[7star]

Sorry but Clown have just lost ALL credibility and anyone who buys that crap for 8k got hustled

Imagine if you were round someone’s house and they said they had a Banksy print and they pull out that shit haha laughing stock

Can’t imagine the man himself will appreciate it overly much

[Fairxat]

Dec 13, 2021 18:06:02 GMT 1 geester said:

Clearly states acetates to be retired, never to be used again?
Should of just released prints in the initial release, at least people that genuinely wanted a deck can pick some up cheap now

[FЯ]

Dec 13, 2021 20:39:16 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

Dec 13, 2021 18:06:02 GMT 1 geester said:

Clearly states acetates to be retired, never to be used again?
Should of just released prints in the initial release, at least people that genuinely wanted a deck can pick some up cheap now

Not the banksy acetates. This is like fake news

Check their store, all boards carry the clown

[Jeezuz Jones Snr]

$8k 😂😂

[7star]

Someone just posted a brutal comment on both of Stowe galleries posts announcing the print haha

[Fairxat]

surely £20000 at tateward?

people spending this amount without knowing the market or the artist deserve to be burnt

[7star]

Actually a great point, this print is for people that buy that fake junk from Tate Ward not knowing the difference

Clown have REALLY messed up, just makes them look greedy and not like the image they want to give out, I.E caring about the skate community

Total joke

[7star]

Stowe care to comment, 8k for a worthless print with no resale value and 3 skateboards you can pick up for under a 100 quid on ebay, albeit different colours is quite frankly taking the p

[Lunch Special]

Dec 13, 2021 17:55:49 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

When these decks were re-released, they stated only one off release and they would never release in any other format, one off chance to purchase . Suppose the figures are too rewarding to ignore a release

this ins't the same imo. 

they are expanding, you guys talk about tateward but buy & defend wcp? 

Funny place this is.....

I don't understand the price either granted 8K GBP is crazy if it has not yet been authorized.....

tbc

[7star]

So Stowe .....

You think deleting instagram comments will stop people finding out the utter scam this is?

You (Stowe) really need to comment on this blatant rip off

[7star]

Lunch special ..... fair enough point but the difference is WCP prints don't cost 8k and they allow lovers of his works who can't afford a real print or original of his to enjoy the image without cost

This print just exposes Clown as greedy and disingenuous and Stowe as peddlers of utter junk that any individual that knows their stuff wouldn't touch and would probably laugh at

[Fairxat]

Dec 14, 2021 0:38:09 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Dec 13, 2021 17:55:49 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

When these decks were re-released, they stated only one off release and they would never release in any other format, one off chance to purchase . Suppose the figures are too rewarding to ignore a release

this ins't the same imo. 

they are expanding, you guys talk about tateward but buy & defend wcp? 

Funny place this is.....

I don't understand the price either granted 8K GBP is crazy if it has not yet been authorized.....

tbc

Authorized by who?
On this thread someone posted pest controls response that the re-releases of the clown image was not authorized, just around in circles.

[Lunch Special]

Dec 14, 2021 1:45:09 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

Dec 14, 2021 0:38:09 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

this ins't the same imo. 

they are expanding, you guys talk about tateward but buy & defend wcp? 

Funny place this is.....

I don't understand the price either granted 8K GBP is crazy if it has not yet been authorized.....

tbc

Authorized by who?
On this thread someone posted pest controls response that the re-releases of the clown image was not authorized, just around in circles.

So hypothetically speaking:

if a company / skate shop has an artist do a logo or both parties agree on the logo for said company / skate shop and the artist is cool and gives or do whatever they do, the question is:
A does the owner of the shop and logo have full usage rights?
B has the artist made a statement regarding such as he always does
C. Post post the link you referencing.

[Lunch Special]

Dec 14, 2021 1:37:24 GMT 1 7star said:

Lunch special ..... fair enough point but the difference is WCP prints don't cost 8k and they allow lovers of his works who can't afford a real print or original of his to enjoy the image without cost

This print just exposes Clown as greedy and disingenuous and Stowe as peddlers of utter junk that any individual that knows their stuff wouldn't touch and would probably laugh at

So it’s ok to bootleg an image if it doesn’t cost so much?

