[Londown 01]

one of the greatest things about the internet is that the biggest nonsense gets the most attention

[Deleted]

Dec 25, 2023 16:53:47 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Looks like the 2 guys in the photos I posted must have been removing it the night before , then the artwork went up, it got "stolen" and this guy replaced it the same day in the evening.
Strange a council worker would put an old sign from another location up without even removing the stickers. And how did he get it off the other 2 guys ? Strange .

vm.tiktok.com/ZGeFCBN6x/

  If you think about it logically. The artist posted the location of a new work on a road sign, it got taken shortly after. The main threat will come from the council as they'll want their Banksy back. If the sign gets replaced quickly the councils case for prosecution will be pretty flimsy. The council don't own the Banksy so can't prosecute for theft of it. If the guy says it was a PR stunt the police will have to get confirmation from B to say otherwise and he would likely get pulled into the lawsuit, they don't want that. 
My best guess is the artist is much more concerned about the atrocities going on in Palestine than what happened to the street sign after the fact. 

[trickledown]

Dec 25, 2023 17:10:38 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 25, 2023 16:57:38 GMT 1 trickledown said:

What you don't seem to understand, no matter how many times people explain it in clear terms to you or your husband is that the Sotheby's publicity stunt was just a publicity stunt. One that was within boundaries of the Law. You have been coming on here for around 5 years now constantly mouthing off about 'fraud and breaking the law' when we have already established that no fraud took place and no laws were broken. 

As for the Stop sign, it's evident that the person who took it has no relationship to B in any capacity. It looks like that sign was put up as 'bait' for someone to take it, the suspect has clearly stolen the sign, had his face plastered all over the newspapers, evening news and internet only to realise that the police are probably going to knock at his door. What's happened here is that the suspect has clearly got greedy, taken the stop sign, realised that he's been played and decided to try and work his way out of it by stealing another road sign and putting it back in the location of the original sign with the overused excuse of 'it's just a prank bro' 'I'm part of team banksy' 

As for Sotheby's ... LOL! 

These are some other photos taken in the evening of the same day the artwork was "stolen". So it's clear the two guys in the other photos are taking the sign down the night before. 

No you are completely wrong, but I'm so glad you uploaded these photographs and brought them to my attention as this proves my theory. This 'Banksy sighting' is a total forgery created by the suspect who stole the Stop sign. 


Evidence that supports this claim is set out below. 

Google Street View capture from June 2022:


Make note of the damage circled in white


Now, the stop sign with drones attached, note that the marks present on the sign from June 2022 are present on the finished stop sign



This conclusively proves that the original stop sign was never taken down. Even more interesting it proves that the 'banksy sighting' video widely circulating on Tiktok is an enormous fabrication, most likely created by the suspect who took the stop sign to spread misinformation and support his case that he is affiliated with B. 


Also note that the 'Banksy sighting' video on TikTok was not captured on a dashcam but rather a mobile phone. Who in their right mind drives round Peckham filming everyone wearing day glow vests for no reason... Hat's off to them though, this is probably the best 'fake banksy sighting' video ever created. They clearly put in a lot of effort but didn't quite think it through. 

www.tiktok.com/@linh.fitness/video/7315559554673020192

[its all about me]

Dec 25, 2023 15:30:51 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

Dec 25, 2023 13:14:10 GMT 1 its all about me said:

Are you serious?!  I was thinking the exact opposite. This is lazy and simply regurgitating old ideas from years ago.  It's also rather facile. "Stop bombing people". Yeah, how profound.

I seems Banksy has run out of ideas.  And wit.   

You also complained when he made A Great British Spraycation, Banksy's 7 Works for Ukraine, Fragile for Charity, Banksy UkPoste Ukraine, Morning is Broken, Cut&Run Glasgow and Banksy Stop Drone.

I'd say you've had a lot to complain about in the last year. Artist Banksy is quite prolific at making you moan every time. 😎

That's simply not true. I never complained about half of those things.  

[Minecrafter]

The story isn't over yet, we will see if charges will be brought and if someone gets sentenced like in Paris.

Banksy knew that people gone to prison for stealing his work before , so why invite it to happen again ?
It'll be interesting to watch how this plays out, that's for sure.

