Banksy Copyright© & Trademark™

[JW]

Sept 17, 2020 12:46:18 GMT 1 JD said:

Sept 17, 2020 11:38:33 GMT 1 tab1 said:

This may burst the bubble everyone has been quoting for so long ?

Yes . Not a good time to be paying life changing money . He could reprint all for revenge

Revenge on who?  (I get what you're saying, but that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face).

[Terry Fuckwitt]

How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet

[iamzero]

I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun.

What am I missing?

[JW]

Sept 17, 2020 12:53:31 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet

You know what else is weird?  

Barely any comments on their Instagram/Twitter/Facebook posts.

[tab1]

Sept 17, 2020 12:29:55 GMT 1 singerstu said:

On eBay there are hundreds of knock off items for sale. Every week there are dozens of copy products in small auction houses around the world, I cannot see what difference this is going to make. The comment that this is "devastating for the artist" is farcical. No one on here is going to buy tat from Full Colour Black.

The company owns the image and rights

Any litas needing a pest control certificate after the day of copyright judgement Can they still apply ?

The new gdp litas made during the Court dispute , Will they have to be withdrawn or will banksy need to pay the card company a percentage for use of the image ?

The other gdp items are new images so hopefully banksy applies copyright to the other images .

A lot of money to be made in licensing the rights to others

[ubl]

Could you petition this, would be great to have someone less lazy and more interrigent then me to do that, Ill sign...

[Terry Fuckwitt]

Sept 17, 2020 12:58:06 GMT 1 JW said:

Sept 17, 2020 12:53:31 GMT 1 Terry Fuckwitt said:

How the hell as full colour black not got any Google reviews...yet

You know what else is weird?  

Barely any comments on their Instagram/Twitter/Facebook posts.

I remember they made a brief appearance here last year, but were quickly told to fuck off🤣

[medichead]

I think in real terms this will be less of an issue than it seems now.
Unfortunate decision all round, though.

[kfroms]

Sept 17, 2020 12:53:50 GMT 1 iamzero said:

I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun.

What am I missing?

Team Banksy should have properly claimed the rights. They did not, according to the judge.

[tab1]

Sept 17, 2020 12:53:50 GMT 1 iamzero said:

I still don’t understand how this is all possible? I create an image and clearly the world can see it’s mine. Yet another company can claim the rights to selling my image on for profit. While in other news a car or clothing company can’t use a legitimate image of their product because in the background is a piece a graffiti artist painted illegally for fun.

What am I missing?

Without being present for the case details from court and reading from the news outlets
Banksy presented as a graffiti artist , displaying art illegally without owners permission On public and private buildings , which is a criminal public order offense , which the defense would disclose with the internet webtrail. Which although famous for his artwork the judge will have a different view
His works have been selling for hundreds of thousands of gdp since 2006 and even a millions since 2009 and as noted all the history of knock off items on the web since 2005 And Unaffiliated shows around the World since 2006 the banksy team Had not put in place a copyright challenge until 2013 And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially
Mr brainwash has been using the same image for the past 10 years ? And not challenged on a grand commercial scale and profiting

The card company is onto a winner

Will have a knock on effect and the company will now seek other images to gain control of the copyright

[pagerage]

Tab1 take a lap

[tab1]

Sept 17, 2020 13:14:10 GMT 1 pagerage said:

Tab1 take a lap

Pass the baton

[Terry Fuckwitt]

They need their premises decorated

[tab1]

Interesting to see the accounts for the card company next year for licensing profits of the image concerned

[tab1]

Sept 17, 2020 13:16:16 GMT 1 god’s ultimate noise said:

Sept 17, 2020 13:12:40 GMT 1 tab1 said:

...And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially

It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.

Plenty of time to had put the business in order and protect the images
Jo brooks needs a salary reduction😮

Insiders knew shortcomings of the case , hence all the recent auctions ?
Will be interesting to see auction results over the next few months

[Woodey1001]

Sept 17, 2020 13:16:16 GMT 1 god’s ultimate noise said:

Sept 17, 2020 13:12:40 GMT 1 tab1 said:

...And had not used the lita image until gdp commercially

It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.

