Looking to buy: Paul Insect neon canvas.

[Devizes /\_/\]

Hi.
I’m looking for a Clockwork Britain neon canvas, if anyone can help it’ll be much appreciated.
I’ve seen one on Artsy in Texas but IMO it’s overpriced and they won’t accept my offer, unless any of you guys think it’s about right, price wise, currently, then Let me know!

Cheers, John.

[rjf76]

Yeah I personally think overpriced. Clockworks on paper are around £1500 - £2000 now and basically only difference is substrate but if it’s neon only you want, you may have to pay a premium…I’d have thought £4000 is nearer the mark.

[Devizes /\_/\]

Feb 27, 2022 18:52:54 GMT 1 rjf76 said:

Yeah I personally think overpriced. Clockworks on paper are around £1500 - £2000 now and basically only difference is substrate but if it’s neon only you want, you may have to pay a premium…I’d have thought £4000 is nearer the mark.

That sounds fairer to me, the yellow one on Artsy is just over £7k!

[rjf76]

Just my guess/opinion - I might be off! Ha ha

[Devizes /\_/\]

Feb 27, 2022 21:47:38 GMT 1 rjf76 said:

Just my guess/opinion - I might be off! Ha ha

Nahhh, you said… 🤣

[New Wave Dave]

That neon piece is at West Chelsea Gallery in Austin. TBH, it's an awesome piece and it was kind of what got me into this whole street art collecting scene after visiting that gallery a few months back while in Austin with family. That piece was way too rich for my blood but they've had it for awhile so I'm sure you could negotiate some deal (at one point Artsy even sent me a 1k discount offer on it).

The Art Consultant was kind enough to send me some info on it back in Nov 2021 when I enquired about it. Suggest reaching out to him directly. Might be able to get something going.
Good luck!

Info below:




Devin James
Art Consultant
West Chelsea Contemporary
[phone] | [phone]

[e-mail]
wcc.art



1009 W 6th St., #116, 78703

West Chelsea Contemporary
West Chelsea Contemporary
1009 West 6th Street
Suite 120
Austin, TX 78703
512-478-4440
www.wcc.art

Clockwork Britain (Neon Special)
Paul Insect
Clockwork Britain (Neon Special) (1/4), 2012
Screenprint with acrylic and spray paint on canvas
Signature: Signed, dated, inscribed and numbered in black ink on the reverse
27.75 x 20 in (70.48 x 50.80 cm)
$9,600.00
COA: This work comes with a certificate of Authenticity from West Chelsea Contemporary. ?Additional Info: English street artist Paul Insect's work has evolved from Victorian graphics to Dada-esque collage. There is a primitiveness to his sometimes aggressive subject matter partly disguised by the use of vibrant colors and an entertaining style. The artist often incorporates masked figures donned with the British flag backed in vibrant colors. His street style is a pertinent trademark that makes him instantly recognizable, and the present work is one of his most popular motifs. Insect held an exhibition at a disused sex shop in London's Kings Cross area in 2008 in partnership with Lazarides Gallery, which also represents Banksy.

[Devizes /\_/\]

Feb 28, 2022 2:33:27 GMT 1 New Wave Dave said:

That neon piece is at West Chelsea Gallery in Austin. TBH, it's an awesome piece and it was kind of what got me into this whole street art collecting scene after visiting that gallery a few months back while in Austin with family. That piece was way too rich for my blood but they've had it for awhile so I'm sure you could negotiate some deal (at one point Artsy even sent me a 1k discount offer on it).

The Art Consultant was kind enough to send me some info on it back in Nov 2021 when I enquired about it. Suggest reaching out to him directly. Might be able to get something going.
Good luck!