[Deleted]

Dec 25, 2023 18:17:47 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

The story isn't over yet, we will see if charges will be brought and if someone gets sentenced like in Paris.

Banksy knew that people gone to prison for stealing his work before , so why invite it to happen again ?
It'll be interesting to watch how this plays out, that's for sure.

I doubt he was inviting people to steal his work, the fact it was easily removed was just a consequence of the placement/location. He can't be held responsible for other people's choices.

[Minecrafter]

Dec 25, 2023 18:41:44 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

Dec 25, 2023 18:17:47 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

The story isn't over yet, we will see if charges will be brought and if someone gets sentenced like in Paris.

Banksy knew that people gone to prison for stealing his work before , so why invite it to happen again ?
It'll be interesting to watch how this plays out, that's for sure.

I doubt he was inviting people to steal his work, the fact it was easily removed was just a consequence of the placement/location. He can't be held responsible for other people's choices.

But he invited people to steal from GUESS - that's why Banksy is being sued. So he obviously promotes theft. To think a road sign wouldn't get nicked is a bit naive, isn't it ? 

[Londown 01]

Dec 25, 2023 20:29:30 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 25, 2023 18:41:44 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

To think a road sign wouldn't get nicked is a bit naive, isn't it ? 

Please STOP

[artdelight]

cardboard sticker on the sign

[LJCal]

Dec 25, 2023 20:29:30 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 25, 2023 18:41:44 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

I doubt he was inviting people to steal his work, the fact it was easily removed was just a consequence of the placement/location. He can't be held responsible for other people's choices.

But he invited people to steal from GUESS - that's why Banksy is being sued. So he obviously promotes theft. To think a road sign wouldn't get nicked is a bit naive, isn't it ? 

Surely you must understand by now that your daily crusade to damage Banksy’s market/image/standing is falling on deaf ears. You just come across as someone with a grudge or score to settle which gives you very little credibility. So I think it’s fair to say your approach isn’t working. The worst thing about this is that it’s almost certainly not having a positive impact on your life, these types of grudges and resentments are seldom healthy. Using up so much of one’s time and energy on such a negative pursuit is a recipe for anxiety and depression. Banksy probably doesn’t even know you exist, and if he does probably gives zero fucks about what you’re saying, meaning the only loser here is you. My advice for your own sake is to let this go and focus your attention on more positive pursuits, build something as opposed to trying to break something. 

[Lroy]

Dec 25, 2023 18:17:47 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

The story isn't over yet, we will see if charges will be brought and if someone gets sentenced like in Paris.

Banksy knew that people gone to prison for stealing his work before , so why invite it to happen again ?
It'll be interesting to watch how this plays out, that's for sure.

There are absolutely no comparisons with the Bataclan ‘s door stolen in Paris and this sign road. It’s a bit indecent. This door was the symbol ( and an hommage to the victims) of the terrible attack that has been in Paris, and it was a part of the building ( Le Bataclan already made a claim to the police ). It was an international robbery, as a mafia, with a crew of 7  persons that has been arrested : the door traveled in Italy and were found there.
ok, you will say that the sign road was against the bombing in Gaza, but it was less obvious ( even if it is ) for the street people, that only saw a Stop, only art collectors, thieves fans of  Banksy whatever the reason ( even to make attention as he said in front of the people filming ) etc .., The story is as simple as that. Why to be most of the time a complotiste ( don’t know the name in English) when it’s about Banksy ? 

[Minecrafter]

Dec 26, 2023 6:01:12 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Dec 25, 2023 20:29:30 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

But he invited people to steal from GUESS - that's why Banksy is being sued. So he obviously promotes theft. To think a road sign wouldn't get nicked is a bit naive, isn't it ? 

Surely you must understand by now that your daily crusade to damage Banksy’s market/image/standing is falling on deaf ears. You just come across as someone with a grudge or score to settle which gives you very little credibility. So I think it’s fair to say your approach isn’t working. The worst thing about this is that it’s almost certainly not having a positive impact on your life, these types of grudges and resentments are seldom healthy. Using up so much of one’s time and energy on such a negative pursuit is a recipe for anxiety and depression. Banksy probably doesn’t even know you exist, and if he does probably gives zero fucks about what you’re saying, meaning the only loser here is you. My advice for your own sake is to let this go and focus your attention on more positive pursuits, build something as opposed to trying to break something. 

