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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by its all about me on May 11, 2023 18:10:19 GMT 1, If that happened then it would likely be that while you were trying to pay it sold out so the edition was no longer available. Very poor business practice of removing the prints from a cart during payment processing! This is not Avant Arte's fault. That's simply how these things work. Something sells out whilst you are sending payment and address details ...so you don't get it. There's nothing AA can do about that.
The only way round such things is if they reserved a piece for you once it was in your cart. But I don't know of any company that does that.
If that happened then it would likely be that while you were trying to pay it sold out so the edition was no longer available. Very poor business practice of removing the prints from a cart during payment processing! This is not Avant Arte's fault. That's simply how these things work. Something sells out whilst you are sending payment and address details ...so you don't get it. There's nothing AA can do about that. The only way round such things is if they reserved a piece for you once it was in your cart. But I don't know of any company that does that.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by topper on May 11, 2023 18:22:05 GMT 1, No idea why people are knocking AA to be honest.
I tried to get the Shepherd Fairey Ali print last week (more an Ali fan than Fairey). It sold out within seconds, with dozens on eBay within minutes.
AA gave people who went to a AW exhibition a chance to get in first, slapped a 2 year resale agreement on it and keep prices low.
I think they did well. Maybe this post says it all...
"..uch well - reckon this business is dead. might as well look elsewhere , this model looks a bit fubar."
No idea why people are knocking AA to be honest.
I tried to get the Shepherd Fairey Ali print last week (more an Ali fan than Fairey). It sold out within seconds, with dozens on eBay within minutes.
AA gave people who went to a AW exhibition a chance to get in first, slapped a 2 year resale agreement on it and keep prices low.
I think they did well. Maybe this post says it all...
"..uch well - reckon this business is dead. might as well look elsewhere , this model looks a bit fubar."
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by CP on May 11, 2023 18:37:57 GMT 1, The alternative is probably the raffle method which is a giant black box that hardly seems fair. Avant Arte is actually one of the best galleries Iโve dealt with from customer service to quality. The fact that they are on this forum answering questions goes to that as well. Hope they donโt change a thing!
The alternative is probably the raffle method which is a giant black box that hardly seems fair. Avant Arte is actually one of the best galleries Iโve dealt with from customer service to quality. The fact that they are on this forum answering questions goes to that as well. Hope they donโt change a thing!
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eyectopus
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by eyectopus on May 11, 2023 19:32:38 GMT 1, I agree, it was very well handled and gave forum members a great opportunity. I messed up as I didn't realise it was a Publicly available code at first and only realised when all Human Flow and the Vase had sold out on pre-order. My own fault completely. I saw them at the Design Museum last week and they are all excellent pieces. The show itself is great and a lot different to other artists shows I have been to in the past. The Lego Water Lillies is stunning.
I agree, it was very well handled and gave forum members a great opportunity. I messed up as I didn't realise it was a Publicly available code at first and only realised when all Human Flow and the Vase had sold out on pre-order. My own fault completely. I saw them at the Design Museum last week and they are all excellent pieces. The show itself is great and a lot different to other artists shows I have been to in the past. The Lego Water Lillies is stunning.
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ubl
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by ubl on May 11, 2023 20:21:44 GMT 1, It does seem impossible to do a proper release in the internet days. Need a good old overnight camping queue.
It does seem impossible to do a proper release in the internet days. Need a good old overnight camping queue.
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nobokov
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by nobokov on May 11, 2023 20:24:24 GMT 1, What's with all the whining you idiots? It's not that hard to buy something from AA.
What's with all the whining you idiots? It's not that hard to buy something from AA.
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Charlie Bronson
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Charlie Bronson on May 11, 2023 20:28:37 GMT 1, Just watched the printing power video; really cool to see the process. For those that saw Human Flow in person, is the print framed with or without glass?
Just watched the printing power video; really cool to see the process. For those that saw Human Flow in person, is the print framed with or without glass?
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ubl
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by ubl on May 11, 2023 20:33:06 GMT 1, It does seem impossible to do a proper release in the internet days. Need a good old overnight camping queue. This wasnt a complaint towards AA, I believe they did really well with this release...
It does seem impossible to do a proper release in the internet days. Need a good old overnight camping queue. This wasnt a complaint towards AA, I believe they did really well with this release...
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eyectopus
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by eyectopus on May 11, 2023 20:50:09 GMT 1, Just watched the printing power video; really cool to see the process. For those that saw Human Flow in person, is the print framed with or without glass? It is without glass. That could be that the glass could impact the mirror element of it, but not sure.
Just watched the printing power video; really cool to see the process. For those that saw Human Flow in person, is the print framed with or without glass? It is without glass. That could be that the glass could impact the mirror element of it, but not sure.
