Gunny
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Gunny on May 20, 2022 9:36:09 GMT 1, It was a timed release. They want to sell as many as possible. And they sold a shitload. Cant see why they would want to create a banned list of clients from that. Heni do ban people.....
It was a timed release. They want to sell as many as possible. And they sold a shitload. Cant see why they would want to create a banned list of clients from that. Heni do ban people.....
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klyde
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by klyde on May 20, 2022 9:50:54 GMT 1, Well, I'll sleep easy on this.
Well, I'll sleep easy on this.
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Poster Bob
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Poster Bob on May 20, 2022 10:00:27 GMT 1, ALL GALLERIES ban people. Anyone thinking that asking for a refund, which they appear legally entitled to, won’t result in a banning, is delusional.
It was a timed release. They want to sell as many as possible. And they sold a shitload. Cant see why they would want to create a banned list of clients from that.
ALL GALLERIES ban people. Anyone thinking that asking for a refund, which they appear legally entitled to, won’t result in a banning, is delusional. It was a timed release. They want to sell as many as possible. And they sold a shitload. Cant see why they would want to create a banned list of clients from that.
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klyde
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by klyde on May 20, 2022 10:19:19 GMT 1, Right I think I'm done here.
Good luck with your purchases.
Right I think I'm done here.
Good luck with your purchases.
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J6507G
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by J6507G on May 20, 2022 12:31:49 GMT 1, My thoughts on this is the following..... the number of people asking for a refund will be huge by the time all is said and done. causing a drastic reduction on the total number of prints in circulation. Prices in 5 or so year could be very surprising (for those interested in monetary gain)
My thoughts on this is the following..... the number of people asking for a refund will be huge by the time all is said and done. causing a drastic reduction on the total number of prints in circulation. Prices in 5 or so year could be very surprising (for those interested in monetary gain)
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by jenko on May 20, 2022 12:36:22 GMT 1, Thought I'd have a little inquiry with a discord mod about the supposed shit list rather than just rumoring. Popping here for clarity, was already public btw.
Me: "Was wondering if you guys could put a few rumours to rest regarding those requesting Empress refunds being put on a blacklist for future Heni lotteries etc?"
Mod: "we have no additional information on this. We trust everyone to act in good faith."
Me: "To clarify, are you suggesting refunds are considered not good faith even in the circumstances?"
Mod: "Not suggesting that at all, there are perfectly good reasons for refunds" (Later edited to "Not at all, as long as the refunds are in good faith")
I think the clear takeaway is: Of course Heni have a blacklist, as previously said all galleries do. They reserve this for their own discretion as they are entitled to do. In contract law whenever you say "good-faith" you really mean 'whatever I can get away with' in the broadest possible interpretation.
I specified in my refund that I have purchased multiple items before, and intend to continue to do so as I think typically they're shit hot with releases. Will that fall under good faith? Who knows, but was still a no-brainer for me regardless.
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Thought I'd have a little inquiry with a discord mod about the supposed shit list rather than just rumoring. Popping here for clarity, was already public btw.
Me: "Was wondering if you guys could put a few rumours to rest regarding those requesting Empress refunds being put on a blacklist for future Heni lotteries etc?"
Mod: "we have no additional information on this. We trust everyone to act in good faith."
Me: "To clarify, are you suggesting refunds are considered not good faith even in the circumstances?"
Mod: "Not suggesting that at all, there are perfectly good reasons for refunds" (Later edited to "Not at all, as long as the refunds are in good faith")
I think the clear takeaway is: Of course Heni have a blacklist, as previously said all galleries do. They reserve this for their own discretion as they are entitled to do. In contract law whenever you say "good-faith" you really mean 'whatever I can get away with' in the broadest possible interpretation.