Listen, I've seen myself what team Banksy is doing to rival artists, I've seen what they've done to surpress my husband's career and what toll that took on him. 
I've seen their methods , their manipulations and how approaching them in a normal manor didn't help. How they close the doors on him. For example in 2016 they made a call to the council to shut down the fundings for the Tropicana event, he was meant to hold that event with zero budget. This is just one in a long long list - and listing it all for people who are investors in Banksy and only have their own money in mind - won't have any impact. 

So tell me, how am I supposed to "shut up" and let it go ?  You're having a laugh.

To shut up would mean give up and have my husband stuck in a position where he can't move on with his career due to team Banksy's manipulations. And they do it since the 2012 "paint the escape" rat. A move he will forever regret. 

Not only have I seen all this with my own eyes, not only did my husband know it, no, it all got confirmed by someone from inside, someone from Banksy's team. And no, I'm not gonna name that person. 

It's something THEY started and as my husband knew it'll be nasty and will take another toll on his career, he waited over 8 years to call them out. They bullied him badly and surely other artists experience the same , but are afraid to speak out. 

So whenever any fraud is mentioned in this forum (because why point out a fraud on eBay and not the one in Sotheby's) or when team Banksy pull another "stunt", I'll be there. And it's my right to be in this forum - just as it's yours. 

[lukas01]

Dec 26, 2023 9:30:04 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 26, 2023 6:01:12 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Surely you must understand by now that your daily crusade to damage Banksy’s market/image/standing is falling on deaf ears. You just come across as someone with a grudge or score to settle which gives you very little credibility. So I think it’s fair to say your approach isn’t working. The worst thing about this is that it’s almost certainly not having a positive impact on your life, these types of grudges and resentments are seldom healthy. Using up so much of one’s time and energy on such a negative pursuit is a recipe for anxiety and depression. Banksy probably doesn’t even know you exist, and if he does probably gives zero fucks about what you’re saying, meaning the only loser here is you. My advice for your own sake is to let this go and focus your attention on more positive pursuits, build something as opposed to trying to break something. 

Listen, I've seen myself what team Banksy is doing to rival artists, I've seen what they've done to surpress my husband's career and what toll that took on him. 
I've seen their methods , their manipulations and how approaching them in a normal manor didn't help. How they close the doors on him. For example in 2016 they made a call to the council to shut down the fundings for the Tropicana event, he was meant to hold that event with zero budget. This is just one in a long long list - and listing it all for people who are investors in Banksy and only have their own money in mind - won't have any impact. 

So tell me, how am I supposed to "shut up" and let it go ?  You're having a laugh.

To shut up would mean give up and have my husband stuck in a position where he can't move on with his career due to team Banksy's manipulations. And they do it since the 2012 "paint the escape" rat. A move he will forever regret. 

Not only have I seen all this with my own eyes, not only did my husband know it, no, it all got confirmed by someone from inside, someone from Banksy's team. And no, I'm not gonna name that person. 

It's something THEY started and as my husband knew it'll be nasty and will take another toll on his career, he waited over 8 years to call them out. They bullied him badly and surely other artists experience the same , but are afraid to speak out. 

So whenever any fraud is mentioned in this forum (because why point out a fraud on eBay and not the one in Sotheby's) or when team Banksy pull another "stunt", I'll be there. And it's my right to be in this forum - just as it's yours. 

Careers are made with one's ability and what one transmits. I know your husband JPS through BANKSY. Banksy's or your husband's stunts are part of an artistic movement called STREET ART.
If in 100 years people talk about Street Art it will be for what it was able to convey between the years 2000 and 2035. Everything else is a question of interpretations and personal problems that honestly don't interest anyone. 😎

[Minecrafter]

Dec 26, 2023 9:42:14 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

Dec 26, 2023 9:30:04 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Listen, I've seen myself what team Banksy is doing to rival artists, I've seen what they've done to surpress my husband's career and what toll that took on him. 
I've seen their methods , their manipulations and how approaching them in a normal manor didn't help. How they close the doors on him. For example in 2016 they made a call to the council to shut down the fundings for the Tropicana event, he was meant to hold that event with zero budget. This is just one in a long long list - and listing it all for people who are investors in Banksy and only have their own money in mind - won't have any impact. 