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Jimini Cricket
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Jimini Cricket on May 11, 2023 21:06:21 GMT 1, This is just the soft opening of the UAA Zoo. Wait until the release of the glass vase. Hehehe. Fun to watch all the animals during feeding time.
This is just the soft opening of the UAA Zoo. Wait until the release of the glass vase. Hehehe. Fun to watch all the animals during feeding time.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by 321- on May 11, 2023 21:40:31 GMT 1, Just watched the printing power video; really cool to see the process. For those that saw Human Flow in person, is the print framed with or without glass? It is without glass. That could be that the glass could impact the mirror element of it, but not sure. the ink is UV printed. No need for UV protection.
Just watched the printing power video; really cool to see the process. For those that saw Human Flow in person, is the print framed with or without glass? It is without glass. That could be that the glass could impact the mirror element of it, but not sure. the ink is UV printed. No need for UV protection.
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eye like
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by eye like on May 12, 2023 0:11:19 GMT 1, Very poor business practice of removing the prints from a cart during payment processing! This is not Avant Arte's fault. That's simply how these things work. Something sells out whilst you are sending payment and address details ...so you don't get it. There's nothing AA can do about that. The only way round such things is if they reserved a piece for you once it was in your cart. But I don't know of any company that does that. Actually thatโs not strictly true. Many cart systems allow you to set a fixed time period for the customer to enter their information and check out once a product is placed in their basket. The product is theirs unless they fail to complete their purchase within that time frame, which is usually 5 minutes in my experience, so more than long enough. Itโs used a lot by music venues, for example.
I think itโs fairer for the buyer, but probably not as good for the seller as they donโt get that fomo effect which drives panic buying behaviour that can lead to purchases that perhaps if youโd had a couple of minutes to think about, you might not follow through with.
Very poor business practice of removing the prints from a cart during payment processing! This is not Avant Arte's fault. That's simply how these things work. Something sells out whilst you are sending payment and address details ...so you don't get it. There's nothing AA can do about that. The only way round such things is if they reserved a piece for you once it was in your cart. But I don't know of any company that does that. Actually thatโs not strictly true. Many cart systems allow you to set a fixed time period for the customer to enter their information and check out once a product is placed in their basket. The product is theirs unless they fail to complete their purchase within that time frame, which is usually 5 minutes in my experience, so more than long enough. Itโs used a lot by music venues, for example. I think itโs fairer for the buyer, but probably not as good for the seller as they donโt get that fomo effect which drives panic buying behaviour that can lead to purchases that perhaps if youโd had a couple of minutes to think about, you might not follow through with.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by surf101 on May 12, 2023 10:39:59 GMT 1, If that happened then it would likely be that while you were trying to pay it sold out so the edition was no longer available. Very poor business practice of removing the prints from a cart during payment processing! Got to be quick or miss out, AA told you that beforehand on this thread.
If that happened then it would likely be that while you were trying to pay it sold out so the edition was no longer available. Very poor business practice of removing the prints from a cart during payment processing! Got to be quick or miss out, AA told you that beforehand on this thread.
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Ads Army
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Ads Army on May 12, 2023 10:45:14 GMT 1, Nothing wrong with AA system and processes - in fact those on UAA had the inside track on everything from them so quit complaining !
Nothing wrong with AA system and processes - in fact those on UAA had the inside track on everything from them so quit complaining !
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Wanchope
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Wanchope on May 12, 2023 11:08:33 GMT 1, Just had delivery notification for Free Speech, cannot wait!
Just had delivery notification for Free Speech, cannot wait!
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by ap0 on May 12, 2023 11:16:58 GMT 1, To those who managed to pick a print up on release, which payment method did you use? I would assume PayPal is the fastest
To those who managed to pick a print up on release, which payment method did you use? I would assume PayPal is the fastest
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by its all about me on May 12, 2023 12:01:50 GMT 1, This is not Avant Arte's fault. That's simply how these things work. Something sells out whilst you are sending payment and address details ...so you don't get it. There's nothing AA can do about that. The only way round such things is if they reserved a piece for you once it was in your cart. But I don't know of any company that does that. Actually thatโs not strictly true. Many cart systems allow you to set a fixed time period for the customer to enter their information and check out once a product is placed in their basket. The product is theirs unless they fail to complete their purchase within that time frame, which is usually 5 minutes in my experience, so more than long enough. Itโs used a lot by music venues, for example. I think itโs fairer for the buyer, but probably not as good for the seller as they donโt get that fomo effect which drives panic buying behaviour that can lead to purchases that perhaps if youโd had a couple of minutes to think about, you might not follow through with. Yes, I realise some music venues and theatres use that system but I don't know of any art gallery that does that. But even if they did, I don't think it would help, would it? The bots would still syphon up everything in less than one second.