I specified in my refund that I have purchased multiple items before, and intend to continue to do so as I think typically they're shit hot with releases. Will that fall under good faith? Who knows, but was still a no-brainer for me regardless.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Pawel on May 20, 2022 12:48:38 GMT 1, While canceling an order is probably fine not sure about canceling one, then getting an NFT for to save a few $$$
While canceling an order is probably fine not sure about canceling one, then getting an NFT for to save a few $$$
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 20, 2022 13:11:35 GMT 1, My thoughts on this is the following..... the number of people asking for a refund will be huge by the time all is said and done. causing a drastic reduction on the total number of prints in circulation. Prices in 5 or so year could be very surprising (for those interested in monetary gain)
That's the headache for heni though. They can't reduce the number of prints in circulation as some have been sent out. I expect Heni will have to offload these in leviathan or auctions.
My thoughts on this is the following..... the number of people asking for a refund will be huge by the time all is said and done. causing a drastic reduction on the total number of prints in circulation. Prices in 5 or so year could be very surprising (for those interested in monetary gain) That's the headache for heni though. They can't reduce the number of prints in circulation as some have been sent out. I expect Heni will have to offload these in leviathan or auctions.
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Pawel
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Pawel on May 20, 2022 13:23:13 GMT 1, My thoughts on this is the following..... the number of people asking for a refund will be huge by the time all is said and done. causing a drastic reduction on the total number of prints in circulation. Prices in 5 or so year could be very surprising (for those interested in monetary gain) That's the headache for heni though. They can't reduce the number of prints in circulation as some have been sent out. I expect Heni will have to offload these in leviathan or auctions.
The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly)
My thoughts on this is the following..... the number of people asking for a refund will be huge by the time all is said and done. causing a drastic reduction on the total number of prints in circulation. Prices in 5 or so year could be very surprising (for those interested in monetary gain) That's the headache for heni though. They can't reduce the number of prints in circulation as some have been sent out. I expect Heni will have to offload these in leviathan or auctions. The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly)
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 20, 2022 13:30:20 GMT 1, That's the headache for heni though. They can't reduce the number of prints in circulation as some have been sent out. I expect Heni will have to offload these in leviathan or auctions. The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly)
The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands.
That's the headache for heni though. They can't reduce the number of prints in circulation as some have been sent out. I expect Heni will have to offload these in leviathan or auctions. The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly) The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Happy Shopper on May 20, 2022 13:34:32 GMT 1, The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly) The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. As crazy as it sounds, with the production issues they're having, I wonder if they might be relieved to reduce the edition size and send out little stickers to put over the old numbering!
The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly) The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. As crazy as it sounds, with the production issues they're having, I wonder if they might be relieved to reduce the edition size and send out little stickers to put over the old numbering!
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George Poppit
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by George Poppit on May 20, 2022 13:34:55 GMT 1, Why are so many people getting refunds? Is it purely because it didn't turn out to be the investment they hoped for?
Why are so many people getting refunds? Is it purely because it didn't turn out to be the investment they hoped for?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 20, 2022 13:37:00 GMT 1, The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. As crazy as it sounds, with the production issues they're having, I wonder if they might be relieved to reduce the edition size and send out little stickers to put over the old numbering!
Or some tipp-ex and a pen😂
The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. As crazy as it sounds, with the production issues they're having, I wonder if they might be relieved to reduce the edition size and send out little stickers to put over the old numbering! Or some tipp-ex and a pen😂
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 20, 2022 13:38:14 GMT 1, Why are so many people getting refunds? Is it purely because it didn't turn out to be the investment they hoped for?
You can get a refund and buy the deed for $2-$2.5k
Why are so many people getting refunds? Is it purely because it didn't turn out to be the investment they hoped for? You can get a refund and buy the deed for $2-$2.5k
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Poster Bob
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Poster Bob on May 20, 2022 13:53:52 GMT 1, You can get a refund and buy the deed for $2-$2.5k Yeah but you are then subject to the wildly fluctuating exchange rate for ETHs as well as the fluctuating gas fees and then there's the bridging fees to pay as well. It's going to cost you far more than just buying the deed. "Far more"? I think someone posted earlier in the thread that they only paid $30 in gas.
