Another banksy in new york ?

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Mar 21, 2018 14:27:18 GMT 1 Rouen Cathedral said:

Mar 21, 2018 14:26:08 GMT 1 @bren said:

and blek and 3d wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the wall builders

Brick layers and renderers made it possible. Thank you builders

And they wouldn't have anything to build if it weren't for architects.

You are welcome guys!

😁

[Pysgod]

Mar 21, 2018 14:26:24 GMT 1 badgersurf said:

Can’t believe Banksy is having a go at the Seals now! What he is trying to say is that they play around all day, eat fish, meaning a depletion in the fish stocks so the hard-working fishermen, have less catch and less money.
Guess he cannot pick on the bankers too much as they are the only ones who can afford to buy his work, where as the lazy seals are not part of his demographic

I wouldnt worry your little brain over it, Im sure Banksy doesnt !

[geoffny]

Really funny the comments and turns in conversation. As it relates to the seal piece, have you not heard the saying “trained seal”? To me, looks like he’s poking fun at conformity.

[Happy Shopper]

Mar 21, 2018 14:26:24 GMT 1 badgersurf said:

Can’t believe Banksy is having a go at the Seals now! What he is trying to say is that they play around all day, eat fish, meaning a depletion in the fish stocks so the hard-working fishermen, have less catch and less money.
Guess he cannot pick on the bankers too much as they are the only ones who can afford to buy his work, where as the lazy seals are not part of his demographic

There's probably a clever hidden message about the balance of power, freedom of expression, the common fisheries policy, Brexit and/or TTIP... or it's a funny picture of a seal balancing a ball.

[quinn]

Mar 21, 2018 2:20:30 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

Mar 20, 2018 22:18:25 GMT 1 quinn said:

🤔Wonder if he'd do my kitchen?..... And the hall.....I hate painting. 🤔

So you join a predominately Banksy board 4 months ago and this is what you have to offer? Drive by lameness?

just a bit of fun! So you've been a member for 8yrs and this is what you have to offer
"drive by lameness" 👍

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Mar 21, 2018 14:46:11 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

Mar 21, 2018 14:26:24 GMT 1 badgersurf said:

Can’t believe Banksy is having a go at the Seals now! What he is trying to say is that they play around all day, eat fish, meaning a depletion in the fish stocks so the hard-working fishermen, have less catch and less money.
Guess he cannot pick on the bankers too much as they are the only ones who can afford to buy his work, where as the lazy seals are not part of his demographic

There's probably a clever hidden message about the balance of power, freedom of expression, the common fisheries policy, Brexit and/or TTIP... or it's a funny picture of a seal balancing a ball.

Glad to see you have your 'eye on the ball'

Say what you see. Say what you see (Roy walker watch out)

[Happy Shopper]

Mar 21, 2018 14:51:37 GMT 1 @bren said:

Mar 21, 2018 14:46:11 GMT 1 Happy Shopper said:

There's probably a clever hidden message about the balance of power, freedom of expression, the common fisheries policy, Brexit and/or TTIP... or it's a funny picture of a seal balancing a ball.

Glad to see you have your 'eye on the ball'

Say what you see. Say what you see (Roy walker watch out)🤣

'eye on the ball'. Clever name for the print edition.

YES... I was the first to mention a print edition on this thread!!!! #Winner

[jimbofatz]

The seal piece would have looked so cool in the late 90s while listening to some trip hop. In 2018, I want those bricks to say supreme. Get with the times son. Should have been a collab.

[badgersurf]

Just been speaking to people in our US office which is based in New Jersey, half the staff live in or New York and the other half in New Jersey, out of 15 people I asked, only one of them had heard of Banksy. Is Banksy not getting the media coverage over there or is the urban art scene not that big?