Info below:




Devin James
Art Consultant
West Chelsea Contemporary
[phone] | [phone]

[e-mail]
wcc.art



1009 W 6th St., #116, 78703

West Chelsea Contemporary
West Chelsea Contemporary
1009 West 6th Street
Suite 120
Austin, TX 78703
512-478-4440
www.wcc.art

Clockwork Britain (Neon Special)
Paul Insect
Clockwork Britain (Neon Special) (1/4), 2012
Screenprint with acrylic and spray paint on canvas
Signature: Signed, dated, inscribed and numbered in black ink on the reverse
27.75 x 20 in (70.48 x 50.80 cm)
$9,600.00
COA: This work comes with a certificate of Authenticity from West Chelsea Contemporary. ?Additional Info: English street artist Paul Insect's work has evolved from Victorian graphics to Dada-esque collage. There is a primitiveness to his sometimes aggressive subject matter partly disguised by the use of vibrant colors and an entertaining style. The artist often incorporates masked figures donned with the British flag backed in vibrant colors. His street style is a pertinent trademark that makes him instantly recognizable, and the present work is one of his most popular motifs. Insect held an exhibition at a disused sex shop in London's Kings Cross area in 2008 in partnership with Lazarides Gallery, which also represents Banksy.

Thanks Dave.

I bet it looks even better in person.
It also belonged to Dutch footballer (soccer if you’re from the states) Edgar Davids at some point.

John.

[Carl Cashman Art]

If you decide to go for a print version, I have 2 of the shangri la ones available.

[New Wave Dave]

Feb 28, 2022 9:43:02 GMT 1 Carl Cashman Art said:

If you decide to go for a print version, I have 2 of the shangri la ones available.

What are the Shangri La ones? I'm also interested in a Clockwork print or canvas.

[met]

Feb 28, 2022 2:33:27 GMT 1 New Wave Dave said:

That neon piece is at West Chelsea Gallery in Austin. TBH, it's an awesome piece and it was kind of what got me into this whole street art collecting scene after visiting that gallery a few months back while in Austin with family. That piece was way too rich for my blood but they've had it for awhile so I'm sure you could negotiate some deal (at one point Artsy even sent me a 1k discount offer on it).

The Art Consultant was kind enough to send me some info on it back in Nov 2021 when I enquired about it. Suggest reaching out to him directly. Might be able to get something going.
Good luck!

Info below:




Devin James
Art Consultant
West Chelsea Contemporary
[phone] | [phone]

[e-mail]
wcc.art



1009 W 6th St., #116, 78703

West Chelsea Contemporary
West Chelsea Contemporary
1009 West 6th Street
Suite 120
Austin, TX 78703
512-478-4440
www.wcc.art

Clockwork Britain (Neon Special)
Paul Insect
Clockwork Britain (Neon Special) (1/4), 2012
Screenprint with acrylic and spray paint on canvas
Signature: Signed, dated, inscribed and numbered in black ink on the reverse
27.75 x 20 in (70.48 x 50.80 cm)
$9,600.00
COA: This work comes with a certificate of Authenticity from West Chelsea Contemporary. ?
Additional Info: English street artist Paul Insect's work has evolved from Victorian graphics to Dada-esque collage. There is a primitiveness to his sometimes aggressive subject matter partly disguised by the use of vibrant colors and an entertaining style. The artist often incorporates masked figures donned with the British flag backed in vibrant colors. His street style is a pertinent trademark that makes him instantly recognizable, and the present work is one of his most popular motifs. Insect held an exhibition at a disused sex shop in London's Kings Cross area in 2008 in partnership with Lazarides Gallery, which also represents Banksy.

Be wary of accepting art advice from the individual(s) who wrote or proofread the above 'Additional Info' on Paul Insect.

That paragraph fluctuates from nonsense to word-salad to complete randomness. It reads like a carpet salesman just winging it after convincing themselves, "I should try art consulting. How hard can it be?"

One would have expected West Chelsea Contemporary at least to have noticed and made specific reference to the image being a fresh take by Insect on David Pelham's iconic book cover.

[Carl Cashman Art]

Feb 28, 2022 15:28:44 GMT 1 New Wave Dave said:

Feb 28, 2022 9:43:02 GMT 1 Carl Cashman Art said:

If you decide to go for a print version, I have 2 of the shangri la ones available.

What are the Shangri La ones? I'm also interested in a Clockwork print or canvas.

These 2 mate

www.prescriptionart.com/collections/paul-insect/products/paul-insect-clockwork-britain-glastonbury-2019-blue-edition

www.prescriptionart.com/collections/paul-insect/products/paul-insect-clockwork-britain-glastonbury-2019-red-edition

[New Wave Dave]

Mar 2, 2022 12:19:59 GMT 1 Carl Cashman Art said:

Feb 28, 2022 15:28:44 GMT 1 New Wave Dave said:

What are the Shangri La ones? I'm also interested in a Clockwork print or canvas.

