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Invader prints, by healer on Jul 2, 2021 2:51:33 GMT 1, Hey all! I just wanted to ask the community a question. I there a specific printing technique for the prints that invader produces? I see on the Versailles print that it appears that each time is raised. I am wanting to produce art work with the similar effect, I was just wondering how I would produce it/tell the press
Any help would be much appreciated
Hey all! I just wanted to ask the community a question. I there a specific printing technique for the prints that invader produces? I see on the Versailles print that it appears that each time is raised. I am wanting to produce art work with the similar effect, I was just wondering how I would produce it/tell the press
Any help would be much appreciated
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Invader prints, by yojoe007 on Jul 2, 2021 3:25:15 GMT 1, Hey all! I just wanted to ask the community a question. I there a specific printing technique for the prints that invader produces? I see on the Versailles print that it appears that each time is raised. I am wanting to produce art work with the similar effect, I was just wondering how I would produce it/tell the press Any help would be much appreciated
It's called embossing
Hey all! I just wanted to ask the community a question. I there a specific printing technique for the prints that invader produces? I see on the Versailles print that it appears that each time is raised. I am wanting to produce art work with the similar effect, I was just wondering how I would produce it/tell the press Any help would be much appreciated It's called embossing |
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Invader prints, by samo on Jul 2, 2021 3:36:40 GMT 1,
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Invader prints, by healer on Jul 2, 2021 4:06:44 GMT 1,
โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ absolute legend
โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ absolute legend |
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Invader prints, by healer on Jul 5, 2021 7:31:57 GMT 1, Ok so Iโve looked at this but how does he make the perfect lines and the print it directly in those squares
Ok so Iโve looked at this but how does he make the perfect lines and the print it directly in those squares
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Invader prints, by avec art on Jul 5, 2021 9:20:22 GMT 1, the embossing needs to be registered in the correct position above the screen print, but its not embossed using screens, but run through a press, normally one which is used for etching and between 'blankets', so not to damage the rollers of the press and to give a consistent pressure.
These are Rochat presses, over 100 years old and still serviced by the Rochat family.
the embossing needs to be registered in the correct position above the screen print, but its not embossed using screens, but run through a press, normally one which is used for etching and between 'blankets', so not to damage the rollers of the press and to give a consistent pressure. These are Rochat presses, over 100 years old and still serviced by the Rochat family. |
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Invader prints, by healer on Jul 5, 2021 9:43:03 GMT 1, the embossing needs to be registered in the correct position above the screen print, but its not embossed using screens, but run through a press, normally one which is used for etching and between 'blankets', so not to damage the rollers of the press and to give a consistent pressure. These are Rochat presses, over 100 years old and still serviced by the Rochat family.
Thankyou for the in-depth reply, is it an expensive process. I kind of boggles my mind the order in which the print would be done
the embossing needs to be registered in the correct position above the screen print, but its not embossed using screens, but run through a press, normally one which is used for etching and between 'blankets', so not to damage the rollers of the press and to give a consistent pressure. These are Rochat presses, over 100 years old and still serviced by the Rochat family. Thankyou for the in-depth reply, is it an expensive process. I kind of boggles my mind the order in which the print would be done |
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Invader prints, by healer on Jul 5, 2021 9:50:45 GMT 1, Would a specialised die need to be created?
Would a specialised die need to be created?
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Invader prints, by avec art on Jul 6, 2021 0:12:02 GMT 1, you don't need a specialist die. You can create the embossing plate pretty much from anything so long as it's flat enough and will go through the rollers. Heavyweight paper is suitable and gentle on the paper being printed on. Obviously there are limits as to how much detail is picked up and some designs will work better than others. It would be incredible to see what were used for the Invader prints at POW. There might be a photo knocking around somewhere, but I've never seen one.
As for registration, as with screen printing, there are a number of tricks and methods and it depends upon how precise you want to be.
you don't need a specialist die. You can create the embossing plate pretty much from anything so long as it's flat enough and will go through the rollers. Heavyweight paper is suitable and gentle on the paper being printed on. Obviously there are limits as to how much detail is picked up and some designs will work better than others. It would be incredible to see what were used for the Invader prints at POW. There might be a photo knocking around somewhere, but I've never seen one.
As for registration, as with screen printing, there are a number of tricks and methods and it depends upon how precise you want to be.
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Invader prints, by raphaelb on Jul 13, 2021 18:23:06 GMT 1, someone trying to make fakes by the smell of this thread...
someone trying to make fakes by the smell of this thread...
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Invader prints, by Ads Army on Jul 13, 2021 18:31:29 GMT 1, ...and we have some willing Santa Helpers :-))))
...and we have some willing Santa Helpers :-))))
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Invader prints, by avec art on Jul 13, 2021 18:44:46 GMT 1, I'd rather hear some conversation about artistic process than endless price analysis which has driven people away.
If someone was looking to try to recreate these from scratch before even understanding screen printing, they haven't got a chance. It takes years of practice and passion, and often the infrastructure of a relatively large team. This is for printing to a professional standard.
There is nothing I've talked about that if a scammer wanted to learn about can't be learnt in a million places, and it's hardly I'm giving step by step instruction. Ads Army have you any idea how many chemicals are used in this process?
I'd rather hear some conversation about artistic process than endless price analysis which has driven people away. If someone was looking to try to recreate these from scratch before even understanding screen printing, they haven't got a chance. It takes years of practice and passion, and often the infrastructure of a relatively large team. This is for printing to a professional standard. There is nothing I've talked about that if a scammer wanted to learn about can't be learnt in a million places, and it's hardly I'm giving step by step instruction. Ads Army have you any idea how many chemicals are used in this process? |
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Invader prints, by healer on Aug 18, 2021 6:59:36 GMT 1, Hahaha thanks for jumping to conclusions before even asking me. Im wanting to create prints from my own art using this technique or something similar to create the illusion of depth. Ass
Hahaha thanks for jumping to conclusions before even asking me. Im wanting to create prints from my own art using this technique or something similar to create the illusion of depth. Ass
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Invader prints, by avec art on Aug 18, 2021 10:12:42 GMT 1, don't worry about the trolls healer and well done for trying to meet or understand some of the challenges of this artistic method as they're not insignificant.
Embossing or de-bossing is not a secret process but a specialist process.
don't worry about the trolls healer and well done for trying to meet or understand some of the challenges of this artistic method as they're not insignificant. Embossing or de-bossing is not a secret process but a specialist process. |
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Invader prints, by healer on Aug 18, 2021 10:42:47 GMT 1, don't worry about the trolls healer and well done for trying to meet or understand some of the challenges of this artistic method as they're not insignificant. Embossing or de-bossing is not a secret process but a specialist process.
Thankyou @artcave and for taking the time to write such an in-depth reply.
Iโve managed to find a printing house here in New Zealand that can do this for me, but for it to be possible they need to custom make an embossing block out of Magnesium. Itโs quite a process but your words pointed me in the right direction 
don't worry about the trolls healer and well done for trying to meet or understand some of the challenges of this artistic method as they're not insignificant. Embossing or de-bossing is not a secret process but a specialist process. Thankyou @artcave and for taking the time to write such an in-depth reply. Iโve managed to find a printing house here in New Zealand that can do this for me, but for it to be possible they need to custom make an embossing block out of Magnesium. Itโs quite a process but your words pointed me in the right direction |
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