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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by gravity1 on May 3, 2013 1:59:11 GMT 1, I 2nd that! Was just there trying to check some results and poof... it's gone.
What was that all about? If these guys want to be taken seriously as an auction house then they have to start acting like one. Having a auction finish and then just disappear is not a good way to treat the people who are propping up their very existence, transparency of sales is what art auctions are all about. Did anyone win anything? bid on anything? did you get more communication about the way the auction went?
I 2nd that! Was just there trying to check some results and poof... it's gone. What was that all about? If these guys want to be taken seriously as an auction house then they have to start acting like one. Having a auction finish and then just disappear is not a good way to treat the people who are propping up their very existence, transparency of sales is what art auctions are all about. Did anyone win anything? bid on anything? did you get more communication about the way the auction went? |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by daveart on May 3, 2013 14:08:33 GMT 1, i threw in bids on two items that did not meet the reserve. i received email last night asking if i wanted to make an additional offer to meet the reserve price. which i did not do. I did ask that if they just tell me the reserve price i might consider making an offer but not going to just bid against the house until some imaginary line is crossed.
i threw in bids on two items that did not meet the reserve. i received email last night asking if i wanted to make an additional offer to meet the reserve price. which i did not do. I did ask that if they just tell me the reserve price i might consider making an offer but not going to just bid against the house until some imaginary line is crossed.
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by dotdot on May 3, 2013 14:28:55 GMT 1, certainly look like something a good few folks were not expecting.
i never even signed up once i thought about how it looked from this bridge.
est high - story unclear - paddle8 ?
imho a few reputations tarnished by an event which will not stick in my mind for long.
shame really but -i'm not suprised.
now .. how many days till boc ?
certainly look like something a good few folks were not expecting.
i never even signed up once i thought about how it looked from this bridge.
est high - story unclear - paddle8 ?
imho a few reputations tarnished by an event which will not stick in my mind for long.
shame really but -i'm not suprised.
now .. how many days till boc ?
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by ambrosiabaptism on May 4, 2013 16:42:33 GMT 1, i threw in bids on two items that did not meet the reserve. i received email last night asking if i wanted to make an additional offer to meet the reserve price. which i did not do. I did ask that if they just tell me the reserve price i might consider making an offer but not going to just bid against the house until some imaginary line is crossed.
i threw in bids on two items that did not meet the reserve. i received email last night asking if i wanted to make an additional offer to meet the reserve price. which i did not do. I did ask that if they just tell me the reserve price i might consider making an offer but not going to just bid against the house until some imaginary line is crossed. What a waste of everybody's time a very sad state of affairs. Very poor show from the organisers if this is true. |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by craigf on May 4, 2013 21:28:23 GMT 1, Is it possible to see the final prices? I've not managed to when clicking through
Is it possible to see the final prices? I've not managed to when clicking through
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by urban art advisor on May 6, 2013 18:47:29 GMT 1, The auction was a great success with over $150,000 in sales. Thanks to all those who purchased, those who bid and those who allowed us to auction their works.
The Paddle8 formula, similar to Artnet.com auctions, is designed to protect the value of artworks in the market so auction results are never public. I believe artnet publishes results of their own auctions if lots do sell, but not if they don't. Either way our results will not be public, it's just not what we are doing.
With follow up sales on lots that did not meet reserve, we are very upfront about asking prices. Just send us an email and ask about any lot.
Our next auction will be an all Shepard Fairey sale in June and our next full Urban Art sale will be in July. We are currently accepting submissions for both sales.
Unlike the past sale we plan to put the catalogues online for at least a week prior to the sale dates as many bidders told us they wished they had more time to review the lots in the last sale. We are also working with Paddle8 to change the format so that auction items end one at a time, not all at once, to allow bidders to follow the end of several lots easier.
We love hearing your feedback and only hope to improve the system.
Please email info at urbanartadvisor dot com with submissions or comments.
The auction was a great success with over $150,000 in sales. Thanks to all those who purchased, those who bid and those who allowed us to auction their works.
The Paddle8 formula, similar to Artnet.com auctions, is designed to protect the value of artworks in the market so auction results are never public. I believe artnet publishes results of their own auctions if lots do sell, but not if they don't. Either way our results will not be public, it's just not what we are doing.
With follow up sales on lots that did not meet reserve, we are very upfront about asking prices. Just send us an email and ask about any lot.
Our next auction will be an all Shepard Fairey sale in June and our next full Urban Art sale will be in July. We are currently accepting submissions for both sales.
Unlike the past sale we plan to put the catalogues online for at least a week prior to the sale dates as many bidders told us they wished they had more time to review the lots in the last sale. We are also working with Paddle8 to change the format so that auction items end one at a time, not all at once, to allow bidders to follow the end of several lots easier.
We love hearing your feedback and only hope to improve the system.
Please email info at urbanartadvisor dot com with submissions or comments.
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by Collection 1 on May 26, 2013 20:48:55 GMT 1, Anyone bid at this Auction?!!!I bought a piece, sent 5 emails and no communication at all!!Not really respectful imo. It's been almost a month and I still don't know if the piece has beed shipped.I also paid an expensive 250$ for a 10" x 12" piece for a FED EX shipping from LA to Canada!!Really poor customer service.
