Roby Dwi Antono 🇲🇨 Print Release • Show News • For Sale

[stuckeyc]

Couldn't you cancel all orders and resend direct invoices to the VIP list?

[Deleted]

Apr 16, 2021 19:02:25 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 18:38:11 GMT 1 chomsky said:

"This special edition will be available this Saturday, April 17 at 10am Los Angeles / 1pm NYC via our web shop (link below). Please be sure to use Google to check the time in your area.e i
Please note there are NO pre-orders on our editions or requests for specific numbers."

NO pre-orders, but an advance list.....

I am sorry that somebody has to ruin it for other people, but I would gander to bet that just about every gallery and print shop has a VIP list and at times will share an advance link to. In this instance, we shared a link with some of our regular patrons that missed out on an original work from Roby back in February. We had so many that missed out, this was our way of helping to make it up to them by offering them access to a highly sought after print early. That really is how the art world works, and if it’s a newsflash to anyone here, I apologize. But that is reality.

I don’t think anyone would be surprised to hear that a VIP list existed or indeed that they had early access to a release. Explicitly stating that there are no pre-orders when that’s clearly not the case is pretty shitty tho.

[irl1]

Apr 16, 2021 19:07:48 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

If someone wants to share who posted it here, full name and all, happy to keep everyone else’s orders in place.

We will give it an hour’s time...

Life lesson time.

It wasn't me man, gimme a print man

[Jimini Cricket]

So what's the point of the e-mail that just went out? Is there going to be anything available?

[gmidd]

Apr 16, 2021 19:27:10 GMT 1 @ekap said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:02:25 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

I am sorry that somebody has to ruin it for other people, but I would gander to bet that just about every gallery and print shop has a VIP list and at times will share an advance link to. In this instance, we shared a link with some of our regular patrons that missed out on an original work from Roby back in February. We had so many that missed out, this was our way of helping to make it up to them by offering them access to a highly sought after print early. That really is how the art world works, and if it’s a newsflash to anyone here, I apologize. But that is reality.

I don’t think anyone would be surprised to hear that a VIP list existed or indeed that they had early access to a release. Explicitly stating that there are no pre-orders when that’s clearly not the case is pretty shitty tho.

I've bought a lot of prints from Thinkspace over the years and have always had good experiences, but I agree, explicitly stating that there are no preorders when they're taking pre-orders is pretty shitty. That gives the impression that the full edition will be available on release. And, with 150 pre-order emails having been sent and an edition of only 225 between both sizes it seems like there won't be many left at all for the general release.

[Thinkspace]

Apr 16, 2021 19:13:07 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:09:50 GMT 1 u%hdjfka c said:

It was a new account that posted for the first time. And now the user has deleted the account.

Yeah I saw that and then he deleted in true puss fashion.

Whatever... I tried to help 🤷🏻‍♂️

Letting it go... just bums us out. Never ever going to do this again and one of only time’s we’ve ever offered such an option. Each time it bit us in the ass.

Can’t be cool with anyone it seems...

All orders will be cool. Go support your local flipper.

[gmidd]

Apr 16, 2021 19:39:43 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:13:07 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Yeah I saw that and then he deleted in true puss fashion.

Whatever... I tried to help 🤷🏻‍♂️

Letting it go... just bums us out. Never ever going to do this again and one of only time’s we’ve ever offered such an option. Each time it bit us in the ass.

Can’t be cool with anyone it seems...

All orders will be cool. Go support your local flipper.

So does that mean no release tomorrow then?

[brockin123]

Apr 16, 2021 19:40:38 GMT 1 gmidd said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:39:43 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Letting it go... just bums us out. Never ever going to do this again and one of only time’s we’ve ever offered such an option. Each time it bit us in the ass.

Can’t be cool with anyone it seems...

All orders will be cool. Go support your local flipper.

So does that mean no release tomorrow then?

Wondering this as well.

Feel like it is penalizing those who were waiting and really wanted it.  Those that got a pre-order by accident/luck would understand the cancelation of their order.

[The Fool]

Apr 16, 2021 19:39:43 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:13:07 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Yeah I saw that and then he deleted in true puss fashion.

