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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by LJCal on Jun 7, 2021 22:46:46 GMT 1, Where are the members who are convinced his market goes up now ? I’d say that there will be another price rise at some point. Been around for long enough now to see this happen time and time again. There will be a ceiling, no doubt, but I’m of the opinion that there is still a bit to go yet. Time will tell. Do you own any artwork by Banksy? of course he doesn't which begs the question what he's doing on the Banksy forum?
Where are the members who are convinced his market goes up now ? I’d say that there will be another price rise at some point. Been around for long enough now to see this happen time and time again. There will be a ceiling, no doubt, but I’m of the opinion that there is still a bit to go yet. Time will tell. Do you own any artwork by Banksy? of course he doesn't which begs the question what he's doing on the Banksy forum?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by FЯ on Jun 7, 2021 23:31:07 GMT 1, ... all Choose Your Weapons were an edition of 25 for each colour ... ... except QJmp grey and any one off specials ... The is the standard grey edition of 100 Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more.
This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good.
... all Choose Your Weapons were an edition of 25 for each colour ... ... except QJmp grey and any one off specials ... The is the standard grey edition of 100 Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more. This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Charlie Bronson on Jun 7, 2021 23:45:48 GMT 1, The is the standard grey edition of 100 Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more. This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good.
Does anyone have confirmation as to whether this auction result was a grey /100 or colored /25?
The is the standard grey edition of 100 Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more. This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good. Does anyone have confirmation as to whether this auction result was a grey /100 or colored /25?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Stonetown on Jun 8, 2021 0:10:26 GMT 1, Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more. This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good. Does anyone have confirmation as to whether this auction result was a grey /100 or colored /25?
The auction result at the outset of this thread was for a pink ed of 25.
Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more. This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good. Does anyone have confirmation as to whether this auction result was a grey /100 or colored /25? The auction result at the outset of this thread was for a pink ed of 25.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Dexter Bulldog on Jun 8, 2021 0:11:56 GMT 1, Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more. This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good. Does anyone have confirmation as to whether this auction result was a grey /100 or colored /25? www.phillips.com/detail/banksy/HK010221/245?fromSearch=Banksy&searchPage=1 pink 8/25
Indeed. You cannot compare the other auction results quoted unless they are for the same edition of 100 - which i believe they were not, which is why they commanded more. This result if for the regular grey edition of 100 is very good, and if it had condition issues (not verified) then its super good. Does anyone have confirmation as to whether this auction result was a grey /100 or colored /25? www.phillips.com/detail/banksy/HK010221/245?fromSearch=Banksy&searchPage=1pink 8/25
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jonas B on Jun 8, 2021 11:00:32 GMT 1, Sale starts now
Sale starts now
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by theclash on Jun 8, 2021 11:18:59 GMT 1,
Emily Mae Smith, wow that is a result
Emily Mae Smith, wow that is a result
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jonas B on Jun 8, 2021 11:25:17 GMT 1, Loie Hollowell new record by the looks of it
Loie Hollowell new record by the looks of it
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by 18921892 on Jun 8, 2021 13:00:08 GMT 1, Great result on the Banksy Laugh Now approx £2.2 million. Many collectors have cashed out of prints to buy originals. Originals seem to be pushing forward while prints are holding. I think once you get to point of paying £200k for a print, that buyers at that level would rather pay a bit more and get an OG.
Great result on the Banksy Laugh Now approx £2.2 million. Many collectors have cashed out of prints to buy originals. Originals seem to be pushing forward while prints are holding. I think once you get to point of paying £200k for a print, that buyers at that level would rather pay a bit more and get an OG.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 13:25:25 GMT 1, Great result on the Banksy Laugh Now approx £2.2 million. Many collectors have cashed out of prints to buy originals. Originals seem to be pushing forward while prints are holding. I think once you get to point of paying £200k for a print, that buyers at that level would rather pay a bit more and get an OG.
How much more are the edition canvases now?
Thought they would be about double that..
