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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by Run Pig Run on Apr 24, 2008 20:06:12 GMT 1, whoever buys this is likely to scibble a number on it and re-sell it on ebay........note to self: in the future watch out for a numbered LITA with a crease in the corner and no prov.
whoever buys this is likely to scibble a number on it and re-sell it on ebay........note to self: in the future watch out for a numbered LITA with a crease in the corner and no prov.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by doublehelix on Apr 24, 2008 20:27:52 GMT 1, Blimey, that's some expensive backdoor action!
Blimey, that's some expensive backdoor action!
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by leader999 on Apr 26, 2008 17:49:10 GMT 1, Hi.
Can anyone please tell me what a back door print is.
Thanks
Hi.
Can anyone please tell me what a back door print is.
Thanks
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 17:53:03 GMT 1, a print that goes out the back door - ie unnumbered, unsigned, it doesnt exist!!
a print that goes out the back door - ie unnumbered, unsigned, it doesnt exist!!
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by leader999 on Apr 26, 2008 18:07:05 GMT 1, a print that goes out the back door - ie unnumbered, unsigned, it doesnt exist!!
so they are real/original prints just over runs from the numbered edition? i have tracked a few on e bay and they go for around £500 so they must be from the original runs but just not numbered or signed. I have also seen signed prints with no numbers. There was one at the last bonhams auction.
a print that goes out the back door - ie unnumbered, unsigned, it doesnt exist!! so they are real/original prints just over runs from the numbered edition? i have tracked a few on e bay and they go for around £500 so they must be from the original runs but just not numbered or signed. I have also seen signed prints with no numbers. There was one at the last bonhams auction. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 18:08:38 GMT 1, which prints are you referring to leader?
which prints are you referring to leader?
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by leader999 on Apr 26, 2008 18:11:44 GMT 1, which prints are you referring to leader?
Sorry...Banksy prints. the early ones
which prints are you referring to leader? Sorry...Banksy prints. the early ones |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by GD303uk on Apr 26, 2008 18:13:43 GMT 1, back door brummie, made more banksy prints than where asked for and sold them himself, they are not official but are the same as the official run, paper, ink etc., his actions led to Banksy prints being made at POW,
i think, correct me if i am wrong.
back door brummie, made more banksy prints than where asked for and sold them himself, they are not official but are the same as the official run, paper, ink etc., his actions led to Banksy prints being made at POW,
i think, correct me if i am wrong.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by leader999 on Apr 26, 2008 18:30:34 GMT 1, back door brummie, made more banksy prints than where asked for and sold them himself, they are not official but are the same as the official run, paper, ink etc., his actions led to Banksy prints being made at POW, i think, correct me if i am wrong.
Would that be mission prints? when did POW take over? was it later than the bomb huggers and laugh now's?
back door brummie, made more banksy prints than where asked for and sold them himself, they are not official but are the same as the official run, paper, ink etc., his actions led to Banksy prints being made at POW, i think, correct me if i am wrong. Would that be mission prints? when did POW take over? was it later than the bomb huggers and laugh now's? |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by leader999 on Apr 26, 2008 22:09:15 GMT 1, back door brummie, made more banksy prints than where asked for and sold them himself, they are not official but are the same as the official run, paper, ink etc., his actions led to Banksy prints being made at POW, i think, correct me if i am wrong.
Who is back door brummie?
back door brummie, made more banksy prints than where asked for and sold them himself, they are not official but are the same as the official run, paper, ink etc., his actions led to Banksy prints being made at POW, i think, correct me if i am wrong. Who is back door brummie? |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by pezlow on Apr 26, 2008 22:14:29 GMT 1, Hi. Can anyone please tell me what a back door print is. Thanks
It's a screenprint which may or may not have been made at the same time as the proper run. But of course there is no way of proving this so it has no provenance and thus no long term intrinsic value and should be treated as a poster.
Hi. Can anyone please tell me what a back door print is. Thanks It's a screenprint which may or may not have been made at the same time as the proper run. But of course there is no way of proving this so it has no provenance and thus no long term intrinsic value and should be treated as a poster. |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by poofly on Apr 26, 2008 22:24:37 GMT 1, Could it be that when you send back prints to POW if damaged in the post and they give you another, could this be where these come in?
Just a thought, probably a poor one but a thought nonetheless.
Could it be that when you send back prints to POW if damaged in the post and they give you another, could this be where these come in?
Just a thought, probably a poor one but a thought nonetheless.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by AxB on Apr 26, 2008 22:31:48 GMT 1, its a thought you should probably clarify as it sounds like your making unwise accusations
its a thought you should probably clarify as it sounds like your making unwise accusations
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 26, 2008 22:44:52 GMT 1, Thankfully I like posters. Are prints with numbers and signatures on them not just 'rich men's posters' then?
As for the quote - "no long term intrinsic value" - who cares about the value if your love is art. I love the pictures I have, therefore if they are either a poster, a print, a back door print a doodle or even a canvas it makes not a blind bit of difference as they will brighten up a wall.
But then again the reason I like my backdoor prints (or poster wanting to be) is because there is no way I could afford an HMV or MQ.
But thanks to my mate in Brum I have two images that I like very much for the price of a 'Blu' print from POW. I know which I'd rather have adorning my wall!
Thankfully I like posters. Are prints with numbers and signatures on them not just 'rich men's posters' then?
As for the quote - "no long term intrinsic value" - who cares about the value if your love is art. I love the pictures I have, therefore if they are either a poster, a print, a back door print a doodle or even a canvas it makes not a blind bit of difference as they will brighten up a wall.