Whatever... I tried to help 🤷🏻‍♂️

Letting it go... just bums us out. Never ever going to do this again and one of only time’s we’ve ever offered such an option. Each time it bit us in the ass.

Can’t be cool with anyone it seems...

All orders will be cool. Go support your local flipper.

Glad to hear you're never going to do this again...*  We need more galleries being honest and not lying about the details of drops.

*I do not believe this though.

[acaipride]

Apr 16, 2021 19:39:43 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:13:07 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Yeah I saw that and then he deleted in true puss fashion.

Whatever... I tried to help 🤷🏻‍♂️

Letting it go... just bums us out. Never ever going to do this again and one of only time’s we’ve ever offered such an option. Each time it bit us in the ass.

Can’t be cool with anyone it seems...

All orders will be cool. Go support your local flipper.

All these known/unknown revelations just add tarnish to your brand. What ever brand it is.

There is a saying in portuguese that translates to, eat silently and not in front of the poor and hungry. (it is of bad taste)

Def put off by thinkspace now, joins the list with GP and Moosey, so over the "this is the art world"...man, be the change not the sheep.

[tab1]

The amount of gp drops here , people should be aware of these practices by now ?

[bilbo]

Apr 16, 2021 19:48:42 GMT 1 brockin123 said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:40:38 GMT 1 gmidd said:

So does that mean no release tomorrow then?

Wondering this as well.

Feel like it is penalizing those who were waiting and really wanted it.  Those that got a pre-order by accident/luck would understand the cancelation of their order.

Galleries do surprise drops all the time, surely anyone who saw that link isn’t going to or can be expected to wait until tomorrow??

[gmidd]

Apr 16, 2021 19:54:16 GMT 1 tab1 said:

The amount of gp drops here , people should be aware of these practices by now ?

Don't think anyone is surprised by galleries doing presales—hell, I think it's pretty much expected at this point—but to explicitly state in the release email, in red font nonetheless, that there are "NO pre-orders" while actively soliciting pre-orders comes across as a bit dishonest. They could've just left that part out of the email.

[gmidd]

Thinkspace may you please confirm if there will be a release tomorrow or not?

[tab1]

Apr 16, 2021 19:58:14 GMT 1 gmidd said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:54:16 GMT 1 tab1 said:

The amount of gp drops here , people should be aware of these practices by now ?

Don't think anyone is surprised by galleries doing presales—hell, I think it's pretty much expected at this point—but to explicitly state in the release email, in red font nonetheless, that there are "NO pre-orders" while actively soliciting pre-orders comes across as a bit dishonest. They could've just left that part out of the email.

again this is stated on gp drops but regular customers have early access.keeps the interest in the drop and good marketing to create hype, instant sell out creates the frenzy

[brockin123]

Apr 16, 2021 19:56:17 GMT 1 bilbo said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:48:42 GMT 1 brockin123 said:

Wondering this as well.

Feel like it is penalizing those who were waiting and really wanted it.  Those that got a pre-order by accident/luck would understand the cancelation of their order.

Galleries do surprise drops all the time, surely anyone who saw that link isn’t going to or can be expected to wait until tomorrow??

Fair, but those who have previously purchased from thinkspace or followed them knew that the release was tomorrow.

[stuckeyc]

Refund them. They will still have the chance to get one tomorrow during the regular drop. There will be way more unhappy customers if you honor the sales from today. Of the 225 total let's say 175 or so remain after VIP allotment. Then say 30% of those that bought today get one tomorrow. That leaves roughly 120 folks that feel like they got shafted if you refund them. I am sure there will be a lot more feeling hosed if you sold the entire edition before the sale that you announced to previous customers. My .02

[gmidd]

Apr 16, 2021 20:01:52 GMT 1 brockin123 said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:56:17 GMT 1 bilbo said:

Galleries do surprise drops all the time, surely anyone who saw that link isn’t going to or can be expected to wait until tomorrow??

Fair, but those who have previously purchased from thinkspace or followed them knew that the release was tomorrow.