Great result on the Banksy Laugh Now approx £2.2 million. Many collectors have cashed out of prints to buy originals. Originals seem to be pushing forward while prints are holding. I think once you get to point of paying £200k for a print, that buyers at that level would rather pay a bit more and get an OG. How much more are the edition canvases now? Thought they would be about double that..
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by 18921892 on Jun 8, 2021 13:33:47 GMT 1, Great result on the Banksy Laugh Now approx £2.2 million. Many collectors have cashed out of prints to buy originals. Originals seem to be pushing forward while prints are holding. I think once you get to point of paying £200k for a print, that buyers at that level would rather pay a bit more and get an OG. How much more are the edition canvases now? Thought they would be about double that.. They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, CYW, us/GWB or LIITA print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense.
Great result on the Banksy Laugh Now approx £2.2 million. Many collectors have cashed out of prints to buy originals. Originals seem to be pushing forward while prints are holding. I think once you get to point of paying £200k for a print, that buyers at that level would rather pay a bit more and get an OG. How much more are the edition canvases now? Thought they would be about double that.. They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, CYW, us/GWB or LIITA print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 13:40:16 GMT 1, How much more are the edition canvases now? Thought they would be about double that.. They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, Choose Your Weapon, us/Girl With Balloon or Love is in The Air print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense. 100% agree. Getting a canvas is a no brainier at £400k compared to a £200k print.
Print market is limited and flooded, the other has unlimited upside. You choose.
How much more are the edition canvases now? Thought they would be about double that.. They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, Choose Your Weapon, us/Girl With Balloon or Love is in The Air print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense. 100% agree. Getting a canvas is a no brainier at £400k compared to a £200k print. Print market is limited and flooded, the other has unlimited upside. You choose.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Graham H on Jun 8, 2021 13:57:55 GMT 1, Its difficult to keep up with the numerous Banksy auction pieces that appear to have popped up in recent auctions. Has the Crude Oil landscape gone through yet?
Does anyone have a definitive list for us all to watch?
They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, Choose Your Weapon, us/Girl With Balloon or Love is in The Air print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense. 100% agree. Getting a canvas is a no brainier at £400k compared to a £200k print. Print market is limited and flooded, the other has unlimited upside. You choose.
Its difficult to keep up with the numerous Banksy auction pieces that appear to have popped up in recent auctions. Has the Crude Oil landscape gone through yet? Does anyone have a definitive list for us all to watch? They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, Choose Your Weapon, us/Girl With Balloon or Love is in The Air print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense. 100% agree. Getting a canvas is a no brainier at £400k compared to a £200k print. Print market is limited and flooded, the other has unlimited upside. You choose.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by 18921892 on Jun 8, 2021 14:01:50 GMT 1, They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, Choose Your Weapon, us/Girl With Balloon or Love is in The Air print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense. 100% agree. Getting a canvas is a no brainier at £400k compared to a £200k print. Print market is limited and flooded, the other has unlimited upside. You choose. Forum auctions print sale this Thursday, should give us an idea of the current print market. Very few originals available or coming to auction sub £1million. Most of the well know Banksy dealers aren't openly selling originals so it's difficult to gauge the original market other than auction sales.
That being said there is a Stephen Munnery/Banksy quote piece with a low reserve at Sothebys. These traditionally have been the least expensive original available, I imagine because the text is by Munnery and not Banksy may have held these back to most informed Banksy collectors in the past, no image other than text and no Banksy tag or reference to the artist. IMO they are a good buy, they'll come with PC and Sothebys provenance and in years to come, I expect people will forget the Munnery connection altogether and only that it's a Banksy. Actually there is already no reference to Munnery, so his contribution is already forgotten. Anyone know if Munnery is mentioned on the PC certificate of these pieces?
