[keyser]

I used to buy quite a bit from Heni and be lucky with plenty of lotteries etc. Made the mistake of cancelling my Empresses order when there was a huge delay on them and the NFT kids were driving the price down and haven't been lucky since! Convinced I've been added to a naughty list with all the flippers selling at auction too quickly.

[Winter]

Good to see people still buying editions in this market

[Thank You]

Apr 30, 2024 16:02:30 GMT 1 keyser said:

I used to buy quite a bit from Heni and be lucky with plenty of lotteries etc. Made the mistake of cancelling my Empresses order when there was a huge delay on them and the NFT kids were driving the price down and haven't been lucky since! Convinced I've been added to a naughty list with all the flippers selling at auction too quickly.

I wouldn’t think they have a naughty list for Hirst flippers. Hirst isn’t against flipping which is why he doesn’t have any resell conditions. 

[din]

Where did you get the application numbers from Riotcop? That information hasn't been released yet.

[Acme Thunderer]

Apr 30, 2024 16:27:55 GMT 1 din said:

Where did you get the application numbers from Riotcop? That information hasn't been released yet.

I just done this search on Heni Discord.



The 4196 figure is probably made up. Even if true, there will be multiple applications from the same person / gallery (and their distant relatives / pets etc) and they would count an application for all 4 as four applications.

For those that missed out, they might hear again within 48 hours - but I would drop Heni an email to say you want to buy if there is a cancellation. 🙌

[Dice]

Apr 30, 2024 16:02:30 GMT 1 keyser said:

I used to buy quite a bit from Heni and be lucky with plenty of lotteries etc. Made the mistake of cancelling my Empresses order when there was a huge delay on them and the NFT kids were driving the price down and haven't been lucky since! Convinced I've been added to a naughty list with all the flippers selling at auction too quickly.

Ha that’s exactly what I did too and now I’ve been blacklisted! A good friend of mine who I introduced to HENI wins every single time. But then he never cancelled an order 🫤

[Riotcops]

Apr 30, 2024 17:31:56 GMT 1 High Contrast said:

Apr 30, 2024 16:27:55 GMT 1 din said:

Where did you get the application numbers from Riotcop? That information hasn't been released yet.

It’s Riotcop, take what he says with a pinch of salt, probably the biggest flipper on here. Not a great one at that

I did it to prove a point in response to someone saying there was no applicants. To prove anyone can make unsubstantiated and speculative posts to sway opinions. Don't believe everything you read on a forum without basis or a source referenced.

That said, it's the first time I've posted anything remotely satirical and have consistently posted relevant info and assisted numerous forum members. Apologies if this affected anyone.

I believe I've had 3 sales threads on here since joining. Majority being releases from 2-3+ years ago. I've bought way more on here than I've sold. Your post is further proof to not believe everything you read on here.

[artlike]

Apr 30, 2024 16:00:46 GMT 1 Londown 01 said:

I'll stop. Great if you're happy. But people on here mostly WANT TO buy something, WANT TO like something. They see the big name, see the profits that were made with the Virtues, need something that is easy on the eyes and identifiable by the uneducated visitor.

I'm sure even Hirst himself thinks it's all a big joke.

I'm sure he thinks you are a big joke

[artlike]

Apr 30, 2024 17:49:17 GMT 1 Riotcops said:

Apr 30, 2024 17:31:56 GMT 1 High Contrast said:

It’s Riotcop, take what he says with a pinch of salt, probably the biggest flipper on here. Not a great one at that

I did it to prove a point in response to someone saying there was no applicants. To prove anyone can make unsubstantiated and speculative posts to sway opinions. Don't believe everything you read on a forum without basis or a source referenced.

That said, it's the first time I've posted anything remotely satirical and have consistently posted relevant info and assisted numerous forum members. Apologies if this affected anyone.

I believe I've had 3 sales threads on here since joining. Majority being releases from 2-3+ years ago. I've bought way more on here than I've sold. Your post is further proof to not believe everything you read on here.

Yeah fair game. 

If I was a betting man I would wager the applicants were considerably higher than 4200

[artlike]

Apr 30, 2024 16:36:55 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

Apr 30, 2024 16:27:55 GMT 1 din said:

Where did you get the application numbers from Riotcop? That information hasn't been released yet.

I just done this search on Heni Discord.



The 4196 figure is probably made up. Even if true, there will be multiple applications from the same person / gallery (and their distant relatives / pets etc) and they would count an application for all 4 as four applications.