Lets see where all you clowns really at.

I’m interested in buying a test press set. Tonight! I’ll give you wire or since were talking fakes be real authorized images. I’ll give a full set of Bristol Museum posters. Dorothy klansman david copper and MP. And I have two full sets of them. And a bunch of the folded DP. Posters. Each of these £10 is worth more than any wcp to me & should to you to. F2F ONLY! NYC.

[Fairxat]

Dec 14, 2021 3:46:28 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Dec 14, 2021 1:45:09 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

Authorized by who?
On this thread someone posted pest controls response that the re-releases of the clown image was not authorized, just around in circles.

So hypothetically speaking:

if a company / skate shop has an artist do a logo or both parties agree on the logo for said company / skate shop and the artist is cool and gives or do whatever they do, the question is:
A does the owner of the shop and logo have full usage rights?
B has the artist made a statement regarding such as he always does
C. Post post the link you referencing.

you can find it yourself
It’s some where on this thread, quite a bit of discussion at the time, some one posted pest controls response to their email

It comes down to what ACTUAL agreement was made at the time between the two parties, not on assumptions

[dp]

while all the experts here are busy slating Clown, here's a little idea of what they have been doing with their profits, a lot of investment in the skate community:

www.clownskateboards.com/inaction

I'd be very surprised if they have fallen out with Banksy

[Stowe Gallery]

This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below:
www.clownskateboards.com/inaction
We have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible.
Although some don’t agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art.
Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think it’s acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received.

[Lazarus II]

Thread momentum regained, 100 pages at least….

[FЯ]

Dec 14, 2021 9:13:33 GMT 1 Stowe Gallery said:

This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below:
www.clownskateboards.com/inaction
We have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible.
Although some don’t agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art.
Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think it’s acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received.

Well done UAA, Online abuse - new lows all the time.

[Fairxat]

Dec 14, 2021 9:51:18 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Dec 14, 2021 9:13:33 GMT 1 Stowe Gallery said:

This print and deck set is driving funds for In Action details below:
www.clownskateboards.com/inaction
We have priced it to raise as much money for the cause as possible.
Although some don’t agree with the pricing, we have had an overwhelming response and are delighted with the feedback of both Clown Skateboard fans and collectors of Urban art.
Unfortunately we have also had some abuse from a very small group of people that think it’s acceptable to slander Clowns good work and be rude to our staff. As the main goal for the release is to help underprivileged kids we have deleted hateful comments on our Instagram page. Thank you so much to everyone who has emailed in. we are working through the emails as we speak and should get back to everyone today, as you can imagine it may take a while with the amount we have received.

Well done UAA, Online abuse - new lows all the time.

lol
Coming from someone with good form on the bristol protest thread and quite a few other threads with abuse

[Fairxat]

Dec 14, 2021 9:43:51 GMT 1 Lazarus II said:

Thread momentum regained, 100 pages at least….

when the monkey detonator ap prints are released, easily overtake the gdp thread page count

[FЯ]

Dec 14, 2021 10:48:27 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

Dec 14, 2021 9:51:18 GMT 1 FЯ said:

Well done UAA, Online abuse - new lows all the time.

lol
Coming from someone with good form on the bristol protest thread and quite a few other threads with abuse

excuse me? 

were you one of the instagram posters then being immediately deflective - would not surprise me

[7star]

If the cash is going to help kids get into skating then thats obviously a great cause

But if the artist didn't authorise the skate rerelease or the print then it's still an utter liberty

Stowe nothing to feel proud of here, you've just got a load of idiots who don't understand the art market to waste 8k on something that'll end up on ebay for a couple of grand when they realise it wasn't an official release or even authorised

[Happy Shopper]

Dec 14, 2021 3:46:28 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

Dec 14, 2021 1:45:09 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

Authorized by who?
On this thread someone posted pest controls response that the re-releases of the clown image was not authorized, just around in circles.

if a company / skate shop has an artist do a logo or both parties agree on the logo for said company / skate shop and the artist is cool and gives or do whatever they do, the question is:
A does the owner of the shop and logo have full usage rights?