Exactly. They just sent out an email 2 hours ago announcing the sale tomorrow. I actually saw this thread but didn't click on it initially because I figured it was just someone sharing info about the upcoming release.

[forcedtojoin]

Apr 16, 2021 20:17:52 GMT 1 @dmatt said:

Apr 16, 2021 20:07:42 GMT 1 stuckeyc said:

Refund them. They will still have the chance to get one tomorrow dur I'll ng the regular drop

Right! Give bots a chance for once!  

 
^^^ L O L 

[Deleted]

Apr 16, 2021 19:39:43 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 19:13:07 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Yeah I saw that and then he deleted in true puss fashion.

Whatever... I tried to help 🤷🏻‍♂️

Letting it go... just bums us out. Never ever going to do this again and one of only time’s we’ve ever offered such an option. Each time it bit us in the ass.

Can’t be cool with anyone it seems...

All orders will be cool. Go support your local flipper.

Everyone crying is a flipper.. they desperately try to unsettle galleries like spoilt brats who missed out on a £1000 quick profit.

Supply and stay loyal to your vip list. Fuck these whining, nobody, strangers.

Tell these whinging pricks to stick their transparency up there arse. Fucks it got to do with you how they run their business??

I don’t even know you guys, don’t have this print and have no concerns over not getting it, but don’t let this shit show of an art forum effect you or your decisions.

Yours truly - the king

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Please don't cancel orders. I bought 5 prints under different accounts. Tried for more, but unlucky for me they all sold out while tapping in my Grannies address.

[CREAM]

Apr 16, 2021 20:25:59 GMT 1 forcedtojoin said:

Apr 16, 2021 20:17:52 GMT 1 @dmatt said:

Right! Give bots a chance for once!  

 
^^^ L O L 

Right lol this actually gave regular people a chance to be honest. Either they just sold most of the edition to VIP and the rest would have been totally taken by bots with so few remaining or a bunch of people just scored right now with this more less random drop without using software or having to be a rich collector who can afford original pieces.

[clueless]

Unfortunate to see how this all played out but I'm assuming there won't be a drop tomorrow for remainders outside of the VIP purchases.

[Deleted]

Thinkspace is one of the fairest galleries I know, unlike our galleries in London who only sell to their VIPS and keep some of the prints and only put a fraction on the market.
My guess is that Ken and the others at Thinkspace won't do it again, i think the people who bought now will get the order. Thinkspace is not to blame, they can do what they want, it's their release. I got one of the OG without having been a customer before or having my contacts play. I 100% recommend Thinkspace and it's a shame some idiot took advantage of it and didn't play by the rules.

[Tom 8343]

Apr 16, 2021 20:00:36 GMT 1 gmidd said:

Thinkspace may you please confirm if there will be a release tomorrow or not?

I would like to know as well

[pdole]

Been waiting for this print for months. Hope there's still a drop tomorrow..

[Thinkspace]

Apr 16, 2021 21:15:51 GMT 1 Tom 8343 said:

Apr 16, 2021 20:00:36 GMT 1 gmidd said:

Thinkspace may you please confirm if there will be a release tomorrow or not?

I would like to know as well

Still happening. Roby knew about and loved we were going out of our way to hook up fans that missed out and kept prints out of the hands of those that only look to profit off his fans.

[Black Wolf]

Apr 16, 2021 22:08:38 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 21:15:51 GMT 1 Tom 8343 said:

I would like to know as well

Still happening. Roby knew about and loved we were going out of our way to hook up fans that missed out and kept prints out of the hands of those that only look to profit off his fans.

what time tomorrow?
thanks

[Tom 8343]

Ah that's great to know, thank you.

Hopefully I can get my hands on one.

[astbury]

But they didn't only go to people who missed out did they! Plenty went to those who already had an original.

Apr 16, 2021 22:08:38 GMT 1 Thinkspace said:

Apr 16, 2021 21:15:51 GMT 1 Tom 8343 said:

I would like to know as well

Still happening. Roby knew about and loved we were going out of our way to hook up fans that missed out and kept prints out of the hands of those that only look to profit off his fans.