Mason Storm 🇬🇧 New Print Release • Who is Mason Storm?

[Pete the Post]

Nice honest sales thread, pictures, price, All damage (past, present and future) explained well, youve done a fine job.

Sorry for your loss

[mojo]

So sorry to hear you were a victim of an online scam, hope you get your money back.
Since you are being so honest and much as I respect and like Bridget Riley's work if I were you I'd go for one of her older prints as to me the latest release looks like a logo for an organic yoghurt pot.

[sevrin]

Jun 20, 2024 15:47:44 GMT 1 mojo said:

So sorry to hear you were a victim of an online scam, hope you get your money back.
Since you are being so honest and much as I respect and like Bridget Riley's work if I were you I'd go for one of her older prints as to me the latest release looks like a logo for an organic yoghurt pot.

I have to agree with you on the Bridget Riley, first thing that came to mind was logo, the type you get on those generic 'design your own logo' websites, or maybe a 'Far East Airline', far from her best work imo.

[handy]

could make a nice fathers day present for someone?

[King and a Duck]

Jun 20, 2024 16:38:55 GMT 1 handy said:

could make a nice fathers day present for someone?

Ahahahaha!

[King and a Duck]

Jun 20, 2024 15:47:44 GMT 1 mojo said:

So sorry to hear you were a victim of an online scam, hope you get your money back.
Since you are being so honest and much as I respect and like Bridget Riley's work if I were you I'd go for one of her older prints as to me the latest release looks like a logo for an organic yoghurt pot.

YOGHURT to be kidding be! How you can be so unCULTURED is GREEK to me.

I don't disagree but I've sent my wife to have a look as I'm pretty sure they'll look great in person.

[mojo]

Jun 20, 2024 16:54:58 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

Jun 20, 2024 15:47:44 GMT 1 mojo said:

So sorry to hear you were a victim of an online scam, hope you get your money back.
Since you are being so honest and much as I respect and like Bridget Riley's work if I were you I'd go for one of her older prints as to me the latest release looks like a logo for an organic yoghurt pot.ha

YOGHURT to be kidding be! How you can be so unCULTURED is GREEK to me.

I don't disagree but I've sent my wife to have a look as I'm pretty sure they'll look great in person.

 Don't be getting all Crème fraîche with me
Hope your wife likes them (don't mention the yoghurt pot).

[King and a Duck]

Jun 20, 2024 17:02:51 GMT 1 mojo said:

Jun 20, 2024 16:54:58 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

YOGHURT to be kidding be! How you can be so unCULTURED is GREEK to me.

I don't disagree but I've sent my wife to have a look as I'm pretty sure they'll look great in person.

 Don't be getting all Crème fraîche with me
Hope your wife likes them (don't mention the yoghurt pot).

It's ok, she knows that Riley has really fruit cornered the market for youghurty prints.

[met]

Jun 20, 2024 14:27:52 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

We all know Mason Storm is an absolute embarrassment.

That said, would anyone like to buy my 1 of 25 edition of Toxic Beach (the balloon edition 🎈?)

It cost over £800 new but I’ll happily sell for less than cost. Please feel free to DM with your insulting offers. Feel free to also personally insult me for being sucked in by this shit. I’ll accept the least insulting offer as I’m trying to cobble some coins together for one of the new Bridget Riley pieces.

She looks far better in a Gucci gimp mask.

The print in question looks like this:


post picture

Mint condition. Never been framed. It looks absolutely brilliant (if derivative, coattail/riding art is your thing).

I’ll be honest, I made a terrible mistake buying it.

If you’d like to make a terrible mistake too, hit me up in the DMs.

Mason, if you’re reading this. Feel free to cough up. No one enjoys your art quite as much as you.

Yours,

Ashamed of London.

You deserve praise, along with a few rounds of complimentary pints, for the humour and candour of this post.



That said, I also hope the piece fails to resell (unless the resale is to Mason Storm himself, or if the print is bought by an altruist solely for the purpose of then destroying it).