You can get a refund and buy the deed for $2-$2.5k Yeah but you are then subject to the wildly fluctuating exchange rate for ETHs as well as the fluctuating gas fees and then there's the bridging fees to pay as well. It's going to cost you far more than just buying the deed. "Far more"? I think someone posted earlier in the thread that they only paid $30 in gas.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by J6507G on May 20, 2022 14:46:36 GMT 1, I don't think all that many people will be asking for a refund, will they? I, for one, will not. I am used to delays in receiving prints etc. I'm currently waiting for about six pieces that I've ordered at various points in time; some going back over 6 months ago. It's just something you learn to live with.
It's not about the waiting time. It's about being able to save a considerable chunk of money. Ok to some it may not be classed as considerable but to the average working joe. To save 1 or 2k. Its significant.... no brained for me. Yes I do want the print to display. Yes I also want it as cheaply as possible. Does that make me a bad person or someone who would rather have the spare money to spend on my kids college fees etc. Each to their own I guess. But imo no 1 should feel bad for canceling a physical in order to save some money
I don't think all that many people will be asking for a refund, will they? I, for one, will not. I am used to delays in receiving prints etc. I'm currently waiting for about six pieces that I've ordered at various points in time; some going back over 6 months ago. It's just something you learn to live with. It's not about the waiting time. It's about being able to save a considerable chunk of money. Ok to some it may not be classed as considerable but to the average working joe. To save 1 or 2k. Its significant.... no brained for me. Yes I do want the print to display. Yes I also want it as cheaply as possible. Does that make me a bad person or someone who would rather have the spare money to spend on my kids college fees etc. Each to their own I guess. But imo no 1 should feel bad for canceling a physical in order to save some money
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 20, 2022 14:53:23 GMT 1, I don't think all that many people will be asking for a refund, will they? I, for one, will not. I am used to delays in receiving prints etc. I'm currently waiting for about six pieces that I've ordered at various points in time; some going back over 6 months ago. It's just something you learn to live with. It's not about the waiting time. It's about being able to save a considerable chunk of money. Ok to some it may not be classed as considerable but to the average working joe. To save 1 or 2k. Its significant.... no brained for me. Yes I do want the print to display. Yes I also want it as cheaply as possible. Does that make me a bad person or someone who would rather have the spare money to spend on my kids college fees etc. Each to their own I guess. But imo no 1 should feel bad for canceling a physical in order to save some money
It doesn't make you a bad person, it will just potentially make it much harder to have opportunities at purchasing oversubscribed art from Heni in the future
I don't think all that many people will be asking for a refund, will they? I, for one, will not. I am used to delays in receiving prints etc. I'm currently waiting for about six pieces that I've ordered at various points in time; some going back over 6 months ago. It's just something you learn to live with. It's not about the waiting time. It's about being able to save a considerable chunk of money. Ok to some it may not be classed as considerable but to the average working joe. To save 1 or 2k. Its significant.... no brained for me. Yes I do want the print to display. Yes I also want it as cheaply as possible. Does that make me a bad person or someone who would rather have the spare money to spend on my kids college fees etc. Each to their own I guess. But imo no 1 should feel bad for canceling a physical in order to save some money It doesn't make you a bad person, it will just potentially make it much harder to have opportunities at purchasing oversubscribed art from Heni in the future
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Poster Bob
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Poster Bob on May 20, 2022 15:16:36 GMT 1, I’d say impossible as opposed to much harder.