Also on walled off Hotel souvenirs.. might be just after the case though.

http://instagram.com/p/CBhDnUGnp7w

[silvermyn]

If Banksy wanted to put these people out of business all he had to do was set up an online shop and sell merchandise to the public. Call is Gross Domestic Product perhaps, or Bbay.

But that's not the business that Banksy is in. GDP pretended to sell unlimited editions to the public but it was all a lottery, answers to a question, and no unlimited merchandise in the form of t-shirts, mugs or plates unless you were "selected" to buy one of the small number available. If they want to change that they can, but they won't because selling cheap merchandise is not what they want to spend their time doing.

The Soup Can posters for £10 each from POW was the first example I can remember of cheap unlimited Banksy product and we've seen a similar model followed with Peckham Rock. It all just went a bit off concept with GDP. Will we ever see anything like the Soup Can posters again? Unlikely but you never know. Dropshipping is a thing now.

[JD]

Sept 17, 2020 12:48:26 GMT 1 JW said:

Sept 17, 2020 12:46:18 GMT 1 JD said:

Yes . Not a good time to be paying life changing money . He could reprint all for revenge

Revenge on who?  (I get what you're saying, but that would be cutting your nose off to spite your face).

He’s an anarchist no ?

[iamzero]

But didn’t he use the image commercially when he made the LIITA screen print?

[Woodey1001]

Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print.

Wierd.

[tab1]

Sept 17, 2020 13:27:42 GMT 1 Woodey1001 said:

Sept 17, 2020 13:16:16 GMT 1 god’s ultimate noise said:

It was used commercially on an album cover 20 years ago.

Also on walled off Hotel souvenirs.. might be just after the case though.

http://instagr.am/p/CBhDnUGnp7w

After

[antony]

Sept 17, 2020 13:52:36 GMT 1 Woodey1001 said:

Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print.

Wierd.

Because it was authorised by Pest Control
but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard

[tab1]

www.jeditemplearchives.com/2018-09-16-the-cost-of-hasbros-star-wars-license/

Posted earlier in the thread , licensing is a valuable asset and the card company is set for a bumper pay day with all the interest in banksy of recent and the average person unable to afford original banksy items let alone original posters the mass products they can manufacture with the copyright applied many will think they are buying a genuine banksy

[silvermyn]

Sept 17, 2020 13:54:00 GMT 1 antony said:

Sept 17, 2020 13:52:36 GMT 1 Woodey1001 said:

Peckham rock is a museum postcard isn't it? Why do people think it's an official Banksy print.

Wierd.

Because it was authorised by Pest Control
but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard

That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back.

[letterpressed]

I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision...

Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel!

Would be great for him to expose himself in court!

Interesting for sure...

[marquis]

As quoted in the Guardian article, the EU trademark panel stated the GDP store sold “impractical and offensive” merchandise...including disco balls made from used police riot helmets as well as replicas of the stab vest worn by Stormzy during his Glastonbury headline set in 2019"

[coller]

Sept 17, 2020 14:11:19 GMT 1 letterpressed said:

Would be great for him to expose himself in court!

I may have misread this.

[letterpressed]

Sept 17, 2020 14:28:48 GMT 1 coller said:

Sept 17, 2020 14:11:19 GMT 1 letterpressed said:

Would be great for him to expose himself in court!

I may have misread this.

Nope, I think you may have read it correctly :-)

[Woodey1001]

Sept 17, 2020 14:03:34 GMT 1 silvermyn said:

Sept 17, 2020 13:54:00 GMT 1 antony said:

Because it was authorised by Pest Control
but yes...this is not a print..just a postcard

That's correct. "Courtesy of Pest Control Office, Banksy, Peckham Rock, 2005" on the back.

It's still just a museum postcard. Many more and bigger blue chip artists sell these everywhere. Bit wierd putting value on them. Smacks of desperation.

[tab1]

Sept 17, 2020 14:11:19 GMT 1 letterpressed said:

I wonder if they decide to appeal and Banksy decides that this is so serious that he needs to reveal himself/herself/themselves to contest this decision...

Sounds like the anonymity irritated the panel!

Would be great for him to expose himself in court!

Interesting for sure...

long term ,this ruling if left unchallenged will effect his market and brand