They start around £450k if you can find one, I don't see any available. They seem to have dried up. My point is if you have 200k for a Nola, Choose Your Weapon, us/Girl With Balloon or Love is in The Air print, then I think many buyers with that type of money would rather get something a little more special and room for price growth and originals makes sense. 100% agree. Getting a canvas is a no brainier at £400k compared to a £200k print. Print market is limited and flooded, the other has unlimited upside. You choose. Forum auctions print sale this Thursday, should give us an idea of the current print market. Very few originals available or coming to auction sub £1million. Most of the well know Banksy dealers aren't openly selling originals so it's difficult to gauge the original market other than auction sales. That being said there is a Stephen Munnery/Banksy quote piece with a low reserve at Sothebys. These traditionally have been the least expensive original available, I imagine because the text is by Munnery and not Banksy may have held these back to most informed Banksy collectors in the past, no image other than text and no Banksy tag or reference to the artist. IMO they are a good buy, they'll come with PC and Sothebys provenance and in years to come, I expect people will forget the Munnery connection altogether and only that it's a Banksy. Actually there is already no reference to Munnery, so his contribution is already forgotten. Anyone know if Munnery is mentioned on the PC certificate of these pieces?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by kfroms on Jun 8, 2021 14:25:43 GMT 1, ”We’re really doing this because the seller was open to the idea of opening bidding to a new pool of potential buyers and therefore achieving a higher sale price as a result.” Well, that has not really worked, has it?
Sold at just a bit above the low estimate...
”We’re really doing this because the seller was open to the idea of opening bidding to a new pool of potential buyers and therefore achieving a higher sale price as a result.” Well, that has not really worked, has it? Sold at just a bit above the low estimate...
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Lazarus II on Jun 8, 2021 14:56:08 GMT 1, Munnery who ?
Munnery who ?
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Winchester on Jun 8, 2021 15:21:59 GMT 1, ”We’re really doing this because the seller was open to the idea of opening bidding to a new pool of potential buyers and therefore achieving a higher sale price as a result.” Well, that has not really worked, has it? Sold at just a bit above the low estimate...
No it didn't. I'm not surprised though, even a lot of people here claim it's only the print market that goes down, I also see a massive drop in his originals. It was very quiet here after the hessinks auctions for example, granted the rat didn't have a coa but it was an iconic, huge and well documented original.
The laugh now should have gone higher, especially as it's super limited and because of the option of paying with bitcoin. I think it was a attempt to boost Banksys worsening market, the Banksys piece was the only one on which bitcoin was accepted. bitcoin is on the way down too and really a lot of people want to get rid off it - so the theory was, that people spent their bitcoins on a Banksy, get a high sale price and everyone's happy. Didn't go well though.
”We’re really doing this because the seller was open to the idea of opening bidding to a new pool of potential buyers and therefore achieving a higher sale price as a result.” Well, that has not really worked, has it? Sold at just a bit above the low estimate... No it didn't. I'm not surprised though, even a lot of people here claim it's only the print market that goes down, I also see a massive drop in his originals. It was very quiet here after the hessinks auctions for example, granted the rat didn't have a coa but it was an iconic, huge and well documented original. The laugh now should have gone higher, especially as it's super limited and because of the option of paying with bitcoin. I think it was a attempt to boost Banksys worsening market, the Banksys piece was the only one on which bitcoin was accepted. bitcoin is on the way down too and really a lot of people want to get rid off it - so the theory was, that people spent their bitcoins on a Banksy, get a high sale price and everyone's happy. Didn't go well though.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Winchester on Jun 8, 2021 15:24:52 GMT 1, Where are the members who are convinced his market goes up now ? I’d say that there will be another price rise at some point. Been around for long enough now to see this happen time and time again. There will be a ceiling, no doubt, but I’m of the opinion that there is still a bit to go yet. Time will tell. Do you own any artwork by Banksy?