For those that missed out, they might hear again within 48 hours - but I would drop Heni an email to say you want to buy if there is a cancellation. 🙌

But the money is taken out immediately if successful and given the value of these I would expect people lucky enough to get 2 will keep to sell on. 

[Wanchope]

If you have the money in the account for them to take!

[nobokov]

Apr 30, 2024 16:00:46 GMT 1 Londown 01 said:

I'll stop. Great if you're happy. But people on here mostly WANT TO buy something, WANT TO like something. They see the big name, see the profits that were made with the Virtues, need something that is easy on the eyes and identifiable by the uneducated visitor.

I'm sure even Hirst himself thinks it's all a big joke.

I think people like having a connection to celebrities. Wow, my favorite <blank> actually touched this piece of paper when he signed it!  People like that sort of thing.

Screenprint, giclee, or dibond, it's all unimpressive in person if you haven't been drinking the kool-aid.

[damo]

Apr 30, 2024 19:07:01 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Apr 30, 2024 16:00:46 GMT 1 Londown 01 said:

I'll stop. Great if you're happy. But people on here mostly WANT TO buy something, WANT TO like something. They see the big name, see the profits that were made with the Virtues, need something that is easy on the eyes and identifiable by the uneducated visitor.

I'm sure even Hirst himself thinks it's all a big joke.

I think people like having a connection to celebrities. Wow, my favorite <blank> actually touched this piece of paper when he signed it!  People like that sort of thing.

Screenprint, giclee, or dibond, it's all unimpressive in person if you haven't been drinking the kool-aid.

I think people just like spouting shit on here, re their opinions. If I post this maybe ‘blank’ will like it and I’ll feel clever. Keyboard warriors like that sort of thing. 

Most people accept that different people like different things, and it’s all good, if you haven’t been drinking the UAA kool-aid. 

[nobokov]

Apr 30, 2024 22:34:44 GMT 1 damo said:

Apr 30, 2024 19:07:01 GMT 1 nobokov said:

I think people like having a connection to celebrities. Wow, my favorite <blank> actually touched this piece of paper when he signed it!  People like that sort of thing.

Screenprint, giclee, or dibond, it's all unimpressive in person if you haven't been drinking the kool-aid.

I think people just like spouting shit on here, re their opinions. If I post this maybe ‘blank’ will like it and I’ll feel clever. Keyboard warriors like that sort of thing. 

Most people accept that different people like different things, and it’s all good, if you haven’t been drinking the UAA kool-aid. 

Yes, people like different things. You gotta admit though, this art collecting thing is kind of ridiculous right? I mean I'm addicted as well, but Jesus, what we pay for unimpressive crap is just nuts. 

Ask anyone in the street who doesn't collect art, what you or I just paid for <Insert Art Object here> and what we just got, and they'll think we're insane and/or stupid. 

So we don't look as crazy, we then have to follow-up by saying, "well you can immediately sell this for 3x as much."

Collecting is a serious addiction. 

[damo]

Apr 30, 2024 23:10:01 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Apr 30, 2024 22:34:44 GMT 1 damo said:

I think people just like spouting shit on here, re their opinions. If I post this maybe ‘blank’ will like it and I’ll feel clever. Keyboard warriors like that sort of thing. 

Most people accept that different people like different things, and it’s all good, if you haven’t been drinking the UAA kool-aid. 

Yes, people like different things. You gotta admit though, this art collecting thing is kind of ridiculous right? I mean I'm addicted as well, but Jesus, what we pay for unimpressive crap is just nuts. 

Ask anyone in the street who doesn't collect art, what you or I just paid for <Insert Art Object here> and what we just got, and they'll think we're insane and/or stupid. 

So we don't look as crazy, we then have to follow-up by saying, "well you can immediately sell this for 3x as much."

Collecting is a serious addiction. 

Tbh I just buy what I want to hang on my wall and look at. I also don’t have friends that ask what it cost, or probably care. And if they did my personal response would not be ‘it’s worth x times’ but thats just me. And yes it’s an addiction for many of us, not really the point though is it. You were making a judgement on why people are buying a piece, based on your opinion, dressed up as an interesting perspective (it wasn’t, but I presume you thought it was). Each to their own, I’m primarily a lurker here and add little value so it was rude of me to get involved in your conversation tbh, just find the constant snidey comments a bit tiring. Just an opinion though. 

[nobokov]

Apr 30, 2024 23:28:02 GMT 1 damo said:

Apr 30, 2024 23:10:01 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Yes, people like different things. You gotta admit though, this art collecting thing is kind of ridiculous right? I mean I'm addicted as well, but Jesus, what we pay for unimpressive crap is just nuts. 

