Ayako Rokkaku 🇯🇵 Print Release • Show News • Art For Sale

[docean]

Dec 13, 2022 18:57:25 GMT 1 Avant Arte said:

I'm here, sorry for the delayed response! I've read all your messages and understand your concern. After painting the original work Ayako spent 3 days with our printing team perfecting the print and make sure all the colours were right. Tomorrow I'm at our warehouse in person and will share images of the work that represent it better. Personally I found the print to be very vibrant and bright but I will also share some extra video footage on our Discord server that show the print "moving" in the light.

What a nonsense reply.  Whether it matches the original work, or not...the photos on your site clearly do not match one or the other.  Either you misrepresented the original, or misrepresented the print because there is quite a variance.

The print was neither perfected, nor colors done correctly.  (Not that hard to do with a simple giclee)

The craziest thing is...someone in your QC saw this printed, and then said yep go ahead with the other 3600.

Thankful I don't participate in money-grab open editions and don't own this...I would be livid.

[cryptoowly]

Here are some photos of the actual artwork, which people can use for comparison purposes. I haven't received my print but the photos I have seen look similar..

[nobokov]

I think we can all agree that what the forum is trying to say, is that the original painting looks awful.

[mem70]

If anyone doesn't like it when they receive it, don't return, just DM me and I'll buy it

[LJCal]

Some massive dicks out there. None of you have received the print yet and you're whining about some random photos. Wait til you get the print before passing judgement. I really hope some of the drama queens return the print, in fact if a few thousand of you can do it that would be great.

[Fuzzyduck121]

Who’s being a dick?

The photos of those in hand taken from a variety of sources look different to the original

That means either the photos of the OG on the avante site have been lightened massively or the repro isn’t coloured the same as the OG

On the basis this is a work of art that is intrinsically and solely valued based on its aesthetic it isn’t being a dick to discuss this difference or comment on it based on people’s photos

Isn’t this an art forum? Isn’t this thread for once actually discussing the work of art, it’s shading, colouring, composition?

If someone wants to send it back based on the above that’s a personal issue but at least we are discussing the work.

You sound like an avante shareholder calling out drama queens on this thread

[Georgie Poppit]

Just saw loads of these on eBay. This has to be the worse flip. These will be selling for cost in no time just like the Parla edition and same with Tom Sachs. These timed editions are only good for the wall.

[Black Wolf]

just got mine, a darker than it showed on the original, not happy at all.

image below

[Reader]

Dec 14, 2022 9:58:24 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

Just saw loads of these on eBay. This has to be the worse flip. These will be selling for cost in no time just like the Parla edition and same with Tom Sachs. These timed editions are only good for the wall.

Which ironically enough, is where they're suppossed to be :-), Someone's getting very wealthy by applying basic FOMO psychology and slick business practice to what used to be quite a charming ranshackle artist led "cottage industry" linking art to art lovers. Sad to see this massive and cynical hyper capitalistic expansion of the scene, which I've no doubt will end in tears for many. Some of the worse aspects of consumer capitalism at play, and off-set by nothing more than packaging and wrapped in "good customer service" by people pretending to be your friends. Weird, CEO push button NFT's on paper with dividends straight into some privileged elite's pocket.

[kai22]

Taken in natural daylight…no photo manipulation. This photo is true to life.

[DB]

Dec 14, 2022 13:01:27 GMT 1 kai22 said:

Taken in natural daylight…no photo manipulation. This photo is true to life.

So now you have it in hand...

How does it compare to your expectations and to the product photos on Avant Arte and the live stream?

From the photo you took it looks like the nice neon pinks from the original painting are now darker red tones. Generally, doesn't compare to the tones and feel of the original imo.. which I'm gutted about.

Will hope that it's just camera trickery and when in hand it's as stunning as the original product images.

[Avant Arte]

As mentioned by some of you there seems to be a discrepancy between the Ayako print and the images on site. The images on our site were shot on location and do appear a bit brighter and more over-exposed than the original work and therefore the prints. We apologise for this and recognise it isn’t up to our usual standard.