It's not about the waiting time. It's about being able to save a considerable chunk of money. Ok to some it may not be classed as considerable but to the average working joe. To save 1 or 2k. Its significant.... no brained for me. Yes I do want the print to display. Yes I also want it as cheaply as possible. Does that make me a bad person or someone who would rather have the spare money to spend on my kids college fees etc. Each to their own I guess. But imo no 1 should feel bad for canceling a physical in order to save some money It doesn't make you a bad person, it will just potentially make it much harder to have opportunities at purchasing oversubscribed art from Heni in the future
I’d say impossible as opposed to much harder. It's not about the waiting time. It's about being able to save a considerable chunk of money. Ok to some it may not be classed as considerable but to the average working joe. To save 1 or 2k. Its significant.... no brained for me. Yes I do want the print to display. Yes I also want it as cheaply as possible. Does that make me a bad person or someone who would rather have the spare money to spend on my kids college fees etc. Each to their own I guess. But imo no 1 should feel bad for canceling a physical in order to save some money It doesn't make you a bad person, it will just potentially make it much harder to have opportunities at purchasing oversubscribed art from Heni in the future
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Horatio Nelson on May 20, 2022 15:17:54 GMT 1, Thought I'd have a little inquiry with a discord mod about the supposed shit list rather than just rumoring. Popping here for clarity, was already public btw. Me: "Was wondering if you guys could put a few rumours to rest regarding those requesting Empress refunds being put on a blacklist for future Heni lotteries etc?" Mod: "we have no additional information on this. We trust everyone to act in good faith." Me: "To clarify, are you suggesting refunds are considered not good faith even in the circumstances?" Mod: "Not suggesting that at all, there are perfectly good reasons for refunds" (Later edited to "Not at all, as long as the refunds are in good faith") I think the clear takeaway is: Of course Heni have a blacklist, as previously said all galleries do. They reserve this for their own discretion as they are entitled to do. In contract law whenever you say "good-faith" you really mean 'whatever I can get away with' in the broadest possible interpretation. I specified in my refund that I have purchased multiple items before, and intend to continue to do so as I think typically they're shit hot with releases. Will that fall under good faith? Who knows, but was still a no-brainer for me regardless. End I don't think Heni will operate an outright blacklist that would stop people from being able to buy Heni releases in the future ever again. Not only are customers who cancel their orders perfectly entitled to do so as a matter of law, but there is a fair objective justification due to the 3 month delay that was announced (although in reality, I'm sure many would have been happy to wait that long, especially if NFT prices had mooned in the meantime). I don't think those customers will have any problems buying timed edition or similar from Heni in the future.
However.... Heni has every right to assess and vet customers who apply for the much more limited edition pieces (i.e. the Richter December 2020 releases which were in editions of 25), or even the Hirst/Richter editions of 75 or 100. They would have a very legitimate reason not to select such customers for more limited (and thus sought after) releases where they have a history of cancelling. Whilst it's fine for people to exercise their statutory rights to cancel, it's also fine for Heni to manage its release allocation in a way that minimises the chance of cancelled orders at some point down the line. Heni can pick whoever it wants to buy its limited edition releases, as can and do all galleries.
Thought I'd have a little inquiry with a discord mod about the supposed shit list rather than just rumoring. Popping here for clarity, was already public btw. Me: "Was wondering if you guys could put a few rumours to rest regarding those requesting Empress refunds being put on a blacklist for future Heni lotteries etc?" Mod: "we have no additional information on this. We trust everyone to act in good faith." Me: "To clarify, are you suggesting refunds are considered not good faith even in the circumstances?" Mod: "Not suggesting that at all, there are perfectly good reasons for refunds" (Later edited to "Not at all, as long as the refunds are in good faith") I think the clear takeaway is: Of course Heni have a blacklist, as previously said all galleries do. They reserve this for their own discretion as they are entitled to do. In contract law whenever you say "good-faith" you really mean 'whatever I can get away with' in the broadest possible interpretation. I specified in my refund that I have purchased multiple items before, and intend to continue to do so as I think typically they're shit hot with releases. Will that fall under good faith? Who knows, but was still a no-brainer for me regardless. End I don't think Heni will operate an outright blacklist that would stop people from being able to buy Heni releases in the future ever again. Not only are customers who cancel their orders perfectly entitled to do so as a matter of law, but there is a fair objective justification due to the 3 month delay that was announced (although in reality, I'm sure many would have been happy to wait that long, especially if NFT prices had mooned in the meantime). I don't think those customers will have any problems buying timed edition or similar from Heni in the future. However.... Heni has every right to assess and vet customers who apply for the much more limited edition pieces (i.e. the Richter December 2020 releases which were in editions of 25), or even the Hirst/Richter editions of 75 or 100. They would have a very legitimate reason not to select such customers for more limited (and thus sought after) releases where they have a history of cancelling. Whilst it's fine for people to exercise their statutory rights to cancel, it's also fine for Heni to manage its release allocation in a way that minimises the chance of cancelled orders at some point down the line. Heni can pick whoever it wants to buy its limited edition releases, as can and do all galleries.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Eton Groover on May 20, 2022 15:41:11 GMT 1, You can get a refund and buy the deed for $2-$2.5k Yeah but you are then subject to the wildly fluctuating exchange rate for ETHs as well as the fluctuating gas fees and then there's the bridging fees to pay as well. It's going to cost you far more than just buying the deed.
