STOP • Banksy Drone Stop Sign

[trickledown]

Dec 24, 2023 2:01:59 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Pretty sure that's Leon, he's the guy who stole the sperm alarm. If that is him, he's going to get fucked given his record. Not sure about all the pearl clutching, clearly Banksy knew it was going to get nicked in like 10 minutes, which was the point, it obviously creates a far bigger story.

"A 23-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of theft and criminal damage after a £250,000 Banksy art installation was taken from south-east London, the Metropolitan Police said."

That means that Leon was only 10 years of age when he stole Sperm Alarm... 

[sitecrip]

I'd definitely have nicked both of them at 10 🤣

[trickledown]

Dec 24, 2023 2:33:30 GMT 1 sitecrip said:

I'd definitely have nicked both of them at 10 🤣

'But the judge said letters written by his family had swayed him away from jailing Lawrence, who first began offending in 1996.'

It's quite impressive that Leon was offending 4 years prior to being born.

[LJCal]

Dec 24, 2023 2:12:45 GMT 1 trickledown said:

Dec 24, 2023 2:01:59 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Pretty sure that's Leon, he's the guy who stole the sperm alarm. If that is him, he's going to get fucked given his record. Not sure about all the pearl clutching, clearly Banksy knew it was going to get nicked in like 10 minutes, which was the point, it obviously creates a far bigger story.

"A 23-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of theft and criminal damage after a £250,000 Banksy art installation was taken from south-east London, the Metropolitan Police said."

That means that Leon was only 10 years of age when he stole Sperm Alarm... 

Ah I didn't see that bit, maybe it's Leon junior lol 

[sitecrip]

Anyways,got a slightly battered STOP sign for sale with some Thunderbirds ships on it for sale. £567890000 ono.

[This is not a watermelon]

Dec 24, 2023 0:56:37 GMT 1 ┏( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)┛ EnS said:

I hope for him that he’s not from an Islamic country/ Islamic religion because we all know what the punishment is under Islam…

What a shame and what an idiot. Not even hiding his face.
Surely not the smartest of the bunch.

[iamzero]

This has got to be the least amount of chat for an on street Banksy release I can remember. Personally like it, a great piece from placement and idea. Slightly predictable but still good and was always gonna get stolen quickly.
Here’s a thing though. If the drones had been placed onto a sign made by Banksy and then he puts that sign on a post and it gets taken… not theft?
The drones are stuck to an existing traffic sign and the whole thing is removed… that’s considered theft?

[Georgie Poppit]

Obviously nothing more important going on in the world if this is hitting the news headlines.

[Daylight Robber]

Dec 23, 2023 21:33:07 GMT 1 Londown 01 said:

Dec 23, 2023 21:19:15 GMT 1 trumpton said:

Read some history, clown.

Also, if you're justifying a nation killing civilians because of the actions of Hamas then you have the mental capacity of a child, a stupid child at that.

Do you have a definition of "genocide" you want to present? 


I'll not comment on what you've written because ... well ... 

Whilst onus will always be on providing sufficient proof, there are plenty of leading, independent experts on Genocide and Human Rights who have suggested Israel is committing Genocide and or Ethnic Cleansing. Those voices, like the voices of many journalists who are trying to report objectively are being suppressed.

There is no doubt war crimes have been committed on both sides so in my view there is no moral high ground to be taken in this conflict. The pictures of +70 days of bombardment of Gaza do not suggest a measured response to the abhorrent actions of the 7th Oct. The cynical propaganda campaign which has accompanied it somehow (for many people) seems to be making those actions worse. "Trust me bro" is not a valid argument.

So, is it genocide? I guess for many people, having witnessed other genocides, it very much feels like it. Until more proof can be presented, people will just have to go with gut feelings. More and more evidence is being gathered though.

E.g. new in the last few days..... 
During the first six weeks of the war in Gaza, Israel routinely used one of its biggest and most destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to an analysis of visual evidence by The New York Times.

I'd be interested to know why people don't think it is a genocide.

[nikos76]

I will write my opinion on the subject of “Stop”
I think everyone would have tried to get this piece, anyone who tells me no is simply lying.
I hope that Banksy's next trip will be to Gaza like he did in Ukraine and that he will try to raise money for the Palestinians.
I wish you all a Merry Christmas and that peace returns to the world.

