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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by WILLYBKLN on Apr 28, 2016 4:03:17 GMT 1, great share dreadnatty
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 13:07:05 GMT 1, Does no-one recognize him? haha - great footage I bloody knew it..... 
Does no-one recognize him? haha - great footage I bloody knew it..... so that's what damien hirst looks like. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Hubble Bubble on Apr 28, 2016 13:13:25 GMT 1, Great, thanks for sharing
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Daniel Silk on Jun 7, 2016 18:36:33 GMT 1,
Gift shop in Palestine selling fake Banksy products.
Gift shop in Palestine selling fake Banksy products.
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Daniel Silk on Sept 2, 2016 16:35:07 GMT 1,
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by peted on Sept 2, 2016 17:07:40 GMT 1, Is THIS the real face of Banksy???
Is THIS the real face of Banksy??? |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Deleted on Sept 2, 2016 17:49:32 GMT 1, Is THIS the real face of Banksy??? 
Is THIS the real face of Banksy??? Nah, I think that's a painting of a dove. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 17:33:18 GMT 1, I see many comments on this board talking about the great work artists do for Palestine. From tagging a wall, to setting up a hotel and bringing spotlight to the region. I think the topic might be the most discussed humanity concept on this board by a factor of 1000x. It would be super insightful to hear the art communities take since we are the buyers and consumers. Keep in mind i am not Jewish. I HAVE traveled to both places and have spent real time there.
I also dont want this to get insane and blabberish. Try and shine a light on this for me because I simply dont get it.
A few thoughts that dont click in my head that I have always wanted to make sense of in relation to art and this causeβ¦
Israel- its imperfect. Building crap houses on disputed rock piles. Agro military like police is an issue. Lets keep in mind it was founded 5k years ago so itβs nothing new. These peeps have been in the same tiny area before there were Christians, Muslims, Buddhistsβ¦. Also, Jews have basically been eliminated from the planet with roughly 13 million left. They have never really been safe anywhere aside from the USA from attack or genocide be it from Spain to Germany. Probably the most persecuted people on the planet by a factor of 1000x.
Keep in mind 13mm/7.5bln means jews are .001% of the world population.
Flip side, there are 450 million Arabs and the population grows not shrinks, with 22 nations. Ample space and natural resources, wealth. All the ability in the world to make the lives of Palestine better overnight.
Now for the nature of things. Art embraces acceptance right? the odd? gay rights maybe? womens rights? minorities (like those that make up .001% of the world?) Dont think i need to highlight the difference for a womens freedom between these 2 societies, or for a gay person. Of which i am neither. Yeah, think i have a clear opinion or bias. i will admit this and i do not want to start some firestorm of hatred. What I do want is for the art world to explain why this is, of all the problems on our planet, the one art likes to hug? How am i so misaligned form the art world that I generally love? educate me please.
What I really want to know, is why artists pick this topic of all on the planet 9 out of 10 times? does it sell prints? is it a safe and easy that looks dangerous? can look like its front lines but really its safe place to be risky from? why not pick one of these----- genocidewatch.net/alerts-2/new-alerts/
Explain why the central African republic has never and will never be in a print anyone quotes or βlikesβ on Instagram from Banksy? 5,186 people have died in Central African Republic since fighting between Muslims and Christians started in December. That is about the number of Palestinians killed since second intifada in 2000. And we must think some of those were militarized right?
Not saying thos ethat have died anywhere are not important. Simply trying to understand the extreme focus.
I want to understand why ART, forget media or other orgs that have own financial and political motivations. Picks this topic for its prints, stunts, charities?
What I hope this discussion can bring out is an answer to why this topic engages the ART world (not uni student world) more than say, Somali genocide taking place now. No need to site more facts about this specific conflict. Explain why it is the art worlds darling over much more dire situations. Not who is right or wrong. That will be debated for eternity it seems. But specific to this forum, why is art all about this topic. If the world simply doesnβt like Jewish people, itβs an answer. Not a great one, but at least it answers my question.
As a side topic am very interested how female artists, or gay artists feel. Not just white dudes.