Crypto - the currency of the future, cutting out the middle man greedy bankers and all their associated costs 😂😂
You can get a refund and buy the deed for $2-$2.5k Yeah but you are then subject to the wildly fluctuating exchange rate for ETHs as well as the fluctuating gas fees and then there's the bridging fees to pay as well. It's going to cost you far more than just buying the deed. Crypto - the currency of the future, cutting out the middle man greedy bankers and all their associated costs 😂😂
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by mem70 on May 20, 2022 15:54:28 GMT 1, As another said on this thread, to save £1k is a big deal for most....and regarding the more rare releases, (The Elements, Aspects etc) I think the demand for these is so strong that even people I know who have spent 6 figure sums on repeat purchases from them don't get a look in. Not sure that buying an Empress or returning one would make any difference.
As another said on this thread, to save £1k is a big deal for most....and regarding the more rare releases, (The Elements, Aspects etc) I think the demand for these is so strong that even people I know who have spent 6 figure sums on repeat purchases from them don't get a look in. Not sure that buying an Empress or returning one would make any difference.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Poster Bob on May 20, 2022 15:59:02 GMT 1, "Far more"? I think someone posted earlier in the thread that they only paid $30 in gas. Yeah, but what about the payment in ETHs? You can work out how much the ETHs are going to cost you..and then 30 minutes later, it can be a markedly different exchange rate. It's not like you are able to pay in pounds or dollars. The cost of gas fees are the least of your worries. As shown by the earlier post, fees are easily ignored. Just the same as no one in the UK cares about a 5% import tax on art. It isn't free, but it isn't costly and in the grand scheme of things does not matter.
"Far more"? I think someone posted earlier in the thread that they only paid $30 in gas. Yeah, but what about the payment in ETHs? You can work out how much the ETHs are going to cost you..and then 30 minutes later, it can be a markedly different exchange rate. It's not like you are able to pay in pounds or dollars. The cost of gas fees are the least of your worries. As shown by the earlier post, fees are easily ignored. Just the same as no one in the UK cares about a 5% import tax on art. It isn't free, but it isn't costly and in the grand scheme of things does not matter.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by charliec2701 on May 20, 2022 16:00:06 GMT 1, The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly) The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands.
The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds.
I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to.
The edition size is not really set yet given some people won't exchange the NFTs for the prints (and end up with nothing if I understand it correctly) The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by J6507G on May 20, 2022 16:26:41 GMT 1, The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to.
So you have bought a set and vould potentially save heat 10k? And you wouldn't dream of going through the drama of requesting a refund. Which in reality is a quick email to heni.. anyway lucky you.
The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to. So you have bought a set and vould potentially save heat 10k? And you wouldn't dream of going through the drama of requesting a refund. Which in reality is a quick email to heni.. anyway lucky you.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on May 20, 2022 16:28:29 GMT 1, The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to.
Don't underestimate the numbers lurking within this forum. This place has made some shit 'artists' household names through hype and fomo and sold out tat that's been sat on the shelf for years within minutes due to a post here.
The edition number is set, as it's written on the prints. Maybe a few won't remember to exchange the deed, but refunds will be into the hundreds now, if not thousands. The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to. Don't underestimate the numbers lurking within this forum. This place has made some shit 'artists' household names through hype and fomo and sold out tat that's been sat on the shelf for years within minutes due to a post here.
