[cnrdvln]

yes he clearly stats that he reproduces the GDP products himself with his mates

fair play to him, once its ear they are sold as reproductions etc

[Deleted]

Dec 23, 2020 12:15:54 GMT 1 cnrdvln said:

yes he clearly stats that he reproduces the GDP products himself with his mates

fair play to him, once its ear they are sold as reproductions etc

Someone is going to get mugged here. Once they realise they have been defrauded I hope they get the police involved.

[stereodista]

Dec 23, 2020 12:15:54 GMT 1 cnrdvln said:

yes he clearly stats that he reproduces the GDP products himself with his mates

fair play to him, once its ear they are sold as reproductions etc

Is it ‘fair play’, though? Or is it simply fraud? (It’s the latter.)

[Deleted]

Dec 23, 2020 19:26:48 GMT 1 stereodista said:

Dec 23, 2020 12:15:54 GMT 1 cnrdvln said:

yes he clearly stats that he reproduces the GDP products himself with his mates

fair play to him, once its ear they are sold as reproductions etc

Is it ‘fair play’, though? Or is it simply fraud? (It’s the latter.)

These are being sold as legitimate GDP items.

[Riotcops]

Dec 23, 2020 9:34:21 GMT 1 Nuno said:

Dec 23, 2020 8:54:36 GMT 1 ARN said:

How come?

If you had something worth £20-150k (guess) would you sell it on eBay in an auction with no reserve?

Is that what these are going for? Aren't these open? Weren't they a guaranteed item if you applied?

[frezza]

Dec 23, 2020 20:41:36 GMT 1 Riotcops said:

Dec 23, 2020 9:34:21 GMT 1 Nuno said:

If you had something worth £20-150k (guess) would you sell it on eBay in an auction with no reserve?

Is that what these are going for? Aren't these open? Weren't they a guaranteed item if you applied?

There were no guaranteed items even the open items weren’t guaranteed.

[stereodista]

Dec 23, 2020 19:30:08 GMT 1 @mammal100 said:

Dec 23, 2020 19:26:48 GMT 1 stereodista said:

Is it ‘fair play’, though? Or is it simply fraud? (It’s the latter.)

These are being sold as legitimate GDP items.

My point exactly. And Banksy’s original point with GDP was to stop this exact sort of shite from happening.

[Fast Eddie]

I had not seen those details about the cushions being hand-sprayed. Certainly, if these are outright fakes, this guy is taking big chances putting his picture on IG and all.

[bankersie]

These were supposedly the hardest thing for them to make, but I had a message from the shipping company today so it looks like they are finally ready. So it could be legit. Have to waits and see what the rest look like.

[thedolphin]

I can categorically say these are fake. There are two details in the photos that have been fabricated. Interestingly, some of the details he mentions are correct - it has been hand sprayed with car paint for instance. But the way he claims this has been communicated is false. I’d love to be more specific but if so, he will inevitably re-list with more accurate details making it harder to call out the fake... 10 points for his ability to market a fake as well as he has though. Impressed...

[tno]

Thanks to Banksy and GDP for nice christmas present and fast delivery. They are awesome. NFS. Hope you will like it...

[mark1]

Very nice, enjoy and remember don’t spill red wine on them 👌

[mark1]

Think looking at these maybe the eBay ones are legit and now at £12g...could you imagine how many cushions from IKEA that would get you

[dreadware]

Dec 23, 2020 22:34:11 GMT 1 mark1 said:

Think looking at these maybe the eBay ones are legit and now at £12g...could you imagine how many cushions from IKEA that would get you

The ones on Ebay have a white edge...I don't see that edge on the ones from above...

LE: at least in the first photo...the other ones don't have it, true

[mark1]

Scroll through the photos mate, the 1st shot is of the gdp window display

[kuni]

Dec 23, 2020 22:34:11 GMT 1 mark1 said:

Think looking at these maybe the eBay ones are legit and now at £12g...could you imagine how many cushions from IKEA that would get you

i inquired about the eBay cushions and asked if they would be able to provide emails from GDP and other paperwork to support authenticity. While not 100% dispositive I would say his answer does lend some credibility. Would be hard to fake a GDP lotto paper trail, no? 