[laughn0w]

Dec 24, 2023 11:20:26 GMT 1 iamzero said:

This has got to be the least amount of chat for an on street Banksy release I can remember. Personally like it, a great piece from placement and idea. Slightly predictable but still good and was always gonna get stolen quickly.
Here’s a thing though. If the drones had been placed onto a sign made by Banksy and then he puts that sign on a post and it gets taken… not theft?
The drones are stuck to an existing traffic sign and the whole thing is removed… that’s considered theft?

I was wondering something similar. If the guy had scraped off the drones and left the sign would the police have got involved? I guess it could still be considered theft of art in the public domain but I’m also not a lawyer 

[its all about me]

Dec 24, 2023 12:47:53 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

I think everyone would have tried to get this piece, anyone who tells me no is simply lying.

You seem to have a very low opinion of humanity, don't you.  I can say, with hand on heart, that I would never steal a Banksy or any other artwork. Likewise, I wouldn't take a bicycle that is left unlocked in the street.  And if someone dropped their wallet I would run after them to give it back. I like to think most people would.  But it seems you would not. 
Oh well, happy Christmas to you anyway. 

[nikos76]

Merry Christmas 
For you and your family 
Peace in the world 

[sitecrip]

Dec 24, 2023 13:38:03 GMT 1 its all about me said:

Dec 24, 2023 12:47:53 GMT 1 nikos76 said:

I think everyone would have tried to get this piece, anyone who tells me no is simply lying.

You seem to have a very low opinion of humanity, don't you.  I can say, with hand on heart, that I would never steal a Banksy or any other artwork. Likewise, I wouldn't take a bicycle that is left unlocked in the street.  And if someone dropped their wallet I would run after them to give it back. I like to think most people would.  But it seems you would not. 
Oh well, happy Christmas to you anyway. 

[sitecrip]

Never been skint have you?

[Deleted]

Dec 24, 2023 11:20:26 GMT 1 iamzero said:

This has got to be the least amount of chat for an on street Banksy release I can remember. Personally like it, a great piece from placement and idea. Slightly predictable but still good and was always gonna get stolen quickly.
Here’s a thing though. If the drones had been placed onto a sign made by Banksy and then he puts that sign on a post and it gets taken… not theft?
The drones are stuck to an existing traffic sign and the whole thing is removed… that’s considered theft?

  I agree, like you said it's good placement, maybe a bit predictable. Tbh when it was first posted I thought it was a distraction to draw away attention while something was being put into action elsewhere coming up to Xmas but doesn't seem to be.
Most on here have prob ended up with a sign or trolley or cone in their possession at some point so that shouldnt bother too many people.
 The council sign was vandalised by B, the vandalised sign was then stolen by a local. I think the artist would see the hypocrisy in him having any issue with someone stealing a council sign after he vandalised it.
If the artist was given 2 choices 1) the council claims it and removes it to be displayed out of context with not a lot of impact/publicity surrounding it or 2) someone nicks it and the message is spread to millions more of the back of it.
Which do you think he would choose? 
It had to be removed regardless as it would obv cause traffic issues/distraction.
I'm pretty sure he knew it was likely to get lifted quickly. I don't feel what happened to this piece after it's job was done was a great concern to him as  it would've been simple to make it harder to remove if he was concerned the council wouldn't get it. 
Does anyone really think the artist would like to see the guy arrested and the sign returned to the council? I can't see it.
This one seemed to be first come first served by nature and unfortunately for the council someone else was quicker to react.

[sitecrip]

I'm literally on the breadline at the moment and can say hand on heart that I would have taken that sign,cos Banksy left it to be taken,he ain't stupid,plus if I didn't, someone else.. etc, already did. Stop fucking being a turbo melt thinking it's a public art thing. It's been seen by millions. Point made.

[Minecrafter]

Nobody talks about the message at all, all they talk about is the theft and false values. 

This is just another desperate attempt to pump some value into the market and they clearly completely out of original ideas. 

[sitecrip]

I think, unless you've just been in a massive traffic accident because there wasn't a stop sign at the junction, the message is clear.

[Georgie Poppit]

I think it’s pretty clear Banksy is not what he once was and may as well call it a day. I’m sure this work will be revived when the next generation pick it up as being retro cool.

[mojo]

How not to spend Christmas Eve! 
link - second person arrested

Not just Peckham: the long list of Banksy’s disappearing art - link

While arrests have been made after a street work was stolen in London, some vanishing acts have been intentional promotional tools

A Banksy that was removed from a lamp-post in Peckham, south London, only a few hours after it appeared has joined a long list of his work that has vanished over the years.

While arrests have been made in connection with the latest removal, the work is not always taken without his consent or for an apparent attempt to cash in. While many have quickly appeared on the art market, others were savvy promotional tools or served as a windfall for struggling charities.