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Mar 21, 2018 15:18:32 GMT 1 badgersurf said:

Just been speaking to people in our US office which is based in New Jersey, half the staff live in or New York and the other half in New Jersey, out of 15 people I asked, only one of them had heard of Banksy. Is Banksy not getting the media coverage over there or is the urban art scene not that big?

I always like this kind of thing

If I went to my supermarket and asked customers if they knew who Jean-Michel Basquiat is, I think I would get around 10% of people get it right and that would be if I was holding a photo of him

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Mar 21, 2018 15:42:45 GMT 1 @bren said:

Mar 21, 2018 15:18:32 GMT 1 badgersurf said:

Just been speaking to people in our US office which is based in New Jersey, half the staff live in or New York and the other half in New Jersey, out of 15 people I asked, only one of them had heard of Banksy. Is Banksy not getting the media coverage over there or is the urban art scene not that big?

I always like this kind of thing

If I went to my supermarket and asked customers if they knew who Jean-Michel Basquiat is, I think I would get around 10% of people get it right and that would be if I was holding a photo of him

Do you work as one of the blokes who question the public for Pointless or Family Fortunes 😂

[mose]

Mar 21, 2018 15:18:32 GMT 1 badgersurf said:

Just been speaking to people in our US office which is based in New Jersey, half the staff live in or New York and the other half in New Jersey, out of 15 people I asked, only one of them had heard of Banksy. Is Banksy not getting the media coverage over there or is the urban art scene not that big?

Both.  Banksy has gotten some media coverage, but not really lately.

It's a tiny niche of a tiny niche.  

The most recognizable contemporary work would probably be Fairey's Obama.

When I talk art at work or social events in NJ, the focus is usually on older things.  For example, the MET's recent 'Michaelangelo' exhibition was probably the most attended by people I know.  It did over 800k visitors overall, making it one of the top-5 exhibitions, all-time, at the MET.  Picasso exhibitions draw people.  As do Monet(if friends visit MoMA, they always comment about the huge Waterlillies painting)

Murakami isn't known by name, only by his multi-color LV bags.

[saint]

A kid at my work (I say kid, he's probably 30), didn't know who Andy Warhol was when I was chatting to him the other day. I wont talk to him again.

[Wearology]

If he never heard of Keith Haring - you should lock him in a closet.  

[saint]

Theres no chance he's ever heard of Keith Haring... I'll ask him..... hold on....

[saint]

Nope, absolutely no idea who he is. I've asked the head honcho to fire him.

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Mar 21, 2018 15:57:04 GMT 1 @kintoreton said:

Mar 21, 2018 15:42:45 GMT 1 @bren said:

I always like this kind of thing

If I went to my supermarket and asked customers if they knew who Jean-Michel Basquiat is, I think I would get around 10% of people get it right and that would be if I was holding a photo of him

Do you work as one of the blokes who question the public for Pointless or Family Fortunes 😂

It's gameshow day.

We asked 100 people.....

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Mar 21, 2018 16:45:02 GMT 1 @bren said:

Mar 21, 2018 15:57:04 GMT 1 @kintoreton said:

Do you work as one of the blokes who question the public for Pointless or Family Fortunes 😂

It's gameshow day.

We asked 100 people.....

Our survey said, ehh aww

[jimbofatz]

The difference in between comparing how many people know Basquiat vs Banksy is indeed pointless. But not by your reasoning.

Basquiat PLAYS the art game-- Banksy does not. Banksy relevance is completely linked to how popular he is to the common man. That popularity is declining. Banksy has nothing but his name. Meanwhile, Basquiat has an army behind him.

[saint]

Mar 21, 2018 16:59:21 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

The difference in between comparing how many people know Basquiat vs Banksy is indeed pointless. But not by your reasoning.

Basquiat PLAYS the art game-- Banksy does not. Banksy relevance is completely linked to how popular he is to the common man. That popularity is declining. Banksy has nothing but his name. Meanwhile, Basquiat has an army behind him.

Wow you talk a lot of shit.

