Heavyconsumer
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by Heavyconsumer on Mar 26, 2009 22:34:01 GMT 1, The sig' is a joke! I made contact with the buyer, warning them. It's absurd that Ebay can receive multiple, independant reports for an item, claiming it's fraudulent or counterfeit and still allow the auction to run. Why do they have the report option if they do not plan to use it to protect their customers?
The sig' is a joke! I made contact with the buyer, warning them. It's absurd that Ebay can receive multiple, independant reports for an item, claiming it's fraudulent or counterfeit and still allow the auction to run. Why do they have the report option if they do not plan to use it to protect their customers?
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by grantb on Apr 5, 2009 20:07:43 GMT 1, cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170316538829
after seeing this item i was wondering if i should bid on it or not. so i decided to go through the feedback. lots of copies of futura stuff so straight away he is in to re printing then i came across this which confirms to me to go no way near the banksy fiver.
Great A++++++++++++++++++++++
Buyer: spinks6130 ( 281)
21-Mar-09 11:14
Banksy Road Sign (#170308902526)
ยฃ264.99
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170316538829after seeing this item i was wondering if i should bid on it or not. so i decided to go through the feedback. lots of copies of futura stuff so straight away he is in to re printing then i came across this which confirms to me to go no way near the banksy fiver. Great A++++++++++++++++++++++ Buyer: spinks6130 ( 281) 21-Mar-09 11:14 Banksy Road Sign (#170308902526) ยฃ264.99
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by grantb on Apr 5, 2009 20:09:28 GMT 1, i could be wrong...but just being cautious for other.
i could be wrong...but just being cautious for other.
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by bullet on Apr 5, 2009 20:09:33 GMT 1, long way to find it on your car in London..
from omagh
long way to find it on your car in London..
from omagh
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by grantb on Apr 5, 2009 20:18:04 GMT 1, long way to find it on your car in London.. from omagh
was his brother 
long way to find it on your car in London.. from omagh was his brother |
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andypandy
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by dbnetherleigh on Apr 5, 2009 23:29:33 GMT 1, I've seen this guy sell this on the Bay before - only last time no poem, but some paint across the fiver that apparently showed up 'Banksy' when ultra-violet light was shone across it! Pretty unlikely hes gonna have two variations on the parking ticket for sale I would have thought - alarm bells ringing big time .........
I've seen this guy sell this on the Bay before - only last time no poem, but some paint across the fiver that apparently showed up 'Banksy' when ultra-violet light was shone across it! Pretty unlikely hes gonna have two variations on the parking ticket for sale I would have thought - alarm bells ringing big time .........
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anewspace
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by anewspace on Apr 6, 2009 8:41:28 GMT 1, To be fair - what would either of you experts know
To be fair - what would either of you experts know
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by bradpitt on Apr 6, 2009 8:45:53 GMT 1, Fakety fake fake, what would you know anewspace?
Fakety fake fake, what would you know anewspace?
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Heavyconsumer
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by Heavyconsumer on Apr 6, 2009 9:28:38 GMT 1, To be fair - what would either of you experts know
That's very friendly and constructive of you
To be fair - what would either of you experts know That's very friendly and constructive of you |
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by grantb on Apr 6, 2009 10:59:16 GMT 1, To be fair - what would either of you experts know
wasnt it a nice gesture of me to warn people ?
and i will do it again next time with my expert advice.
i did say i could be wrong but i did show previous scams.
honestly ?
To be fair - what would either of you experts know wasnt it a nice gesture of me to warn people ? and i will do it again next time with my expert advice. i did say i could be wrong but i did show previous scams. honestly ? |
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by andypandy on Apr 6, 2009 11:26:45 GMT 1, To be fair - what would either of you experts know
Judging from your website, probably about the same as you
To be fair - what would either of you experts know Judging from your website, probably about the same as you |
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anewspace
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by anewspace on Apr 6, 2009 12:11:49 GMT 1, to be honest there an awful lot of experts on the forum who really haven't a clue - there is no evidience on these being fake or real.
There is little or no information about the Banksy parking ticket. But instead we guys scanning ebay spotting the quality of one digital photo over another-from their expert view.
Your betting on good faith with ebay. If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund. But i'f be as wary of pundits and experts here as to many have a second agenda
to be honest there an awful lot of experts on the forum who really haven't a clue - there is no evidience on these being fake or real.
There is little or no information about the Banksy parking ticket. But instead we guys scanning ebay spotting the quality of one digital photo over another-from their expert view.
Your betting on good faith with ebay. If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund. But i'f be as wary of pundits and experts here as to many have a second agenda
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by Guest on Apr 6, 2009 12:33:17 GMT 1, IMO these are 100%
FAKE
IMO these are 100%
FAKE
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by holden on Apr 6, 2009 12:38:23 GMT 1, worth a fiver
worth a fiver
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by daveart on Apr 6, 2009 13:57:10 GMT 1, from above -anewspace- I hope you dont mind the quote
"If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund."