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by charliec2701 on May 20, 2022 18:39:34 GMT 1, The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to. Don't underestimate the numbers lurking within this forum. This place has made some shit 'artists' household names through hype and fomo and sold out tat that's been sat on the shelf for years within minutes due to a post here.
The difference in this instance is that the vast majority of Damien Hirst buyers are not on this urban art website and I would estimate that most of those buyers haven’t a danny about the NFT value versus the physical whatsoever. All they know is they’ve a fabulous work of art en route in the not too distant future and are prepared to wait.
Totally agree though on the hype machine that is UAA for some artists, good and bad. They rise, they fall, they disappear and yet some still hype in the hope of a resurrection ?!?!
The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to. Don't underestimate the numbers lurking within this forum. This place has made some shit 'artists' household names through hype and fomo and sold out tat that's been sat on the shelf for years within minutes due to a post here. The difference in this instance is that the vast majority of Damien Hirst buyers are not on this urban art website and I would estimate that most of those buyers haven’t a danny about the NFT value versus the physical whatsoever. All they know is they’ve a fabulous work of art en route in the not too distant future and are prepared to wait. Totally agree though on the hype machine that is UAA for some artists, good and bad. They rise, they fall, they disappear and yet some still hype in the hope of a resurrection ?!?!
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charliec2701
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September 2014
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by charliec2701 on May 20, 2022 18:46:05 GMT 1, The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to. So you have bought a set and vould potentially save heat 10k? And you wouldn't dream of going through the drama of requesting a refund. Which in reality is a quick email to heni.. anyway lucky you.
But it’s not 10k in whichever currency you’re talking about once you’ve paid all the fees and VAT which most probably will be charged at the initial agreed purchase price.
Add to that the potential risk of being black balled and you’d be stupid to risk it for a biscuit.
I’ve purchased over the years 25-35 Heni pieces and these NFT’s are the only ones in negative equity. Even the physical Empresses are showing profit so why risk swapping down unless you’re a one hit wonder ?
The only people hyping refunding physicals for NFT’s are those on UAA who in the grand scheme of things are a small percentage of Empresses buyers so please forget the notion that hundreds if not thousands are requesting refunds. I for one have bought a set and wouldn’t dream of going through all the drama of requesting a refund only to then have to navigate the NFT process which for most Hirst art buyers is not something they are traditionally accustomed to. So you have bought a set and vould potentially save heat 10k? And you wouldn't dream of going through the drama of requesting a refund. Which in reality is a quick email to heni.. anyway lucky you. But it’s not 10k in whichever currency you’re talking about once you’ve paid all the fees and VAT which most probably will be charged at the initial agreed purchase price. Add to that the potential risk of being black balled and you’d be stupid to risk it for a biscuit. I’ve purchased over the years 25-35 Heni pieces and these NFT’s are the only ones in negative equity. Even the physical Empresses are showing profit so why risk swapping down unless you’re a one hit wonder ?
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by King and a Duck on May 24, 2022 15:35:21 GMT 1, Had an alert that my Theodora is arriving tomorrow (UK).
Had an alert that my Theodora is arriving tomorrow (UK).
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artlife11
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by artlife11 on May 24, 2022 17:28:00 GMT 1, Had an alert that my Theodora is arriving tomorrow (UK).
I did as well from DHL
Had an alert that my Theodora is arriving tomorrow (UK). I did as well from DHL
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Greyhound
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November 2010
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Damien Hirst H10 • The Empresses, by Greyhound on May 24, 2022 20:24:26 GMT 1, A mod on the Heni Discord mentioned "About 65% of orders have been fulfilled. We are also happy to say that it seems like the supply chain issues have been resolved." so fingers crossed mine will arrive soon too.
A mod on the Heni Discord mentioned "About 65% of orders have been fulfilled. We are also happy to say that it seems like the supply chain issues have been resolved." so fingers crossed mine will arrive soon too.
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