Here are some others.

Livin The Dream/Caution, Los Angeles (2011)
Several Banksy pieces appeared within a few weeks of one another in Los Angeles during February 2011 as the artist, who was in the running for an Oscar for his Exit Through The Gift Shop documentary, launched a guerrilla campaign across the city of angels in the lead up to the awards.

One work depicted Charlie Brown in the act of arson, while another featured an inebriated Mickey Mouse with his pants down. The works didn’t fare very well: the Mickey Mouse piece was removed and destroyed, while a third piece called Caution – located in the East LA neighbourhood of Boyle Heights – was sawn out of the wall it was stencilled on.

Slave Labour, Wood Green (2013)

An apparent critique of child labour and the diamond jubilee in 2012, this image of a young boy sewing union flag bunting together appeared on the side of a Poundland store in Wood Green, north London. It lasted more than six months before being removed overnight in February 2013 before resurfacing at an auction house in Miami.

Protests from leaders at Haringey council saw the work (which is also known as the “Poundland Banksy”) removed from sale and returned to the UK. It was eventually sold in London, commanding a fee of £750,000.

The Whitehouse Rat, Liverpool (2013)

This giant white rat appeared on The Whitehouse, a derelict pub on the corner of Berry Street and Duke Street in Liverpool back in 2004. It remained there, becoming a local landmark, until 2011 when it was removed before the building it was etched on was demolished.

Since then its led an interesting life: first becoming the main attraction at a “graffiti bar” in Waterloo, then being sold into private hands. Its current whereabouts is unknown but when it was last at auction in the Netherlands – where it brought in more than £400,000 – it was rumoured to have been snapped up by a UK buyer.

Mobile Lovers, Bristol (2014)
Stencilled on a piece of boarding attached to the side of a youth club, this image of two lovers embracing while checking their phones, was initially removed and placed inside – where members of the public could view it while being encouraged to donate to the cash-strapped club.

After the management of the club received death threats, they handed it over to the city council, which displayed it before the artist himself took the rare step of intervening and declaring the club could have it. They promptly sold it and used the proceeds to ensure the institution could carry on.

Morning Has Broken, Herne Bay (2023)

Earlier this year, another Banksy appeared on a decaying building, this time in the Kent town of Herne Bay. It depicted a child opening the curtains – made out of corrugated iron – on the side of the derelict farmhouse. But the work was demolished shortly afterwards, without the owner or the company carrying out the work being aware it was a Banksy, and potentially worth a small fortune.

“We had no idea it was a Banksy. It made me feel sick realising it was a Banksy – we were gutted,” one of the contractors told website KentOnline.

[This is not a watermelon]

The message of Banksy's latest piece? 

1. Ceasefire. No more death. Enough. 

2. Using the same drones? Recycling the same image. A reminder that nothing has changed- things were like this before October. 

3. The drones- with small cameras- conveying the lack of freedom for those unable to escape the eyes of the IDF. The management of the media everywhere? Isreal's own media is heavily censored and controlled- phones are confiscated all the time. No freedom of speech. No freedom for Palestine. 

4. The placement, the theft. You all say Banksy knew it would be taken- is his placement ironic? Echoing the theft and occupation of land? 

5. Is it a message about Christmas? How it has become commercialised to the point where people have forgotten the original meaning... the original story? A reminder to stop and think. 

What do you think? What is the ART saying? 

[This is not a watermelon]

The recent story shared by Wisam of The Walled Off Hotel echoes some of these sentiments: 

www.instagram.com/stories/wisamsalsaa/3264778917573068468?igsh=MWE3empteWx6dXVxcg==

And for those who have not seen what has been happening to the people of Palestine, here is a very very graphic summary so far: WARNING, content shows explicit violence, death and destruction

www.instagram.com/reel/C1PA3ExtGrF/?igsh=cWgwYmRrNnIxeWY0

[Minecrafter]

Dec 24, 2023 15:45:45 GMT 1 mojo said:

How not to spend Christmas Eve! 
link - second person arrested

Not just Peckham: the long list of Banksy’s disappearing art - link

While arrests have been made after a street work was stolen in London, some vanishing acts have been intentional promotional tools

A Banksy that was removed from a lamp-post in Peckham, south London, only a few hours after it appeared has joined a long list of his work that has vanished over the years.

While arrests have been made in connection with the latest removal, the work is not always taken without his consent or for an apparent attempt to cash in. While many have quickly appeared on the art market, others were savvy promotional tools or served as a windfall for struggling charities.

Here are some others.