Anyone bid at this Auction?!!!I bought a piece, sent 5 emails and no communication at all!!Not really respectful imo. It's been almost a month and I still don't know if the piece has beed shipped.I also paid an expensive 250$ for a 10" x 12" piece for a FED EX shipping from LA to Canada!!Really poor customer service.
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by Deleted on May 26, 2013 23:37:49 GMT 1, That doesn't sound very good at all... makes Paddle8 sound like naive bunch, very concerning!
That doesn't sound very good at all... makes Paddle8 sound like naive bunch, very concerning!
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by mmmike on May 27, 2013 1:40:52 GMT 1, I emailed them about a lot I was interested in. They didn't reply so I didn't bid.
Please keep us updated so we know if we should avoid the site.
I emailed them about a lot I was interested in. They didn't reply so I didn't bid.
Please keep us updated so we know if we should avoid the site.
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by doyle on May 30, 2013 0:13:03 GMT 1, Anyone bid at this Auction?!!!I bought a piece, sent 5 emails and no communication at all!!Not really respectful imo. It's been almost a month and I still don't know if the piece has beed shipped.I also paid an expensive 250$ for a 10" x 12" piece for a FED EX shipping from LA to Canada!!Really poor customer service.
I think urban art advisor are too busy smoozing in Berlin at their new gallery, BC Gallery. Looks like they've spent lots of time posting up about their gallery opening etc since your post and forgot about their buyers/enquiries from paddle8 auction. Complain to Paddle8 about this auction partnership and how it doesn't look good on them. Maybe they can get in touch with urban art advisor?Also could try emailing BC Gallery in Berlin and join and write a reminder on their Facebook page? Hope you hear from them soon.
Anyone bid at this Auction?!!!I bought a piece, sent 5 emails and no communication at all!!Not really respectful imo. It's been almost a month and I still don't know if the piece has beed shipped.I also paid an expensive 250$ for a 10" x 12" piece for a FED EX shipping from LA to Canada!!Really poor customer service. I think urban art advisor are too busy smoozing in Berlin at their new gallery, BC Gallery. Looks like they've spent lots of time posting up about their gallery opening etc since your post and forgot about their buyers/enquiries from paddle8 auction. Complain to Paddle8 about this auction partnership and how it doesn't look good on them. Maybe they can get in touch with urban art advisor?Also could try emailing BC Gallery in Berlin and join and write a reminder on their Facebook page? Hope you hear from them soon. |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by dreadnatty on Sept 5, 2013 3:28:06 GMT 1, BETTER DAYS AHEAD, 2013
Acrylic on paper
20 in x 16 in (50.8 cm x 40.64 cm)
Unique
Courtesy of The Artist
Signed
Estimate $16,000
its up to 12K(US)
paddle8.com/work/kaws/19823-better-days-ahead
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by brendan1985 on Sept 6, 2013 13:46:52 GMT 1, I don't get those paddle! item are always over price, what is the point to sell work from the gallery's?? they always have to put high estimate on the work
I don't get those paddle! item are always over price, what is the point to sell work from the gallery's?? they always have to put high estimate on the work I'm not sure I or anyone else is certain of what you are banging on about, But if you are referring to the fact that the paintings almost always go for well over the pre auction estimates, that is true. Those prices are merely there to "weed" out the passers by as the serious bidders are usually aware of roughly where the auction will end. |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by Wenters on Sept 6, 2013 15:00:43 GMT 1, It's at $26k with 10 days to go...
It's at $26k with 10 days to go...
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by lee3 on Sept 6, 2013 17:57:52 GMT 1, I have the impression that his work does better at lower price points than top. These insignificant works always go bonkers at these types of auctions. Yet as I think of a couple large canvases that sold at PdP and Christies they sold low in comparison to what this is going for. You can argue that the canvases at PdP weren't great, but neither is this. In fact I thought the black monochrome at PDp was a pretty nice piece, sold for about 150k usd? But when you consider this minor work on paper is going for practically 30k that canvas should have sold for much more. Makes me suspect that the big collectors don't share the same enthusiasm for him as the small time collectors do. Thanks to the great recession of 2008 I couldn't afford to buy a Kaws canvas even though I was offered some. Particularly stings now seeing people in a bidding frenzy over this thing which in my opinion is weak. I was offered some works at almost half this price and was much nicer. I couldn't care less about having this snoopy piece on my wall. 26k is just stupid money for this. People need their heads examined.
Fast forward less than 50 years later and the combined value of those 32 works would be near $150 million US and yet they went unsold in sum for what might have been $8k at the time. I find that body of work to be among the handful of his most powerful images and yet they were so polarizing and far ahead of their time that nobody wanted them on release. The point of my post is not to compare Kaws to Warhol but rather just an interesting aside to get the facts above out of my head as I'm still having difficulty digesting them. Your point about 26k for this snoopy being stupid money rings so true on one hand and yet you always have to consider the verdict that time may weigh. Like you, I see little value in that composition at that price but if (big if) Kaws' work stands the test of time that price will look silly by comparison just as you point out you had much better work at half that price a few short years ago.