Ask anyone in the street who doesn't collect art, what you or I just paid for <Insert Art Object here> and what we just got, and they'll think we're insane and/or stupid. 

So we don't look as crazy, we then have to follow-up by saying, "well you can immediately sell this for 3x as much."

Collecting is a serious addiction. 

Tbh I just buy what I want to hang on my wall and look at. I also don’t have friends that ask what it cost, or probably care. And if they did my personal response would not be ‘it’s worth x times’ but thats just me. And yes it’s an addiction for many of us, not really the point though is it. You were making a judgement on why people are buying a piece, based on your opinion, dressed up as an interesting perspective (it wasn’t, but I presume you thought it was). Each to their own, I’m primarily a lurker here and add little value so it was rude of me to get involved in your conversation tbh, just find the constant snidey comments a bit tiring. Just an opinion though. 

That's good. I also buy what I like to look at, but remember years ago when I was caught up in the UAA hype machine chasing things without actually really liking what bought and slowly figuring out that many here are just trying to boost their own eBay sales by creating a market. 

You're right that my comments are often snide. A lot of the times, it's just to have a fun time trying to counter the hype. I just assume that most of the posts here aren't very genuine. Apologies if you were offended enough to feel the need to give your own opinion. But I do welcome you to the conversation.

To me it's baffling why people spend large amounts on autographed printouts from famous artists, when prints are never even close to how great an original artwork can be. That money can be spent to buy a good sized painting from artists who may be far more talented than the celebrity artist. Especially with these Hirst editions of late, anyone here can go to an art supply store and produce the same, if not better work for $100. And they would have the satisfaction of creating something rather than just consuming.

So why do people spend $8000 on a printout? Is it for the minute connection to the artist? 

You would think the only rational motivation that could possibly drive someone to purchase Hirst editions would be the potential resale, because no one here would buy this same edition at the same price, if it was released by a guy off the street.

Or is it motivated by the thrill of the hunt? The addiction of securing a release and the adrenaline rush from that.

I'm really curious to know what motivates everyone. Is it just something nice to look at before the eventual sale?

[Horatio Nelson]

May 1, 2024 3:19:01 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Apr 30, 2024 23:28:02 GMT 1 damo said:

Tbh I just buy what I want to hang on my wall and look at. I also don’t have friends that ask what it cost, or probably care. And if they did my personal response would not be ‘it’s worth x times’ but thats just me. And yes it’s an addiction for many of us, not really the point though is it. You were making a judgement on why people are buying a piece, based on your opinion, dressed up as an interesting perspective (it wasn’t, but I presume you thought it was). Each to their own, I’m primarily a lurker here and add little value so it was rude of me to get involved in your conversation tbh, just find the constant snidey comments a bit tiring. Just an opinion though. 

That's good. I also buy what I like to look at, but remember years ago when I was caught up in the UAA hype machine chasing things without actually really liking what bought and slowly figuring out that many here are just trying to boost their own eBay sales by creating a market. 

You're right that my comments are often snide. A lot of the times, it's just to have a fun time trying to counter the hype. I just assume that most of the posts here aren't very genuine. Apologies if you were offended enough to feel the need to give your own opinion. But I do welcome you to the conversation.

To me it's baffling why people spend large amounts on autographed printouts from famous artists, when prints are never even close to how great an original artwork can be. That money can be spent to buy a good sized painting from artists who may be far more talented than the celebrity artist. Especially with these Hirst editions of late, anyone here can go to an art supply store and produce the same, if not better work for $100. And they would have the satisfaction of creating something rather than just consuming.

So why do people spend $8000 on a printout? Is it for the minute connection to the artist? 

You would think the only rational motivation that could possibly drive someone to purchase Hirst editions would be the potential resale, because no one here would buy this same edition at the same price, if it was released by a guy off the street.

Or is it motivated by the thrill of the hunt? The addiction of securing a release and the adrenaline rush from that.

I'm really curious to know what motivates everyone. Is it just something nice to look at before the eventual sale?

I’ve always been baffled why people buy autographed print-outs instead of the original large format blossom paintings, which can be sourced from White Cube / Gagosian or at auction for as little as £1m.

[crog1]

I was lucky enough to be allocated Raphael, which I am shamelessly flipping, please get in touch if you haven’t been allocated one and would be interested in purchasing. Collection can be as soon as it’s delivered.