There is no wider gain if another person simply repeats the same mistake you made.

The real value of your story derives from its potential as an ongoing reminder and cautionary tale — for the benefit of those who might still confuse Storm for an artist, or confuse Stowe Gallery for a reputable entity.


__________


The derivative nature of the edition has already been mentioned by you. But this aspect was obvious from the very outset.

And so, if you're willing to share, I would be interested to hear about what influenced you to make the original purchase. [It might give me and other members here a better understanding of how to draft caveat emptor posts which are more effective in the future.]

Was it that you just liked the image itself, finding it interesting at the time, regardless of the shortcomings?

Or are you perhaps among the many collectors who were misled by Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery — i.e. duped by these con artists into believing that some genuine professional relationship once existed between Storm and Banksy?

[King and a Duck]

Jun 21, 2024 15:04:20 GMT 1 met said:

The derivative nature of the edition has already been mentioned by you. But this aspect was obvious from the very outset.

And so, if you're willing to share, I would be interested to hear about what influenced you to make the original purchase. [It might give me and other members here a better understanding of how to draft caveat emptor posts which are more effective in the future.]

Was it that you just liked the image itself, finding it interesting at the time, regardless of the shortcomings?

Or are you perhaps among the many collectors who were misled by Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery — i.e. duped by these con artists into believing that some genuine professional relationship once existed between Storm and Banksy?

Was new on here at the time. Had recently had a bit of luck with the Banksy GDP sale (the cushions) so had a bit of hypothetical cash to throw at things.

There was a lot of chat around MS (Mason Storm, not multiple sclerosis - I don't want to be in receipt of either) and on the day of sale these flew off the shelves. I missed out on a cheap one. I should have left it there but instead I opted for one of the more limited (expensive) ones.

Whether or not he painted the Banksy originals, I really don't care. I genuinely find the whole thing (the art, the character of 'Mason Storm' and, as I say, the coattail-riding means of marketing embarrassing.

Warhol said, "Good business is the best art" and I'm sure Mason and Stowe have made good money over the years.

Warhol took what was mundane and made it art, MS takes art and makes it mundane.

In short, I din't do my due diligence.

[loui]

Jun 21, 2024 15:04:20 GMT 1 met said:

Jun 20, 2024 14:27:52 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

You deserve praise, along with a few rounds of complimentary pints, for the humour and candour of this post.

That said, I also hope the piece fails to resell (unless the resale is to Mason Storm himself, or if the print is bought by an altruist solely for the purpose of then destroying it).

There is no wider gain if another person simply repeats the same mistake you made.

The real value of your story derives from its potential as an ongoing reminder and cautionary tale — for the benefit of those who might still confuse Storm for an artist, or confuse Stowe Gallery for a reputable entity.


__________


The derivative nature of the edition has already been mentioned by you. But this aspect was obvious from the very outset.

And so, if you're willing to share, I would be interested to hear about what influenced you to make the original purchase. [It might give me and other members here a better understanding of how to draft caveat emptor posts which are more effective in the future.]

Was it that you just liked the image itself, finding it interesting at the time, regardless of the shortcomings?

Or are you perhaps among the many collectors who were misled by Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery — i.e. duped by these con artists into believing that some genuine professional relationship once existed between Storm and Banksy?

This is a joke right. I mean, pretty sure the man who wears the name Mason Storm buys his work of some artists in a Chinese town and sells them as his own, but Gerry Laffy is a reputable guy and him and the man who wears the name Mason seem to be getting along rather well.

[Masong]

I’m sort of intrigued to know what the best offer is that you’ve received is? Would be interesting to see just how bad all of it imploded once Stowe and Mason milked ever last drop out of a dry tittie..

[pottsy11]

Sorry to put this on your thread but does anybody have a link for the new Bridget Riley , can’t seem to find anything about it .
GLWYS too

[Pete the Post]

Jun 21, 2024 20:23:55 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

Jun 21, 2024 15:04:20 GMT 1 met said:

Warhol took what was mundane and made it art, MS takes art and makes it mundane.

