[stuckeyc]

Banner on the store says it takes effect Friday. Thought some might want to know

[Lroy]

Dec 15, 2020 18:17:36 GMT 1 stuckeyc said:

Banner on the store says it takes effect Friday. Thought some might want to know

Why ? Because Brexit ?

[reg]

Only need to look at what is happening on Kent and Calais to figure out why.

Britain has no idea of its trading relationship or tariffs with the rest of the world after January 1st.

[slevin]

Obexit

[Balboa]

Dec 15, 2020 19:59:06 GMT 1 reg said:

Only need to look at what is happening on Kent and Calais to figure out why.

Britain has no idea of its trading relationship or tariffs with the rest of the world after January 1st.

Don't lump everyone in the same boat. I know exactly what's going on. It's literally all I've been doing at work for the past six months (well, that and looking at this forum). 

Payer responsibility for VAT on goods coming into the UK for shipments worth <£135 shifts from buyer to seller, as things stand, after January 1st. That's probably why he's stopped. 

[Happy Shopper]

Dec 15, 2020 20:45:36 GMT 1 Balboa said:

Payer responsibility for VAT on goods coming into the UK for shipments worth <£135 shifts from buyer to seller, as things stand, after January 1st. That's probably why he's stopped. 

Really? That’s the first I’ve heard of that. Do you have a link to more info?
How will we import anything!?

[irl1]

Dec 15, 2020 23:32:01 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

Dec 15, 2020 20:45:36 GMT 1 Balboa said:

Payer responsibility for VAT on goods coming into the UK for shipments worth <£135 shifts from buyer to seller, as things stand, after January 1st. That's probably why he's stopped. 

Really? That’s the first I’ve heard of that. Do you have a link to more info?
How will we import anything!?

Friday, December 18, is the final day for UK orders until further notice due to ongoing UK-EU negotiations resulting from Brexit. This change is temporary, and we hope to have updates soon!

[iamzero]

I was in an aquatic store last weekend to buy some marine livestock and was told the US has slapped an extra 33% tax on stuff being shipped through there. Stuff caught and shipped here has to land at Hawaii on the way and gets the levy added. The price of stuff is nuts right now.

[Balboa]

www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021

Dec 15, 2020 23:32:01 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

Dec 15, 2020 20:45:36 GMT 1 Balboa said:

Payer responsibility for VAT on goods coming into the UK for shipments worth <£135 shifts from buyer to seller, as things stand, after January 1st. That's probably why he's stopped. 

Really? That’s the first I’ve heard of that. Do you have a link to more info?
How will we import anything!?

[morgan]

Dec 15, 2020 23:51:55 GMT 1 iamzero said:

I was in an aquatic store last weekend to buy some marine livestock and was told the US has slapped an extra 33% tax on stuff being shipped through there. Stuff caught and shipped here has to land at Hawaii on the way and gets the levy added. The price of stuff is nuts right now.

I suppose when you are shopping for “marine livestock “ from around the globe you probably are financially sound

[robo]

It’s the Brexit dividend - feel the joy!

[Runit]

Bah. Who can cares... UK urban artists are waaaay superior to US artists so we can finally start focusing solely on our own.

(This is obviously a joke)

[iamzero]

Dec 16, 2020 9:56:25 GMT 1 morgan said:

Dec 15, 2020 23:51:55 GMT 1 iamzero said:

I was in an aquatic store last weekend to buy some marine livestock and was told the US has slapped an extra 33% tax on stuff being shipped through there. Stuff caught and shipped here has to land at Hawaii on the way and gets the levy added. The price of stuff is nuts right now.

I suppose when you are shopping for “marine livestock “ from around the globe you probably are financially sound

That might be stretching things a little but the reef I keep wouldn’t look as good if it was stocked with things from waters surrounding the U.K. Most stuff is Indo Pacific and has been tough on traders the last couple of years because of the ban on exports from certain places. Throw in the pandemic and the US being idiots with tariffs and prices are fast becoming unaffordable.

[Balboa]

Correct. It’s sub-£135. No change to anything over £135.

Dec 16, 2020 12:59:07 GMT 1 Mooncub said:

Dec 16, 2020 8:06:03 GMT 1 Balboa said:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021

Thanks for the link.  If I am reading it right then this new rule only applies to items worth less that £135. Let's face it, artworks are usually far more than that so it looks like the rules are unchanged for 99% of the art you may buy next year.  The document says...

"...if this is over £135 then normal VAT and customs rules will apply, meaning that import VAT will be chargeable and so supply VAT should not be charged at the point of sale."
 

[Balboa]

Dec 16, 2020 13:19:03 GMT 1 Balboa said:

Correct. It’s sub-£135. No change to anything over £135. Fairey does sell a fair amount of sub-£135 work.

Dec 16, 2020 12:59:07 GMT 1 Mooncub said:

Thanks for the link.  If I am reading it right then this new rule only applies to items worth less that £135. Let's face it, artworks are usually far more than that so it looks like the rules are unchanged for 99% of the art you may buy next year.  The document says...

