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Recommended Art Books, by met on Jun 4, 2024 2:09:10 GMT 1,
Can someone who buys this DS book now please check the copywrite / imprint page, take a pic and post it? My copy is dated from 2022 and I am wondering if this is still the first print run etc
If being released later this month (as referred to on the Rough Trade web page), that book won't be from the first print run.
I would also presume it will no longer be a first edition, given the "Released 20/06/2024" text โ along with the fact the original release was in 2022, and plenty of new additions or corrections could easily have been made during the interval.
Here I am : ( mine is second edition2022 ) Sorry for the double pics [...] [Images rotated for increased reader-friendliness.]  
Above: First edition, second printing.
This is mine - it might be the first edition as had it on preorder.  
Above: First edition, first printing.
Can someone who buys this DS book now please check the copywrite / imprint page, take a pic and post it? My copy is dated from 2022 and I am wondering if this is still the first print run etcIf being released later this month (as referred to on the Rough Trade web page), that book won't be from the first print run. I would also presume it will no longer be a first edition, given the "Released 20/06/2024" text โ along with the fact the original release was in 2022, and plenty of new additions or corrections could easily have been made during the interval. Here I am : ( mine is second edition2022 ) Sorry for the double pics [...] [Images rotated for increased reader-friendliness.] Above: First edition, second printing. This is mine - it might be the first edition as had it on preorder. Above: First edition, first printing. |
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Recommended Art Books, by Lroy on Jun 4, 2024 8:13:20 GMT 1, Thank you met. Well, itโs a bit cheating no ? Even if itโs not โฆ As we all think that itโs a new book from Shrigley and itโs not ( I thought to buy the first edition and printing when I bought it )โฆ
Anyway is it changing the โ value โ of the book ? I donโt think so, the first edition are great when itโs a book that havenโt being edited since decades or centuries, with another size, format, color plates, etc ..
Of course itโs legal, but well they should tell the people about the printing ( you see, the poster thought yesterday that it was a new book ) , in fact itโs a very commercial affair, taking no risk.
( as the Banksy Wall and Pieces, at the difference that we can find it in all bookstores and other itโs not reserved to Rough Trade, big trust ).
Amities.
Thank you met. Well, itโs a bit cheating no ? Even if itโs not โฆ As we all think that itโs a new book from Shrigley and itโs not ( I thought to buy the first edition and printing when I bought it )โฆ Anyway is it changing the โ value โ of the book ? I donโt think so, the first edition are great when itโs a book that havenโt being edited since decades or centuries, with another size, format, color plates, etc .. Of course itโs legal, but well they should tell the people about the printing ( you see, the poster thought yesterday that it was a new book ) , in fact itโs a very commercial affair, taking no risk. ( as the Banksy Wall and Pieces, at the difference that we can find it in all bookstores and other itโs not reserved to Rough Trade, big trust ). Amities. |
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Recommended Art Books, by Javier on Jun 4, 2024 10:03:04 GMT 1, It's hand singed on an insert stuck on the first page. Really nice book too 
considering selling it
It's hand singed on an insert stuck on the first page. Really nice book too Mine, also first edition, has the card separately, itโs not stuck to anything considering selling it |
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Recommended Art Books, by Lroy on Jun 4, 2024 12:39:57 GMT 1, It's hand singed on an insert stuck on the first page. Really nice book too Mine, also first edition, has the card separately, itโs not stuck to anything considering selling it
It's hand singed on an insert stuck on the first page. Really nice book too Mine, also first edition, has the card separately, itโs not stuck to anything considering selling it Maybe DS forgot to buy glueโฆ |
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Recommended Art Books, by Lroy on Jun 6, 2024 12:43:27 GMT 1, I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ
if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you 
I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you |
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Recommended Art Books, by kfroms on Jun 6, 2024 16:45:53 GMT 1, Go for the signed one - content wise it will be a full coverage of her paintings from 1990 till today. 350 pages of the good stuff. And itโs obviously signed.
The White Cube one โonlyโ covers one exhibition.
Go for the signed one - content wise it will be a full coverage of her paintings from 1990 till today. 350 pages of the good stuff. And itโs obviously signed.
The White Cube one โonlyโ covers one exhibition.
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Recommended Art Books, by John The Badgers on Jun 6, 2024 18:36:45 GMT 1, I'm with kfroms Lroy, the Phaidon book definitely the one I would go for.