Lol so easy, and yet so good! Did you steal that? 

If you lie, the real mason storm, government agent will turn up at your house. 

Mason storm will go down in the pointless postit notes of history as a name used by bad actors. 

[Razor light]

I’m lost with this thread what’s the deal with Mason Storm? 

[Jules Leotard]

Jun 21, 2024 15:04:20 GMT 1 met said:

Jun 20, 2024 14:27:52 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

We all know Mason Storm is an absolute embarrassment.

That said, would anyone like to buy my 1 of 25 edition of Toxic Beach (the balloon edition 🎈?)

It cost over £800 new but I’ll happily sell for less than cost. Please feel free to DM with your insulting offers. Feel free to also personally insult me for being sucked in by this shit. I’ll accept the least insulting offer as I’m trying to cobble some coins together for one of the new Bridget Riley pieces.

She looks far better in a Gucci gimp mask.

The print in question looks like this:


post picture

Mint condition. Never been framed. It looks absolutely brilliant (if derivative, coattail/riding art is your thing).

I’ll be honest, I made a terrible mistake buying it.

If you’d like to make a terrible mistake too, hit me up in the DMs.

Mason, if you’re reading this. Feel free to cough up. No one enjoys your art quite as much as you.

Yours,

Ashamed of London.

You deserve praise, along with a few rounds of complimentary pints, for the humour and candour of this post.



That said, I also hope the piece fails to resell (unless the resale is to Mason Storm himself, or if the print is bought by an altruist solely for the purpose of then destroying it).

There is no wider gain if another person simply repeats the same mistake you made.

The real value of your story derives from its potential as an ongoing reminder and cautionary tale — for the benefit of those who might still confuse Storm for an artist, or confuse Stowe Gallery for a reputable entity.


__________


The derivative nature of the edition has already been mentioned by you. But this aspect was obvious from the very outset.

And so, if you're willing to share, I would be interested to hear about what influenced you to make the original purchase. [It might give me and other members here a better understanding of how to draft caveat emptor posts which are more effective in the future.]

Was it that you just liked the image itself, finding it interesting at the time, regardless of the shortcomings?

Or are you perhaps among the many collectors who were misled by Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery — i.e. duped by these con artists into believing that some genuine professional relationship once existed between Storm and Banksy?

I shamelessly agree with EVERY SINGLE WORD (not reserved to this post) Met types except for his position on Gaza which he reserves for a separate UAA account, Brilliant people have blind spots too!

[King and a Duck]

Jun 21, 2024 22:21:59 GMT 1 Masong said:

I’m sort of intrigued to know what the best offer is that you’ve received is? Would be interesting to see just how bad all of it imploded once Stowe and Mason milked ever last drop out of a dry tittie..

No interest at all. 😂

[Acme Thunderer]

As an idea (not a joke)… how about setting up crowdfunding to ask us do pay £5/£10 each (for a £400 target?) for it to be permanently destroyed 🔥🔥🔥 and then video/share it.

I will happily pay £10 as long as we can make Mason aware what we think of it.

It’s the type of content that could go viral and I’m sure a platform like Ladbible (14 million followers) would use.

[King and a Duck]

Jun 22, 2024 8:34:47 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

As an idea (not a joke)… how about setting up crowdfunding to ask us do pay £5/£10 each (for a £400 target?) for it to be permanently destroyed 🔥🔥🔥 and then video/share it.

I will happily pay £10 as long as we can make Mason aware what we think of it.

It’s the type of content that could go viral and I’m sure a platform like Ladbible (14 million followers) would use.

Haha… I think the fact that we’re even discussing the idea is probably enough for MS and Stowe to realise we’re not interested anymore.

I’m not really after anyone’s money (unless they actually want the thing).

It currently sits up in my loft as a cautionary tale and is probably worth what I paid for it for that alone. I haven’t bought any SHIT since.

[King and a Duck]

At least he’s honest.

[Masong]

Jun 22, 2024 9:26:53 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

At least he’s honest.

