Banksy reindeer in Birmingham

[drip]

Wait, I think I see how this is gonna go:


*Banksy uses actual homeless person in artwork to highlight homelessness*

'How DARE he use a homeless person in this way! Shame!!'

*Banksy uses actor to portray a homeless person in artwork to highlight homelessness*

'How DARE he use an actor in this way!! Shame!!!

[Rouen Cathedral]

Dec 9, 2019 22:11:57 GMT 1 drip said:

Wait, I think I've got this:


*Banksy uses actual homeless person in artwork to highlight homelessness*

'How DARE he use a homeless person in this way! Shame!!'

*Banksy uses actor to portray a homeless person in artwork to highlight homelessness*

'How DARE he use an actor in this way!! Shame!!!

Nope just the second one

[drip]

Dec 9, 2019 22:22:29 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Dec 9, 2019 22:11:57 GMT 1 drip said:

Wait, I think I've got this:


*Banksy uses actual homeless person in artwork to highlight homelessness*

'How DARE he use a homeless person in this way! Shame!!'

*Banksy uses actor to portray a homeless person in artwork to highlight homelessness*

'How DARE he use an actor in this way!! Shame!!!

Nope just the second one

Would it help to think of it as an advertisement? Advertising the desperate plight of the homeless this Christmas time? 

[Not 4 The Thril]

I think the concept of the image as a whole is powerful and makes you think.

once you break it down- it seems extremely staged- but i suppose that is part of the art.

Was Ryan sitting there the whole time while they painted it? Did he say- hey man can I film you for a video real quick. Just gonna make a little joke out of where you are sleeping. Or is Ryan someone else...

[drip]

Who painted more than one Reindeer with a red nose?? This isn't Comic Relief.

[drip]

I love stuff like this because it gets us talking and reminds me that, for some, the end does not justify the means. And the means don't justify the end. And the end doesn't justify the end. And the means don't justify the means. 

[drip]

If you live in any major UK city, and you walk for even 5 minutes through the city centre, you really shouldn't need artwork to show you there's a homeless issue out there. The actual homeless people should do that.

And another thing. Even if enough social housing existed (and it doesn't), this isn't an issue that can be fixed by chucking every homeless person and beggar into a flat and saying 'Enjoy!'. There's a whole multitude of issues that can lead a person down the path to rough sleeping or begging. You've got addiction issues, physical health issues, mental health issues, communication issues, flat-out poverty issues. People need a massive safety net of support and assistance to, not just get a place to live in, but to be able to keep it, thrive in it.

Austerity has cut so many services to the bone. People are working multiple jobs to make ends meet. People in work are reliant on benefits to make ends meet. Reliant on food banks for support. What does this kind of strain do to mental health? To keeping on top of bills? What does that do with regards to substance abuse? And once you're homeless, the extreme cold, medical neglect and danger of violence aside, how's your mental health going to fare then? Your use of alcohol of drugs? Then try accessing services and getting back on your feet again. Life in society can be really fcking hard. 
So many of us can fall through the cracks so easily. It doesn't take much to pull everything out from under you. And many of us didn't have much to begin with.

You cut services to save money, and you just kick the problem further down the road. You drop a whole bunch of pain onto people, you literally kill people, and then put even more strain onto your health service and police service. Something has to change.

[tab1]

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/did-banksys-latest-work-bring-misery-to-a-homeless-man-2246336.html

Another homeless person loses their spot

No sleep now

Last few xmas staff parties when it's snowing and cold in London I think about the homeless stuck all night in that weather, I've been gifting , leaving warm clothes in homeless spots this year..the good thing around my way , a lot of Sikh charities providing hot meals every night for the homeless.
Shallow that art has to bring attention to this when this is on your doorstep unlike the other banksy project which is abroad, many people chose to walk by and ignore .

[tab1]

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/did-banksys-latest-work-bring-misery-to-a-homeless-man-2246336.html

Another homeless person loses their spot

No sleep now

Last few xmas staff parties when it's snowing and cold in London I think about the homeless stuck all night in that weather, I've been gifting , leaving warm clothes in homeless spots this year..the good thing around my way , a lot of Sikh charities providing hot meals every night for the homeless.
Shallow that art has to bring attention to this when this is on your doorstep unlike the other banksy project which is abroad, many people chose to walk by and ignore .