So tell me, how am I supposed to "shut up" and let it go ?  You're having a laugh.

To shut up would mean give up and have my husband stuck in a position where he can't move on with his career due to team Banksy's manipulations. And they do it since the 2012 "paint the escape" rat. A move he will forever regret. 

Not only have I seen all this with my own eyes, not only did my husband know it, no, it all got confirmed by someone from inside, someone from Banksy's team. And no, I'm not gonna name that person. 

It's something THEY started and as my husband knew it'll be nasty and will take another toll on his career, he waited over 8 years to call them out. They bullied him badly and surely other artists experience the same , but are afraid to speak out. 

So whenever any fraud is mentioned in this forum (because why point out a fraud on eBay and not the one in Sotheby's) or when team Banksy pull another "stunt", I'll be there. And it's my right to be in this forum - just as it's yours. 

Careers are made with one's ability and what one transmits. I know your husband JPS through BANKSY. Banksy's or your husband's stunts are part of an artistic movement called STREET ART.
If in 100 years people talk about Street Art it will be for what it was able to convey between the years 2000 and 2035. Everything else is a question of interpretations and personal problems that honestly don't interest anyone. 😎

We know noone cares about our private reasons, but I had to explain to LJCal why I can't just quit exposing Banksy. 

The fraud though is not a private problem and the whole world should know about it. I mean you can try to debunk it , but I doubt you'll be successful. Well, I KNOW you won't be. 

[lukas01]

I just don't care. Let me appreciate the works of JPS and those of BANKSY and all the others. The rest is just a waste of time.

[Deleted]

Dec 26, 2023 9:30:04 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 26, 2023 6:01:12 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Surely you must understand by now that your daily crusade to damage Banksy’s market/image/standing is falling on deaf ears. You just come across as someone with a grudge or score to settle which gives you very little credibility. So I think it’s fair to say your approach isn’t working. The worst thing about this is that it’s almost certainly not having a positive impact on your life, these types of grudges and resentments are seldom healthy. Using up so much of one’s time and energy on such a negative pursuit is a recipe for anxiety and depression. Banksy probably doesn’t even know you exist, and if he does probably gives zero fucks about what you’re saying, meaning the only loser here is you. My advice for your own sake is to let this go and focus your attention on more positive pursuits, build something as opposed to trying to break something. 

Listen, I've seen myself what team Banksy is doing to rival artists, I've seen what they've done to surpress my husband's career and what toll that took on him. 
I've seen their methods , their manipulations and how approaching them in a normal manor didn't help. How they close the doors on him. For example in 2016 they made a call to the council to shut down the fundings for the Tropicana event, he was meant to hold that event with zero budget. This is just one in a long long list - and listing it all for people who are investors in Banksy and only have their own money in mind - won't have any impact. 

So tell me, how am I supposed to "shut up" and let it go ?  You're having a laugh.

To shut up would mean give up and have my husband stuck in a position where he can't move on with his career due to team Banksy's manipulations. And they do it since the 2012 "paint the escape" rat. A move he will forever regret. 

Not only have I seen all this with my own eyes, not only did my husband know it, no, it all got confirmed by someone from inside, someone from Banksy's team. And no, I'm not gonna name that person. 

It's something THEY started and as my husband knew it'll be nasty and will take another toll on his career, he waited over 8 years to call them out. They bullied him badly and surely other artists experience the same , but are afraid to speak out. 

So whenever any fraud is mentioned in this forum (because why point out a fraud on eBay and not the one in Sotheby's) or when team Banksy pull another "stunt", I'll be there. And it's my right to be in this forum - just as it's yours. 

 Correct me if I'm wrong, after Disma closed down your husband put in for council funding to do a JPS event at the same site? I can see why that wouldn't have sat well with B/PC.

