[wave]

Nov 18, 2022 9:45:26 GMT 1 3D Monkey said:

I thought the same…..MS may (or may not) have undertaken Monkey Parliament as a commission, thus I see an alignment (even if it was probably done under NDA)WB is a genuine and good chap too, thus this a bit of a disappointment.

Yeah will second that about WB. Top guy.
He even hand-delivered a piece to my house once.
(Never met Mason Storm but i heard he’s a nice fella 👍)

[My Name is Frank]

Dear oh dear oh dear, it seems the riot cop is not the only one jumping on the back of something. Mason can can even take 'I cant believe you morons buy this shit' from the horses mouth

[Minecrafter]

I thought the show was called "Banksy Vs Bristol museum" , yet this piece is by war boutique ?
Makes me wonder how many pieces in there were actually by Banksy...

[bookends]

who says it was by war boutique ?  Banksy used a WB patch on the uniform. That is all

[Minecrafter]

Nov 18, 2022 16:21:51 GMT 1 bookends said:

who says it was by war boutique ?  Banksy used a WB patch on the uniform. That is all

Oh ok , wonder if Banksy then calls publicly for his supporters to rob masons house 🙄

[Daniel Silk]

Mason Storm proudly showing off a Riot Rider Sculpture from a limited Edition of 500.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClH3bR3IfLP

[kickarse]

There’s a lot of haters for mason but he’s actually a really nice guy and not up his own arse like some 

very talented guy 

baz 

[met]

Nov 14, 2022 0:43:24 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:39:18 GMT 1 Daniel Silk said:

Another interesting piece from Mason Storm.
Feels like he has a crowd of followers and collectors that keep a low profile 😉 people who appreciate his art, but don't feel they need to boast about it, to keep his values up.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck56TOyoWs3

There's no doubting his technical ability that's for sure. Maker up the 15 words now

Other members have previously posted similar statements on this forum about Mason Storm.

So I am curious as to what you mean, specifically, when referring to his "technical ability".



Is this comment based on some belief that the oils on canvas Storm applies his name to have actually been painted by him, by his own hand?

If so, I would argue you are making an unsafe assumption, allowing yourself (much too easily, in my view) to be fooled by a chancer. One who is talent-free, artistically. Yet admittedly rather gifted, as a coattail-riding parasite. And at duping and ripping off other people, including a number of collectors as well as art-world professionals.

[donnerz]

Finally, someone with sense posting reasoned rationale, a shame this is such a rarity on here of late.

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2022 18:41:21 GMT 1 met said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:43:24 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

There's no doubting his technical ability that's for sure. Maker up the 15 words now

Other members have previously posted similar statements on this forum about Mason Storm.

So I am curious as to what you mean, specifically, when referring to his "technical ability".



Is this comment based on some belief that the oils on canvas Storm applies his name to have actually been painted by him, by his own hand?

If so, I would argue you are making an unsafe assumption, allowing yourself (much too easily, in my view) to be fooled by a chancer. One who is talent-free, artistically. Yet admittedly rather gifted, as a coattail-riding parasite. And at duping and ripping off other people, including a number of collectors as well as art-world professionals.

Evening Met, I don't pretend to know anything about mason Storm, no reason for me to spend time learning anything about him, I don't focus on much aside from what's useful to me, so yes I made the kneejerk assumption the person claiming to have painted the picture actually did. As you've went to the trouble to highlight this I'm interested enough to know more, is someone else painting them, what? I had a further look and in hindsight it could be argued there's a painted in China element to them.

[Acme Thunderer]

Nov 19, 2022 18:41:21 GMT 1 met said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:43:24 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

There's no doubting his technical ability that's for sure. Maker up the 15 words now

Other members have previously posted similar statements on this forum about Mason Storm.

So I am curious as to what you mean, specifically, when referring to his "technical ability".



Is this comment based on some belief that the oils on canvas Storm applies his name to have actually been painted by him, by his own hand?

