to provide immediate life-saving medical care to some of the most marginalised people in society.”
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by mojo on Nov 16, 2024 18:29:44 GMT 1, Kindly share, bid & spend BIG...Please. LINK
LINK
Kindly share, bid & spend BIG...Please. LINK
LINK
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by its all about me on Nov 18, 2024 13:28:06 GMT 1, I can't find the actual auction items. Is it not online yet?
I can't find the actual auction items. Is it not online yet?
|
|
STP
New Member
🗨️ 328
👍🏻 900
February 2022
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by STP on Nov 18, 2024 13:55:58 GMT 1, I can't find the actual auction items. Is it not online yet? Bidding is due to open sometime today.
I can't find the actual auction items. Is it not online yet? Bidding is due to open sometime today.
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Wimbledon 1981 on Nov 18, 2024 15:42:53 GMT 1, Glad to see art for a great cause.
Glad to see art for a great cause.
|
|
|
7star
New Member
🗨️ 181
👍🏻 113
December 2013
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by 7star on Nov 18, 2024 21:44:22 GMT 1, That Gormley is rather tasty! Wouldn't mind that ........... the Brian Eno light box is also pretty nice
That Gormley is rather tasty! Wouldn't mind that ........... the Brian Eno light box is also pretty nice
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by mojo on Nov 18, 2024 23:12:37 GMT 1, link to catalogue
Love the Brian Eno Lightbox
Jeremy Deller just made me cry but is a very stark reminder of what this fundraiser is all about. Bid Here LINK
link to catalogueLove the Brian Eno Lightbox Jeremy Deller just made me cry but is a very stark reminder of what this fundraiser is all about. Bid Here LINK
|
|
loui
New Member
🗨️ 947
👍🏻 672
January 2024
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by loui on Nov 18, 2024 23:34:24 GMT 1, LINK“Often very rich, powerful people think artists can solve the world’s ills.” Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️
LINK“Often very rich, powerful people think artists can solve the world’s ills.” Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by its all about me on Nov 19, 2024 13:18:32 GMT 1, LINK“Often very rich, powerful people think artists can solve the world’s ills.” Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️ That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that.
LINK“Often very rich, powerful people think artists can solve the world’s ills.” Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️ That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that.
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Georgie Poppit on Nov 19, 2024 13:34:41 GMT 1, I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict.
I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict.
|
|
Poster Bob
Junior Member
🗨️ 5,891
👍🏻 5,525
September 2013
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Poster Bob on Nov 19, 2024 13:43:59 GMT 1, I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. Please post examples of what you think is anti-Israel. I took a quick scroll through and didn’t see anything of note.
I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. Please post examples of what you think is anti-Israel. I took a quick scroll through and didn’t see anything of note.
|
|
Reader
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,272
👍🏻 2,832
June 2016
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Reader on Nov 19, 2024 14:54:28 GMT 1, I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. By definition, all art is anti-Israel, and there aren't "two sides" in a genocide, also by definition.
I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. By definition, all art is anti-Israel, and there aren't "two sides" in a genocide, also by definition.
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by The Italian One on Nov 19, 2024 15:27:15 GMT 1, I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. actually I see just one side! killing kids , familys, civilians and reporters doesn't make Israel on the right side!
I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. actually I see just one side! killing kids , familys, civilians and reporters doesn't make Israel on the right side!
|
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Happy Shopper on Nov 19, 2024 15:48:17 GMT 1, some of the art shown is very anti Israel. Can you point some out? I've been scrolling through them and don't see many that are political at all. Is a Palestinian flag now anti israel by just existing?
some of the art shown is very anti Israel. Can you point some out? I've been scrolling through them and don't see many that are political at all. Is a Palestinian flag now anti israel by just existing?
|
|
loui
New Member
🗨️ 947
👍🏻 672
January 2024
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by loui on Nov 19, 2024 17:36:37 GMT 1, Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️ That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that. Very much agree with you. Peculuar perception indeed from Deller.
Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️ That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that. Very much agree with you. Peculuar perception indeed from Deller.
