[orchid]

Jul 16, 2019 16:16:59 GMT 1 blerd said:

Jul 16, 2019 15:10:12 GMT 1 Inknart said:

I have. James is going to try and collect the piece before Mark at PFG leaves this weekend for a month. 

perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. 

Why? Are you for censorship?

[Deleted]

Jul 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT 1 orchid said:

Jul 16, 2019 16:16:59 GMT 1 blerd said:

perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. 

Why? Are you for censorship?

I am, Big hairy backs really should be covered

[blerd]

Jul 16, 2019 16:42:27 GMT 1 @manty100 said:

Jul 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT 1 orchid said:

Why? Are you for censorship?

I am, Big hairy backs really should be covered

yeah! socks and sandals too. 

[blerd]

Jul 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT 1 orchid said:

Jul 16, 2019 16:16:59 GMT 1 blerd said:

perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. 

Why? Are you for censorship?

Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. 

[Dive Jedi]

Jul 16, 2019 17:11:44 GMT 1 blerd said:

Jul 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT 1 orchid said:

Why? Are you for censorship?

Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. 

I'm sure he does. But he started it..... Now it's here to stay.

[Deleted]

Jul 16, 2019 17:23:17 GMT 1 Dive Jedi said:

Jul 16, 2019 17:11:44 GMT 1 blerd said:

Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. 

I'm sure he does. But he started it..... Now it's here to stay.

I doubt the OP is bothered either way.  But I'm sure P.A. is.

[orchid]

Jul 16, 2019 17:11:44 GMT 1 blerd said:

Jul 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT 1 orchid said:

Why? Are you for censorship?

Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. 

Exactly. So it should be informative to buyers and galleries alike on pitfalls to avoid.

[Segment]

Where i'm from talk is cheap, if a witch hunt is what you want then a witch hunt it is!

I live near PA and thought id pay James a visit today to teach him a lesson.

That'l learn him eh... 

[iamzero]

Is that a new Pest Control COA? No more Di Faced tenners.

[19818914]

Jul 16, 2019 17:52:26 GMT 1 Segment said:

Where i'm from talk is cheap, if a witch hunt is what you want then a witch hunt it is!

I live near PA and thought id pay James a visit today to teach him a lesson.

That'l learn him eh... 

That’s clearly a fake. Banksy prints are filled with glitter.

[blerd]

Jul 16, 2019 17:51:20 GMT 1 orchid said:

Jul 16, 2019 17:11:44 GMT 1 blerd said:

Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. 

Exactly. So it should be informative to buyers and galleries alike on pitfalls to avoid.

Exactly!? I think this thread should be deleted and the Op agrees. A sticky with pitfalls makes sense though.  

[blerd]

Jul 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT 1 orchid said:

Jul 16, 2019 16:16:59 GMT 1 blerd said:

perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. 

Why? Are you for censorship?

I love the drama of this statement. You must have some long days. 

[orchid]

Jul 16, 2019 18:06:42 GMT 1 blerd said:

Jul 16, 2019 17:51:20 GMT 1 orchid said:

Exactly. So it should be informative to buyers and galleries alike on pitfalls to avoid.

Exactly!? I think this thread should be deleted and the Op agrees. A sticky with pitfalls makes sense though.  

Too late bruv

[blerd]

Jul 16, 2019 18:36:49 GMT 1 orchid said:

Jul 16, 2019 18:06:42 GMT 1 blerd said:

Exactly!? I think this thread should be deleted and the Op agrees. A sticky with pitfalls makes sense though.  

Too late bruv

Pejac?

[lorraballs]

Jul 16, 2019 17:23:17 GMT 1 Dive Jedi said:

Jul 16, 2019 17:11:44 GMT 1 blerd said:

Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. 

I'm sure he does. But he started it..... Now it's here to stay.

You must be new here...

[Deleted]

Nothing should ever be deleted. This thread serves as a good warning for people when dealing with galleries.

Always ask for good quality pictures of both the front and the back of prints. Don't let them get away with 'yeah it's mint'. As you can see in this thread, they WILL lie to you sometimes. They can either hide the fact that there's damage, or hide the fact that it's on consignment and they haven't seen the print at all. Just remember to ask yourself - would you buy a 20k car without even seeing it first?

And yes, this will mean that some galleries will ignore your questions or requests for pictures and just ghost you. Prescription Art did that with me. But then you have the peace of mind that there was in fact something wrong with the print, and the gallery just couldn't be bothered to be honest with you. Blacklist them in your head and move on.

[Rouen Cathedral]

Jul 16, 2019 22:24:14 GMT 1 @blanksky said:

Nothing should ever be deleted. This thread serves as a good warning for people when dealing with galleries.