If so, I would argue you are making an unsafe assumption, allowing yourself (much too easily, in my view) to be fooled by a chancer. One who is talent-free, artistically. Yet admittedly rather gifted, as a coattail-riding parasite. And at duping and ripping off other people, including a number of collectors as well as art-world professionals.

‘a coattail-riding parasite’ is officially my favourite and the most accurate description of Mason Storm. Bravo Met. 🙌

[met]

Nov 19, 2022 18:58:52 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

Nov 19, 2022 18:41:21 GMT 1 met said:

Nov 14, 2022 0:43:24 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

There's no doubting his technical ability that's for sure. Maker up the 15 words now

Other members have previously posted similar statements on this forum about Mason Storm.

So I am curious as to what you mean, specifically, when referring to his "technical ability".



Is this comment based on some belief that the oils on canvas Storm applies his name to have actually been painted by him, by his own hand?

If so, I would argue you are making an unsafe assumption, allowing yourself (much too easily, in my view) to be fooled by a chancer. One who is talent-free, artistically. Yet admittedly rather gifted, as a coattail-riding parasite. And at duping and ripping off other people, including a number of collectors as well as art-world professionals.

Evening Met, I don't pretend to know anything about mason Storm, no reason for me to spend time learning anything about him, I don't focus on much aside from what's useful to me, so yes I made the kneejerk assumption the person claiming to have painted the picture actually did. As you've went to the trouble to highlight this I'm interested enough to know more, is someone else painting them, what? I had a further look and in hindsight it could be argued there's a painted in China element to them.

And a good evening to you, @castlegalleryltd. Cheers for the reply.

Since I myself always aspire to being unflappable, other individuals who remain calm under fire will often command my immediate (sometimes begrudging) respect.



It may necessitate a few months but, at some point in the future, I'll do a lengthy case study on the charlatan that is Mason Storm.

This will include a straightforward and hopefully bulletproof explanation as to why, objectively, it is ridiculous to believe Storm has any direct connection with Banksy or had anything whatsoever to do with the painting of Question Time / Monkey Parliament / Devolved Parliament.



Sorry to put the matter annoyingly on hold for the time being.

It is one that requires the collating of persuasive evidence. As well as a proper, thoughtful response. And thinking now takes me far longer than it used to.

[Deleted]

Nov 19, 2022 19:56:11 GMT 1 met said:

Nov 19, 2022 18:58:52 GMT 1 @castlegalleryltd said:

Evening Met, I don't pretend to know anything about mason Storm, no reason for me to spend time learning anything about him, I don't focus on much aside from what's useful to me, so yes I made the kneejerk assumption the person claiming to have painted the picture actually did. As you've went to the trouble to highlight this I'm interested enough to know more, is someone else painting them, what? I had a further look and in hindsight it could be argued there's a painted in China element to them.

And a good evening to you, @castlegalleryltd . Cheers for the reply.

Since I myself always aspire to being unflappable, other individuals who remain calm under fire will often command my immediate (sometimes begrudging) respect.



It may necessitate a few months but, at some point in the future, I'll do a lengthy case study on the charlatan that is Mason Storm.

This will include a straightforward and hopefully bulletproof explanation as to why, objectively, it is ridiculous to believe Storm has any direct connection with Banksy or had anything whatsoever to do with the painting of Question Time / Monkey Parliament / Devolved Parliament.



Sorry to put the matter annoyingly on hold for the time being.

It is one that requires the collating of persuasive evidence. As well as a proper, thoughtful response. And thinking now takes me far longer than it used to.

Thanks met i'll look forward to it 👍 I enjoy your posts, they're always measured. Tbh I wasn't sure where the reply was going to go. I should have known from reading your posts you would be measured and thought through properly, that's a learned/admirable skill. Chat in a bit

[ant0kest0]

Hi all 

I have part 2 and part 3 of monkey parliament Mason Storm, I’ve given up getting part 1 so happy for these to find a new home. 

they are still tubed, I was going to frame the trio… 

any questions please DM me 

[eD]

How much?