Never had a bad book from Phaidon's, always well put together, and great that its signed.
I'm not overly familiar with Emin's work, liking that it gives a real overview of her work.
All the best with making your choice!
I'm with kfroms Lroy, the Phaidon book definitely the one I would go for.
Never had a bad book from Phaidon's, always well put together, and great that its signed.
I'm not overly familiar with Emin's work, liking that it gives a real overview of her work.
All the best with making your choice!
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Recommended Art Books, by mandem on Jun 6, 2024 19:24:41 GMT 1, I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you
Ignore the signed vs unsigned thought.
View this as a career retrospective vs a single exhibition catalogue.
I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you Ignore the signed vs unsigned thought.
View this as a career retrospective vs a single exhibition catalogue. |
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Recommended Art Books, by kfroms on Jun 6, 2024 20:47:06 GMT 1, I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you
I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you Btw - since when is having a lot of book a reason to not more books?๐ฌ |
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Recommended Art Books, by Lroy on Jun 6, 2024 20:59:08 GMT 1, Phaidon orders always cause a certain nervousness- they have a tendency to oversell and then cancel. Hope this is not the case with this one. Phaidon has always had a bad reputation, in France. They were the cheapest art book without quality. It seems that itโs not the same today ( apart about what is denouncing @kdfroms ) even if they can oversell, put a date 3 or 4 months later and put the money aside the bank to make it growing.. They play with our money in fact.
Sorry lord and ladies, and thank you for your advise : I found this one too, not expensive โฆ
is it a good one ?
www.amazon.fr/Tracey-Emin-Jonathan-Jones/dp/1786277085
Phaidon orders always cause a certain nervousness- they have a tendency to oversell and then cancel. Hope this is not the case with this one. Phaidon has always had a bad reputation, in France. They were the cheapest art book without quality. It seems that itโs not the same today ( apart about what is denouncing @kdfroms ) even if they can oversell, put a date 3 or 4 months later and put the money aside the bank to make it growing.. They play with our money in fact. I apologize to quote myself, but I made a big mistake : I was thinking of Tascen books ( bad reputation, quickly in sales shops cheaps, etc ) โฆ Sorry lord and ladies, and thank you for your advise : I found this one too, not expensive โฆ is it a good one ? www.amazon.fr/Tracey-Emin-Jonathan-Jones/dp/1786277085 |
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Recommended Art Books, by random.jes on Jun 7, 2024 11:25:02 GMT 1, Hi! I have to do a present to one of my best friend who is trying to be a full time artist (good luck to him  ) I'm thinking to buy "How to Not Fuck Up Your Art-World Happiness", but I never read it, WDYT? Any suggestion it's really appreciated!
Hi! I have to do a present to one of my best friend who is trying to be a full time artist (good luck to him ) I'm thinking to buy "How to Not Fuck Up Your Art-World Happiness", but I never read it, WDYT? Any suggestion it's really appreciated! |
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met
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Recommended Art Books, by met on Jun 7, 2024 12:31:49 GMT 1, I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you ๐ฌ
A few potential reasons
1. When we start buying books like automatons, without really thinking. More out of an impulse to acquire, than a proper desire for a specific book.
2. When we have already accumulated more books than we'll ever have time to read.
3. When we have a habit or ordering multiple copies of the same book, thinking "These would make nice gifts", but only on rare occasions following through with the actual gift‑giving.
4. When we become cognisant of the fact that, after shuffling off this mortal coil, most of our books (even highly-prized, sought‑after publications) will โ out of expediency, especially due to their sheer weight and volume โ likely end up in the recycling‑bin or at a random charity shop.
This, probably as a result of a future decision taken by heirs or an executor, who may be ignorant, uninterested, thoughtless, time‑pressed, emotionally drained, overwhelmed, stressed, or merely distracted by a recent loss in the family.
All of the above scenarios apply to me.
That said, I am still buying books. Even though it is also sabotaging my separate efforts of trying to sort out my Swedish Death Cleaning.