From my own painful experience - i can assure all of you.. paypal will not refund your money based on something being misrepresented. they will simply label it a buyer/seller dispute and back away. The only way paypal will step in is in the event your account was compromised. ie. someone used your account to buy something. Do not rely on paypal (remember that paypal is essentially ebay) to mediate or provide assistance to you if you buy something that is misrepresented. My eperience had a somewhat happy ending in that the credit card i used to pay the papal balance did have a fraud protection clause. i encourage all of you buying through ebay to check your credit card fraud protection verbiage. i was successfully able to argue fraud with the credit card company and received money back on the value of the piece but not the shipping or incidentals. i hope this all saves someone pain in the future. bottom line .. unless you directly get information from paypal saying their rules have changed... they do not provide fraud protection between seller and buyer.
from above -anewspace- I hope you dont mind the quote
"If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund."
From my own painful experience - i can assure all of you.. paypal will not refund your money based on something being misrepresented. they will simply label it a buyer/seller dispute and back away. The only way paypal will step in is in the event your account was compromised. ie. someone used your account to buy something. Do not rely on paypal (remember that paypal is essentially ebay) to mediate or provide assistance to you if you buy something that is misrepresented. My eperience had a somewhat happy ending in that the credit card i used to pay the papal balance did have a fraud protection clause. i encourage all of you buying through ebay to check your credit card fraud protection verbiage. i was successfully able to argue fraud with the credit card company and received money back on the value of the piece but not the shipping or incidentals. i hope this all saves someone pain in the future. bottom line .. unless you directly get information from paypal saying their rules have changed... they do not provide fraud protection between seller and buyer.
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by howies on Apr 6, 2009 14:15:14 GMT 1, I do not understand why anyone would pay that kind of money, for something you can get absolutely no guarantee on, only a strangers word that a "friend" of his (why do the sellers never find these) found it on the street.
I mean if you want one so bad buy the stencil rip down a sign and give it a spray yourself
I do not understand why anyone would pay that kind of money, for something you can get absolutely no guarantee on, only a strangers word that a "friend" of his (why do the sellers never find these) found it on the street. I mean if you want one so bad buy the stencil rip down a sign and give it a spray yourself |
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by grantb on Apr 6, 2009 16:14:35 GMT 1, to be honest there an awful lot of experts on the forum who really haven't a clue - there is no evidience on these being fake or real. There is little or no information about the Banksy parking ticket. But instead we guys scanning ebay spotting the quality of one digital photo over another-from their expert view. Your betting on good faith with ebay. If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund. But i'f be as wary of pundits and experts here as to many have a second agenda
scanning his feedback yes to see fake banksy items and reproductions of other art.
to be honest there an awful lot of experts on the forum who really haven't a clue - there is no evidience on these being fake or real. There is little or no information about the Banksy parking ticket. But instead we guys scanning ebay spotting the quality of one digital photo over another-from their expert view. Your betting on good faith with ebay. If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund. But i'f be as wary of pundits and experts here as to many have a second agenda scanning his feedback yes to see fake banksy items and reproductions of other art. |
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by puppyjuppy on Apr 6, 2009 16:39:23 GMT 1, to be honest there an awful lot of experts on the forum who really haven't a clue - there is no evidience on these being fake or real. There is little or no information about the Banksy parking ticket. But instead we guys scanning ebay spotting the quality of one digital photo over another-from their expert view. Your betting on good faith with ebay. If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund. But i'f be as wary of pundits and experts here as to many have a second agenda
I may be on my own here and excuse me if i sound rude but with the greatest of respect..
..What on earth are you talking about?
A respected forum member is just trying to give other forum members the heads-up that there is a blatant banksy rip-off being sold on ebay.
You think because you are classified as a gallery it gives you carte-blanche to criticise this good-doer as someone who thinks he's a so called expert and that may have a second agenda.
As a so-called gallery owner surely you wouldnt entertain such dribble let alone provoke it?
Very strange.
to be honest there an awful lot of experts on the forum who really haven't a clue - there is no evidience on these being fake or real. There is little or no information about the Banksy parking ticket. But instead we guys scanning ebay spotting the quality of one digital photo over another-from their expert view. Your betting on good faith with ebay. If it is fake unless you've paid by paypal its impossible to get a refund. But i'f be as wary of pundits and experts here as to many have a second agenda I may be on my own here and excuse me if i sound rude but with the greatest of respect.. ..What on earth are you talking about? A respected forum member is just trying to give other forum members the heads-up that there is a blatant banksy rip-off being sold on ebay. You think because you are classified as a gallery it gives you carte-blanche to criticise this good-doer as someone who thinks he's a so called expert and that may have a second agenda. As a so-called gallery owner surely you wouldnt entertain such dribble let alone provoke it? Very strange. |
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Heavyconsumer
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by Heavyconsumer on Apr 6, 2009 17:09:31 GMT 1, If I were the owner of a gallery and one of my employees posted something like you did above under my company's name, in a forum like this, I'd sack them on the spot for gross incompetence! It sure is a questionable way to represent yourself in a forum full of hundreds/thousands of potential clients and proven buyers, to set about insulting them without reason. I guess your business must be booming at the moment, must be nice! On the other hand, maybe you're just not very expert!