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by mojo on Nov 19, 2024 22:56:50 GMT 1, Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️ That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that. Jeremy Deller is free to say what ever he wants while being interviewed to promote a show that he has very genourously donated work to on behalf of MSF. His 'perculiar perception' has enabled him to create highly acclaimed and interesting award winning work LINK ...I love what he does, but to each their own we can't all like the same things, that would be very boring.
Pretty peculiar thought. I don't see very rich, powerful people thinking about artists solving the world's problems at all. They think about sending space shuttles to the moon, about yachts that cost billion, about submarines to the bottom of our seas. They think about their business and investment goals and they may even think about which artists to invest in. But very rich powerful people don't think about solving the world's problems, let alone about artists solving the world's problems. If at all they would think about solving the world's ills, they’d think it will only be them that could solve those.Many examples about; trump, musk etc 🤷🏽♂️ That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that. Jeremy Deller is free to say what ever he wants while being interviewed to promote a show that he has very genourously donated work to on behalf of MSF. His 'perculiar perception' has enabled him to create highly acclaimed and interesting award winning work LINK ...I love what he does, but to each their own we can't all like the same things, that would be very boring.
|
|
loui
New Member
🗨️ 947
👍🏻 672
January 2024
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by loui on Nov 20, 2024 21:35:26 GMT 1, That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that. Jeremy Deller is free to say what ever he wants while being interviewed to promote a show that he has very genourously donated work to on behalf of MSF. His 'perculiar perception' has enabled him to create highly acclaimed and interesting award winning work LINK ...I love what he does, but to each their own we can't all like the same things, that would be very boring. No one is suggesting Deller isn’t free to say what he want.The things he says however are open for dispute. And he says some weird things. Maybe he should’ve hired you. You seem to be making a habit of trying to frame people. Mojo the king of framing (since 2014) 🙄 Tart.
That's not the only thing that Jeremy Deller says that is nonsense. He also said: “‘Art for art’s sake’ is a meaningless term". Of course it isn't. There's plenty of art out there that is not political or does not make a point or relate to the world trying to spread an important message. And long may it continue. I buy art not because I agree with the artists political views. I buy art because I gain pleasure from the image itself. And there is nothing wrong with that. Jeremy Deller is free to say what ever he wants while being interviewed to promote a show that he has very genourously donated work to on behalf of MSF. His 'perculiar perception' has enabled him to create highly acclaimed and interesting award winning work LINK ...I love what he does, but to each their own we can't all like the same things, that would be very boring. No one is suggesting Deller isn’t free to say what he want.The things he says however are open for dispute. And he says some weird things. Maybe he should’ve hired you. You seem to be making a habit of trying to frame people. Mojo the king of framing (since 2014) 🙄 Tart.
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by mojo on Nov 20, 2024 22:57:19 GMT 1, Jeremy Deller is free to say what ever he wants while being interviewed to promote a show that he has very genourously donated work to on behalf of MSF. His 'perculiar perception' has enabled him to create highly acclaimed and interesting award winning work LINK ...I love what he does, but to each their own we can't all like the same things, that would be very boring. No one is suggesting Deller isn’t free to say what he want.The things he says however are open for dispute. And he says some weird things. Maybe he should’ve hired you. You seem to be making a habit of trying to frame people. Mojo the king of framing (since 2014) 🙄 Tart. I started this thread to let people know about an Artist Fundraiser being held on behalf of MSF with a view to raising as much money as possible to support them with their life saving work in war torn Palestine. It would be really appreciated if we could try and keep the thread positive, there is absolutely no need for any negativity or criticism and definitely not any rude childish name calling. All of the artworks have been very kindly donated by the artists and everyone involved in this fundraiser is giving their time voluntarily, 100% of all the money raised goes to MSF. If you would like to bid on any of the work that has been kindly donated then please do so, it will really help MSF save lives in Palestine. link to catalogue