As far as the FOMO effect is concerned, stuff like this is going to sell out really quickly with or without FOMO.
This is not Avant Arte's fault. That's simply how these things work. Something sells out whilst you are sending payment and address details ...so you don't get it. There's nothing AA can do about that. The only way round such things is if they reserved a piece for you once it was in your cart. But I don't know of any company that does that. Actually thatโs not strictly true. Many cart systems allow you to set a fixed time period for the customer to enter their information and check out once a product is placed in their basket. The product is theirs unless they fail to complete their purchase within that time frame, which is usually 5 minutes in my experience, so more than long enough. Itโs used a lot by music venues, for example. I think itโs fairer for the buyer, but probably not as good for the seller as they donโt get that fomo effect which drives panic buying behaviour that can lead to purchases that perhaps if youโd had a couple of minutes to think about, you might not follow through with. Yes, I realise some music venues and theatres use that system but I don't know of any art gallery that does that. But even if they did, I don't think it would help, would it? The bots would still syphon up everything in less than one second. As far as the FOMO effect is concerned, stuff like this is going to sell out really quickly with or without FOMO.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Londown 01 on May 12, 2023 12:04:13 GMT 1, Not everybody will and can be happy with a release of this sort. Too big of a name, great images and highly limited.
Do it first come first serve: somebody will be too slow. Do it via lottery: some will not win (and it will be labelled a "black box"). Do it as a timed release: some will complain that it is not limited enough.
Not everybody will and can be happy with a release of this sort. Too big of a name, great images and highly limited.
Do it first come first serve: somebody will be too slow. Do it via lottery: some will not win (and it will be labelled a "black box"). Do it as a timed release: some will complain that it is not limited enough.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by topper on May 12, 2023 14:12:29 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived!
Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by sevrin on May 12, 2023 14:20:39 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Very Very nice, congratulations!
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Very Very nice, congratulations!
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Someone Like You on May 12, 2023 14:27:56 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Ia a beauty ๐๐๐
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Ia a beauty ๐๐๐
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Wanchope
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Wanchope on May 12, 2023 14:56:17 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Looks exactly what I am expecting, great stuff and cheers for sharing
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Looks exactly what I am expecting, great stuff and cheers for sharing
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by topper on May 12, 2023 15:02:45 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Very Very nice, congratulations! Thanks mate, delighted with it!
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Very Very nice, congratulations! Thanks mate, delighted with it!
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by surf101 on May 12, 2023 16:23:09 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Nice how the colours catch the light, can't wait to get these gloves
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Nice how the colours catch the light, can't wait to get these gloves
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Avant Arte on May 12, 2023 16:47:29 GMT 1, topper So happy you like the print! Did you see the crabs glow yet?
topper So happy you like the print! Did you see the crabs glow yet?
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by topper on May 12, 2023 18:54:11 GMT 1, topper So happy you like the print! Did you see the crabs glow yet? Not yet, couldn't get it dark enough. Maybe they need to absorb some light first?
topper So happy you like the print! Did you see the crabs glow yet? Not yet, couldn't get it dark enough. Maybe they need to absorb some light first?
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Newar on May 12, 2023 22:16:48 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Congrats looks great ! Wish to have pull the trigger on this one too but but can't buy everything
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Congrats looks great ! Wish to have pull the trigger on this one too but but can't buy everything
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ubl
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by ubl on May 13, 2023 13:43:00 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte
Let's be honest, the true winner! Congrats! It will be interesting to see how people frame this one, so much you can do with it.
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Let's be honest, the true winner! Congrats! It will be interesting to see how people frame this one, so much you can do with it.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by King and a Duck on May 13, 2023 14:18:42 GMT 1, So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Congrats looks great ! Wish to have pull the trigger on this one too but but can't buy everything Amazing presentation... well done Avant Arte. Can't wait to receive mine.
So...Free Speech has arrived! Amazing up close. The colours absolutely zing against the matt black background. Packaging was superb. Didn't get it framed as I have my own guys here that know what I like. Thanks Avante Arte Congrats looks great ! Wish to have pull the trigger on this one too but but can't buy everything Amazing presentation... well done Avant Arte. Can't wait to receive mine.
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Ai Weiwei Avant Art Releases 2023, by Ads Army on May 13, 2023 14:23:53 GMT 1, Just realised Human Flow comes mounted in an unglazed wooden tray frame, painted white with visible grain !
Amazing - thank you AA !!!
Just realised Human Flow comes mounted in an unglazed wooden tray frame, painted white with visible grain !
Amazing - thank you AA !!!
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