BMG did something similar recently and almost immediately withdrew the post, but you've just tried to justify it with a bullsh1t reason, which is not valid at all, as the original poster (and recipient of your insult), made it 100% clear he was unsure and this seller's legitimacey when it comes to "original" art products is absolutely dodgy as fvck as he has sold a Banksy road sign in the past a well as bootleg Futura images. It's pretty difficult to argue with anything in the original post imo! What's your expert view on that?
If I were the owner of a gallery and one of my employees posted something like you did above under my company's name, in a forum like this, I'd sack them on the spot for gross incompetence! It sure is a questionable way to represent yourself in a forum full of hundreds/thousands of potential clients and proven buyers, to set about insulting them without reason. I guess your business must be booming at the moment, must be nice! On the other hand, maybe you're just not very expert!
BMG did something similar recently and almost immediately withdrew the post, but you've just tried to justify it with a bullsh1t reason, which is not valid at all, as the original poster (and recipient of your insult), made it 100% clear he was unsure and this seller's legitimacey when it comes to "original" art products is absolutely dodgy as fvck as he has sold a Banksy road sign in the past a well as bootleg Futura images. It's pretty difficult to argue with anything in the original post imo! What's your expert view on that?
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by jusdeep on Apr 6, 2009 17:49:49 GMT 1,  lol
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by dbnetherleigh on Apr 6, 2009 18:47:31 GMT 1, Just for the record I thought all the previous comments made on the parking ticket were valid - I personally wasn't saying anything other than if I was in the market to buy it, alarm bells would be ringing. Certainly don't appreciate the condescending reply from 'anewspace' gallery - and I don't have a hidden agenda, as bizarrely suggested! Only making my own view on the item clear, take it or leave it, I don't care - just cause I'm relatively new to the forum doesn't mean I don't a valid opinion ......
Just for the record I thought all the previous comments made on the parking ticket were valid - I personally wasn't saying anything other than if I was in the market to buy it, alarm bells would be ringing. Certainly don't appreciate the condescending reply from 'anewspace' gallery - and I don't have a hidden agenda, as bizarrely suggested! Only making my own view on the item clear, take it or leave it, I don't care - just cause I'm relatively new to the forum doesn't mean I don't a valid opinion ......
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by puppyjuppy on Apr 6, 2009 19:23:54 GMT 1, Just for the record I thought all the previous comments made on the parking ticket were valid - I personally wasn't saying anything other than if I was in the market to buy it, alarm bells would be ringing. Certainly don't appreciate the condescending reply from 'anewspace' gallery - and I don't have a hidden agenda, as bizarrely suggested! Only making my own view on the item clear, take it or leave it, I don't care - just cause I'm relatively new to the forum doesn't mean I don't a valid opinion ......
Precisely my points sir
Just for the record I thought all the previous comments made on the parking ticket were valid - I personally wasn't saying anything other than if I was in the market to buy it, alarm bells would be ringing. Certainly don't appreciate the condescending reply from 'anewspace' gallery - and I don't have a hidden agenda, as bizarrely suggested! Only making my own view on the item clear, take it or leave it, I don't care - just cause I'm relatively new to the forum doesn't mean I don't a valid opinion ...... Precisely my points sir |
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by dynamixx on Apr 7, 2009 23:05:25 GMT 1, "anewspace" - > cheers for the laugh dude! The blue text of authority speaketh, listen up inferiors for god sakes and get investing in these fivers, they're the future people.
Perhaps not.
heavyconsumer & puppyjuppy & come to think of it everyone else on this thread is spot on
"anewspace" - > cheers for the laugh dude! The blue text of authority speaketh, listen up inferiors for god sakes and get investing in these fivers, they're the future people.
Perhaps not.
heavyconsumer & puppyjuppy & come to think of it everyone else on this thread is spot on
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by Maxie on Apr 8, 2009 10:36:00 GMT 1, dear oh dear - here we go again! : )
dear oh dear - here we go again! : )
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by robinbanks on Apr 8, 2009 11:08:25 GMT 1, dear oh dear - here we go again! : )
Would that be the thedon as in tinternetdon?
dear oh dear - here we go again! : ) Would that be the the don as in tinternet don? |
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by funyoung on Apr 12, 2009 17:32:35 GMT 1, maybe 'anewspace' wants to become 'anemptyspace'?
maybe 'anewspace' wants to become 'anemptyspace'?
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Heavyconsumer
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by Heavyconsumer on Apr 13, 2009 1:44:15 GMT 1, maybe 'anewspace' wants to become 'anemptyspace'?
;D
maybe 'anewspace' wants to become 'anemptyspace'? ;D |
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Banksy's on eBay โข Real or Fake?, by Guest on Jul 1, 2009 13:22:42 GMT 1, Totally agree about the thread, but maybe a little common sense on the part of buyers is in order. I seriously cant believe that anyone with an interest in Banksy would be fooled into buying these from a 0 feedback seller with multiple works of the same stencil.
And these should be reported to ebay.
Totally agree about the thread, but maybe a little common sense on the part of buyers is in order. I seriously cant believe that anyone with an interest in Banksy would be fooled into buying these from a 0 feedback seller with multiple works of the same stencil.
And these should be reported to ebay.
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