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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Icesay on Apr 26, 2022 20:53:56 GMT 1, Theyโll place them at Phillips and elsewhere without issue. Not a problem. Those asking for refunds now when there is such a difference between the NFT price and the current results on EBay are short-sighted. I think this will be a bit of a mess. They canโt change the edition size now so lots of refunds will mean that that they have lots of these sitting around in a warehouse somewhere. I guess they will sell them on leviathon . They wonโt be under any pressure to sell them though so I guess they could restrict supply. Did anyone get an NFT refund? I think thatโs a different kettle of fish. Might have got their fingers burnt with this one.
Of course they are, that's why they bought the nft not the physical. There was no intent to buy but an intent to sell/trade the asset. Nft's don't really work for art and the digital assets are too visible for much monkey business.
Theyโll place them at Phillips and elsewhere without issue. Not a problem. Those asking for refunds now when there is such a difference between the NFT price and the current results on EBay are short-sighted. I think this will be a bit of a mess. They canโt change the edition size now so lots of refunds will mean that that they have lots of these sitting around in a warehouse somewhere. I guess they will sell them on leviathon . They wonโt be under any pressure to sell them though so I guess they could restrict supply. Did anyone get an NFT refund? I think thatโs a different kettle of fish. Might have got their fingers burnt with this one. Of course they are, that's why they bought the nft not the physical. There was no intent to buy but an intent to sell/trade the asset. Nft's don't really work for art and the digital assets are too visible for much monkey business. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Horatio Nelson on Apr 26, 2022 20:58:03 GMT 1, They are such beautiful things.
Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals.
Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise.
They are such beautiful things.
Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals.
Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Poster Bob on Apr 26, 2022 21:00:00 GMT 1, Many of us bought NFTs because we donโt want to deal with storage issues.
Theyโll place them at Phillips and elsewhere without issue. Not a problem. Those asking for refunds now when there is such a difference between the NFT price and the current results on EBay are short-sighted. Of course they are, that's why they bought the nft not the physical. There was no intent to buy but an intent to sell/trade the asset. Nft's don't really work for art and the digital assets are too visible for much monkey business.
Many of us bought NFTs because we donโt want to deal with storage issues. Theyโll place them at Phillips and elsewhere without issue. Not a problem. Those asking for refunds now when there is such a difference between the NFT price and the current results on EBay are short-sighted. Of course they are, that's why they bought the nft not the physical. There was no intent to buy but an intent to sell/trade the asset. Nft's don't really work for art and the digital assets are too visible for much monkey business. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Poster Bob on Apr 26, 2022 21:02:42 GMT 1, I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling.
I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by concrete jungle on Apr 26, 2022 21:06:30 GMT 1, They are such beautiful things. Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals. Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise.
They are such beautiful things. Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals. Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise. 100% agree with this. Iโm still waiting for my physical version, and really have no interest in a refund. Bought to hang on the wall - there really is nothing from DH at this price point and size that comes close on secondary. Personally prefer the image over all the other recent Heni releases, whether they are โworthโ more or not. Iโve been collecting art long enough to know to buy what you like, not for financial gain. In the end if the money aspect is peoples primary purpose for purchase, youโll always win some and lose some - at least if you truly like the image you shouldnโt feel hard done by in either situationโฆโฆ. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 21:11:14 GMT 1, They are such beautiful things. Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals. Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise.
Would You not consider getting your money back on the physical and buying the NFT for $1000?
They are such beautiful things. Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals. Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise. Would You not consider getting your money back on the physical and buying the NFT for $1000? |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Terry Fuckwitt on Apr 26, 2022 21:13:56 GMT 1, I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling.
To be fair, by the time I would have got to my 1000th sticker, I would have just slapped in on the cardboard box packaging and be done with it.
I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling. To be fair, by the time I would have got to my 1000th sticker, I would have just slapped in on the cardboard box packaging and be done with it. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Foolsgold on Apr 26, 2022 21:34:06 GMT 1, They are such beautiful things. Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals. Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise. Would You not consider getting your money back on the physical and buying the NFT for $1000?
Is there an NFT available for close to $2000 ?