[Minecrafter]

Dec 26, 2023 10:35:29 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

Dec 26, 2023 9:30:04 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Listen, I've seen myself what team Banksy is doing to rival artists, I've seen what they've done to surpress my husband's career and what toll that took on him. 
I've seen their methods , their manipulations and how approaching them in a normal manor didn't help. How they close the doors on him. For example in 2016 they made a call to the council to shut down the fundings for the Tropicana event, he was meant to hold that event with zero budget. This is just one in a long long list - and listing it all for people who are investors in Banksy and only have their own money in mind - won't have any impact. 

So tell me, how am I supposed to "shut up" and let it go ?  You're having a laugh.

To shut up would mean give up and have my husband stuck in a position where he can't move on with his career due to team Banksy's manipulations. And they do it since the 2012 "paint the escape" rat. A move he will forever regret. 

Not only have I seen all this with my own eyes, not only did my husband know it, no, it all got confirmed by someone from inside, someone from Banksy's team. And no, I'm not gonna name that person. 

It's something THEY started and as my husband knew it'll be nasty and will take another toll on his career, he waited over 8 years to call them out. They bullied him badly and surely other artists experience the same , but are afraid to speak out. 

So whenever any fraud is mentioned in this forum (because why point out a fraud on eBay and not the one in Sotheby's) or when team Banksy pull another "stunt", I'll be there. And it's my right to be in this forum - just as it's yours. 

 Correct me if I'm wrong, after Disma closed down your husband put in for council funding to do a JPS event at the same site? I can see why that wouldn't have sat well with B/PC.

I'll correct you, cause you're wrong. 

The council contacted my husband and asked if he can do an art event in the Tropicana and get other artists in. Weston-super-mare is his hometown and he painted there long before Banksy done dismaland. 
When Banksy's team heard of it, they shut the whole opportunity down and it never happened. And that's just one of many many doors closed by Banksy.  

[Deleted]

Dec 26, 2023 10:48:21 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 26, 2023 10:35:29 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

 Correct me if I'm wrong, after Disma closed down your husband put in for council funding to do a JPS event at the same site? I can see why that wouldn't have sat well with B/PC.

I'll correct you, cause you're wrong. 

The council contacted my husband and asked if he can do an art event in the Tropicana and get other artists in. Weston-super-mare is his hometown and he painted there long before Banksy done dismaland. 
When Banksy's team heard of it, they shut the whole opportunity down and it never happened. And that's just one of many many doors closed by Banksy.  

Ok so the council contacted your husband about putting on a show off the back of Dismalands success, I can still see why they wouldnt be comfortable with it. 

[Minecrafter]

Dec 26, 2023 10:58:13 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

Dec 26, 2023 10:48:21 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

I'll correct you, cause you're wrong. 

The council contacted my husband and asked if he can do an art event in the Tropicana and get other artists in. Weston-super-mare is his hometown and he painted there long before Banksy done dismaland. 
When Banksy's team heard of it, they shut the whole opportunity down and it never happened. And that's just one of many many doors closed by Banksy.  

Ok so the council contacted your husband about putting on a show off the back of Dismalands success, I can still see why they wouldnt be comfortable with it. 

Then you should see how JPS wouldn't be comfortable with them committing high level fraud repeatedly. 

So you're saying an artist is not allowed to hold an event because Banksy was there before ? So rebel bear isn't allowed to hold a show in Glasgow now ? Don't be ridiculous. 

That's the most pettiest thing ever. Shows how confident Banksy is in his art. 

[Deleted]

Dec 26, 2023 11:00:21 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 26, 2023 10:58:13 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

Ok so the council contacted your husband about putting on a show off the back of Dismalands success, I can still see why they wouldnt be comfortable with it. 

Then you should see how JPS wouldn't be comfortable with them committing high level fraud repeatedly. 

So you're saying an artist is not allowed to hold an event because Banksy was there before ? So rebel bear isn't allowed to hold a show in Glasgow now ? Don't be ridiculous. 

That's the most pettiest thing ever. Shows how confident Banksy is in his art. 

 I don't see why JPS cares so much about someone else potentially committing fraud, how does it effect yous? Who are the victims? The GWB buyer did well.
I don't think the issue was it was an art show, more likely the type of art and possible perception of links/connections, to JPS for example

[lukas01]

The 3 drones are wonderful!
Who knows what the real message behind this beautiful work of art will be?... But it's fantastic! 😎

[Londown 01]

Dec 26, 2023 11:00:21 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

That's the most pettiest thing ever. Shows how confident Banksy is in his art. 