I own an unsigned print and some bits, nothing special though. And to be fair, seeing the drop at the moment makes me happy that I don't have more lol
Where are the members who are convinced his market goes up now ? I’d say that there will be another price rise at some point. Been around for long enough now to see this happen time and time again. There will be a ceiling, no doubt, but I’m of the opinion that there is still a bit to go yet. Time will tell. Do you own any artwork by Banksy? I own an unsigned print and some bits, nothing special though. And to be fair, seeing the drop at the moment makes me happy that I don't have more lol
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by fenderusastrat on Jun 8, 2021 17:24:48 GMT 1, No it didn't. I'm not surprised though, even a lot of people here claim it's only the print market that goes down, I also see a massive drop in his originals. It was very quiet here after the hessinks auctions for example, granted the rat didn't have a coa but it was an iconic, huge and well documented original. The laugh now should have gone higher, especially as it's super limited and because of the option of paying with bitcoin. I think it was a attempt to boost Banksys worsening market, the Banksys piece was the only one on which bitcoin was accepted. bitcoin is on the way down too and really a lot of people want to get rid off it - so the theory was, that people spent their bitcoins on a Banksy, get a high sale price and everyone's happy. Didn't go well though.
You mention the Hessinks auction, Winchester. What about the cardboard Love is in The Air that sold for 1M Euros? That piece was the only original in that auction that had a COA and it sold for 7 figures - for a not so big piece of cardboard with a stencil on it. Frankly I think this was cheap for an original Thrower (or Love is in The Air), and had it been with another auction house such as Sotheby's or Christie's it would've likely sold for much more. Hard to judge the original market for Banksy when taking account results from no name auction houses on street pieces that will never be issued a COA, regardless of how documented their authenticity may be.
No it didn't. I'm not surprised though, even a lot of people here claim it's only the print market that goes down, I also see a massive drop in his originals. It was very quiet here after the hessinks auctions for example, granted the rat didn't have a coa but it was an iconic, huge and well documented original. The laugh now should have gone higher, especially as it's super limited and because of the option of paying with bitcoin. I think it was a attempt to boost Banksys worsening market, the Banksys piece was the only one on which bitcoin was accepted. bitcoin is on the way down too and really a lot of people want to get rid off it - so the theory was, that people spent their bitcoins on a Banksy, get a high sale price and everyone's happy. Didn't go well though. You mention the Hessinks auction, Winchester. What about the cardboard Love is in The Air that sold for 1M Euros? That piece was the only original in that auction that had a COA and it sold for 7 figures - for a not so big piece of cardboard with a stencil on it. Frankly I think this was cheap for an original Thrower (or Love is in The Air), and had it been with another auction house such as Sotheby's or Christie's it would've likely sold for much more. Hard to judge the original market for Banksy when taking account results from no name auction houses on street pieces that will never be issued a COA, regardless of how documented their authenticity may be.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Winchester on Jun 8, 2021 18:14:24 GMT 1, No it didn't. I'm not surprised though, even a lot of people here claim it's only the print market that goes down, I also see a massive drop in his originals. It was very quiet here after the hessinks auctions for example, granted the rat didn't have a coa but it was an iconic, huge and well documented original. The laugh now should have gone higher, especially as it's super limited and because of the option of paying with bitcoin. I think it was a attempt to boost Banksys worsening market, the Banksys piece was the only one on which bitcoin was accepted. bitcoin is on the way down too and really a lot of people want to get rid off it - so the theory was, that people spent their bitcoins on a Banksy, get a high sale price and everyone's happy. Didn't go well though. You mention the Hessinks auction, Winchester. What about the cardboard Love is in The Air that sold for 1M Euros? That piece was the only original in that auction that had a COA and it sold for 7 figures - for a not so big piece of cardboard with a stencil on it. Frankly I think this was cheap for an original Thrower (or Love is in The Air), and had it been with another auction house such as Sotheby's or Christie's it would've likely sold for much more. Hard to judge the original market for Banksy when taking account results from no name auction houses on street pieces that will never be issued a COA, regardless of how documented their authenticity may be.