These 2 mate

www.prescriptionart.com/collections/paul-insect/products/paul-insect-clockwork-britain-glastonbury-2019-blue-edition

www.prescriptionart.com/collections/paul-insect/products/paul-insect-clockwork-britain-glastonbury-2019-red-edition

Thanks! Only ever heard them referred to as Glastonbury version.

[Carl Cashman Art]

Mar 2, 2022 17:21:02 GMT 1 New Wave Dave said:

Mar 2, 2022 12:19:59 GMT 1 Carl Cashman Art said:

These 2 mate

www.prescriptionart.com/collections/paul-insect/products/paul-insect-clockwork-britain-glastonbury-2019-blue-edition

www.prescriptionart.com/collections/paul-insect/products/paul-insect-clockwork-britain-glastonbury-2019-red-edition

Thanks! Only ever heard them referred to as Glastonbury version.

Yeah my bad, they were sold in shangri las field.

[Devizes /\_/\]

Feb 28, 2022 22:22:51 GMT 1 met said:

Feb 28, 2022 2:33:27 GMT 1 New Wave Dave said:

That neon piece is at West Chelsea Gallery in Austin. TBH, it's an awesome piece and it was kind of what got me into this whole street art collecting scene after visiting that gallery a few months back while in Austin with family. That piece was way too rich for my blood but they've had it for awhile so I'm sure you could negotiate some deal (at one point Artsy even sent me a 1k discount offer on it).

The Art Consultant was kind enough to send me some info on it back in Nov 2021 when I enquired about it. Suggest reaching out to him directly. Might be able to get something going.
Good luck!

Info below:




Devin James
Art Consultant
West Chelsea Contemporary
[phone] | [phone]

[e-mail]
wcc.art



1009 W 6th St., #116, 78703

West Chelsea Contemporary
West Chelsea Contemporary
1009 West 6th Street
Suite 120
Austin, TX 78703
512-478-4440
www.wcc.art

Clockwork Britain (Neon Special)
Paul Insect
Clockwork Britain (Neon Special) (1/4), 2012
Screenprint with acrylic and spray paint on canvas
Signature: Signed, dated, inscribed and numbered in black ink on the reverse
27.75 x 20 in (70.48 x 50.80 cm)
$9,600.00
COA: This work comes with a certificate of Authenticity from West Chelsea Contemporary. ?
Additional Info: English street artist Paul Insect's work has evolved from Victorian graphics to Dada-esque collage. There is a primitiveness to his sometimes aggressive subject matter partly disguised by the use of vibrant colors and an entertaining style. The artist often incorporates masked figures donned with the British flag backed in vibrant colors. His street style is a pertinent trademark that makes him instantly recognizable, and the present work is one of his most popular motifs. Insect held an exhibition at a disused sex shop in London's Kings Cross area in 2008 in partnership with Lazarides Gallery, which also represents Banksy.

Be wary of accepting art advice from the individual(s) who wrote or proofread the above 'Additional Info' on Paul Insect.

That paragraph fluctuates from nonsense to word-salad to complete randomness. It reads like a carpet salesman just winging it after convincing themselves, "I should try art consulting. How hard can it be?"

One would have expected West Chelsea Contemporary at least to have noticed and made specific reference to the image being a fresh take by Insect on David Pelham's iconic book cover.

I’ll admit to being ignorant on the very origins of the image other than I know it was related to the clockwork orange, so thanks for the heads up, I thought I’d educate myself and by the book!

[18921892]

These are definitely worth collecting, I love mine.

[Devizes /\_/\]

Mar 12, 2022 1:13:14 GMT 1 18921892 said:

These are definitely worth collecting, I love mine.

Love that!

[devinwcc]

Hi Met, 

Thank you for your constructive criticism. Adding the note about David Pelham’s book cover is a great suggestion. It’s been passed along to the team responsible for writing the additional information sections. To admit a fault, I did not read through that particular tag -- just selected the piece and let it auto populate. And I see your perspective… the language used is a bit jargon laden and jumbled. 