[jimbofatz]

Mar 21, 2018 17:25:20 GMT 1 saint said:

Mar 21, 2018 16:59:21 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

The difference in between comparing how many people know Basquiat vs Banksy is indeed pointless. But not by your reasoning.

Basquiat PLAYS the art game-- Banksy does not. Banksy relevance is completely linked to how popular he is to the common man. That popularity is declining. Banksy has nothing but his name. Meanwhile, Basquiat has an army behind him.

Wow you talk a lot ofs**t.

So you believe Banksy is going to have the exact same level of popularity forever just by word of mouth and an instagram account that gets 1/1000th the likes most current celebs get. Why do companies, bands, any artists or anyone even pay for advertising then or agents. YOU really think Banksy is so popular he's above a need for all of this in today's world. You sir have a lot of banksy dick in your mouth and need some air to your brain.

You can't have it both ways he's either a phony with a PR team, agent etc. or is eventually doomed for obscurity.

[Coach]

Mar 21, 2018 17:33:24 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:25:20 GMT 1 saint said:

Wow you talk a lot ofs**t.

So you believe Banksy is going to have the exact same level of popularity forever just by word of mouth and an instagram account that gets 1/1000th the likes most current celebs get. Why do companies, bands, any artists or anyone even pay for advertising then or agents. YOU really think Banksy is so popular he's above a need for all of this in today's world. You sir have a lot of banksy dick in your mouth and need some air to your brain.

Setting aside the really quite offensive remarks in your post, it is worth bearing in mind that Banksy was voted the most popular artist in the UK. I think it’s fair to say that he has earnt his place in the art history books.

[Pysgod]

Mar 21, 2018 17:33:24 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:25:20 GMT 1 saint said:

Wow you talk a lot ofs**t.

So you believe Banksy is going to have the exact same level of popularity forever just by word of mouth and an instagram account that gets 1/1000th the likes most current celebs get. Why do companies, bands, any artists or anyone even pay for advertising then or agents. YOU really think Banksy is so popular he's above a need for all of this in today's world. You sir have a lot of banksy dick in your mouth and need some air to your brain.

You can't have it both ways he's either a phony with a PR team, agent etc. or is eventually doomed for obscurity.

So 3D is not Banksy anymore  ?  

[jimbofatz]

Mar 21, 2018 17:39:08 GMT 1 Coach said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:33:24 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

So you believe Banksy is going to have the exact same level of popularity forever just by word of mouth and an instagram account that gets 1/1000th the likes most current celebs get. Why do companies, bands, any artists or anyone even pay for advertising then or agents. YOU really think Banksy is so popular he's above a need for all of this in today's world. You sir have a lot of banksy dick in your mouth and need some air to your brain.

Setting aside the really quite offensive remarks in your post, it is worth bearing in mind that Banksy was voted the most popular artist in the UK. I think it’s fair to say that he has earnt his place in the art history books.

I believe the Bay City Rollers also earned the number 1 spot on a few UK lists.

I'm really not shitting on Banksy here this is simply a reality. People will for sure remember him. But maybe more as a business model for cop and flip marketing in business text books than in Art books.

[saint]

Mar 21, 2018 17:33:24 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:25:20 GMT 1 saint said:

Wow you talk a lot ofs**t.

So you believe Banksy is going to have the exact same level of popularity forever just by word of mouth and an instagram account that gets 1/1000th the likes most current celebs get. Why do companies, bands, any artists or anyone even pay for advertising then or agents. YOU really think Banksy is so popular he's above a need for all of this in today's world. You sir have a lot of banksy dick in your mouth and need some air to your brain.

You can't have it both ways he's either a phony with a PR team, agent etc. or is eventually doomed for obscurity.

You actually have no idea what you're talking about do you? Yet you try and talk aggressively to make out you do. 

No worries, have a good one. I'll go try and get some air to my brain as you suggest, perhaps you should try to engage yours before posting rubbish that makes you look like you know nothing? 