All Im saying is that people like to hype up results and seeing them as "good", even though they show a steady decline. "bad results are just being ignored and talked down. There are accusations of Banksy working together with Sotheby's with misdated pieces, there are more and more fakes coming up as Banksy doesn't owe up to who he is to secure his trademark, collectors are waiting for their paid COAs way too long How is it OK to take over 100 GBP for a COA and stop being in contact with the costumers for over a year? I think all this factors and many more will make the market drop more and more - for originals and prints.
No it didn't. I'm not surprised though, even a lot of people here claim it's only the print market that goes down, I also see a massive drop in his originals. It was very quiet here after the hessinks auctions for example, granted the rat didn't have a coa but it was an iconic, huge and well documented original. The laugh now should have gone higher, especially as it's super limited and because of the option of paying with bitcoin. I think it was a attempt to boost Banksys worsening market, the Banksys piece was the only one on which bitcoin was accepted. bitcoin is on the way down too and really a lot of people want to get rid off it - so the theory was, that people spent their bitcoins on a Banksy, get a high sale price and everyone's happy. Didn't go well though. You mention the Hessinks auction, Winchester. What about the cardboard Love is in The Air that sold for 1M Euros? That piece was the only original in that auction that had a COA and it sold for 7 figures - for a not so big piece of cardboard with a stencil on it. Frankly I think this was cheap for an original Thrower (or Love is in The Air), and had it been with another auction house such as Sotheby's or Christie's it would've likely sold for much more. Hard to judge the original market for Banksy when taking account results from no name auction houses on street pieces that will never be issued a COA, regardless of how documented their authenticity may be. All Im saying is that people like to hype up results and seeing them as "good", even though they show a steady decline. "bad results are just being ignored and talked down. There are accusations of Banksy working together with Sotheby's with misdated pieces, there are more and more fakes coming up as Banksy doesn't owe up to who he is to secure his trademark, collectors are waiting for their paid COAs way too long How is it OK to take over 100 GBP for a COA and stop being in contact with the costumers for over a year? I think all this factors and many more will make the market drop more and more - for originals and prints.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Knowss on Jun 8, 2021 19:37:42 GMT 1, You mention the Hessinks auction, Winchester. What about the cardboard Love is in The Air that sold for 1M Euros? That piece was the only original in that auction that had a COA and it sold for 7 figures - for a not so big piece of cardboard with a stencil on it. Frankly I think this was cheap for an original Thrower (or Love is in The Air), and had it been with another auction house such as Sotheby's or Christie's it would've likely sold for much more. Hard to judge the original market for Banksy when taking account results from no name auction houses on street pieces that will never be issued a COA, regardless of how documented their authenticity may be. All Im saying is that people like to hype up results and seeing them as "good", even though they show a steady decline. "bad results are just being ignored and talked down. There are accusations of Banksy working together with Sotheby's with misdated pieces, there are more and more fakes coming up as Banksy doesn't owe up to who he is to secure his trademark, collectors are waiting for their paid COAs way too long How is it OK to take over 100 GBP for a COA and stop being in contact with the costumers for over a year? I think all this factors and many more will make the market drop more and more - for originals and prints.
You are pretty annoying. Let things play out and that's it. Find a new hobby or something.
You mention the Hessinks auction, Winchester. What about the cardboard Love is in The Air that sold for 1M Euros? That piece was the only original in that auction that had a COA and it sold for 7 figures - for a not so big piece of cardboard with a stencil on it. Frankly I think this was cheap for an original Thrower (or Love is in The Air), and had it been with another auction house such as Sotheby's or Christie's it would've likely sold for much more. Hard to judge the original market for Banksy when taking account results from no name auction houses on street pieces that will never be issued a COA, regardless of how documented their authenticity may be. All Im saying is that people like to hype up results and seeing them as "good", even though they show a steady decline. "bad results are just being ignored and talked down. There are accusations of Banksy working together with Sotheby's with misdated pieces, there are more and more fakes coming up as Banksy doesn't owe up to who he is to secure his trademark, collectors are waiting for their paid COAs way too long How is it OK to take over 100 GBP for a COA and stop being in contact with the costumers for over a year? I think all this factors and many more will make the market drop more and more - for originals and prints. You are pretty annoying. Let things play out and that's it. Find a new hobby or something.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by JockoLad on Jun 8, 2021 20:52:18 GMT 1,
Can only think that this is a reference to ‘Simon’ Munnery.