Phaidon orders always cause a certain nervousness- they have a tendency to oversell and then cancel. Hope this is not the case with this one. Phaidon has always had a bad reputation, in France. They were the cheapest art book without quality. It seems that itโs not the same today ( apart about what is denouncing @kdfroms ) even if they can oversell, put a date 3 or 4 months later and put the money aside the bank to make it growing.. They play with our money in fact. I apologize to quote myself, but I made a big mistake : I was thinking of Tascen books ( bad reputation, quickly in sales shops cheaps, etc ) โฆ Sorry lord and ladies, and thank you for your advise : I found this one too, not expensive โฆ is it a good one ? www.amazon.fr/Tracey-Emin-Jonathan-Jones/dp/1786277085
This would only be half of the story.
The business model for Taschen consists of releasing both:
(a) low-cost, typically smaller, mass-market editions; and
(b) higher-value, larger-scale, special and limited edition books (along with limited edition artwork and photographs).
My understanding is that the former partly subsidise the latter, which consist of far more creative and innovative projects.
A favourite Taschen purchase of mine was the original SUMO by Helmut Newton, an edition of 10,000, weighing about 30kg, and accompanied by its own Philippe Starck bookstand.
For fans of Bettina Rheims or Ellen von Unwerth, among the most notable publications by these photographers are those that were released by Taschen.
In recent years, I've picked up XXL versions of books on Da Vinci, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, Rembrandt, Vermeer, and Basquiat. Each is weighty, visually impressive, and of great quality.
Well worth the money. Especially when buying during one of Taschen's twice‑yearly sales.
I need an avise my friend : between the book from White Cube and the other signed one ( for September ) , which one would you buy ? I know that you will answer me, ยซ both ยซ , but well I have so many books, I canโt buy all the Tracey Emin โฆ if some of you on here have ideas, it will be with pleasure that I will read you ๐ฌ When we start buying books like automatons, without really thinking. More out of an impulse to acquire, than a proper desire for a specific book. 2. When we have already accumulated more books than we'll ever have time to read. 3. When we have a habit or ordering multiple copies of the same book, thinking "These would make nice gifts", but only on rare occasions following through with the actual gift‑giving. 4. When we become cognisant of the fact that, after shuffling off this mortal coil, most of our books (even highly-prized, sought‑after publications) will โ out of expediency, especially due to their sheer weight and volume โ likely end up in the recycling‑bin or at a random charity shop. This, probably as a result of a future decision taken by heirs or an executor, who may be ignorant, uninterested, thoughtless, time‑pressed, emotionally drained, overwhelmed, stressed, or merely distracted by a recent loss in the family. All of the above scenarios apply to me. That said, I am still buying books. Even though it is also sabotaging my separate efforts of trying to sort out my Swedish Death Cleaning. Phaidon orders always cause a certain nervousness- they have a tendency to oversell and then cancel. Hope this is not the case with this one. Phaidon has always had a bad reputation, in France. They were the cheapest art book without quality. It seems that itโs not the same today ( apart about what is denouncing @kdfroms ) even if they can oversell, put a date 3 or 4 months later and put the money aside the bank to make it growing.. They play with our money in fact. I apologize to quote myself, but I made a big mistake : I was thinking of Tascen books ( bad reputation, quickly in sales shops cheaps, etc ) โฆ Sorry lord and ladies, and thank you for your advise : I found this one too, not expensive โฆ is it a good one ? www.amazon.fr/Tracey-Emin-Jonathan-Jones/dp/1786277085This would only be half of the story. The business model for Taschen consists of releasing both: (a) low-cost, typically smaller, mass-market editions; and (b) higher-value, larger-scale, special and limited edition books (along with limited edition artwork and photographs). My understanding is that the former partly subsidise the latter, which consist of far more creative and innovative projects. A favourite Taschen purchase of mine was the original SUMO by Helmut Newton, an edition of 10,000, weighing about 30kg, and accompanied by its own Philippe Starck bookstand. For fans of Bettina Rheims or Ellen von Unwerth, among the most notable publications by these photographers are those that were released by Taschen. In recent years, I've picked up XXL versions of books on Da Vinci, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, Rembrandt, Vermeer, and Basquiat. Each is weighty, visually impressive, and of great quality. Well worth the money. Especially when buying during one of Taschen's twice‑yearly sales. |
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Recommended Art Books, by Lroy on Jun 7, 2024 12:45:21 GMT 1, Thank you met for this admirable and enjoyable post !
As always should I say ?