HOW ABOUT

you create a thread for all your grievances about Banksy but don't derail every thread that is about a work of his?!

[Steph Rat Catcher]

red signs running through my mind .
A street kid gets arrested, gonna do some time

He got out three years from now just to commit more crime

A businessman is caught with 24 kilos

He's out on bail, and out of jail and that's the way it goes,

Happy st steph rat catcher Day .

[hnkpnk]

Dec 26, 2023 9:30:04 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

... my husband stuck in a position where he can't move on with his career due to team Banksy's manipulations. 

The only thing holding your husband JPSs career back is himself. He's very good technically and sometimes a bit funny, but that's it.

Edit: I would have preferred to keep quiet as I prefer to be positive but as you troll every Banksy thread I didn't.

[Minecrafter]

Dec 26, 2023 13:53:04 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

Dec 26, 2023 9:30:04 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

... my husband stuck in a position where he can't move on with his career due to team Banksy's manipulations. 

The only thing holding your husband JPSs career back is himself. He's very good technically and sometimes a bit funny, but that's it.

Edit: I would have preferred to keep quiet as I prefer to be positive but as you troll every Banksy thread I didn't.

Really glad you didn't stay quiet, but who are you ? What makes you so special ? 

And yes, I know that his skills and comedy made team Banksy uncomfortable enough to close every door they could. 

[Minecrafter]

Dec 26, 2023 12:54:20 GMT 1 Londown 01 said:

Dec 26, 2023 11:00:21 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

That's the most pettiest thing ever. Shows how confident Banksy is in his art. 

HOW ABOUT

you create a thread for all your grievances about Banksy but don't derail every thread that is about a work of his?!

Well, everytime a fraud is mentioned in this forum (not just banksy fraud) I'll remind people of the high profile Sotheby's fraud banksy committed and the member here ignore. Either fraud exists, or it doesn't. Same rules for everyone. 

Any people who are trying to sell Banksy whilst knowing about the fraud are not being very nice sales people, they are passing off a problem. 

And all the nasty comments over the past couple of years has made us more determined than ever to one day be publicly proven right. 

[hnkpnk]

Dec 26, 2023 15:51:36 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Dec 26, 2023 13:53:04 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

The only thing holding your husband JPSs career back is himself. He's very good technically and sometimes a bit funny, but that's it.

Edit: I would have preferred to keep quiet as I prefer to be positive but as you troll every Banksy thread I didn't.

Really glad you didn't stay quiet, but who are you ? What makes you so special ? 

And yes, I know that his skills and comedy made team Banksy uncomfortable enough to close every door they could. 

If you read my post as praise you're mistaken.

[Minecrafter]

Dec 26, 2023 16:34:20 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

Dec 26, 2023 15:51:36 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Really glad you didn't stay quiet, but who are you ? What makes you so special ? 

And yes, I know that his skills and comedy made team Banksy uncomfortable enough to close every door they could. 

If you read my post as praise you're mistaken.

I read your post as any other posts by anonymous trolls and cowards. 

[lukas01]

Dec 26, 2023 16:34:20 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

Dec 26, 2023 15:51:36 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

Really glad you didn't stay quiet, but who are you ? What makes you so special ? 

And yes, I know that his skills and comedy made team Banksy uncomfortable enough to close every door they could. 

If you read my post as praise you're mistaken.

My friend, do you know the story of the camel, the road sign and the automatic car wash?
Are you positioned well?
Do you want me to start the story?
Well! :-)))

Once upon a time there was a camel, a "Stop" road sign and an automatic car wash.

One day the camel stopped in front of the "stop sign" to rest and was right in front of the automatic car wash.

It was a female camel... automatic wash... Stop... Stop... camel... automatic... wash... camel... Stop... Stop....

[sm3gz]

Guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions and theory’s and being an art forum,
We still should respect anyone with different views even if we don’t agree.

Happy New Year when it comes everyone.


I don’t personally like the stick on 3D method, prefer if Mr B got back on the cans.