They are such beautiful things. Even if the NFT prices hit $1,000 and production were delayed by another 3-4 months, I wouldnโt care one bit. The NFT market is a volatile, funny creature driven occasionally by day traders and prices really do not correlate with real world value of the physicals. Once people start to see more of the physicals in person, or in photos in swanky interior designed settings, demand will rise. Would You not consider getting your money back on the physical and buying the NFT for $1000? Is there an NFT available for close to $2000 ? |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Lazy Jesus on Apr 26, 2022 21:34:41 GMT 1, Quick IT question, can you run the metamask chrome extension on a chromebook? I know you can't on an ipad, and my laptop is over 10yrs old and doing my head in, so i was hoping a cheap chromebook would do what i need.
I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one.
Quick IT question, can you run the metamask chrome extension on a chromebook? I know you can't on an ipad, and my laptop is over 10yrs old and doing my head in, so i was hoping a cheap chromebook would do what i need. Depending on what youโre looking to do have you looked into downloading and using the MetaMask app on your iPad? I prefer to use the app as itโs arguably more secure than a windows PC. I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by brule on Apr 26, 2022 21:37:08 GMT 1, Would You not consider getting your money back on the physical and buying the NFT for $1000? Is there an NFT available for close to $2000 ?
Floor is just shy of 1 ETH now -- closer to $3k.
Would You not consider getting your money back on the physical and buying the NFT for $1000? Is there an NFT available for close to $2000 ? Floor is just shy of 1 ETH now -- closer to $3k. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Apr 26, 2022 21:39:37 GMT 1, Quick IT question, can you run the metamask chrome extension on a chromebook? I know you can't on an ipad, and my laptop is over 10yrs old and doing my head in, so i was hoping a cheap chromebook would do what i need. Depending on what youโre looking to do have you looked into downloading and using the MetaMask app on your iPad? I prefer to use the app as itโs arguably more secure than a windows PC. ย I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one.
Thanks for your response. I use the app on my android phone, that allows me to view what i have in my wallet but for doing more complicated things i.e. Listing, burning etc. I need a laptop as far as i understand.
I'm not just looking at the Empresses nft, I've got a few others Ron English, JR, Currency, so i need reasonable access.
Quick IT question, can you run the metamask chrome extension on a chromebook? I know you can't on an ipad, and my laptop is over 10yrs old and doing my head in, so i was hoping a cheap chromebook would do what i need. Depending on what youโre looking to do have you looked into downloading and using the MetaMask app on your iPad? I prefer to use the app as itโs arguably more secure than a windows PC. ย I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one. Thanks for your response. I use the app on my android phone, that allows me to view what i have in my wallet but for doing more complicated things i.e. Listing, burning etc. I need a laptop as far as i understand. I'm not just looking at the Empresses nft, I've got a few others Ron English, JR, Currency, so i need reasonable access. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Lazy Jesus on Apr 26, 2022 21:48:20 GMT 1, Depending on what youโre looking to do have you looked into downloading and using the MetaMask app on your iPad? I prefer to use the app as itโs arguably more secure than a windows PC. I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one. Thanks for your response. I use the app on my android phone, that allows me to view what i have in my wallet but for doing more complicated things i.e. Listing, burning etc. I need a laptop as far as i understand.
Depending on what youโre looking to do have you looked into downloading and using the MetaMask app on your iPad? I prefer to use the app as itโs arguably more secure than a windows PC. I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one. Thanks for your response. I use the app on my android phone, that allows me to view what i have in my wallet but for doing more complicated things i.e. Listing, burning etc. I need a laptop as far as i understand. I use the MM app on my iPhone all the time and not had an issue. You can definitely list and buy on Opensea and mint from various websites. You just use the browser function within MM. It could be worth a try as many of the recent scams and alerts were based on issues with the chrome extension. Firefox extension is an alternative. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by liquidchild on Apr 26, 2022 22:44:03 GMT 1, Where is the best place to buy one of these?
Where is the best place to buy one of these?
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Blue on Apr 27, 2022 13:19:00 GMT 1, 
I'm sorry but that's an absolute piss-take... that will probably get worse with time as well.
If mine comes with a sticker stuck on like that, its going straight back
I'm sorry but that's an absolute piss-take... that will probably get worse with time as well. If mine comes with a sticker stuck on like that, its going straight back |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by The Italian One on Apr 27, 2022 13:28:45 GMT 1, From which reputable source? heard a lot asking for refund
1 of my friends plus at least 2 on the comments above
that to me makes a lot..