[artlike]

Ahhhh, the integrity of the forum...

[crog1]

It’s no different to what a gallery does…

[pamplemousse]

Apr 30, 2024 15:28:21 GMT 1 Londown 01 said:

Apr 30, 2024 15:24:41 GMT 1 pamplemousse said:

No I bought a limited edition reproduction of an original in a format that best suits the work by the biggest artist in the world and signed on the front in pencil.

Fine if you think so! 

But how is that format the best when the originals are a completely different format? 

Reproduction means a copy of something.
Format means the shape, size, and general makeup (as of something printed).

I.e a giclee is the best format for an edition of these paintings.

[Richy Rich]

May 1, 2024 8:08:27 GMT 1 crog1 said:

It’s no different to what a gallery does…

crog1 would be a terrible name for a gallery though....

[its all about me]

May 1, 2024 7:47:58 GMT 1 crog1 said:

I was lucky enough to be allocated Raphael, which I am shamelessly flipping, please get in touch if you haven’t been allocated one and would be interested in purchasing. Collection can be as soon as it’s delivered.

I find it strangely satisfying when people live down to your already low expectations.  

[Sixty Bells]

May 1, 2024 7:47:58 GMT 1 crog1 said:

I was lucky enough to be allocated Raphael, which I am shamelessly flipping, please get in touch if you haven’t been allocated one and would be interested in purchasing. Collection can be as soon as it’s delivered.

Cool! Let us know how much you get for it. This will be fun!

[Georgie Poppit]

May 1, 2024 8:08:27 GMT 1 crog1 said:

It’s no different to what a gallery does…

In most cases galleries provide a service. In most cases galleries pay tax etc

[Acme Thunderer]

May 1, 2024 13:53:15 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

May 1, 2024 8:08:27 GMT 1 crog1 said:

It’s no different to what a gallery does…

In most cases galleries provide a service. In most cases galleries pay tax etc

Also, not forgetting that galleries like to wait for a delivery before selling. 😊

[nobokov]

May 1, 2024 7:27:39 GMT 1 Horatio Nelson said:

May 1, 2024 3:19:01 GMT 1 nobokov said:

That's good. I also buy what I like to look at, but remember years ago when I was caught up in the UAA hype machine chasing things without actually really liking what bought and slowly figuring out that many here are just trying to boost their own eBay sales by creating a market. 

You're right that my comments are often snide. A lot of the times, it's just to have a fun time trying to counter the hype. I just assume that most of the posts here aren't very genuine. Apologies if you were offended enough to feel the need to give your own opinion. But I do welcome you to the conversation.

To me it's baffling why people spend large amounts on autographed printouts from famous artists, when prints are never even close to how great an original artwork can be. That money can be spent to buy a good sized painting from artists who may be far more talented than the celebrity artist. Especially with these Hirst editions of late, anyone here can go to an art supply store and produce the same, if not better work for $100. And they would have the satisfaction of creating something rather than just consuming.

So why do people spend $8000 on a printout? Is it for the minute connection to the artist? 

You would think the only rational motivation that could possibly drive someone to purchase Hirst editions would be the potential resale, because no one here would buy this same edition at the same price, if it was released by a guy off the street.

Or is it motivated by the thrill of the hunt? The addiction of securing a release and the adrenaline rush from that.

I'm really curious to know what motivates everyone. Is it just something nice to look at before the eventual sale?

I’ve always been baffled why people buy autographed print-outs instead of the original large format blossom paintings, which can be sourced from White Cube / Gagosian or at auction for as little as £1m.

But I bet you can paint the same thing yourself and bring it to one of his openings. I bet he'd sign it if you asked nicely.

[Poster Bob]

May 1, 2024 7:47:58 GMT 1 crog1 said:

I was lucky enough to be allocated Raphael, which I am shamelessly flipping, please get in touch if you haven’t been allocated one and would be interested in purchasing. Collection can be as soon as it’s delivered.

Now if they’re trying to make money on top of you I’ll fall over laughing:

www.newarteditions.com/private-sales-damien-hirst-the-archangels-raphael/

[orchid]

May 1, 2024 7:47:58 GMT 1 crog1 said:

I was lucky enough to be allocated Raphael, which I am shamelessly flipping, please get in touch if you haven’t been allocated one and would be interested in purchasing. Collection can be as soon as it’s delivered.

Collection of your Raphael from Hackney, George?

[orchid]

Surprised NAE have listed an item not delivered and so soon, they tend to want to main publisher relationships. Times must be hard.