Susumu Kamijo 🇯🇵 Print Release • Show News • Art For Sale

[sean1397]

Yep - that's me. I am just an idiot. And no this did not sell out presale but anyways you are welcome to say whatever you like. There were pieces that sold at the drop time (so it didn't sell out presale). Maybe the presale sold out....

Anyways you'd be less grumpy if it was sold! My comments are irrelevant. Im the idiot - remember. This should easily fetch $10K or $12k

[Tommy Tucker]

These aren’t fetching that much. I recently, within the last 2 weeks purchased one for a round half your top estimate.

[campfire headphase]

Check artsy. They likely have a few up there at various galleries.

Words words words words words words.

[Georgie Poppit]

Don’t have a Day Trippers but do have a canvas for sale if you’re interested

[Collector 444]

Dance For Me In The Dusk, 2021 selling at cost free shipping only opened to take pictures comes with all original Coa and box. Shipping from United States 

[collectr]

Susumu Kamijo: Prints

By the Sea or Hunting In Desert

I already own a beach lovers and not interested in sculptures

Please PM

[campfire headphase]

What about the new Susumu print Aliso did? Blackwood Gallery has one on Artsy for $15k.

[campfire headphase]

You say you saw this print sell for $17.5k. Does that mean you were a part of the transaction and can attest to the financials? Or do you mean that you saw one listed at that price but have no idea what it actually sold for after negotiations? I own 3 of these prints so trying to get a clear sense of value.

[Pawel]

Nov 24, 2022 17:10:12 GMT 1 campfire headphase said:

You say you saw this print sell for $17.5k. Does that mean you were a part of the transaction and can attest to the financials? Or do you mean that you saw one listed at that price but have no idea what it actually sold for after negotiations? I own 3 of these prints so trying to get a clear sense of value.

this was passed at auction last week: 
www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2022/contemporary-art-day/joyous-step

I hope that helps

[ca]

Nov 24, 2022 17:42:14 GMT 1 Pawel said:

Nov 24, 2022 17:10:12 GMT 1 campfire headphase said:

You say you saw this print sell for $17.5k. Does that mean you were a part of the transaction and can attest to the financials? Or do you mean that you saw one listed at that price but have no idea what it actually sold for after negotiations? I own 3 of these prints so trying to get a clear sense of value.

this was passed at auction last week: 
www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2022/contemporary-art-day/joyous-step

I hope that helps

Who would of thought the market for painted poodles would eventually dry up, crazy eh

[Georgie Poppit]

Funny how people focus on the negative. A Susumu painting sold for 10% over high estimate at Phillips NY last week.
Who would have thought the Banksy print market would tank as it has done!

[Sunny Garcia]

Susumu is a strong painter, and has good gallery representation. Large paintings are selling at primary over $100K. 🤷‍♂️

[Pawel]

Nov 24, 2022 19:07:22 GMT 1 Sunny Garcia said:

Susumu is a strong p noainter, and has good gallery representation. Large paintings are selling at primary over $100K. 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, kind f strange to see one passed and one sold fall 90 after fees.

[ca]

Ok I was talking shit, I can recognize he has talent but where does he grow from here when paintings are 100+ prints 5-10+ and that is based on mostly the same formula

[High Contrast]

Nov 24, 2022 19:01:10 GMT 1 Georgie Poppit said:

Funny how people focus on the negative. A Susumu painting sold for 10% over high estimate at Phillips NY last week.
Who would have thought the Banksy print market would tank as it has done!

Most people - 

chart it against any other blue chip market in the world…

I dare you 

[sean1397]

Jimini Cricket - Of course it has not sold..... But I've managed to get market advice and a recommendation for a psychiatrist.... But most importantly it was so underpriced no one thought it was legit and thus it did not sell... No chance it was listed too high. That never happens.

[clapped]

well since there is no record of sale let's start with a lower number

9k here

[campfire headphase]

Nov 25, 2022 6:39:13 GMT 1 clapped said:

well since there is no record of sale let's start with a lower number

9k here

Could you lift to $10k with quick payment for one?

[sean1397]

And down they come - while I was off visiting my new shrink it seems the poodle has fallen down a sliding board into a puddle.

[Coffee and Art]

Honestly forgot about this thread. Both works sold shortly after posting. Thank you for everyone's input!

Cheers

[Art is fun]

It’s insane how an artist will break their personal record and have continued growth before that. To then have these auction houses be like ‘hmmm if his last piece sold for that much, why don’t we say his next one is prolly only worth a fourth of that or better yet a eighth.’ The logic doesn’t make sense and in turn makes these rich rich millionaires question the artist and the piece. A 24 x 20 beautiful canvas of his new style just got posted on Sothebys for Auction next week. It has an estimate of 2,000-3,000$… A 24 x 20 canvas sold for 100k last year. I get the art market is done and inflation and so on. But the estimates of other artists I realized never wavered. It just didn’t make sense that despite his continued rise in auctions for hammer price. Why would they give him such low estimates of late? Who in the fook is deciding these horrible prices. Literally just keep the estimates high and nothing is effected. Lol y’all will get payed, Artist prices will rise, galleries will have more want. Just insane business and logic by these auction houses. 

[Art is fun]

A 65 inch Bozo Canvas just sold for $12,000 all because it didn’t have a reserve. Inflation is not killing the art market, it is these auction houses.

[cnrdvln]

which auction house was this?

[Art is fun]

Good ole Christie’s & Sotheby’s

[Pawel]

Dec 13, 2022 9:31:22 GMT 1 Art is fun said:

A 65 inch Bozo Canvas just sold for $12,000 all because it didn’t have a reserve. Inflation is not killing the art market, it is these auction houses.

75x65 sold for 75k 5 days ago. I'd be fuming if mine went for 12k

[Art is fun]

Ino all it takes is a freaking reserve and a decent estimate from the previous results lol such crappy jobs by these art houses. Literally they have some random front desk person who they just hired last week write these estimates in last second on a whim guess.

[rizza79]

the estimates go on recent market conditions and are in general lower. if anyone is manipulating the market it is not the auction houses, but the collectors who own loads of work that was bought from the studio before works were carefully filtered through certain galleries and certain auctions in order to generate hype and build a market that never existed. Susumu is only one case of this......there are many.

i actually look at these sort of estimates as an opportunity to purchase work from a good artist for a reasonable price. after all, everyone is just buying because they love the work, right : )

[Art is fun]

Ya I buy cuss I love his art but if what I payed for originals are now being slashed by auctions just by the estimate alone. Then in the end I took a loss on an Artist I love. Just doesn’t seem right considering how well he was doing. Even his latest print is 5,500$ retail from Aliso, but a 24 inch original is only worth 3,000$? Something seems off.

[Art is fun]

By the way a poodle sold on May 29th sold for $225,000. So I’m a little confused as to what u mean by a market that was never there. Also is not his highest result..

[Art is fun]

For example tho, under this same auction that is selling Kenny Schachter’s collection. The Susumu is 24 inches and estimated to be worth 2-3,000$ while a 24 inch Marcus Brutus is estimated to be worth 7-9,000$. So based on this auction house and its great employees that do such extensive research, they estimate Marcus should be worth 4 times what Susumu is worth. Someone please make it make sense. Cuss based on previous results the estimates should be switched. Even if we’re talking really recent, Susumu sold at auction for 88,000$ on November 16th, which had a legit correct estimate of 60-80,000$. The piece was 2 and a half times bigger then the 24 inch one but still based on this, the estimate should be around 25,000-30,000$. That would make everything perfectly acceptable.