Livin The Dream/Caution, Los Angeles (2011)
Several Banksy pieces appeared within a few weeks of one another in Los Angeles during February 2011 as the artist, who was in the running for an Oscar for his Exit Through The Gift Shop documentary, launched a guerrilla campaign across the city of angels in the lead up to the awards.

One work depicted Charlie Brown in the act of arson, while another featured an inebriated Mickey Mouse with his pants down. The works didn’t fare very well: the Mickey Mouse piece was removed and destroyed, while a third piece called Caution – located in the East LA neighbourhood of Boyle Heights – was sawn out of the wall it was stencilled on.

Slave Labour, Wood Green (2013)

An apparent critique of child labour and the diamond jubilee in 2012, this image of a young boy sewing union flag bunting together appeared on the side of a Poundland store in Wood Green, north London. It lasted more than six months before being removed overnight in February 2013 before resurfacing at an auction house in Miami.

Protests from leaders at Haringey council saw the work (which is also known as the “Poundland Banksy”) removed from sale and returned to the UK. It was eventually sold in London, commanding a fee of £750,000.

The Whitehouse Rat, Liverpool (2013)

This giant white rat appeared on The Whitehouse, a derelict pub on the corner of Berry Street and Duke Street in Liverpool back in 2004. It remained there, becoming a local landmark, until 2011 when it was removed before the building it was etched on was demolished.

Since then its led an interesting life: first becoming the main attraction at a “graffiti bar” in Waterloo, then being sold into private hands. Its current whereabouts is unknown but when it was last at auction in the Netherlands – where it brought in more than £400,000 – it was rumoured to have been snapped up by a UK buyer.

Mobile Lovers, Bristol (2014)
Stencilled on a piece of boarding attached to the side of a youth club, this image of two lovers embracing while checking their phones, was initially removed and placed inside – where members of the public could view it while being encouraged to donate to the cash-strapped club.

After the management of the club received death threats, they handed it over to the city council, which displayed it before the artist himself took the rare step of intervening and declaring the club could have it. They promptly sold it and used the proceeds to ensure the institution could carry on.

Morning Has Broken, Herne Bay (2023)

Earlier this year, another Banksy appeared on a decaying building, this time in the Kent town of Herne Bay. It depicted a child opening the curtains – made out of corrugated iron – on the side of the derelict farmhouse. But the work was demolished shortly afterwards, without the owner or the company carrying out the work being aware it was a Banksy, and potentially worth a small fortune.

“We had no idea it was a Banksy. It made me feel sick realising it was a Banksy – we were gutted,” one of the contractors told website KentOnline.

You forgot about this one, Mrs. brooks. 

What was learned from this people going to jail? Oh let's put it on an easy to steal road sign in the middle of Peckham . 
Almost feels like entrapment because the media is telling people this stuff is actually worth something. 

[lukas01]

Dec 24, 2023 16:16:58 GMT 1 This is not a watermelon said:

The message of Banksy's latest piece? 

1. Ceasefire. No more death. Enough. 

2. Using the same drones? Recycling the same image. A reminder that nothing has changed- things were like this before October. 

3. The drones- with small cameras- conveying the lack of freedom for those unable to escape the eyes of the IDF. The management of the media everywhere? Isreal's own media is heavily censored and controlled- phones are confiscated all the time. No freedom of speech. No freedom for Palestine. 

4. The placement, the theft. You all say Banksy knew it would be taken- is his placement ironic? Echoing the theft and occupation of land? 

5. Is it a message about Christmas? How it has become commercialised to the point where people have forgotten the original meaning... the original story? A reminder to stop and think. 

What do you think? What is the ART saying? 

Drones were also in the Croydon (GDP) showcase.
What meaning did they have in that window? War?
It didn't seem like a message associated with a war to me.

[lukas01]

Dec 24, 2023 15:45:45 GMT 1 mojo said:

How not to spend Christmas Eve! 
link - second person arrested

Not just Peckham: the long list of Banksy’s disappearing art - link

While arrests have been made after a street work was stolen in London, some vanishing acts have been intentional promotional tools

A Banksy that was removed from a lamp-post in Peckham, south London, only a few hours after it appeared has joined a long list of his work that has vanished over the years.

While arrests have been made in connection with the latest removal, the work is not always taken without his consent or for an apparent attempt to cash in. While many have quickly appeared on the art market, others were savvy promotional tools or served as a windfall for struggling charities.

Here are some others.