[Winter]

It’s a no from me

[treblenobass]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Banksy-Original-Cushion-Set-Gross-Domestic-Product-In-Hand-Collect-Today-GDP/164600848749?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D18cdc81e2300487d9f3cec559fdac6e6%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D164600848749%26itm%3D164600848749%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Af0555b6e-45cd-11eb-9967-9e53382f7cae%7Cparentrq%3A942b55f11760ac3ec772f5d1ffe7d0df%7Ciid%3A1

another set here it seems.

[conrado]

Anybody from the US still waiting on their set?

[The Italian One]

what is the size edition on those?

[als33]

Dec 24, 2020 15:53:54 GMT 1 The Italian One said:

what is the size edition on those?

Unlimited according to the website, 50 according to the info card in Croydon.

Agree with thedolphin regarding the message about care as “off”. There were also 2 other things I picked up from the photos that were inconsistent with my experience. Like him though, I don’t want to help forgers forge, so I don’t want to detail them

[King and a Duck]

Hi all, I'm a longtime browser but have never posted before. From what I've seen of the set of cushions on eBay that are at £21k, I don't think they're fake but it's obviously alarming that he openly makes copies.

The reason I don't think they're fake is that I received my cushions today and everything he says is accurate. That's not to say I'd bid with any degree of confidence.

All I've used this forum for before has been to buy a Peter Blake print a few years ago... I feel very lucky (and slightly daunted) to have 'won' the cushions. I had no idea they'd be worth what people seem to be bidding!

[irl1]

Dec 24, 2020 21:24:45 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

Hi all, I'm a longtime browser but have never posted before. From what I've seen of the set of cushions on eBay that are at £21k, I don't think they're fake but it's obviously alarming that he openly makes copies.

The reason I don't think they're fake is that I received my cushions today and everything he says is accurate. That's not to say I'd bid with any degree of confidence.

All I've used this forum for before has been to buy a Peter Blake print a few years ago... I feel very lucky (and slightly daunted) to have 'won' the cushions. I had no idea they'd be worth what people seem to be bidding!

Why not use the other account you have to post this, and more to the point, you opened this one to let us know the cushions are real?

[King and a Duck]

In answer to your first question, I don't use the same email address anymore.

In answer to your second question, yes.

I'm sorry but what's with the 'guilty until proven innocent' mood of your message? I managed to get the cushions, I have a vested interest in seeing what they sell for. Therefore, if I see something being flagged as fake, that i believe looks legit, it's fair to point it out.

What you've done is assume i'm in cahoots with the forgers when really all I wanted to do was join the discussion.

[Sixty Bells]

Am I right in thinking that if the original purchaser sells these before pest control issues the certificate, they will forfeit any rights to a PC certificate in the future?

[tab1]

Dec 24, 2020 21:42:20 GMT 1 irl1 said:

Dec 24, 2020 21:24:45 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

Hi all, I'm a longtime browser but have never posted before. From what I've seen of the set of cushions on eBay that are at £21k, I don't think they're fake but it's obviously alarming that he openly makes copies.

The reason I don't think they're fake is that I received my cushions today and everything he says is accurate. That's not to say I'd bid with any degree of confidence.

All I've used this forum for before has been to buy a Peter Blake print a few years ago... I feel very lucky (and slightly daunted) to have 'won' the cushions. I had no idea they'd be worth what people seem to be bidding!

Why not use the other account you have to post this, and more to the point, you opened this one to let us know the cushions are real?

🥴

[irl1]

Dec 24, 2020 22:00:44 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

In answer to your first question, I don't use the same email address anymore.

In answer to your second question, yes.

I'm sorry but what's with the 'guilty until proven innocent' mood of your message? I managed to get the cushions, I have a vested interest in seeing what they sell for. Therefore, if I see something being flagged as fake, that i believe looks legit, it's fair to point it out.

What you've done is assume i'm in cahoots with the forgers when really all I wanted to do was join the discussion.

So you just thought you'd join up on Christmas Eve have a chat, hmm pull the other one.

[King and a Duck]

Correct.

[irl1]

Dec 24, 2020 22:14:56 GMT 1 Sixty Bells said:

Am I right in thinking that if the original purchaser sells these before pest control issues the certificate, they will forfeit any rights to a PC certificate in the future?

Nobody can tell what PC will do until next year. Yes you could go on Santas naughty list, but it should not affect you getting a COA for your GDP piece. 

Then again, I've been on Santas naughty list for over 50 years 

[Sixty Bells]

Dec 24, 2020 22:26:15 GMT 1 King and a Duck said:

Correct.

Man, someone’s ready to spend £26k on something that’s never going to be officially authenticated. Ouch