[sandinista]

Dec 17, 2022 12:25:16 GMT 1 mojo said:

I'm pretty sure that isn't a mouse, Banksy paints rats plus without wanting to go all David Attenborough on ya'll mice are tiny and have different ears and tails to rats.
(I know this as I've inadvertently shared houses with both over the years).  Also a mouse wouldn't be able to scratch through a box like that.  Anyway, hope I get one.

It might be a mutant siamese fighting mouse?
Would you rather fight a horse size mouse or 100 mouse size horses?

[vamoose138]

where did you hear or see this? How credible is it? Any links or pics of this?

I'd be very surprise they would do "VIPs" because I thought website stated that legacy of war foundation was choosing the "winners" and website also stated it was being chosen by computer???

[mojo]

Dec 17, 2022 13:57:08 GMT 1 sandinista said:

Dec 17, 2022 12:25:16 GMT 1 mojo said:

I'm pretty sure that isn't a mouse, Banksy paints rats plus without wanting to go all David Attenborough on ya'll mice are tiny and have different ears and tails to rats.
(I know this as I've inadvertently shared houses with both over the years).  Also a mouse wouldn't be able to scratch through a box like that.  Anyway, hope I get one.

It might be a mutant siamese fighting mouse?
Would you rather fight a horse size mouse or 100 mouse size horses?

Yes, it might well be a mutant siamese fighting mouse...who knows?  I quite like the idea of a mouse sized horse or two for pets, I don't have room for a real one.  I wouldn't fight either, I'm a pacifist. 

[stuckeyc]

In my mind the rat being white represents peace.  In order to hold on peace needs to scratch, claw and adapt in order for it to hold on.  

[Django]

Two little mice fell into a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned.
The second mouse, wouldn't quit.
He struggles so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out.

[vvk]

Dec 17, 2022 12:18:08 GMT 1 cnrdvln said:

any update on the welcome mat COAs for the first batch of 400?

did we nearly go 12 months without this gem?

I Recall the  welcome mats would never have  coa's . can you share  more  info  on the  400 you speak about?

[startimeash]

Dec 17, 2022 18:04:44 GMT 1 vvk said:

Dec 17, 2022 12:18:08 GMT 1 cnrdvln said:

any update on the welcome mat COAs for the first batch of 400?

did we nearly go 12 months without this gem?

I Recall the  welcome mats would never have  coa's . can you share  more  info  on the  400 you speak about?

There’s no COA, but a few randoms claimed that there would be, because trust me, bro. The thought seemed to die a death, so it’s good to see it dredged up again. See also the secret markings on Walled Off Hotel walls that showed they were actually made by Banksy himself, also because trust me, bro…

[met]

Dec 15, 2022 17:41:15 GMT 1 bba said:

Isn't it a fancy rat?
I'm a bit late to this thread and I must admit I'm a little bit unsure as to what to make of it really.
How can they call it a screen print though? Seem more like originals to me or are the others going to be screen prints of this original maybe?
I see very little discussion around context and meaning though. There has to be more to it than the whole fragile to agile word play, surely.

Banksy refers to these being "screenprints" because that is the primary medium. They are multiples (part of an edition), screenprinted on cardboard.

That said, there may well be a hint of knowing understatement on the artist's part — which is an aspect I also find appealing.



If others (e.g. a gallery or auction house) were offering one of these prints for sale, my guess is that, for marketing reasons, they would be far more inclined to embellish their descriptions.

Perhaps "Hand-finished, [seven / eight]-colour screenprint on mixed media" might encourage some of the persuadables among potential buyers to dig even deeper into their pockets.

[Spot the linguistic reference to a highly-recommended documentary, The Great Hack (2019).]

[Wearology]

The Welcome Mats do not and will not have COA's.
That was stated by Pest Control before, during and after the release.
The "Trust Me Bro Posse" are not correct in their assessment.

[Manty]

Dec 17, 2022 20:08:43 GMT 1 met said:

Dec 15, 2022 17:41:15 GMT 1 bba said:

Isn't it a fancy rat?
I'm a bit late to this thread and I must admit I'm a little bit unsure as to what to make of it really.
How can they call it a screen print though? Seem more like originals to me or are the others going to be screen prints of this original maybe?
I see very little discussion around context and meaning though. There has to be more to it than the whole fragile to agile word play, surely.