From which reputable source? heard a lot asking for refund 2 people I know .. 1 of my friends plus at least 2 on the comments above that to me makes a lot.. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by antony on Apr 27, 2022 18:12:17 GMT 1, I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling.
I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by gc91 on Apr 27, 2022 19:01:33 GMT 1, I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling.
NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why...
I think that what people should look at is the pathetically poor application of the sticker on the back. That is appalling. NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why... |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by vickyv on Apr 27, 2022 19:24:00 GMT 1, Depending on what youโre looking to do have you looked into downloading and using the MetaMask app on your iPad? I prefer to use the app as itโs arguably more secure than a windows PC. ย I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one. Thanks for your response. I use the app on my android phone, that allows me to view what i have in my wallet but for doing more complicated things i.e. Listing, burning etc. I need a laptop as far as i understand. I'm not just looking at the Empresses nft, I've got a few others Ron English, JR, Currency, so i need reasonable access.
I had The Currency and when it came to burning my nft to get the original, I thought I had to use my pc. Oddly enough it wouldnโt work - I couldnโt see any โburnโ button. Last resort, I looked at my phone (iPhone) and it was there - I went through both the purchase and the burn using my phone so you may find yours will work too and you donโt need to worry about a laptop.
Depending on what youโre looking to do have you looked into downloading and using the MetaMask app on your iPad? I prefer to use the app as itโs arguably more secure than a windows PC. ย I donโt own or use a chromebook so canโt help on that one. Thanks for your response. I use the app on my android phone, that allows me to view what i have in my wallet but for doing more complicated things i.e. Listing, burning etc. I need a laptop as far as i understand. I'm not just looking at the Empresses nft, I've got a few others Ron English, JR, Currency, so i need reasonable access. I had The Currency and when it came to burning my nft to get the original, I thought I had to use my pc. Oddly enough it wouldnโt work - I couldnโt see any โburnโ button. Last resort, I looked at my phone (iPhone) and it was there - I went through both the purchase and the burn using my phone so you may find yours will work too and you donโt need to worry about a laptop. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Charlie Bronson on Apr 27, 2022 19:26:09 GMT 1, NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why...
I may be way off, but my guess is that traditional art collectors donโt understand nfts, and the nft market is akin to day trading stocks. Someone who buys this piece at an art auction treats it as art; someone who is flipping this on the nft market treats it as a commodity, wanting to move on to the next hyped up nft, with no concern about losing a little bit of money.
NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why... I may be way off, but my guess is that traditional art collectors donโt understand nfts, and the nft market is akin to day trading stocks. Someone who buys this piece at an art auction treats it as art; someone who is flipping this on the nft market treats it as a commodity, wanting to move on to the next hyped up nft, with no concern about losing a little bit of money. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Icesay on Apr 27, 2022 20:04:40 GMT 1, NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why... I may be way off, but my guess is that traditional art collectors donโt understand nfts, and the nft market is akin to day trading stocks. Someone who buys this piece at an art auction treats it as art; someone who is flipping this on the nft market treats it as a commodity, wanting to move on to the next hyped up nft, with no concern about losing a little bit of money.
I think the important question is what does Hirst want to happen? Clearly interested in the future of nft's. I think I read he had 1000 of them? So presumably if the nft is worth less than the physical then the concept of the currency, is dead in the water. I don't buy the experiment bit because clearly art is physical and people's behaviour when a potential profit is possible, isn't art..... Its greed.
NFT world has not caught up yet though, I wonder why... I may be way off, but my guess is that traditional art collectors donโt understand nfts, and the nft market is akin to day trading stocks. Someone who buys this piece at an art auction treats it as art; someone who is flipping this on the nft market treats it as a commodity, wanting to move on to the next hyped up nft, with no concern about losing a little bit of money. I think the important question is what does Hirst want to happen? Clearly interested in the future of nft's. I think I read he had 1000 of them? So presumably if the nft is worth less than the physical then the concept of the currency, is dead in the water. I don't buy the experiment bit because clearly art is physical and people's behaviour when a potential profit is possible, isn't art..... Its greed. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Poster Bob on Apr 27, 2022 20:37:29 GMT 1, I donโt think you know what โa lotโ means.