[Deleted]

Dec 9, 2019 22:44:36 GMT 1 drip said:

If you live in any major UK city, and you walk for even 5 minutes through the city centre, you really shouldn't need artwork to show you there's a homeless issue out there. The actual homeless people should do that.

Only if people look.

Not many do, or do they?

[fuzzed]

Dec 9, 2019 22:35:04 GMT 1 Not 4 The Thril said:

I think the concept of the image as a whole is powerful and makes you think.

once you break it down- it seems extremely staged- but i suppose that is part of the art.

Was Ryan sitting there the whole time while they painted it? Did he say- hey man can I film you for a video real quick. Just gonna make a little joke out of where you are sleeping. Or is Ryan someone else...

Is the Brainwash image from ETTGS? 

[Terry Fuckwitt]

I think it's another fantastic work. Anything that brings awareness to the masses of homelessness can only be a good thing.
My youngest daughter who was 11 last year decided that she wanted to hand out mince pies to the homeless in our town just before Christmas. After a chat, we decided that we would make up some gift bags to hand out. Her head teacher was very touched so also helped by supplying cereal bars and snacks. We bought a load of gloves, scarves and hats as well as food and drinks and she wondered round the town with my partner just before Christmas handing them out. Didn't take a lot of effort to sort, but the appreciation of the homeless was quite overwhelming to her.

[chevyav53]

Not sure why everyone thinks this is so great.... makes it seem like Banksy is trying to send the homeless man to the North Pole to die as he would obviously freeze to death... what an arse

Let me have these reindeer pull this blight from my site. 

[Hairbland]

Dec 9, 2019 21:06:39 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Dec 9, 2019 19:59:17 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

One question- why do you bother?

Bothered?why would I be bothered. I like discussing art. Unfortunately too many like disgusting me more it seems. Lol

I say bother, you say bothered. Sea Lion. And a bit sad.

[denzil]

 photo taken yesterday 

See this Instagram photo by @smrfitnessuk

http://instagr.am/p/B54lrseDSBf

[inefficiency of]

Dec 10, 2019 9:32:27 GMT 1 denzil said:

 photo taken yesterday 

See this Instagram photo by @smrfitnessuk

http://instagr.am/p/B54lrseDSBf

Covering his face or just sleeping like that? 🤔

[cmc]

By the simple fact that we and many others are looking and thinking about those who mostly are ignored. Its enough for this work to be a success.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Dec 10, 2019 11:46:28 GMT 1 cmc said:

By the simple fact that we and many others are looking and thinking about those who mostly are ignored. Its enough for this work to be a success.

If it takes a banksy work for you to look and think about the homeless then you may want to expand your horizons. Just saying...

[Hairbland]

Dec 10, 2019 13:25:32 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Dec 10, 2019 11:46:28 GMT 1 cmc said:

By the simple fact that we and many others are looking and thinking about those who mostly are ignored. Its enough for this work to be a success.

If it takes a banksy work for you to look and think about the homeless then you may want to expand your horizons. Just saying...

You are misinterpreting what CMC said to propagate your narrative. Nobody said they need Banksy to think about the homeless. This particular work, as is usually the case with Banksy, has quickly created international press and the sharing of the work on Facebook. The word the press uses is poignant.

My belief is that people for the most part are aware of the homeless and have empathy for the homeless - the more reminders the better, particularly during a month of heightened shows of capitalism.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Dec 10, 2019 13:37:53 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

Dec 10, 2019 13:25:32 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

If it takes a banksy work for you to look and think about the homeless then you may want to expand your horizons. Just saying...

You are misinterpreting what CMC said to propagate your narrative. Nobody said they need Banksy to think about the homeless. This particular work, as is usually the case with Banksy, has quickly created international press and the sharing of the work on Facebook. The word the press uses is poignant.

My belief is that people for the most part are aware of the homeless and have empathy for the homeless - the more reminders the better, particularly during a month of heightened shows of capitalism.

It comes across as the old oh banksy is enlightening the world. Sure he does have works that bring attention to lesser known subjects. But this is not one of them.