Words and words and words and words and words and words and words

[Minecrafter]

Nov 19, 2022 23:54:17 GMT 1 xixixi said:

Nov 19, 2022 19:56:11 GMT 1 met said:

It may necessitate a few months but, at some point in the future, I'll do a lengthy case study on the charlatan that is Mason Storm.

This will include a straightforward and hopefully bulletproof explanation as to why, objectively, it is ridiculous to believe Storm has any direct connection with Banksy or had anything whatsoever to do with the painting of Question Time / Monkey Parliament / Devolved Parliament.

Please do this. There is more than enough reasonable doubt and circumstantial evidence to suggest that Mason Storm is not the 'genius' who painted Devolved Parliament. The very first rumour or mention of Mason Storm being associated with the creation of Devolved Parliament was in a creativefolk.co.uk article published on Sep 17, 2019, Over ten years since the painting was first displayed. Creativefolk just happen to be the exact same 'news outlet' that published JPS's claims of 'red ballon fraud' or something that he keeps telling everybody to read. 

What’s even funnier is that Mason Storm and JPS appear to be good friends, That both use the exact same Z tier news outlet to legitimise their absurd accusations. 

First of all - JPS had facts in that article and it was also covered by artnewspaper. Pest control didn't prove jps wrong even though it would have been easy to do IF they were wrong. Feel free to bring some evidence that the allegations are incorrect. 

second - JPS separated himself from mason a long time ago, they aren't friends on Facebook and didn't speak since years. 

And last - that Z tier news outlet was used by several artists like my dog sighs for example. 

All you're trying is to discredit Mason and JPS with things that aren't even facts. 

[Acme Thunderer]

Nov 19, 2022 23:54:17 GMT 1 xixixi said:

Nov 19, 2022 19:56:11 GMT 1 met said:

It may necessitate a few months but, at some point in the future, I'll do a lengthy case study on the charlatan that is Mason Storm.

This will include a straightforward and hopefully bulletproof explanation as to why, objectively, it is ridiculous to believe Storm has any direct connection with Banksy or had anything whatsoever to do with the painting of Question Time / Monkey Parliament / Devolved Parliament.

Please do this. There is more than enough reasonable doubt and circumstantial evidence to suggest that Mason Storm is not the 'genius' who painted Devolved Parliament. The very first rumour or mention of Mason Storm being associated with the creation of Devolved Parliament was in a creativefolk.co.uk article published on Sep 17, 2019, Over ten years since the painting was first displayed. Creativefolk just happen to be the exact same 'news outlet' that published JPS's claims of 'red ballon fraud' or something that he keeps telling everybody to read. 

What’s even funnier is that Mason Storm and JPS appear to be good friends, That both use the exact same Z tier news outlet to legitimise their absurd accusations. 

Creative Folk is not a news outlet - it is a blog article (done to improve their SEO) and has no journalistic merit. 

[Minecrafter]

Nov 20, 2022 13:35:37 GMT 1 xixixi said:

Nov 20, 2022 8:50:55 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

All you're trying is to discredit Mason and JPS with things that aren't even facts. 

Fact number 1:
Mason Storm did not paint Devolved Parliament.

Fact number 2:
There was no wrongdoing committed in the creation of LIITB. 

Fact number 3: 
The legitimacy of the claims to the contrary are only substantiated by a relatively unknown web blog that publishes clickbait articles because they lack content

Number 2 is not a fact. If it would be, my husband would have been sued or silenced. Instead we watch the market crashing.
You literally created your account this month and you have quite a big mouth, can't even prove that there was no wrongdoing. Fact is it's fraud to produce a backdated piece with a backdated coa.  