From which reputable source? 2 people I know .. 1 of my friends plus at least 2 on the comments above that to me makes a lot..ย
I donโt think you know what โa lotโ means. From which reputable source? 2 people I know .. 1 of my friends plus at least 2 on the comments above that to me makes a lot..ย |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by mem70 on Apr 28, 2022 0:14:32 GMT 1, I've been refunded no problem.....sent Heni an email asking for refund under distance selling regulations....and as the dollar exchange rate is lower I have around ยฃ200 more than I paid. Now I just need to buy an NFT deed at a good priceโบ๏ธ Interesting. Obviously will effect final numbers. I wonder if Heni will take a dim view on people playing the system and put a red x against your details for future releases etc.
I've been refunded no problem.....sent Heni an email asking for refund under distance selling regulations....and as the dollar exchange rate is lower I have around ยฃ200 more than I paid. Now I just need to buy an NFT deed at a good priceโบ๏ธ Interesting. Obviously will effect final numbers. I wonder if Heni will take a dim view on people playing the system and put a red x against your details for future releases etc. That would be remarkably shortsighted of them as I am a strong buyer with them and others. Never felt the need to ask for a refund before but we are all entitled under distance selling regulations regardless of any delay...which was the reason for me, but TBH I'm not sure I even want one right now....got a lot of good art recently and a bit overspentโบ๏ธ |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by jfox789 on Apr 30, 2022 15:14:05 GMT 1, wow prices are way down. I want to buy one but think they will continue to fall.
wow prices are way down. I want to buy one but think they will continue to fall.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by artlife11 on Apr 30, 2022 15:40:22 GMT 1, wow prices are way down. I want to buy one but think they will continue to fall.
Thinking the same below $2k plus vat seems ridiculous. Heni seem to have got this one wrong
wow prices are way down. I want to buy one but think they will continue to fall. Thinking the same below $2k plus vat seems ridiculous. Heni seem to have got this one wrong |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by J0NNY on Apr 30, 2022 16:03:07 GMT 1, wow prices are way down. I want to buy one but think they will continue to fall. Thinking the same below $2k plus vat seems ridiculous. Heni seem to have got this one wrong
I think Heni did it right. They are not investment bankers but producers and sellers of art.
wow prices are way down. I want to buy one but think they will continue to fall. Thinking the same below $2k plus vat seems ridiculous. Heni seem to have got this one wrong I think Heni did it right. They are not investment bankers but producers and sellers of art. |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by cc13 on Apr 30, 2022 21:14:13 GMT 1, What does a sub-ยฃ2k NFT price equate to by the time you change it to a physical (which is effectively compulsory to avoid losing your stake)?
What does a sub-ยฃ2k NFT price equate to by the time you change it to a physical (which is effectively compulsory to avoid losing your stake)?
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by artsio on May 1, 2022 12:58:25 GMT 1, What does a sub-ยฃ2k NFT price equate to by the time you change it to a physical (which is effectively compulsory to avoid losing your stake)?
What does a sub-ยฃ2k NFT price equate to by the time you change it to a physical (which is effectively compulsory to avoid losing your stake)? Great question, what is the extra cost and time to receive the work after you burn the nft? I assume shipping costs, gas, taxes,... That might add up some 500GBPยฟ |
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by Greyhound on May 5, 2022 18:45:09 GMT 1, Has anyone on here had news of their physical shipping since Heni announced the delay? I'm wondering if the whole operation has stalled.
Has anyone on here had news of their physical shipping since Heni announced the delay? I'm wondering if the whole operation has stalled.
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Damien Hirst H10 โข The Empresses, by brule on May 6, 2022 4:14:40 GMT 1, Has anyone on here had news of their physical shipping since Heni announced the delay? I'm wondering if the whole operation has stalled.
Not really an answer to your question, but a mod on their discord said the redemption would open in around 2 months, which is sooner than the 3 months I had heard originally. Might be reading too much into it, but perhaps their supply chain is coming back to life sooner than feared.
Has anyone on here had news of their physical shipping since Heni announced the delay? I'm wondering if the whole operation has stalled. Not really an answer to your question, but a mod on their discord said the redemption would open in around 2 months, which is sooner than the 3 months I had heard originally. Might be reading too much into it, but perhaps their supply chain is coming back to life sooner than feared. |
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