Can only think that this is a reference to ‘Simon’ Munnery.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by 18921892 on Jun 8, 2021 21:24:38 GMT 1, I’d say that there will be another price rise at some point. Been around for long enough now to see this happen time and time again. There will be a ceiling, no doubt, but I’m of the opinion that there is still a bit to go yet. Time will tell. Do you own any artwork by Banksy? I own an unsigned print and some bits, nothing special though. And to be fair, seeing the drop at the moment makes me happy that I don't have more lol Hmm, not sure I believe anyone who says they are happy they don't have more Banksy prints.
I’d say that there will be another price rise at some point. Been around for long enough now to see this happen time and time again. There will be a ceiling, no doubt, but I’m of the opinion that there is still a bit to go yet. Time will tell. Do you own any artwork by Banksy? I own an unsigned print and some bits, nothing special though. And to be fair, seeing the drop at the moment makes me happy that I don't have more lol Hmm, not sure I believe anyone who says they are happy they don't have more Banksy prints.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Lazarus II on Jun 8, 2021 21:28:00 GMT 1, I own an unsigned print and some bits, nothing special though. And to be fair, seeing the drop at the moment makes me happy that I don't have more lol Hmm, not sure I believe anyone who says they are happy they don't have more Banksy prints. maybe someone who purchased a few last summer might not be too happy ? Anyone who bought more than 2 years ago is probably happy with their purchase if a financial return on their investmemt is what they seek primarily.
I own an unsigned print and some bits, nothing special though. And to be fair, seeing the drop at the moment makes me happy that I don't have more lol Hmm, not sure I believe anyone who says they are happy they don't have more Banksy prints. maybe someone who purchased a few last summer might not be too happy ? Anyone who bought more than 2 years ago is probably happy with their purchase if a financial return on their investmemt is what they seek primarily.
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18921892
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by 18921892 on Jun 8, 2021 21:49:30 GMT 1, Hmm, not sure I believe anyone who says they are happy they don't have more Banksy prints. maybe someone who purchased a few last summer might not be too happy ? Anyone who bought more than 2 years ago is probably happy with their purchase if a financial return on their investmemt is what they seek primarily. That's a fair point, although I think any purchase over a year ago would still feel like a good one at this point.
Hmm, not sure I believe anyone who says they are happy they don't have more Banksy prints. maybe someone who purchased a few last summer might not be too happy ? Anyone who bought more than 2 years ago is probably happy with their purchase if a financial return on their investmemt is what they seek primarily. That's a fair point, although I think any purchase over a year ago would still feel like a good one at this point.
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peas
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by peas on Jun 8, 2021 22:19:55 GMT 1, That being said there is a Stephen Munnery/Banksy quote piece with a low reserve at Sothebys. These traditionally have been the least expensive original available, I imagine because the text is by Munnery and not Banksy may have held these back to most informed Banksy collectors in the past, no image other than text and no Banksy tag or reference to the artist. IMO they are a good buy, they'll come with PC and Sothebys provenance and in years to come, I expect people will forget the Munnery connection altogether and only that it's a Banksy. Actually there is already no reference to Munnery, so his contribution is already forgotten. Anyone know if Munnery is mentioned on the PC certificate of these pieces? Munnery is definitely mentioned on some, though I suspect not all COA's for this series.
Seems Banksy, unlike the auction houses, certainly doesn't want people to forget Munnery's connection.
Oh, and it's Simon Munnery, not Stephen, btw.