I have the impression that his work does better at lower price points than top. These insignificant works always go bonkers at these types of auctions. Yet as I think of a couple large canvases that sold at PdP and Christies they sold low in comparison to what this is going for. You can argue that the canvases at PdP weren't great, but neither is this. In fact I thought the black monochrome at PDp was a pretty nice piece, sold for about 150k usd? But when you consider this minor work on paper is going for practically 30k that canvas should have sold for much more. Makes me suspect that the big collectors don't share the same enthusiasm for him as the small time collectors do. Thanks to the great recession of 2008 I couldn't afford to buy a Kaws canvas even though I was offered some. Particularly stings now seeing people in a bidding frenzy over this thing which in my opinion is weak. I was offered some works at almost half this price and was much nicer. I couldn't care less about having this snoopy piece on my wall. 26k is just stupid money for this. People need their heads examined. Interesting point, I don't collect Kaws but always interesting to look back over your shoulder. Your post reminds me of some reading I did last night on behalf of someone else as we were discussing the Warhol electric chairs with the silence in the corner. The question was how many were made and I opened the catalog raisonne to check and was fascinated with a paragraph of reading which I'll paraphrase. 32 canvases all measuring 22x28 inches in various rich colors painted in late '64 and hung for one month in a gallery in Toronto beginning March of '65. All 32 canvases were hung on one wall in 8 rows of 4 with spaces between each canvas to "reinforce the perception that they were individual works doubtlessly to facilitate sales, although it appears that few, if any, works sold from the show." Fast forward less than 50 years later and the combined value of those 32 works would be near $150 million US and yet they went unsold in sum for what might have been $8k at the time. I find that body of work to be among the handful of his most powerful images and yet they were so polarizing and far ahead of their time that nobody wanted them on release. The point of my post is not to compare Kaws to Warhol but rather just an interesting aside to get the facts above out of my head as I'm still having difficulty digesting them. Your point about 26k for this snoopy being stupid money rings so true on one hand and yet you always have to consider the verdict that time may weigh. Like you, I see little value in that composition at that price but if (big if) Kaws' work stands the test of time that price will look silly by comparison just as you point out you had much better work at half that price a few short years ago. |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 18:51:41 GMT 1, A little like 'Shoulda woulda coulda' but with hindsight and a little bit of sure thing stardust thrown in maybe. The things we should have bought in the past and for one reason or another,its scary to think!.
A little like 'Shoulda woulda coulda' but with hindsight and a little bit of sure thing stardust thrown in maybe. The things we should have bought in the past and for one reason or another,its scary to think!.
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by brendan1985 on Sept 17, 2013 5:50:24 GMT 1, does anyone know the final price on the KAWS? Did it stay at 26K?
does anyone know the final price on the KAWS? Did it stay at 26K?
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by brendan1985 on Sept 18, 2013 11:04:01 GMT 1, Interesting, If anyone can confirm or deny that would be great. I know it was suposse to go to a live auction after the online bidding but i never heard anything and cant find any info on it.
Interesting, If anyone can confirm or deny that would be great. I know it was suposse to go to a live auction after the online bidding but i never heard anything and cant find any info on it.
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by uglyyoungin on Sept 18, 2013 20:49:10 GMT 1,
Not surprised.... 
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by WOOF on Apr 12, 2014 2:18:56 GMT 1, Want that Mr. A that's also your avatar ha
Want that Mr. A that's also your avatar ha
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by skynet on Apr 12, 2014 4:30:45 GMT 1, Prices seem a bit inflated, but going to a great cause.
Prices seem a bit inflated, but going to a great cause.
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by Lesson1 on Apr 12, 2014 9:34:48 GMT 1, Want that Mr. A that's also your avatar ha
I have one framed already. I'll post it later. Looks great
Want that Mr. A that's also your avatar ha I have one framed already. I'll post it later. Looks great |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by WOOF on Apr 12, 2014 19:05:08 GMT 1, Want that Mr. A that's also your avatar ha I have one framed already. I'll post it later. Looks great
Please do!
Want that Mr. A that's also your avatar ha I have one framed already. I'll post it later. Looks great Please do! |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by Lesson1 on Apr 13, 2014 9:44:13 GMT 1, I have one framed already. I'll post it later. Looks great Please do! 
I have one framed already. I'll post it later. Looks great Please do! Done: |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by nacional on Jun 7, 2014 23:10:29 GMT 1, Have noticed that too...is there no way to access the sales prices???
Have noticed that too...is there no way to access the sales prices???
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by Philippe on Jun 17, 2014 16:28:36 GMT 1, Unfortunately not nacional. You have to be watching the auctions as they end.
Saw they added a couple Bast and Banksy pieces in this upcoming auction, paddle8.com/auctions/junecontemporary
Unfortunately not nacional. You have to be watching the auctions as they end. Saw they added a couple Bast and Banksy pieces in this upcoming auction, paddle8.com/auctions/junecontemporary |
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Paddle8 Auctions πΊπ² BANKRUPT , by foreman on Jun 17, 2014 17:58:47 GMT 1, Nice bast!
Nice bast!
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