As I mentioned before Ayako worked closely with our Master Printer Tom in London in the days after the live stream to create the best print for collectors to reflect the original work. For those who haven’t received their work yet I hope the photo’s below will show that it is a very bright and vibrant print. If you have already received the work and are concerned please do contact one of the team on [e-mail]

NOTE: Images below are shot in natural daylight on iPhone. I've taken ones with Parra and Sachs as well to offer some comparison to other prints that people might own. I will share some video's on our Discord server as well for those that would like to see more.

[lv40]

Just opened mine - I'm not at all disappointed. The colours are darker - not pastel -  but they are also strong and vibrant. Those ebay photos (sad to see flippers but hey ho, best those who actually want it, buy it) don't do it justice.  I think it's going to look fantastic on the wall. 

[qest]

Appreciate the responsiveness and also the candor (which in my experience is true to form for Avant), but it's concerning to hear you guys say this isn't up to your usual standard (which in my experience is first rate). What do you advise for those of us who haven't yet received a shipping notification, and what is suggested resolution?

[Avant Arte]

Dec 14, 2022 17:23:39 GMT 1 qest said:

Appreciate the responsiveness and also the candor (which in my experience is true to form for Avant), but it's concerning to hear you guys say this isn't up to your usual standard (which in my experience is first rate). What do you advise for those of us who haven't yet received a shipping notification, and what is suggested resolution?

Thank you for the kind words! Just to stress but it's not that the print isn't up to our standard, rather the images on our website are brighter and more over-exposed than our usual in-house photography. If you haven't gotten your print yet I would suggest to wait till it arrives to see for yourself. Once you have it in hand and still have concerns than you can always discuss options with our team via [e-mail]

[Wanchope]

Just received mine and the quality is excellent as is the packaging etc. Well done and I hope we don't have to read another post about the quality from those whom haven't even received it yet. Thank you and again for responding to the comments on this here forum. Very professional as always

[brockin123]

Dec 14, 2022 14:17:31 GMT 1 Avant Arte said:

As mentioned by some of you there seems to be a discrepancy between the Ayako print and the images on site. The images on our site were shot on location and do appear a bit brighter and more over-exposed than the original work and therefore the prints. We apologise for this and recognise it isn’t up to our usual standard.

As I mentioned before Ayako worked closely with our Master Printer Tom in London in the days after the live stream to create the best print for collectors to reflect the original work. For those who haven’t received their work yet I hope the photo’s below will show that it is a very bright and vibrant print. If you have already received the work and are concerned please do contact one of the team on [e-mail]

NOTE: Images below are shot in natural daylight on iPhone. I've taken ones with Parra and Sachs as well to offer some comparison to other prints that people might own. I will share some video's on our Discord server as well for those that would like to see more.

Anyway you can add a picture of the entire image?

[Avant Arte]

Dec 14, 2022 17:54:33 GMT 1 brockin123 said:

Anyway you can add a picture of the entire image?

It's dark here now so will share picture of full print in daylight tomorrow 

[Pawel]

Dec 14, 2022 14:17:31 GMT 1 Avant Arte said:

As mentioned by some of you there seems to be a discrepancy between the Ayako print and the images on site. The images on our site were shot on location and do appear a bit brighter and more over-exposed than the original work and therefore the prints. We apologise for this and recognise it isn’t up to our usual standard.

As I mentioned before Ayako worked closely with our Master Printer Tom in London in the days after the live stream to create the best print for collectors to reflect the original work. For those who haven’t received their work yet I hope the photo’s below will show that it is a very bright and vibrant print. If you have already received the work and are concerned please do contact one of the team on [e-mail]

NOTE: Images below are shot in natural daylight on iPhone. I've taken ones with Parra and Sachs as well to offer some comparison to other prints that people might own. I will share some video's on our Discord server as well for those that would like to see more.

Just convince Banksy to do a timed edition with you  and all is forgiven 

[The Origin]

Received mine today. It looks absolutely fantastic.

Have asked my framer to come and collect it ASAP.

Will post pictures when its ready for the wall.

[nobokov]

Dec 14, 2022 10:37:40 GMT 1 Reader said:

Dec 14, 2022 9:58:24 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

Just saw loads of these on eBay. This has to be the worse flip. These will be selling for cost in no time just like the Parla edition and same with Tom Sachs. These timed editions are only good for the wall.