Problem is it’s easily defended by Mason and Stowe by saying well we’ve never actually said he did paint them regardless of how much it was suggested. They must have made a fooking fortune out of it all. Would be interesting to know just how much was involved with all the prints they did. Anyway full respect for your honesty about it all, mase a lot of people chuckle for sure. I’m guessing there’s a lot of these under beds, in sheds or in lofts so you’re not alone.

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Jun 22, 2024 8:34:47 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

As an idea (not a joke)… how about setting up crowdfunding to ask us do pay £5/£10 each (for a £400 target?) for it to be permanently destroyed 🔥🔥🔥 and then video/share it.

I will happily pay £10 as long as we can make Mason aware what we think of it.

It’s the type of content that could go viral and I’m sure a platform like Ladbible (14 million followers) would use.

I was thinking the exact same thing after reading Met's post. Maybe the highest funder gets to choose the method of demise for the print 

[loui]

Jun 22, 2024 10:40:22 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

Jun 22, 2024 8:34:47 GMT 1 Acme Thunderer said:

As an idea (not a joke)… how about setting up crowdfunding to ask us do pay £5/£10 each (for a £400 target?) for it to be permanently destroyed 🔥🔥🔥 and then video/share it.

I will happily pay £10 as long as we can make Mason aware what we think of it.

It’s the type of content that could go viral and I’m sure a platform like Ladbible (14 million followers) would use.

I was thinking the exact same thing after reading Met's post. Maybe the highest funder gets to choose the method of demise for the print 

I think the man who wears the name Mason would be delighted. He couldn’t have begged for a better marketing trick.

[met]

Jun 21, 2024 20:23:55 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

Jun 21, 2024 15:04:20 GMT 1 met said:

The derivative nature of the edition has already been mentioned by you. But this aspect was obvious from the very outset.

And so, if you're willing to share, I would be interested to hear about what influenced you to make the original purchase. [It might give me and other members here a better understanding of how to draft caveat emptor posts which are more effective in the future.]

Was it that you just liked the image itself, finding it interesting at the time, regardless of the shortcomings?

Or are you perhaps among the many collectors who were misled by Mason Storm and Stowe Gallery — i.e. duped by these con artists into believing that some genuine professional relationship once existed between Storm and Banksy?

Was new on here at the time. Had recently had a bit of luck with the Banksy GDP sale (the cushions) so had a bit of hypothetical cash to throw at things.

There was a lot of chat around MS (Mason Storm, not multiple sclerosis - I don't want to be in receipt of either) and on the day of sale these flew off the shelves. I missed out on a cheap one. I should have left it there but instead I opted for one of the more limited (expensive) ones.

Whether or not he painted the Banksy originals, I really don't care. I genuinely find the whole thing (the art, the character of 'Mason Storm' and, as I say, the coattail-riding means of marketing embarrassing.

Warhol said, "Good business is the best art" and I'm sure Mason and Stowe have made good money over the years.

Warhol took what was mundane and made it art, MS takes art and makes it mundane.

In short, I din't do my due diligence.

Many thanks for the reply.



Regarding there having once been chat around Mason Storm, that's fair enough. People will naturally be drawn to what others are discussing and doing.

We are to a large extent herd animals. And, like lemmings jumping (or being pushed/thrown by Disney filmmakers) off a seaside cliff to their eventual demise, there can be a misplaced sense of security in numbers. In being part of a group.

If I see two or three commuters running towards a train on a platform, my reaction is to speed up my own pace — even if I know the train isn't scheduled to leave for another 10 minutes. Now, that is messed up. It's an instinct I keep needing to fight against.



However, no chat on this message board about Mason Storm has ever been one‑sided, as far as I'm aware.

Plenty of members, myself included, have called out Storm and Stowe Gallery (in particular Jamie Marchant from the gallery) for their lies and deceptive marketing. They take people for fools. And this attitude of contempt is unfortunate, especially when directed towards their own customers.

But perhaps the voices of criticism here just weren't loud enough during the release of Toxic Beach.