Jeremy Deller is free to say what ever he wants while being interviewed to promote a show that he has very genourously donated work to on behalf of MSF. His 'perculiar perception' has enabled him to create highly acclaimed and interesting award winning work LINK ...I love what he does, but to each their own we can't all like the same things, that would be very boring. No one is suggesting Deller isn’t free to say what he want.The things he says however are open for dispute. And he says some weird things. Maybe he should’ve hired you. You seem to be making a habit of trying to frame people. Mojo the king of framing (since 2014) 🙄 Tart. I started this thread to let people know about an Artist Fundraiser being held on behalf of MSF with a view to raising as much money as possible to support them with their life saving work in war torn Palestine. It would be really appreciated if we could try and keep the thread positive, there is absolutely no need for any negativity or criticism and definitely not any rude childish name calling. All of the artworks have been very kindly donated by the artists and everyone involved in this fundraiser is giving their time voluntarily, 100% of all the money raised goes to MSF. If you would like to bid on any of the work that has been kindly donated then please do so, it will really help MSF save lives in Palestine. link to catalogue
|
|
loui
New Member
🗨️ 947
👍🏻 672
January 2024
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by loui on Nov 20, 2024 23:24:59 GMT 1, No one is suggesting Deller isn’t free to say what he want.The things he says however are open for dispute. And he says some weird things. Maybe he should’ve hired you. You seem to be making a habit of trying to frame people. Mojo the king of framing (since 2014) 🙄 Tart. I started this thread to let people know about an Artist Fundraiser being held on behalf of MSF with a view to raising as much money as possible to support them with their life saving work in war torn Palestine. It would be really appreciated if we could try and keep the thread positive, there is absolutely no need for any negativity or criticism and definitely not any rude childish name calling. All of the artworks have been very kindly donated by the artists and everyone involved in this fundraiser is giving their time voluntarily, 100% of all the money raised goes to MSF. If you would like to bid on any of the work that has been kindly donated then please do so, it will really help MSF save lives in Palestine. link to catalogue
I think you’ve guessed by now mojo that I don’t hold you in high regard. That goes for your framing tactics as well. On the contrary, your baseness will never be able to be justified no matter how many posts for charity you post. If I was you I would now probably mention how kind I am to bump this thread. You are a pathetic creature 👻
No one is suggesting Deller isn’t free to say what he want.The things he says however are open for dispute. And he says some weird things. Maybe he should’ve hired you. You seem to be making a habit of trying to frame people. Mojo the king of framing (since 2014) 🙄 Tart. I started this thread to let people know about an Artist Fundraiser being held on behalf of MSF with a view to raising as much money as possible to support them with their life saving work in war torn Palestine. It would be really appreciated if we could try and keep the thread positive, there is absolutely no need for any negativity or criticism and definitely not any rude childish name calling. All of the artworks have been very kindly donated by the artists and everyone involved in this fundraiser is giving their time voluntarily, 100% of all the money raised goes to MSF. If you would like to bid on any of the work that has been kindly donated then please do so, it will really help MSF save lives in Palestine. link to catalogue
I think you’ve guessed by now mojo that I don’t hold you in high regard. That goes for your framing tactics as well. On the contrary, your baseness will never be able to be justified no matter how many posts for charity you post. If I was you I would now probably mention how kind I am to bump this thread. You are a pathetic creature 👻
|
|
amth
New Member
🗨️ 32
👍🏻 17
September 2021
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by amth on Nov 21, 2024 5:09:36 GMT 1, As an israeli, im sure all of you would just be chilling if one day 2000 terrorists came and raped killed and kidnapped your families. There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops.
Israel left gaza years ago, this occuption shit is getting old...but well...europe is next so youll see for yourself
As an israeli, im sure all of you would just be chilling if one day 2000 terrorists came and raped killed and kidnapped your families. There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops.
Israel left gaza years ago, this occuption shit is getting old...but well...europe is next so youll see for yourself
|
|
Tobi187
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,325
👍🏻 2,307
February 2018
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Tobi187 on Nov 21, 2024 7:44:46 GMT 1, A wise man once said: 'An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.'