[Happy Shopper]

Mar 21, 2018 17:33:24 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:25:20 GMT 1 saint said:

Wow you talk a lot ofs**t.

You can't have it both ways he's either a phony with a PR team, agent etc. or is eventually doomed for obscurity.

Do you really not know he has a PR team?
Not sure why that makes him a phony though. Highlighting major political/world issues, largely using the money generated by his own art and projects, isn't the work of one man alone.

[jimbofatz]

Mar 21, 2018 17:48:34 GMT 1 saint said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:33:24 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

So you believe Banksy is going to have the exact same level of popularity forever just by word of mouth and an instagram account that gets 1/1000th the likes most current celebs get. Why do companies, bands, any artists or anyone even pay for advertising then or agents. YOU really think Banksy is so popular he's above a need for all of this in today's world. You sir have a lot of banksy dick in your mouth and need some air to your brain.

You can't have it both ways he's either a phony with a PR team, agent etc. or is eventually doomed for obscurity.

You actually have no idea what you're talking about do you? Yet you try and talk aggressively to make out you do. 

No worries, have a good one. I'll go try and get some air to my brain as you suggest, perhaps you should try to engage yours before posting rubbish that makes you look like you know nothing? 

I believe you called me full ofs**t first Saint.

I would love to hear how you expect him to keep his popularity minus going down the regular road of PR, art agents, etc. You could make a shit ton of money if you have sussed that out.

[saint]

Mar 21, 2018 17:50:12 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:48:34 GMT 1 saint said:

You actually have no idea what you're talking about do you? Yet you try and talk aggressively to make out you do. 

No worries, have a good one. I'll go try and get some air to my brain as you suggest, perhaps you should try to engage yours before posting rubbish that makes you look like you know nothing? 

I believe you called me full ofs**t first Saint.

I did and I stand by that.

[Harveyn]

Mar 21, 2018 17:33:24 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:25:20 GMT 1 saint said:

Wow you talk a lot ofs**t.

So you believe Banksy is going to have the exact same level of popularity forever just by word of mouth and an instagram account that gets 1/1000th the likes most current celebs get. Why do companies, bands, any artists or anyone even pay for advertising then or agents. YOU really think Banksy is so popular he's above a need for all of this in today's world. You sir have a lot of banksy dick in your mouth and need some air to your brain.

You can't have it both ways he's either a phony with a PR team, agent etc. or is eventually doomed for obscurity.

So there are no world renowned and collected artist whose popularity knows no limits who live or lived a reclusive lifestyle or maybe even died penniless who never used agents or paid for advertising? 

No artists alive or dead whose popularity has existed for decades just because people connected with their work rather than it being a PR exercise?

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Mar 21, 2018 17:50:12 GMT 1 jimbofatz said:

Mar 21, 2018 17:48:34 GMT 1 saint said:

You actually have no idea what you're talking about do you? Yet you try and talk aggressively to make out you do. 

No worries, have a good one. I'll go try and get some air to my brain as you suggest, perhaps you should try to engage yours before posting rubbish that makes you look like you know nothing? 

I believe you called me full ofs**t first Saint.

I would love to hear how you expect him to keep his popularity minus going down the regular road of PR, art agents, etc. You could make as**t ton of money if you have sussed that out.

you really don't like him do you?

Why not? what has he done to piss you off so much?

I don't think anyone is proclaiming banksy to be the new messiah, though he is a bit of a naughty boy.

But a lot of us do like him, have liked him for 10 + years. i don't know what he does to piss people off?

I used to get the grafitti tagger type dudes calling him names, art fag I think was one?

and i get people calling him a vandal for drawing on walls

if he retired tomorrow and just wrapped it up and called it a day, and lets say for whatever reason all his art value dropped to zero, i'd still have enjoyed what he has done and given.  

i haven't got that from any other artist

I am not even that much of a fan boy

i just don't get the hate