Always ask for good quality pictures of both the front and the back of prints. Don't let them get away with 'yeah it's mint'. As you can see in this thread, they WILL lie to you sometimes. They can either hide the fact that there's damage, or hide the fact that it's on consignment and they haven't seen the print at all. Just remember to ask yourself - would you buy a 20k car without even seeing it first?

And yes, this will mean that some galleries will ignore your questions or requests for pictures and just ghost you. Prescription Art did that with me. But then you have the peace of mind that there was in fact something wrong with the print, and the gallery just couldn't be bothered to be honest with you. Blacklist them in your head and move on.

Also a good thread to understand that unless you can respond to a message immediately you will likely be called out via forum, twitter, instagram or good old Facebook live.

When dealing with sums over 10k immediate response is mandatory or you are a bum...

[nex]

Jul 16, 2019 22:51:15 GMT 1 geester said:

Jul 16, 2019 22:44:04 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Also a good thread to understand that unless you can respond to a message immediately you will likely be called out via forum, twitter, instagram or good old Facebook live.

When dealing with sums over 10k immediate response is mandatory or you are a bum...

He started this thread because he'd been getting no response for 5 days after sending the gallery 20k. He then didn't get a response for 3 days after things had gone tits up. Pretty patient in my opinion given the sum involved and the messed up situation. I'm not sure where you're getting this immediate response bit from but you might want to read the thread again, slowly.

Perhaps you need to go back and read the tread slowly?

‘I offered a full refund straight away when I heard the customer wasn't happy. Which was YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I don't have the print back, and haven't seen what the problems are for myself, so it's very hard to comment any further on’

[Inknart]

Jul 16, 2019 23:08:27 GMT 1 nex said:

Jul 16, 2019 22:51:15 GMT 1 geester said:

He started this thread because he'd been getting no response for 5 days after sending the gallery 20k. He then didn't get a response for 3 days after things had gone tits up. Pretty patient in my opinion given the sum involved and the messed up situation. I'm not sure where you're getting this immediate response bit from but you might want to read the thread again, slowly.

Perhaps you need to go back and read the tread slowly?

‘I offered a full refund straight away when I heard the customer wasn't happy. Which was YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I don't have the print back, and haven't seen what the problems are for myself, so it's very hard to comment any further on’

The problem was that he did not know when he would have money to Refund. This is the issue, not the fact that I wouldn't be offered a refund, but as to when the funds would be available to do so. 

The piece is supposed to be picked up Sunday. I'm seeing if I can't find a courier to pay to deliver it back by hand. PFG did an amazing job documenting each piece he received on my behalf, about 20 pictures of the entire piece being unpacked at each step from both tubes. 

If it doesn't get delivered back by Sunday, I've been advised not to ship it back as it's only 1.5 hours away by multiple attorneys on here via PM. 

[Unica]

Should be simple pay for a courier service to deliver it to PA, won't cost much. If that's the problem, why not do that?

[Inknart]

Jul 16, 2019 23:26:28 GMT 1 Unica said:

Should be simple pay for a courier service to deliver it to PA, won't cost much. If that's the problem, why not do that?

I just asked James if he knew anyone and that I would pay to have it expedited. 

[nex]

Jul 16, 2019 23:29:16 GMT 1 Inknart said:

Jul 16, 2019 23:26:28 GMT 1 Unica said:

Should be simple pay for a courier service to deliver it to PA, won't cost much. If that's the problem, why not do that?

I just asked James if he knew anyone and that I would pay to have it expedited. 

Flight logistics

[Dexter Bulldog]

The most interesting thing I read in this thread (a dozen or two times) is that mark from pfg is leaving for a month. I want that job.

[Unica]

Jul 16, 2019 23:30:28 GMT 1 nex said:

Jul 16, 2019 23:29:16 GMT 1 Inknart said:

I just asked James if he knew anyone and that I would pay to have it expedited. 

Flight logistics

Yes, Flight Logistics. Talk to Steve he will sort it, call today as pick up can take a day or so.

[Winks]

Jul 16, 2019 23:08:27 GMT 1 nex said:

Jul 16, 2019 22:51:15 GMT 1 geester said:

He started this thread because he'd been getting no response for 5 days after sending the gallery 20k. He then didn't get a response for 3 days after things had gone tits up. Pretty patient in my opinion given the sum involved and the messed up situation. I'm not sure where you're getting this immediate response bit from but you might want to read the thread again, slowly.

Perhaps you need to go back and read the tread slowly?