Oh and it was featured by artnewspaper, too. Is that an unknown web blog, too ? 

www.theartnewspaper.com/2021/10/13/was-banksys-infamous-shredded-painting-really-created-in-2006

[Reader]

Nov 20, 2022 13:35:37 GMT 1 xixixi said:

Nov 20, 2022 8:50:55 GMT 1 Minecrafter said:

All you're trying is to discredit Mason and JPS with things that aren't even facts. 

Fact number 1:
Mason Storm did not paint Devolved Parliament.

Fact number 2:
There was no wrongdoing committed in the creation of LIITB. 

Fact number 3: 
The legitimacy of the claims to the contrary are only substantiated by a relatively unknown web blog that publishes clickbait articles because they lack content

oh no, don't set em off again with LIITB, we'll never hear the end of it.

[JD]

Offers invited for the full set by dm pls 
free delivery south London or discuss options 
JD

[Lroy]

I have the part one. Depends where you or other buyers of yours are located.
Ty

[reeder77]

how much are you looking for them?

w o r d s a n d m o r e

[ant0kest0]

The part one interests me..

Online prices are everywhere as usual! I’d probably take £1000 for the pair which I think seems fair… ideally UK shipping as anything abroad at the moment has been a nightmare!

How much do you want for the part 1?

[JD]

Bump 

Am easy way to get a full set with matching numbers word word word 

JD

Nov 20, 2022 15:14:41 GMT 1 JD said:

Offers invited for the full set by dm pls 
free delivery south London or discuss options 
JD

[Daniel Silk]

I would still predict a lot of Banksy fans will be buying these, even though some have strong opinions against Mason Storm.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClPCaEyIg3Y

[Deleted]

Mason is devoid of any of his own ideas.

Why this forum continues to promote his stuff is beyond me.

[Lroy]

Nov 22, 2022 12:19:46 GMT 1 @babooski said:

Nov 22, 2022 12:09:48 GMT 1 Lroy said:

You are on a Selling thread ! Why giving your very negative opinion ( imagine it was yours that you were trying to sell ? ) ? There are threads about MS or/and MP... It's not very cool for JD ! Anyway it's not so awful !

Now removed. Apologies to OP.


Now removed. Apologies to OP.

Now removed. Apologies to OP.

Now removed. Apologies to OP.

Thank you ! You are a gent. I will removed mine too, but you will have to remove yours ( 2 posts ) ... A bit complicated this morning ahaha ! don't quote me again or this story will never ends !

[Deleted]

All done.

Best of luck to the OP.

Best of luck to the OP.

Best of luck to the OP.

Best of luck to the OP.

Best of luck to the OP.

[met]

Nov 22, 2022 12:41:40 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Nov 22, 2022 12:19:46 GMT 1 @babooski said:

Now removed. Apologies to OP.


Now removed. Apologies to OP.

Now removed. Apologies to OP.

Now removed. Apologies to OP.

Thank you ! You are a gent. I will removed mine too, but you will have to remove yours ( 2 posts ) ... A bit complicated this morning ahaha ! don't quote me again or this story will never ends !

Just for the sake of conversation, my own position would be diametrically opposite.

I consider it regrettable that @babooski felt the need to delete their initial post.



All threads are invitations for good-faith comments and the exchange of competing viewpoints.

Critique is essential if our objective is to encourage each other to actually think about art, and to remind ourselves to keep asking the most basic questions.

Examples:


(i)  Why exactly do I like this piece?

[Or, if the reasons are different, Why do I want to own this piece?]

(ii)  What are the artwork's strengths, and what are its weaknesses?

(iii)  Is the art / artist actually any good?

(iv)  Am I perhaps buying with my ears rather than my eyes, and therefore behaving like a lemming? To what extent is my desire to acquire this piece being influenced by what other people are buying (or appearing to buy)?


Now, these types of queries are most relevant and urgent on a sales thread, far more so than elsewhere.



The suggestion that it's only acceptable to offer praise on a sales thread, and inappropriate for members to share genuinely-held (as opposed to disingenuous) unfavourable opinions about the art or artist, amounts to prioritising commerce over critical thinking and debate.