That being said there is a Stephen Munnery/Banksy quote piece with a low reserve at Sothebys. These traditionally have been the least expensive original available, I imagine because the text is by Munnery and not Banksy may have held these back to most informed Banksy collectors in the past, no image other than text and no Banksy tag or reference to the artist. IMO they are a good buy, they'll come with PC and Sothebys provenance and in years to come, I expect people will forget the Munnery connection altogether and only that it's a Banksy. Actually there is already no reference to Munnery, so his contribution is already forgotten. Anyone know if Munnery is mentioned on the PC certificate of these pieces? Munnery is definitely mentioned on some, though I suspect not all COA's for this series.
Seems Banksy, unlike the auction houses, certainly doesn't want people to forget Munnery's connection.
Oh, and it's Simon Munnery, not Stephen, btw.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Gentle Mental on Jun 9, 2021 2:30:38 GMT 1, Ah Javier Calleja did alright. Over 1m euros - way above estimate. If he keeps this up he would be Nara’s money soon.
Time to beg Avante Arte for a buy invite?!
Ah Javier Calleja did alright. Over 1m euros - way above estimate. If he keeps this up he would be Nara’s money soon.
Time to beg Avante Arte for a buy invite?!
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jimini Cricket on Jun 9, 2021 2:34:17 GMT 1, Ah Javier Calleja did alright. Over 1m euros - way above estimate. If he keeps this up he would be Nara’s money soon. Time to beg Avante Arte for a buy invite?!
Wait for the sour grapes to comment. Everytime I post price observations, creepy crawlies emerge to defend their artists like Edgar Plans and Oli Epp. Even though the price facts speak for themselves, they still deny the truth and go on a crusade.
Having said that, Nara money is $10m. So not a chance.
Ah Javier Calleja did alright. Over 1m euros - way above estimate. If he keeps this up he would be Nara’s money soon. Time to beg Avante Arte for a buy invite?! Wait for the sour grapes to comment. Everytime I post price observations, creepy crawlies emerge to defend their artists like Edgar Plans and Oli Epp. Even though the price facts speak for themselves, they still deny the truth and go on a crusade. Having said that, Nara money is $10m. So not a chance.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Gentle Mental on Jun 9, 2021 2:47:39 GMT 1, Ah Javier Calleja did alright. Over 1m euros - way above estimate. If he keeps this up he would be Nara’s money soon. Time to beg Avante Arte for a buy invite?! Wait for the sour grapes to comment. Everytime I post price observations, creepy crawlies emerge to defend their artists like Edgar Plans and Oli Epp. Even though the price facts speak for themselves, they still deny the truth and go on a crusade. Having said that, Nara money is $10m. So not a chance.
None of the Naras at this auction hit 10m… not even 2m.. But they are mediocre Naras. But yes I agree glassy eye vs glassy eye - Nara beats Javier 10 to 1. At least.
Yet Javier’s rise in such short times is remarkable. If he keeps rising at this rate… who knows.
Ah Javier Calleja did alright. Over 1m euros - way above estimate. If he keeps this up he would be Nara’s money soon. Time to beg Avante Arte for a buy invite?! Wait for the sour grapes to comment. Everytime I post price observations, creepy crawlies emerge to defend their artists like Edgar Plans and Oli Epp. Even though the price facts speak for themselves, they still deny the truth and go on a crusade. Having said that, Nara money is $10m. So not a chance. None of the Naras at this auction hit 10m… not even 2m.. But they are mediocre Naras. But yes I agree glassy eye vs glassy eye - Nara beats Javier 10 to 1. At least. Yet Javier’s rise in such short times is remarkable. If he keeps rising at this rate… who knows.
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Phillips Art Auctions • New York, Hong Kong & London, by Jonas B on Jun 9, 2021 7:44:05 GMT 1, I still think Javier’s work looks like something a nine year old girl has done. Don’t get it all.
I still think Javier’s work looks like something a nine year old girl has done. Don’t get it all.
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