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For the purpose of this exchange, I'll sidestep the excellent last point you referred to:

The onus we all have to carry out our due diligence.

That is about agency, independence, holding ourselves accountable for our actions. And with the vast majority of collectors, I suspect such an onus is uncontroversial. Even as children, each of us knew we were responsible for doing our own homework.


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A separate issue I am more curious about is the influence and benefit (if any) of posts that criticise artwork.



When presented with art or artists that can, without unfairness, be deemed "bad", by reference to objective or semi‑objective criteria (e.g. works that are derivative, trite, mawkish, conceptually incoherent or vacuous, technically poor, etc.), I feel almost dutybound to my fellow collectors to take a public swipe. And even more so if a majority of other comments in the relevant thread is expressing praise.

I've done this rather frequently with the likes of Mason Storm, The Connor Brothers, Martin Whatson, Bambi, JJ Adams, Mr Brainwash, Alec Monopoly, and a handful of others I consider to be impostor artists and charlatans.

The financial value of their work will, in my amateur view, eventually self‑correct and align itself much more closely to that work's artistic value.

[I sense one possible exception could be Mr Brainwash, on the basis of his persona and charisma, but especially due to his connection with Banksy and starring role in Exit Through the Gift Shop. This is where the historical/cultural significance and associations of the artist may continue to be more consequential than the actual strength of his art. At least from a monetary perspective and in terms of ongoing collector interest.]



Quite often, I find myself repeating the same criticisms.

Although that is embarrassing to me, I am also conscious of the power of repetition, the fact some members only access this forum irregularly, and the stream of fresh members who are constantly joining (and for whom everything is still new).

But to the old guard and frequent visitors here, some of my posts will sound like a broken record. That has potential to become grating and unproductive. Or worse, counterproductive.

Given the above risks, and since the general idea is to be pursuasive, there is a degree of balance I try to keep in mind when thinking about knocking bad art:

   •   Remain silent for an easier life, or upset the apple cart, annoy fans and be vocal, in the hope that a dissenting comment might discourage somebody from making a purchase mistake?

   •   Simply share a negative opinion, or engage with the enthusiasts, perhaps by challenging them and asking what they find innovative or appealing about the work they intend to buy?

   •   When expressing a viewpoint, doing so in an earnest tone, or with humour (possibly including sarcasm or ridicule)?

   •   If looking to push others to think twice or thrice about the calibre of an artist, which tactic is more effective: (a) a one‑off, full‑on frontal assault, or (b) flanking, with occasional light jabs at the target over a prolonged period of time?

   •   Et cetera.


Thus far, what I've done over the years is take different approaches. Among the options available, inconsistency and variety seem the least boring to me. [That, and also taking regular breaks from the Urban Art Association, since I believe this forum can only ever be healthy when experienced in relatively small doses.]



At the same time, people often need to make their our own mistakes. We tend to learn faster that way.

One can't tell everyone, "Please go easy with the drinking; moderation is key."

Some of us just have to stumble over and break an elbow before we finally learn. Or have our wallet stolen during an alcohol-induced blackout. Or wake up one afternoon in a strange location, with an ass that now looks like the Japanese flag.



And so, if you've made it this far, King and a Duck, here is a follow‑up question relating to critical posts — and their helpfulness, or futility, to potential buyers:

Notwithstanding the due diligence failure you mentioned, do you believe you might at the time have chosen to not purchase the Mason Storm print, if more forum members had openly mocked that release?

[King and a Duck]

Jun 24, 2024 23:56:31 GMT 1 met said:

And so, if you've made it this far, King and a Duck , here is a follow‑up question relating to critical posts — and their helpfulness, or futility, to potential buyers:

Notwithstanding the due diligence failure you mentioned, do you believe you might at the time have chosen to not purchase the Mason Storm print, if more forum members had openly mocked that release?

Absolutely. Mock away please.

[Daniel Silk]

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[Daniel Silk]

Really interesting interview with Mason Storm.

[Daniel Silk]

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