‘I offered a full refund straight away when I heard the customer wasn't happy. Which was YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I don't have the print back, and haven't seen what the problems are for myself, so it's very hard to comment any further on’

Bearing in mind the $20k print was sent out as perfect when it was trimmed and damaged the “haven’t received the print back” excuse is lame. The print is 1 3/4 hrs away and a car trip or flight logistics would have seen the print back in no time. The gallery should have organised this. The question of whether the funds are available to refund is a whole different can of worms.

Now I’m pretty damn sure you’ve read the thread slowly but you don’t appear to understand the pertinent facts in this matter. You prefer to bleat on about timescales and the ills of social media.

Now you’re either being obtuse or you perceive you have something to gain from siding with the gallery. In view of your standard bearing for flippers on here and your penchant for a quick profit, I would suggest the latter.

[nex]

Jul 17, 2019 9:19:10 GMT 1 Winks said:

Jul 16, 2019 23:08:27 GMT 1 nex said:

Perhaps you need to go back and read the tread slowly?

‘I offered a full refund straight away when I heard the customer wasn't happy. Which was YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. I don't have the print back, and haven't seen what the problems are for myself, so it's very hard to comment any further on’

Bearing in mind the $20k print was sent out as perfect when it was trimmed and damaged the “haven’t received the print back” excuse is lame. The print is 1 3/4 hrs away and a car trip or flight logistics would have seen the print back in no time. The gallery should have organised this. The question of whether the funds are available to refund is a whole different can of worms.

Now I’m pretty damn sure you’ve read the thread slowly but you don’t appear to understand the pertinent facts in this matter. You prefer to bleat on about timescales and the ills of social media.

Now you’re either being obtuse or you perceive you have something to gain from siding with the gallery. In view of your standard bearing for flippers on here and your penchant for a quick profit, I would suggest the latter.

Nothing to gain at all - don’t think I’ve bought anything from said gallery - I just think given the timeframe, this didn’t need to be aired until some basics had been ‘run through’ ie. print returned, private discussion of grievances, way forward (or lack there of) known.... etc etc

As I and others stated elsewhere - print ‘condition’ isn’t a simple bad/good quality some are making out.

Talk privately, then air here if it was unsatisfactory- that is all.

[Winks]

Jul 17, 2019 10:46:09 GMT 1 nex said:

Jul 17, 2019 9:19:10 GMT 1 Winks said:

Bearing in mind the $20k print was sent out as perfect when it was trimmed and damaged the “haven’t received the print back” excuse is lame. The print is 1 3/4 hrs away and a car trip or flight logistics would have seen the print back in no time. The gallery should have organised this. The question of whether the funds are available to refund is a whole different can of worms.

Now I’m pretty damn sure you’ve read the thread slowly but you don’t appear to understand the pertinent facts in this matter. You prefer to bleat on about timescales and the ills of social media.

Now you’re either being obtuse or you perceive you have something to gain from siding with the gallery. In view of your standard bearing for flippers on here and your penchant for a quick profit, I would suggest the latter.

Nothing to gain at all - don’t think I’ve bought anything from said gallery - I just think given the timeframe, this didn’t need to be aired until some basics had been ‘run through’ ie. print returned, private discussion of grievances, way forward (or lack there of) known.... etc etc

As I and others stated elsewhere - print ‘condition’ isn’t a simple bad/good quality some are making out.

Talk privately, then air here if it was unsatisfactory- that is all.

...and what I’m saying is bend over backwards to keep the customer happy, collect the bloody print yourself, don’t say you’re too busy, don’t say it’s perfect when it isn’t, don’t come on here cursing and offering sarcasm, and answer your messages.

[Deleted]

Jul 17, 2019 3:16:43 GMT 1 Dexter Bulldog said:

The most interesting thing I read in this thread (a dozen or two times) is that mark from pfg is leaving for a month. I want that job.

He's gone to spend the commission money on that 20K sale.

Nice work if you can get it.

[Deleted]

Jul 17, 2019 3:16:43 GMT 1 Dexter Bulldog said:

The most interesting thing I read in this thread (a dozen or two times) is that mark from pfg is leaving for a month. I want that job.

he is going into hospital for an operation to get his life long troublesome piles taken care of and the rest of the time he is sat on a rubber ring watching episodes of Columbo. Or at least thats what I heard on an internet somewhere.

[rebate]

Jul 17, 2019 11:05:26 GMT 1 @markiemark said:

He's gone to spend the commission money on that 20K sale.

Nice work if you can get it.

Oh dear. Wong as ever, framers dont get commission. You realy dont ever read anything properly do you. We all do it now and then, but with you its almost every time!!