Literally every church, charity, organization in the world focuses on the homeless at Christmas time.

[Hairbland]

Dec 10, 2019 13:43:52 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Dec 10, 2019 13:37:53 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

You are misinterpreting what CMC said to propagate your narrative. Nobody said they need Banksy to think about the homeless. This particular work, as is usually the case with Banksy, has quickly created international press and the sharing of the work on Facebook. The word the press uses is poignant.

My belief is that people for the most part are aware of the homeless and have empathy for the homeless - the more reminders the better, particularly during a month of heightened shows of capitalism.

It comes across as the old oh banksy is enlightening the world. Sure he does have works that bring attention to lesser known subjects. But this is not one of them.

Literally every church, charity, organization in the world focuses on the homeless at Christmas time.

Again, you literally enjoy being the contrarian creating a false narrative for no reason other than smug self satisfaction - an odd form of public masturbation, I don’t know about the UK/Europe but in the US the homeless problem worsens every year, despite what the churches, charities etc do. One would think that the more attention to this problem the better, and Banksy is one of many that can draw this attention. If a few wallets are opened due to things like this and what others do that is a good thing.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Dec 10, 2019 13:58:32 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

Dec 10, 2019 13:43:52 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

It comes across as the old oh banksy is enlightening the world. Sure he does have works that bring attention to lesser known subjects. But this is not one of them.

Literally every church, charity, organization in the world focuses on the homeless at Christmas time.

Again, you literally enjoy being the contrarian creating a false narrative for no reason other than smug self satisfaction - an odd form of public masturbation, I don’t know about the UK/Europe but in the US the homeless problem worsens every year, despite what the churches, charities etc do. One would think that the more attention to this problem the better, and Banksy is one of many that can draw this attention. If a few wallets are opened due to things like this and what others do that is a good thing.

Yes creating a false narrative.

Kind of like creating a staged homeless video with an actor?

Banksy has wonderful works that enlighten many to important issues. However this work is not one of them and falls flat on its face.

[atomone]

No red noses on either of those reindeers...

[mojo]

Dec 10, 2019 14:13:31 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Dec 10, 2019 13:58:32 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

Again, you literally enjoy being the contrarian creating a false narrative for no reason other than smug self satisfaction - an odd form of public masturbation, I don’t know about the UK/Europe but in the US the homeless problem worsens every year, despite what the churches, charities etc do. One would think that the more attention to this problem the better, and Banksy is one of many that can draw this attention. If a few wallets are opened due to things like this and what others do that is a good thing.

Yes creating a false narrative.

Kind of like creating a staged homeless video with an actor?

Banksy has wonderful works that enlighten many to important issues. However this work is not one of them and falls flat on its face.

I think its a great idea and will make a huge difference to raise awareness for people that need help.
Perhaps Banksy has been homeless in the past and can empathise with those that are currently in that predicament.  Stik was.
Even if 10% of the 6.9million IG users even acknowledge and help out a local homeless person it would make an enormous difference.  
If you are concerned about a homeless person in your area (UK) street link are very helpful, but its always best to talk with the person before calling them to ensure that its appropriate for them and won't scare them.  

[chefd]

Lroy is going to be really disappointed this wasnt painted on his wall.

Poor guy cant catch a break! :-)

[kashi]

bless you brummies

[Everyone Owes]

Have a Banksy Christmas: his Birmingham reindeer are an artistic miracle

www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/dec/10/banksy-birmingham-reindeer-homeless-art-christmas?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

[sycamore]

http://instagram.com/p/B552W0VHWWn

[Rouen Cathedral]

Dec 10, 2019 19:44:51 GMT 1 Everyone Owes said:

Have a Banksy Christmas: his Birmingham reindeer are an artistic miracle

www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/dec/10/banksy-birmingham-reindeer-homeless-art-christmas?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

What a gush fest.

In other news banksy duct taped a banana to a wall and has enlightened the world on responsible harvesting, global warming, and abuse of monkeys in zoos. Bravo 👏

[kjg]

Dec 10, 2019 20:55:41 GMT 1 sycamore said:

http://instagr.am/p/B552W0VHWWn

I want one!