No there are awesome socks ๐งฆ on this one ( yours ? )
What a great critic anyway ( I donโt say that to brush your shoes ๐ :-)
Thank you met for this admirable and enjoyable post ! As always should I say ? No there are awesome socks ๐งฆ on this one ( yours ? ) What a great critic anyway ( I donโt say that to brush your shoes ๐ :-) |
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Recommended Art Books, by kfroms on Jun 7, 2024 15:24:29 GMT 1, Thank you met for another considered post based on my rather thoughtless comment!
Much appreciated and you for sure raise some valid points.
My wife is swedish and I have โexperienced โ a swedish death cleaning twice.
I found it awkward, the โdeadโ person actually enjoyed the process of clearing out unnecessary stuff.
Still a rather weird ritual if you are not used to it.
Happy weekend everyone.
It hasnt been said in a while so here we go:
This thread is really wonderful. Thank you all.
Thank you met for another considered post based on my rather thoughtless comment!
Much appreciated and you for sure raise some valid points.
My wife is swedish and I have โexperienced โ a swedish death cleaning twice.
I found it awkward, the โdeadโ person actually enjoyed the process of clearing out unnecessary stuff.
Still a rather weird ritual if you are not used to it.
Happy weekend everyone.
It hasnt been said in a while so here we go:
This thread is really wonderful. Thank you all.
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kjg
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Recommended Art Books, by kjg on Jun 11, 2024 17:57:23 GMT 1, Same here! Very nice indeed. Happy with this one :-)
Same here! Very nice indeed. Happy with this one :-) |
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Recommended Art Books, by Prescription Art on Jun 11, 2024 18:03:26 GMT 1,
This is interesting, as mine is also number 75...
This is interesting, as mine is also number 75... |
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Recommended Art Books, by Prescription Art on Jun 11, 2024 18:10:14 GMT 1, 
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Recommended Art Books, by kfroms on Jun 11, 2024 18:14:08 GMT 1, The books are all number 75!!
The books are all number 75!!
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kjg
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Recommended Art Books, by kjg on Jun 11, 2024 18:38:56 GMT 1, The books are all number 75!!
The books are all number 75!! Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75). |
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Recommended Art Books, by kfroms on Jun 11, 2024 18:42:08 GMT 1, The books are all number 75!! Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75).
The books are all number 75!! Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75). I know. It looked like Mr Prescription Art was surprised hence my post. |
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Recommended Art Books, by kjg on Jun 11, 2024 18:45:02 GMT 1, Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75). I know. It looked like Mr Prescription Art was surprised hence my post.
But I guess a lot of buyers made that mistake.
Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75). I know. It looked like Mr Prescription Art was surprised hence my post. OK :-) But I guess a lot of buyers made that mistake. |
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Recommended Art Books, by Lroy on Jun 11, 2024 18:50:46 GMT 1, I know. It looked like Mr Prescription Art was surprised hence my post. OK :-) But I guess a lot of buyers made that mistake.
I know. It looked like Mr Prescription Art was surprised hence my post. OK :-) But I guess a lot of buyers made that mistake. How much was the book and the print, they are nice. Sold out now |
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kjg
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Recommended Art Books, by kjg on Jun 11, 2024 18:53:08 GMT 1, The book was 40 euros, book and print 80 euros.
The book was 40 euros, book and print 80 euros.
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Recommended Art Books, by Lroy on Jun 11, 2024 19:57:06 GMT 1, The book was 40 euros, book and print 80 euros.
The book was 40 euros, book and print 80 euros. It was honest ! |
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Recommended Art Books, by kfroms on Jun 11, 2024 21:20:42 GMT 1, Book and print were 80 Euro
Book and print were 80 Euro
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Prescription Art
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Recommended Art Books, by Prescription Art on Jun 12, 2024 11:24:41 GMT 1, The books are all number 75!! Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75).
The books are all number 75!! Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75). I don't understand... why are they all numbered number 75? |
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Recommended Art Books, by trapnel1 on Jun 12, 2024 12:06:00 GMT 1, Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75). I don't understand... why are they all numbered number 75?
Of course they are. Nobody said that they would be numbered and/or numbered in order. Only the prints are numbered (from 1-75). I don't understand... why are they all numbered number 75? I think they are all meant to be bootleg copies of number 75 of the original edition? Although the whole endeavour has been a constant source of confusion.... |
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) I'm thinking to buy "How to Not Fuck Up Your Art-World Happiness", but I never read it, WDYT? Any suggestion it's really appreciated!