Harsh words are to be expected on an Internet forum, and tbh I chuckled at the “carpet salesman” bit. Nonetheless, I would like to assert the West Chelsea Contemporary galleries maintain an excellent reputation across our Austin and New York locations. 

Any reader who would like additional information on this piece or our collection as a whole can reach me via email: [e-mail].

All the best, 

Devin

[met]

Apr 8, 2022 22:37:33 GMT 1 devinwcc said:

Hi Met,

Thank you for your constructive criticism. Adding the note about David Pelham’s book cover is a great suggestion. It’s been passed along to the team responsible for writing the additional information sections. To admit a fault, I did not read through that particular tag -- just selected the piece and let it auto populate. And I see your perspective… the language used is a bit jargon laden and jumbled.

Harsh words are to be expected on an Internet forum, and tbh I chuckled at the “carpet salesman” bit. Nonetheless, I would like to assert the West Chelsea Contemporary galleries maintain an excellent reputation across our Austin and New York locations.

Any reader who would like additional information on this piece or our collection as a whole can reach me via email: [e-mail].

All the best,

Devin

Cheers for the acknowledgement.

Your good-natured, composed tone was appreciated as well. It's a credit to your temperament.


[Of the character traits almost guaranteed to make others lose some respect for us, defensiveness, passive aggression, petulance and excessive belligerence would be among them. They're sadly pretty common, and often on display in responses to actual or perceived criticism.

We were recently witness to an example of this, in a thread which could serve as a case study on how not to react online*. Multiple shrill posts in rapid succession seemed to evidence an individual lacking both control over their emotions and a sense of proportion. One must also hope their reference to "Sub human Scum" was down to an ignorance of 20th century history. Because the alternative explanation (i.e. a knowing use of Untermensch-style terminology) would be just too obscene.]



Although the point of my initial post was already made, some elaboration may be helpful now that you (in your capacity as consultant and seller) have joined us:

Whether in the form of an Additional Info blurb or otherwise, text from your website or email communications does merit being checked over with care.

The rationale for such an approach is straightforward: Especially since the vast majority of your potential clients will have never met you, all of that text will in some way influence their impressions of you and the gallery — in terms of your perceived knowledge, competence, professionalism, and mindfulness, including attention to detail.

Bad drafting will of course reflect poorly on you. As will inaccurate or out-of-date information (like the assertion that Lazarides Gallery represents Banksy). They may, in turn, have a negative impact on client confidence and peace of mind.

With competition in the art market being so fierce, and reputation in the industry being all-important, it makes commercial sense to ensure that anything written by you (or by somebody else on the gallery's behalf) is, to the extent practicable, double or triple-checked and treated as if it were your calling card or an advertisement for the gallery.


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Side comment about your observation, "Harsh words are to be expected on an Internet forum":

From a general standpoint, we're in full agreement here. You've described a downside that frequently goes hand-in-hand with anonymity or relative anonymity on the internet.

But in case you were also suggesting the words I chose were harsher than what I'd say if we were chatting in person, that would be incorrect. Whether online, by telephone, or in their presence, I try to be candid with people (unless I've reason to believe they are unstable or lack normal levels of mental resilience).


While this is perhaps a minor point, the principle is important to me. There is a handful of rules I set for myself with regard to each of my posts on public forums. Among others, these rules include:

(i)  never writing anything I wouldn't say to somebody's face;

(ii)  never writing anything I'd likely feel embarrassed or ashamed about if it were read (immediately or 10 years from now) by family, friends, professional contacts, bosses or employees; and

(iii)  never deleting (or editing the substance of) any of my existing posts.


It is a self-imposed discipline which is aimed at pushing me. First, to think very carefully before posting (and, where appropriate, carry out suitable amounts of prior research), to try to make sure my comments are accurate, non-misleading, considered and even-handed. Second, to avoid behaviour that could be seen as cowardly or otherwise dishonourable.



On a separate note and as alluded to in the previous paragraph, I do make efforts to ensure my criticisms (whether severe or mild) are not unfair. They're mostly expressed in a wry, detached manner, without malice — akin to the kind of badgering a mate might receive if they showed up to the pub one evening with a bad haircut.


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