Banksy refers to these being "screenprints" because that is the primary medium. They are multiples (part of an edition), screenprinted on cardboard.

That said, there may well be a hint of knowing understatement on the artist's part — which is an aspect I also find appealing.



If others (e.g. a gallery or auction house) were offering one of these prints for sale, my guess is that, for marketing reasons, they would be far more inclined to embellish their descriptions.

Perhaps "Hand-finished, [seven / eight]-colour screenprint on mixed media" might encourage some of the persuadables among potential buyers to dig even deeper into their pockets.

[Spot the linguistic reference to a highly-recommended documentary, The Great Hack (2019).]

he used fragile/ agile on his hook box, good, I like it

[blurp]

But when?

Dec 17, 2022 20:35:34 GMT 1 Wearology said:

The Welcome Mats do not and will not have COA's.
That was stated by Pest Control before, during and after the release.
The "Trust Me Bro Posse" are not correct in their assessment.

[yoss]

“Frag-i-le…that must me Italian…”

A Christmas Sory…such a great movie

[WOOF]

Dec 17, 2022 19:42:02 GMT 1 startimeash said:

Dec 17, 2022 18:04:44 GMT 1 vvk said:

I Recall the  welcome mats would never have  coa's . can you share  more  info  on the  400 you speak about?

There’s no COA, but a few randoms claimed that there would be, because trust me, bro. The thought seemed to die a death, so it’s good to see it dredged up again. See also the secret markings on Walled Off Hotel walls that showed they were actually made by Banksy himself, also because trust me, bro…

 
Pest Control couldn't have been more clear that the mats would not receive COAs.

[vickyv]

Oh well I’m out - I found out last night that my daughter (back from uni) also applied for one so I guess the ‘one per household’ stuffs us. Because I’d definitely have won one if she’d not applied, of course 😁

[its all about me]

I'm still confused by this. Is it part of an actual cardboard box that has the screenprint image printed on top of it? Or is it a piece of thick card that has been printed to look as if it is part of a cardboard box?

[Dahmer]

Do you think these will be signed on the front in the end or will they be on the reverse…

I’m not expecting to get one cause I imagine this one might be hella oversubscribed but I’d love one anyway

[mrizzle]

Dec 18, 2022 14:36:24 GMT 1 Dahmer said:

Do you think these will be signed on the front in the end or will they be on the reverse…

I’m not expecting to get one cause I imagine this one might be hella oversubscribed but I’d love one anyway

I’m not sure about whether or not they’ll be signed but it was confirmed that there have been 1 million applications. Ever the optimist, I’m telling myself that there’s still a chance. 

[flingading]

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if 5-10% of applicants also made a donation to Legacy in the hopes of increasing their chances (or just to be charitable for a good cause) They’ll probably make more in donations then they do from the prints. Good on them.

[Fuzzyduck121]

A million hits

Not a million applications

No chance it was anywhere near that number but still slim chances

For perspective the life boat raffle which cost £2 to apply had 45,000 guesses and often people guessed more than once

Reality is that even if it’s a legitimate raffle and they give all 50 away the chances are likely to be 1000:1

Not worth worrying about

[nigelwalker]

Good luck all. Be a brilliant holiday gift to me from me

[met]

Dec 10, 2022 2:09:42 GMT 1 vvk said:

what is the significance #'s on the side. if it was a used box from some cheap ikea furniture it surely would not have the date of 12/22

"603825161"

As you've already indicated, the "12/22" is the date of creation of the piece.

Sadly, I am clueless about what the "603825161" means. Could be random, i.e. completely made up, just for the faux-packaging code. But it also wouldn't surprise me if this number (or a part thereof) were a nod by the artist to something more specific and elusive.


The reference to "a used box from some cheap ikea furniture" would be going off‑track, perhaps confusing intended appearances with reality.

Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

Dec 18, 2022 13:04:28 GMT 1 its all about me said:

I'm still confused by this. Is it part of an actual cardboard box that has the screenprint image printed on top of it? Or is it a piece of thick card that has been printed to look as if it is part of a cardboard box?

What is heartening is that you've asked yourself these questions. Meaning you're curious. Paying attention, going beyond superficial glances, and considering the artwork itself — including its possible creation process.