"...if this is over £135 then normal VAT and customs rules will apply, meaning that import VAT will be chargeable and so supply VAT should not be charged at the point of sale."
 

[Happy Shopper]

Dec 16, 2020 8:06:03 GMT 1 Balboa said:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021

Dec 15, 2020 23:32:01 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

Really? That’s the first I’ve heard of that. Do you have a link to more info?
How will we import anything!?

Absolutely insane new rules, if I’m understanding correctly!?

What company/gallery outside the UK will want to go to the hassle of registering for paying UK VAT when they can just sell to the rest of the world instead!?
Buying prints, and the type of thing we do here is fucked in the UK!!

[Newar]

I think there is also some issue with goods coming from UK got 4 parcels stuck from different shop at airport (CDG FRANCE) for 3 weeks now.
or it's just an issue with french POSTSERVICE (one of the worst in the world )

[Jaylove]

Or you can be from Canada where literally everything is expensive due to our poor dollar and just high shipping and taxes. That said, still a great country so I guess it's worth it.

[irl1]

Dec 16, 2020 14:43:20 GMT 1 Jaylove said:

Or you can be from Canada where literally everything is expensive due to our poor dollar and just high shipping and taxes. That said, still a great country so I guess it's worth it.

Shipping prices in Ireland have tripled in the last 6 months.

So has the fucking rain 

[chrispa]

Thanks for posting this - I was totally unaware

So I wonder what happens if I buy a print £135+ from Europe in 2020 (so I paid VAT). but it ships in 2021...are they going to try and charge me import duty as well?

[irl1]

Dec 16, 2020 16:13:43 GMT 1 god’s ultimate noise said:

I just received the following message from my wine supplier in Italy...

"Dear customer, from 23 December 2020 it will no longer be possible to ship our Salento wines to England. Our couriers will need a period of rest in which the new regulations for the export of Italian products will be approved. So the conditions of sale and shipping in 2021 will change."

Ah well, at least we've got blue passports.

Fücking Brexit voting fücking morons.

No worries, FR will flip you a few bottles of D*Face whisky

[Happy Shopper]

Dec 16, 2020 16:45:50 GMT 1 @dmatt said:

People still don't understand how bonkers this idea of Brexit truly is.

But changing our import rules with the rest of the world too! This is really crazy!
Or do we have no choice once we’re outside the EU?!

[Jaylove]

Dec 16, 2020 14:46:23 GMT 1 irl1 said:

Dec 16, 2020 14:43:20 GMT 1 Jaylove said:

Or you can be from Canada where literally everything is expensive due to our poor dollar and just high shipping and taxes. That said, still a great country so I guess it's worth it.

Shipping prices in Ireland have tripled in the last 6 months.

So has the fucking rain 

Tripled?  Because of the pandemic?  That's wild.

[Jaylove]

Can someone explain Brexit to me in simple terms to a North American?

[nex]

Dec 17, 2020 14:46:08 GMT 1 Jaylove said:

Can someone explain Brexit to me in simple terms to a North American?

imagine a massive pile of shit, then imagine a fat red faced 55 yr old man jumping up and down in it, singing rule Britannia (with the wrong lyrics)

[antony]

Dec 17, 2020 14:46:08 GMT 1 Jaylove said:

Can someone explain Brexit to me in simple terms to a North American?

Great Britain is no longer part of Europe either for economic transactions and the movement of people, therefore reestablishing borders with what that implies

[iamzero]

Some people in the U.K. were angry because they thought they were being bullied with rules made by the European Union so they voted to leave. Imagine how angry they’ll be when they find out nothings changed.

[The Italian One]

Dec 17, 2020 14:46:08 GMT 1 Jaylove said:

Can someone explain Brexit to me in simple terms to a North American?

more or less looks like when I broke with my girlfriend ,
I still wanted to "sleep" with her she wanted too but not in the way I wanted!!!!

sooo just a Total mess!

joke a part
nobody knows yet!!

[mojo]

Dec 17, 2020 14:46:08 GMT 1 Jaylove said:

Can someone explain Brexit to me in simple terms to a North American?

It's a nationalistic xenophobic mirage created to enable the aristocracy and disaster capitalists to 'take back control' (mostly of fish ) whilst completely trashing the country, shorting the pound and protecting themselves from paying any tax on their enormous wealth.  Only half the country voted for it and still think its about being British and winning a war they were never part of.  

[nex]

Dec 17, 2020 15:08:47 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

Dec 17, 2020 14:46:08 GMT 1 Jaylove said:

Can someone explain Brexit to me in simple terms to a North American?

more or less looks like when I broke with my girlfriend ,
I still wanted to "sleep" with her she wanted too but not in the way I wanted!!!!

sooo just a Total mess!

joke a part
nobody knows yet!!

plenty of ppl know what's coming, but when you live in a country that denounces expertise in favour of jingoism you're fucked