And on an art-based message board, I would say that is unfortunate. It places the financial concerns of a single seller over the higher interests of the forum generally.

Especially with respect to art that is derivative or otherwise poor, it would seem preferable to get potential buyers to think twice, rather than (through silence) allowing them to repeat mistakes the seller may already have made — mistakes that seller might now be trying to offload onto others here who are less thoughtful or less informed.



Members already know their sales threads are fair game for discussion. And that, in addition to random plaudits, the possibility of a few negative comments simply comes with the territory of selling art on a public forum.

If any seller is so thin-skinned that they become defensive, shrill or passive-aggressive at the first sign of their items getting panned, they always have the option of choosing alternative platforms like eBay — where they can pay selling fees in exchange for the luxury of zero commentary.

[Lroy]

Nov 22, 2022 16:44:36 GMT 1 met said:

Nov 22, 2022 12:41:40 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Thank you ! You are a gent. I will removed mine too, but you will have to remove yours ( 2 posts ) ... A bit complicated this morning ahaha ! don't quote me again or this story will never ends !

Just for the sake of conversation, my own position would be diametrically opposite.

I consider it regrettable that @babooski felt the need to delete their initial post.



All threads are invitations for good-faith comments and the exchange of competing viewpoints.

Critique is essential if our objective is to encourage each other to actually think about art, and to remind ourselves to keep asking the most basic questions.

Examples:


(i)  Why exactly do I like this piece?

[Or, if the reasons are different, Why do I want to own this piece?]

(ii)  What are the artwork's strengths, and what are its weaknesses?

(iii)  Is the art / artist actually any good?

(iv)  Am I perhaps buying with my ears rather than my eyes, and therefore behaving like a lemming? To what extent is my desire to acquire this piece being influenced by what other people are buying (or appearing to buy)?


Now, these types of queries are most relevant and urgent on a sales thread, far more so than elsewhere.



The suggestion that it's only acceptable to offer praise on a sales thread, and inappropriate for members to share genuinely-held (as opposed to disingenuous) unfavourable opinions about the art or artist, amounts to prioritising commerce over critical thinking and debate.

And on an art-based message board, I would say that is unfortunate. It places the financial concerns of a single seller over the higher interests of the forum generally.

Especially with respect to art that is derivative or otherwise poor, it would seem preferable to get potential buyers to think twice, rather than (through silence) allowing them to repeat mistakes the seller may already have made — mistakes that seller might now be trying to offload onto others here who are less thoughtful or less informed.



Members already know their sales threads are fair game for discussion. And that, in addition to random plaudits, the possibility of a few negative comments simply comes with the territory of selling art on a public forum.

If any seller is so thin-skinned that they become defensive, shrill or passive-aggressive at the first sign of their items getting panned, they always have the option of choosing alternative platforms like eBay — where they can pay selling fees in exchange for the luxury of zero commentary.

I said that, because the just " it's awfull ! " ( is it a critic ? ) about the sale, worried me a bit. Anyway, I'm not the kind of guy to make the " morale " , nor to advise about that ( I ' ve done that a lot of times on Sale theads too )...

The difference ( and that's why I told that at 12' - I was hungry maybe, not angry  - ) is that I read a lot of times,  some rude posts/answers from several members  criticizing the guy (s) just coming on the Sale thread to " break " the artwork, the OP or I don't know what ( as myself with Kaws per example ) ... Some " ennemies " as Cookimonster - what a plague ! - took a pleasure too, to harassed me with my Invader sale books... It was realy boring at the end. He was attacking the man, not the artworks.

Anyway, so, as an imbecile, today I have copied them, by lazyness, idleness, as a pueril schoolboy... Just because I don't know why..

To finish, almost all, I think that I've wrote that also,  because I like JD that seems a cool person.

But, as always, I am agree with you. Salutations !