My ever-so-slight disappointment comes from a (possibly unjustified) suspicion that, in the above respect, you are among a minority.



The red — used for the text, numbering and packaging icons — is one of the seven or eight screenprinted colours.

A game for art enthusiasts wishing to hone their observational and reasoning skills would be the following:

Spot the multiple tells.

[mojo]

Just in case anyone missed it The Legacy of War Foundation have some great t'shirts available, to raise funds to support their work with communities impacted by conflict around the world.  LINK to t'shirts.
Jamie Reid!

Some great kids T's too


Christmas shopping done.

[hupster]

Dec 18, 2022 18:42:08 GMT 1 met said:

Dec 10, 2022 2:09:42 GMT 1 vvk said:

what is the significance #'s on the side. if it was a used box from some cheap ikea furniture it surely would not have the date of 12/22

"603825161"

As you've already indicated, the "12/22" is the date of creation of the piece.

Sadly, I am clueless about what the "603825161" means. Could be random, i.e. completely made up, just for the faux-packaging code. But it also wouldn't surprise me if this number (or a part thereof) were a nod by the artist to something more specific and elusive.


The reference to "a used box from some cheap ikea furniture" would be going off‑track, perhaps confusing intended appearances with reality.

Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

Dec 18, 2022 13:04:28 GMT 1 its all about me said:

I'm still confused by this. Is it part of an actual cardboard box that has the screenprint image printed on top of it? Or is it a piece of thick card that has been printed to look as if it is part of a cardboard box?

What is heartening is that you've asked yourself these questions. Meaning you're curious. Paying attention, going beyond superficial glances, and considering the artwork itself — including its possible creation process.

My ever-so-slight disappointment comes from a (possibly unjustified) suspicion that, in the above respect, you are among a minority.



The red — used for the text, numbering and packaging icons — is one of the seven or eight screenprinted colours.

A game for art enthusiasts wishing to hone their observational and reasoning skills would be the following:

Spot the multiple tells.

Wonder what happens if you reverse the number but start it with a 0. Could be a phone number but where ?

[its all about me]

Dec 18, 2022 18:42:08 GMT 1 met said:

Dec 10, 2022 2:09:42 GMT 1 vvk said:

what is the significance #'s on the side. if it was a used box from some cheap ikea furniture it surely would not have the date of 12/22

"603825161"

As you've already indicated, the "12/22" is the date of creation of the piece.

Sadly, I am clueless about what the "603825161" means. Could be random, i.e. completely made up, just for the faux-packaging code. But it also wouldn't surprise me if this number (or a part thereof) were a nod by the artist to something more specific and elusive.


The reference to "a used box from some cheap ikea furniture" would be going off‑track, perhaps confusing intended appearances with reality.

Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

Dec 18, 2022 13:04:28 GMT 1 its all about me said:

I'm still confused by this. Is it part of an actual cardboard box that has the screenprint image printed on top of it? Or is it a piece of thick card that has been printed to look as if it is part of a cardboard box?

What is heartening is that you've asked yourself these questions. Meaning you're curious. Paying attention, going beyond superficial glances, and considering the artwork itself — including its possible creation process.

My ever-so-slight disappointment comes from a (possibly unjustified) suspicion that, in the above respect, you are among a minority.



The red — used for the text, numbering and packaging icons — is one of the seven or eight screenprinted colours.

A game for art enthusiasts wishing to hone their observational and reasoning skills would be the following:

Spot the multiple tells.

That's interesting what you said about the red letters and arrows etc being part of the screenprint.  And also the fact that there are 7 or 8 colours/layers of the screenprint.  In my eagerness to apply for the lottery I never really read the info that carefully.  

I have to admit, I wasn't all that keen on it the first time I saw it but it's grown on me since then.  

I wonder if they have sent out any 'congratulations' e-mails yet.  It would be nice if at least one person on here got one.  

[eyectopus]

Dec 18, 2022 18:42:08 GMT 1 met said:

Dec 10, 2022 2:09:42 GMT 1 vvk said:

what is the significance #'s on the side. if it was a used box from some cheap ikea furniture it surely would not have the date of 12/22

"603825161"

As you've already indicated, the "12/22" is the date of creation of the piece.