Which ironically enough, is where they're suppossed to be :-), Someone's getting very wealthy by applying basic FOMO psychology and slick business practice to what used to be quite a charming ranshackle artist led "cottage industry" linking art to art lovers. Sad to see this massive and cynical hyper capitalistic expansion of the scene, which I've no doubt will end in tears for many. Some of the worse aspects of consumer capitalism at play, and off-set by nothing more than packaging and wrapped in "good customer service" by people pretending to be your friends. Weird, CEO push button NFT's on paper with dividends straight into some privileged elite's pocket.

Well said. Very good description. They've been really good salespersons over the past few years, surprisingly selling out many interesting, but overpriced editions to the rich and uninformed.

It's also a great marketing move to ask members to post about releases on this forum in exchange for promises of a future discount. Builds a connection that ropes people in to advocate for the company in hopes of receiving preferential treatment in the future.

It's a shame that AA as well as other companies like ExhibitionA, and ArtforChange have led the FOMO for editions, which has led to galleries setting ridiculous pricing for Original art.

[Poster Bob]

Dec 14, 2022 20:00:44 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Dec 14, 2022 10:37:40 GMT 1 Reader said:

Which ironically enough, is where they're suppossed to be :-), Someone's getting very wealthy by applying basic FOMO psychology and slick business practice to what used to be quite a charming ranshackle artist led "cottage industry" linking art to art lovers. Sad to see this massive and cynical hyper capitalistic expansion of the scene, which I've no doubt will end in tears for many. Some of the worse aspects of consumer capitalism at play, and off-set by nothing more than packaging and wrapped in "good customer service" by people pretending to be your friends. Weird, CEO push button NFT's on paper with dividends straight into some privileged elite's pocket.

Well said. Very good description. They've been really good salespersons over the past few years, surprisingly selling out many interesting, but overpriced editions to the rich and uninformed.

It's also a great marketing move to ask members to post about releases on this forum in exchange for promises of a future discount. Builds a connection that ropes people in to advocate for the company in hopes of receiving preferential treatment in the future.

It's a shame that AA as well as other companies like ExhibitionA, and ArtforChange have led the FOMO for editions, which has led to galleries setting ridiculous pricing for Original art.

And exactly how have they led the FOMO?

[nobokov]

By being great salespeople. Now who doesn't slober over a wooden crate, even if what's inside is only a piece of paper? I know I do. 

[Fuzzyduck121]

I’ve had to buy an electric screwdriver for all this AA lark

And I hate DIY

[Reader]

Dec 14, 2022 20:36:35 GMT 1 Poster Bob said:

Dec 14, 2022 20:00:44 GMT 1 nobokov said:

Well said. Very good description. They've been really good salespersons over the past few years, surprisingly selling out many interesting, but overpriced editions to the rich and uninformed.

It's also a great marketing move to ask members to post about releases on this forum in exchange for promises of a future discount. Builds a connection that ropes people in to advocate for the company in hopes of receiving preferential treatment in the future.

It's a shame that AA as well as other companies like ExhibitionA, and ArtforChange have led the FOMO for editions, which has led to galleries setting ridiculous pricing for Original art.

And exactly how have they led the FOMO?

Capitalised on it is perhaps a better term. You can hire a behavioural scientist or psychologist for your company tomorrow if you have the resources and tweak your online approach accordingly.

www.forbes.com/health/mind/the-psychology-behind-fomo/

[Avant Arte]

Dec 14, 2022 17:54:33 GMT 1 brockin123 said:

This is the full edition in daylight, hope it helps!

[Georgie Poppit]

This forum is fuelled by fomo. Like locusts eating their way through the art world leaving a trail of misery and destruction. At least that’s how I see it.

[tcb]

I do must say it's a tricky one to capture accurately.

I really like it. Colors are nice and vibrant.

2 photos with the same phone in the same lighting with just a slight different angle:

[tcb]

But the more important question: How are you going to frame it?

[DB]

I see that Avant have now updated the images on the product page. :/

Mine arrived and gotta be honest, I'm not feeling it.. really thought it was going to be lighter and have those neon flashes throughout

Not sure what to do with it but happy to let it go for retail or see if I can return it somehow as I doubt it'll make the wall in the nursery now.