I'd assume Banksy designed the logo to put on their products, but not become the product.

If I were Banksy I think I'd be a bit annoyed at them releasing the logo as a print (and across 3 decks). It crosses the line into looking like an authorised Banksy artwork, rather than just logo on a T-shirt or skateboard.

I believe the artist generally retains the copyright for this type of usage... but it's not always clear.

[buffin]

Have Clown made any statement about the use of their business logo?

[dp]

Dec 14, 2021 11:42:58 GMT 1 buffin said:

Have Clown made any statement about the use of their business logo?

text from Clown email sent out today:


The great thing about doing what we do - apart from loving it - is that we raise money for things to make a difference. This year Ludo, Adam Neate, you and the shops have helped that along, but we can't stop now, we are just getting warmed up on ‘IN ACTION.

The plans for 2022 on ‘IN ACTION’ are afoot and we want next year to have a greater impact than 2021. We are preparing a full end of year summary so you can see the great works that have been done with YOUR backing, In Action has allowed us to put some happy faces in this world both home and abroad, something we can all do with at the moment.

The Clown Skateboards community movement ‘IN ACTION’ is about the act of making a practical commitment, seeing it through and realising the outcomes from our actions. This is something that does not belong to us but belongs to all of us who feel the same and want to partner with Clown to make positive actions.

Now read on.


Clown Skateboards and Stowe Gallery are great friends, having worked and drunk in the same urban art circles for a good few years now. We had both been talking about working together on something, but life just got in the way. Two things for sure: 1. it had to reflect both our worlds - skate and art and 2. as both parties are strong believers in giving back, THAT had to play a major part. Clown has a Community Interest Company (Clown In Action) which was one of the key drivers behind Jeff and Vikas bringing Clown back in 2020 and therefore the cause that would benefit was a no-brainer

Clown has been working with artists from their very inception: Mau Mau, Adam Neate, Jock and one or two others you might have heard of...Just how did Clown get Banksy to do their logo? BANKSY was just about to explode after he, Jeff Boardman and Vikas Malik came together to create a street party to showcase his work for the very first time in London with the now legendary “Rivington Street Exhibition” and the release of the first little black book “Banging My Head Against A Brick Wall”. After the show Jeff and Vikas - who had been looking to start their own movement that incorporated their worlds of Skateboarding, Art and Music - asked BANKSY to create the Clown logo and designs for the first 2 boards. You can read more here

The guys at Stowe Gallery have been working with a ton of other artists in the Urban art world for many years. And as they have also moved in the same circles as the main man himself, it was a simple choice as to whom we would choose to release the first ever Clown Original with.

Stowe's whole business is obviously art, so our mutual interests of art, skateboarding and beer had to come together eventually.

And you can see the fruits of that love-in on the 17:12:21

[7star]

I think at this point Clown need to make a statement ..........

Absolutely ruined any respect they once had

Such a p take to release a print

You're telling me that people that don't get how he works won't mistake it for an official release

Joke

[7star]

And Stowe

It doesn't matter where the cash is going ......

The point is that people who don't under stand his market will think it's authorised or an official release

By releasing a print you're making it real easy for a beginner or someone lacking knowledge to mistake it for being part of his official Canon

And I think that's what you are both relying on in order to sell them

[Dice]

Decks are one thing but limited edition Banksy prints are another. Team banksy shoudl put a stop to this

[irl1]

Dec 14, 2021 1:45:09 GMT 1 Fairxat said:

Dec 14, 2021 0:38:09 GMT 1 Lunch Special said:

this ins't the same imo. 

they are expanding, you guys talk about tateward but buy & defend wcp? 

Funny place this is.....

I don't understand the price either granted 8K GBP is crazy if it has not yet been authorized.....

tbc

Authorized by who?
On this thread someone posted pest controls response that the re-releases of the clown image was not authorized, just around in circles.

Hi xxxxxxx.



There is no agreement in place for these images to be reproduced or sold.



Many thanks



Pest Control Office



[e-mail]