Sadly, I am clueless about what the "603825161" means. Could be random, i.e. completely made up, just for the faux-packaging code. But it also wouldn't surprise me if this number (or a part thereof) were a nod by the artist to something more specific and elusive.


The reference to "a used box from some cheap ikea furniture" would be going off‑track, perhaps confusing intended appearances with reality.

Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

Dec 18, 2022 13:04:28 GMT 1 its all about me said:

I'm still confused by this. Is it part of an actual cardboard box that has the screenprint image printed on top of it? Or is it a piece of thick card that has been printed to look as if it is part of a cardboard box?

What is heartening is that you've asked yourself these questions. Meaning you're curious. Paying attention, going beyond superficial glances, and considering the artwork itself — including its possible creation process.

My ever-so-slight disappointment comes from a (possibly unjustified) suspicion that, in the above respect, you are among a minority.



The red — used for the text, numbering and packaging icons — is one of the seven or eight screenprinted colours.

A game for art enthusiasts wishing to hone their observational and reasoning skills would be the following:

Spot the multiple tells.

The number or part thereof is a good point. Some things I looked at was the area of Ukraine in sq kms that is close the the first 6 digits, but does not match. I also checked world population so see if any figures match.

[gus]

Dec 10, 2022 2:32:34 GMT 1 vvk said:

Dec 10, 2022 2:24:49 GMT 1 gus said:

Sounds cool, but it isn’t possible. That isn’t how blockchains work afaik. 

maybe not "blockchains" but def  the smart contracts that run on the "blockchains" 

Okay then.

*Sounds cool but that’s not how smart contracts work.

fixed it for you.

[brit invasion]

Okay, just some observations. Had a bit of fun here, so not to be taken entirely seriously.

So, couldn’t help but reminded of Massive Attack Blue lines and Protection packaging.

1 this and the symbols at the bottom reminded me of massive attack and the symbols 3d used . Red Lines.
2 the rat’s whiskers and ear neatly spell out 3d
3 could help but look at it upside down. Upside down E L look like a stylised 3d
4 back paw and it’s shadow spell out 3d. Front paw has 4 fingers but almost seems to be highlighting 3 of them
5 tried and tried but cannot figure out anything in the serial number. Wouldn’t be surprised if correlates to some sort of aid supply.
6 as highlighted, date executed
7 more symbols reminding me of massive attack. The recycle symbol having 3 arrows ♻️
8 cant help but think you can make out ‘HIRST’ lol

[ubl]

Such an awesome work, had PC issues last week, so completely missed this ballot. Totally would have been successful otherwise. Good luck all, hope some land at some lucky forum members' doorstep !

[kashi]

Dec 18, 2022 18:42:08 GMT 1 met said:

A game for art enthusiasts wishing to hone their observational and reasoning skills would be the following:

Spot the multiple tells.

Please tell the tells .. show me what you are seeing. Thank you.

[Uncle Buck]

Dec 18, 2022 18:42:08 GMT 1 met said:

Dec 10, 2022 2:09:42 GMT 1 vvk said:

what is the significance #'s on the side. if it was a used box from some cheap ikea furniture it surely would not have the date of 12/22

"603825161"

As you've already indicated, the "12/22" is the date of creation of the piece.

Sadly, I am clueless about what the "603825161" means. Could be random, i.e. completely made up, just for the faux-packaging code. But it also wouldn't surprise me if this number (or a part thereof) were a nod by the artist to something more specific and elusive.


The reference to "a used box from some cheap ikea furniture" would be going off‑track, perhaps confusing intended appearances with reality.

Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

Dec 18, 2022 13:04:28 GMT 1 its all about me said:

I'm still confused by this. Is it part of an actual cardboard box that has the screenprint image printed on top of it? Or is it a piece of thick card that has been printed to look as if it is part of a cardboard box?

What is heartening is that you've asked yourself these questions. Meaning you're curious. Paying attention, going beyond superficial glances, and considering the artwork itself — including its possible creation process.

My ever-so-slight disappointment comes from a (possibly unjustified) suspicion that, in the above respect, you are among a minority.



The red — used for the text, numbering and packaging icons — is one of the seven or eight screenprinted colours.

A game for art enthusiasts wishing to hone their observational and reasoning skills would be the following:

Spot the multiple tells.

I searched the number in reverse, it’s a Ukrainian illustration.