Livin The Dream/Caution, Los Angeles (2011)
Several Banksy pieces appeared within a few weeks of one another in Los Angeles during February 2011 as the artist, who was in the running for an Oscar for his Exit Through The Gift Shop documentary, launched a guerrilla campaign across the city of angels in the lead up to the awards.

One work depicted Charlie Brown in the act of arson, while another featured an inebriated Mickey Mouse with his pants down. The works didn’t fare very well: the Mickey Mouse piece was removed and destroyed, while a third piece called Caution – located in the East LA neighbourhood of Boyle Heights – was sawn out of the wall it was stencilled on.

Slave Labour, Wood Green (2013)

An apparent critique of child labour and the diamond jubilee in 2012, this image of a young boy sewing union flag bunting together appeared on the side of a Poundland store in Wood Green, north London. It lasted more than six months before being removed overnight in February 2013 before resurfacing at an auction house in Miami.

Protests from leaders at Haringey council saw the work (which is also known as the “Poundland Banksy”) removed from sale and returned to the UK. It was eventually sold in London, commanding a fee of £750,000.

The Whitehouse Rat, Liverpool (2013)

This giant white rat appeared on The Whitehouse, a derelict pub on the corner of Berry Street and Duke Street in Liverpool back in 2004. It remained there, becoming a local landmark, until 2011 when it was removed before the building it was etched on was demolished.

Since then its led an interesting life: first becoming the main attraction at a “graffiti bar” in Waterloo, then being sold into private hands. Its current whereabouts is unknown but when it was last at auction in the Netherlands – where it brought in more than £400,000 – it was rumoured to have been snapped up by a UK buyer.

Mobile Lovers, Bristol (2014)
Stencilled on a piece of boarding attached to the side of a youth club, this image of two lovers embracing while checking their phones, was initially removed and placed inside – where members of the public could view it while being encouraged to donate to the cash-strapped club.

After the management of the club received death threats, they handed it over to the city council, which displayed it before the artist himself took the rare step of intervening and declaring the club could have it. They promptly sold it and used the proceeds to ensure the institution could carry on.

Morning Has Broken, Herne Bay (2023)

Earlier this year, another Banksy appeared on a decaying building, this time in the Kent town of Herne Bay. It depicted a child opening the curtains – made out of corrugated iron – on the side of the derelict farmhouse. But the work was demolished shortly afterwards, without the owner or the company carrying out the work being aware it was a Banksy, and potentially worth a small fortune.

“We had no idea it was a Banksy. It made me feel sick realising it was a Banksy – we were gutted,” one of the contractors told website KentOnline.

The sheet metal curtains are currently recovered.
They were in Banksy's last exhibition in Glasgow.
First they were in one of GDP's windows.

[This is not a watermelon]

Dec 24, 2023 16:52:38 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

Dec 24, 2023 16:16:58 GMT 1 This is not a watermelon said:

The message of Banksy's latest piece? 

1. Ceasefire. No more death. Enough. 

2. Using the same drones? Recycling the same image. A reminder that nothing has changed- things were like this before October. 

3. The drones- with small cameras- conveying the lack of freedom for those unable to escape the eyes of the IDF. The management of the media everywhere? Isreal's own media is heavily censored and controlled- phones are confiscated all the time. No freedom of speech. No freedom for Palestine. 

4. The placement, the theft. You all say Banksy knew it would be taken- is his placement ironic? Echoing the theft and occupation of land? 

5. Is it a message about Christmas? How it has become commercialised to the point where people have forgotten the original meaning... the original story? A reminder to stop and think. 

What do you think? What is the ART saying? 

Drones were also in the Croydon (GDP) showcase.
What meaning did they have in that window? War?
It didn't seem like a message associated with a war to me.

Lack of freedom? Always being watched? 

What do you think the new piece means in this context? 

[This is not a watermelon]

Bombs being dropped? 

[lukas01]

Dec 24, 2023 17:21:20 GMT 1 This is not a watermelon said:

Dec 24, 2023 16:52:38 GMT 1 lukas01 said:

Drones were also in the Croydon (GDP) showcase.
What meaning did they have in that window? War?
It didn't seem like a message associated with a war to me.

Lack of freedom? Always being watched? 

What do you think the new piece means in this context? 

It is a STOP road sign, where drones like those that appeared previously have been inserted above.
The words "commercial way" appear below.
All located in front of a specialized funeral agency.

It all brings me back to GDP.
But what that might mean I couldn't tell you. 









Coincidences.
Who believes in coincidences?

[rjf76]

Dec 24, 2023 13:43:58 GMT 1 sitecrip said:

Never been skint have you?

This has nothing to do with being skint…