But then again the reason I like my backdoor prints (or poster wanting to be) is because there is no way I could afford an HMV or MQ.
But thanks to my mate in Brum I have two images that I like very much for the price of a 'Blu' print from POW. I know which I'd rather have adorning my wall!
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Apr 26, 2008 22:48:15 GMT 1, no backdoor are prints made before pow made there own some were made as extras and given to staff suppliers or as gifts some were taken by the printers no one knows how many but they are the same as the numbered prints
no backdoor are prints made before pow made there own some were made as extras and given to staff suppliers or as gifts some were taken by the printers no one knows how many but they are the same as the numbered prints
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 22:49:05 GMT 1, snakes - its probably why POW/Laz doesnt use your brum mates any longer
snakes - its probably why POW/Laz doesnt use your brum mates any longer
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 26, 2008 22:50:53 GMT 1, ..and maybe just a few are the ones that were cheekily given the same numbers as ones already released, got sold on ebay which led to the POW'gate scandal and the insider investigation at POW! 
..and maybe just a few are the ones that were cheekily given the same numbers as ones already released, got sold on ebay which led to the POW'gate scandal and the insider investigation at POW! |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Apr 26, 2008 22:52:24 GMT 1, And alsabar i have seen backdoor pow prints i have a dolk r2d2 and used to have a love rat
And alsabar i have seen backdoor pow prints i have a dolk r2d2 and used to have a love rat
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 22:52:45 GMT 1, true true snakes
true true snakes
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 26, 2008 22:53:50 GMT 1, ..and I have been offered several Hewlet backdoor prints too wes..
..and I have been offered several Hewlet backdoor prints too wes..
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 22:53:55 GMT 1, thats why i dont buy prints - unless they are AP's 
thats why i dont buy prints - unless they are AP's |
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by westley on Apr 26, 2008 23:01:00 GMT 1, the hewlet prints would be nice you could put a/p on them and sell them to alsbsbar
only joking if you have a sponge finger i would love that
the hewlet prints would be nice you could put a/p on them and sell them to alsbsbar
only joking if you have a sponge finger i would love that
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by alsbabar on Apr 26, 2008 23:02:17 GMT 1, lol @ westley
lol @ westley
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by GD303uk on Apr 26, 2008 23:10:52 GMT 1, Snakes does make a good point , if you like the image it doesnt really matter that much, if its back door or not, it might not have the same investment value but for all purpose it is the very same image print just without the sig, number , stamp.
it could be argued that back door prints are robbing the artist as they get nothing for the sale, and could dilute the value of genuine official pieces.
backdoor brummie; some of the early banksy prints where printed in birmingham the printers back door brummie made more without permission from the artist and sold them himself. in effect robbing the artist and the buyer , but as is said above if you like the image does it matter?, in the end Banksy found Ben at POW and prints got better security,
i would like a backdoor print if it was all i could get , i tried to buy a monkey queen last year but was outbid, as it turned out, it sold for more than i could spend. they still have a value not as much as an official one, it suprissed me how much it went for.
Snakes does make a good point , if you like the image it doesnt really matter that much, if its back door or not, it might not have the same investment value but for all purpose it is the very same image print just without the sig, number , stamp.
it could be argued that back door prints are robbing the artist as they get nothing for the sale, and could dilute the value of genuine official pieces.
backdoor brummie; some of the early banksy prints where printed in birmingham the printers back door brummie made more without permission from the artist and sold them himself. in effect robbing the artist and the buyer , but as is said above if you like the image does it matter?, in the end Banksy found Ben at POW and prints got better security,
i would like a backdoor print if it was all i could get , i tried to buy a monkey queen last year but was outbid, as it turned out, it sold for more than i could spend. they still have a value not as much as an official one, it suprissed me how much it went for.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by snakes on Apr 27, 2008 0:33:28 GMT 1, We should set up another thread in the peoples gallery - "Get yer Backdoors out"..
We should set up another thread in the peoples gallery - "Get yer Backdoors out"..
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by stuey09 on Apr 27, 2008 1:10:38 GMT 1, It's a personal thing, but I don't like them. They make a mockery of the limited edition number and they are essentially knock offs.
It's a personal thing, but I don't like them. They make a mockery of the limited edition number and they are essentially knock offs.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by pezlow on Apr 27, 2008 6:48:21 GMT 1, I don't have a massive objection to people buying then with their eyes open - like snakes does. But the problem is that when they get on ebay they may be sold to people who think they are buying a genuine banksy edition, rather than something which is essentially stolen goods.
I don't have a massive objection to people buying then with their eyes open - like snakes does. But the problem is that when they get on ebay they may be sold to people who think they are buying a genuine banksy edition, rather than something which is essentially stolen goods.
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Backdoor Banksy Prints, by craigf on Apr 27, 2008 8:34:01 GMT 1, I don't have a massive objection to people buying then with their eyes open - like snakes does. But the problem is that when they get on ebay they may be sold to people who think they are buying a genuine banksy edition, rather than something which is essentially stolen goods.
I agree with Pez on this. If you know it's background and it isn't being presented as something it isn't I can live with backdoors. The problem is they are often misdiscribed, which led to me almost paying a fair wack for a backdoor Turf War before I was warned by someone what it really was.
I don't have a massive objection to people buying then with their eyes open - like snakes does. But the problem is that when they get on ebay they may be sold to people who think they are buying a genuine banksy edition, rather than something which is essentially stolen goods. I agree with Pez on this. If you know it's background and it isn't being presented as something it isn't I can live with backdoors. The problem is they are often misdiscribed, which led to me almost paying a fair wack for a backdoor Turf War before I was warned by someone what it really was. |
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