A wise man once said: 'An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind.'
|
|
|
loui
New Member
🗨️ 947
👍🏻 672
January 2024
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by loui on Nov 21, 2024 7:54:45 GMT 1, As an israeli, im sure all of you would just be chilling if one day 2000 terrorists came and raped killed and kidnapped your families. There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops. Israel left gaza years ago, this occuption shit is getting old...but well...europe is next so youll see for yourself The tactics of most wars is dehumanising the other party. That goes for Hezbollah, Fatah and Hamas, who indoctrinate their people saying the Israelis are pigs, as well as for the Israelis who indoctrinate their people saying the people in Gaza are pigs. Pigs are easier to kill for most than people.
Personally I despise people who take other people in hostage and they should be held responsible for that. To make 2.000.000 people in Gaza responsible is the other end of the stick.
I’m not keen on the Iranian regime nor the Russian(Putin said all Ukrainians are Nazis 🙄), let alone the Chechnyan for that matter, with their wicked thoughts and deeds, but there also live people there.
As an israeli, im sure all of you would just be chilling if one day 2000 terrorists came and raped killed and kidnapped your families. There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops. Israel left gaza years ago, this occuption shit is getting old...but well...europe is next so youll see for yourself The tactics of most wars is dehumanising the other party. That goes for Hezbollah, Fatah and Hamas, who indoctrinate their people saying the Israelis are pigs, as well as for the Israelis who indoctrinate their people saying the people in Gaza are pigs. Pigs are easier to kill for most than people. Personally I despise people who take other people in hostage and they should be held responsible for that. To make 2.000.000 people in Gaza responsible is the other end of the stick. I’m not keen on the Iranian regime nor the Russian(Putin said all Ukrainians are Nazis 🙄), let alone the Chechnyan for that matter, with their wicked thoughts and deeds, but there also live people there.
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Georgie Poppit on Nov 21, 2024 9:01:55 GMT 1, I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. Please post examples of what you think is anti-Israel. I took a quick scroll through and didn’t see anything of note. How about ‘Carpet Bombing (made by Israel)’? If Hamas gave back the hostages this would stop.
I get that MSF are neutral and just want to help people but some of the art shown is very anti Israel. There are very much two sides in this conflict. Please post examples of what you think is anti-Israel. I took a quick scroll through and didn’t see anything of note. How about ‘Carpet Bombing (made by Israel)’? If Hamas gave back the hostages this would stop.
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by its all about me on Nov 21, 2024 13:39:39 GMT 1, There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops. I don't believe that for a moment.
Netanyahu shows no interest in bringing the hostages home. He has effectively destroyed the ability of Hamas to wage war on Israel and has killed their leader. And yet, the killing continues...
Israelis killed: Approx 1,500
Palestinians killed: Approx 45,000
There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops. I don't believe that for a moment. Netanyahu shows no interest in bringing the hostages home. He has effectively destroyed the ability of Hamas to wage war on Israel and has killed their leader. And yet, the killing continues... Israelis killed: Approx 1,500 Palestinians killed: Approx 45,000
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by mojo on Nov 21, 2024 13:57:35 GMT 1, There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops. I don't believe that for a moment. Netanyahu shows no interest in bringing the hostages home. He has effectively destroyed the ability of Hamas to wage war on Israel and has killed their leader. And yet, the killing continues... Israelis killed: Approx 1,500 Palestinians killed: Approx 45,000 link - ICC issues arrest warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant and Mohamed Deif over alleged war crimes
|
|
bsimkin
New Member
🗨️ 432
👍🏻 397
April 2006
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by bsimkin on Nov 21, 2024 14:39:44 GMT 1, There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops. I don't believe that for a moment. Netanyahu shows no interest in bringing the hostages home. He has effectively destroyed the ability of Hamas to wage war on Israel and has killed their leader. And yet, the killing continues... Israelis killed: Approx 1,500 Palestinians killed: Approx 45,000 Doesn’t believe that for a minute but believes Hamas reported “death toll” of 45,000. let me ask you, who do you “believe” just held up and stole 90 aid trucks into Gaza? UNRWA won’t say Hamas. Was it the boogeyman? You hamasturbators are all the same. Believe anyone but the Jews
There are still 100 israeli hostages in gaza. Genocide? Watch thebpopulation growth in gaza. Free the hostages and the war stops. I don't believe that for a moment. Netanyahu shows no interest in bringing the hostages home. He has effectively destroyed the ability of Hamas to wage war on Israel and has killed their leader. And yet, the killing continues... Israelis killed: Approx 1,500 Palestinians killed: Approx 45,000 Doesn’t believe that for a minute but believes Hamas reported “death toll” of 45,000. let me ask you, who do you “believe” just held up and stole 90 aid trucks into Gaza? UNRWA won’t say Hamas. Was it the boogeyman? You hamasturbators are all the same. Believe anyone but the Jews
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
🗨️ 2,188
👍🏻 3,714
May 2014
|
|
|
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by Happy Shopper on Nov 21, 2024 15:53:16 GMT 1, I don't believe that for a moment. Netanyahu shows no interest in bringing the hostages home. He has effectively destroyed the ability of Hamas to wage war on Israel and has killed their leader. And yet, the killing continues... Israelis killed: Approx 1,500 Palestinians killed: Approx 45,000 Doesn’t believe that for a minute but believes Hamas reported “death toll” of 45,000. let me ask you, who do you “believe” just held up and stole 90 aid trucks into Gaza? UNRWA won’t say Hamas. Was it the boogeyman? You hamasturbators are all the same. Believe anyone but the Jews Would you condone that amount of destruction of a European city, just to target a terrorist organisation? It's racism. You don't have to "believe" anything. Just look at the satellite images of Gaza, before and after, and the video footage widely available. If only 45000 people have been killed it would be a miracle. Demonisation of the people calling this out won't help you either.
I don't believe that for a moment. Netanyahu shows no interest in bringing the hostages home. He has effectively destroyed the ability of Hamas to wage war on Israel and has killed their leader. And yet, the killing continues... Israelis killed: Approx 1,500 Palestinians killed: Approx 45,000 Doesn’t believe that for a minute but believes Hamas reported “death toll” of 45,000. let me ask you, who do you “believe” just held up and stole 90 aid trucks into Gaza? UNRWA won’t say Hamas. Was it the boogeyman? You hamasturbators are all the same. Believe anyone but the Jews Would you condone that amount of destruction of a European city, just to target a terrorist organisation? It's racism. You don't have to "believe" anything. Just look at the satellite images of Gaza, before and after, and the video footage widely available. If only 45000 people have been killed it would be a miracle. Demonisation of the people calling this out won't help you either.
|
|
fm1975
Junior Member
🗨️ 1,196
👍🏻 342
February 2018
|
Artist Fundraiser for MSF/ Palestine 18 Nov - 1 Dec 2024, by fm1975 on Nov 21, 2024 16:30:19 GMT 1, Doesn’t believe that for a minute but believes Hamas reported “death toll” of 45,000. let me ask you, who do you “believe” just held up and stole 90 aid trucks into Gaza? UNRWA won’t say Hamas. Was it the boogeyman? You hamasturbators are all the same. Believe anyone but the Jews Would you condone that amount of destruction of a European city, just to target a terrorist organisation? It's racism. You don't have to "believe" anything. Just look at the satellite images of Gaza, before and after, and the video footage widely available. If only 45000 people have been killed it would be a miracle. Demonisation of the people calling this out won't help you either. boogeymans dont like satellite images, they prefer feeding their parallel zionism reality
Doesn’t believe that for a minute but believes Hamas reported “death toll” of 45,000. let me ask you, who do you “believe” just held up and stole 90 aid trucks into Gaza? UNRWA won’t say Hamas. Was it the boogeyman? You hamasturbators are all the same. Believe anyone but the Jews Would you condone that amount of destruction of a European city, just to target a terrorist organisation? It's racism. You don't have to "believe" anything. Just look at the satellite images of Gaza, before and after, and the video footage widely available. If only 45000 people have been killed it would be a miracle. Demonisation of the people calling this out won't help you either. boogeymans dont like satellite images, they prefer feeding their parallel zionism reality
|
|