I see many comments on this board talking about the great work artists do for Palestine. From tagging a wall, to setting up a hotel and bringing spotlight to the region. I think the topic might be the most discussed humanity concept on this board by a factor of 1000x. It would be super insightful to hear the art communities take since we are the buyers and consumers. Keep in mind i am not Jewish. I HAVE traveled to both places and have spent real time there. I also dont want this to get insane and blabberish. Try and shine a light on this for me because I simply dont get it. A few thoughts that dont click in my head that I have always wanted to make sense of in relation to art and this causeβ¦ Israel- its imperfect. Building crap houses on disputed rock piles. Agro military like police is an issue. Lets keep in mind it was founded 5k years ago so itβs nothing new. These peeps have been in the same tiny area before there were Christians, Muslims, Buddhistsβ¦. Also, Jews have basically been eliminated from the planet with roughly 13 million left. They have never really been safe anywhere aside from the USA from attack or genocide be it from Spain to Germany. Probably the most persecuted people on the planet by a factor of 1000x. Keep in mind 13mm/7.5bln means jews are .001% of the world population. Flip side, there are 450 million Arabs and the population grows not shrinks, with 22 nations. Ample space and natural resources, wealth. All the ability in the world to make the lives of Palestine better overnight. Now for the nature of things. Art embraces acceptance right? the odd? gay rights maybe? womens rights? minorities (like those that make up .001% of the world?) Dont think i need to highlight the difference for a womens freedom between these 2 societies, or for a gay person. Of which i am neither. Yeah, think i have a clear opinion or bias. i will admit this and i do not want to start some firestorm of hatred. What I do want is for the art world to explain why this is, of all the problems on our planet, the one art likes to hug? How am i so misaligned form the art world that I generally love? educate me please. What I really want to know, is why artists pick this topic of all on the planet 9 out of 10 times? does it sell prints? is it a safe and easy that looks dangerous? can look like its front lines but really its safe place to be risky from? why not pick one of these----- genocidewatch.net/alerts-2/new-alerts/Explain why the central African republic has never and will never be in a print anyone quotes or βlikesβ on Instagram from Banksy? 5,186 people have died in Central African Republic since fighting between Muslims and Christians started in December. That is about the number of Palestinians killed since second intifada in 2000. And we must think some of those were militarized right? Not saying thos ethat have died anywhere are not important. Simply trying to understand the extreme focus. I want to understand why ART, forget media or other orgs that have own financial and political motivations. Picks this topic for its prints, stunts, charities? What I hope this discussion can bring out is an answer to why this topic engages the ART world (not uni student world) more than say, Somali genocide taking place now. No need to site more facts about this specific conflict. Explain why it is the art worlds darling over much more dire situations. Not who is right or wrong. That will be debated for eternity it seems. But specific to this forum, why is art all about this topic. If the world simply doesnβt like Jewish people, itβs an answer. Not a great one, but at least it answers my question. As a side topic am very interested how female artists, or gay artists feel. Not just white dudes. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by beenrhymin on Mar 17, 2017 18:11:50 GMT 1, couldnt agree with this post more. i would say it is for the reasons above that people focus on it, the arab world is 1000 times wealthier and influential, and therefore directs attention to this cause without actually supporting it.
its the same reason the U.N. has a specific committee for palestinian issues while the atrocities all over the worth with deathtolls rising in the 100,000's versus hundreds in palestine....
funniest part is israel is open to two states with defensible borders, while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed....
i think the real issues stem from ideology. being a modern democracy israel i think is generally very reasonable, with common sense positions on gays, women, etc... The leaders of the palestinian people are terrorist and extremist, therefore they will not settle for anything but their ideals, death to jews, shariah law, etc...
sad part is it is the Palestinians who suffer most, corrupt leadership has taken billions in aid and used it to build weapons of terror, tunnels, etc instead of hospitals schools and investing in infrastructure. in fact was watching a recent documentary which alluded to the fact that when land was given back in gaza, there was advanced irrigation for farming and other built infrastructure and it was burnt down as they didnt want anything from these "zionists". a real shame
couldnt agree with this post more. i would say it is for the reasons above that people focus on it, the arab world is 1000 times wealthier and influential, and therefore directs attention to this cause without actually supporting it.
its the same reason the U.N. has a specific committee for palestinian issues while the atrocities all over the worth with deathtolls rising in the 100,000's versus hundreds in palestine....
funniest part is israel is open to two states with defensible borders, while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed....
i think the real issues stem from ideology. being a modern democracy israel i think is generally very reasonable, with common sense positions on gays, women, etc... The leaders of the palestinian people are terrorist and extremist, therefore they will not settle for anything but their ideals, death to jews, shariah law, etc...
sad part is it is the Palestinians who suffer most, corrupt leadership has taken billions in aid and used it to build weapons of terror, tunnels, etc instead of hospitals schools and investing in infrastructure. in fact was watching a recent documentary which alluded to the fact that when land was given back in gaza, there was advanced irrigation for farming and other built infrastructure and it was burnt down as they didnt want anything from these "zionists". a real shame
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 18:27:33 GMT 1, Given your points, which I think have been thought through and are valid arguments, why does the artist community disagree? Simply the financial aspect? Pays to talk about Palestine? That is very depressing and it makes me hate my collection....
Given your points, which I think have been thought through and are valid arguments, why does the artist community disagree? Simply the financial aspect? Pays to talk about Palestine? That is very depressing and it makes me hate my collection....
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by docean on Mar 17, 2017 18:27:35 GMT 1, I don't buy art to support any causes. I buy it if it looks good on my wall.
No clue why people are biased, but why not do something for the side you feel is misrepresented?
I don't buy art to support any causes. I buy it if it looks good on my wall.
No clue why people are biased, but why not do something for the side you feel is misrepresented?
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by nobokov on Mar 17, 2017 21:13:43 GMT 1, while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed....
while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed.... Could that be characterized as a gross Islamophobic exaggeration? |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Reader on Mar 17, 2017 21:31:31 GMT 1, couldnt agree with this post more. i would say it is for the reasons above that people focus on it, the arab world is 1000 times wealthier and influential, and therefore directs attention to this cause without actually supporting it. its the same reason the U.N. has a specific committee for palestinian issues while the atrocities all over the worth with deathtolls rising in the 100,000's versus hundreds in palestine.... funniest part is israel is open to two states with defensible borders, while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed.... i think the real issues stem from ideology. being a modern democracy israel i think is generally very reasonable, with common sense positions on gays, women, etc... The leaders of the palestinian people are terrorist and extremist, therefore they will not settle for anything but their ideals, death to jews, shariah law, etc... sad part is it is the Palestinians who suffer most, corrupt leadership has taken billions in aid and used it to build weapons of terror, tunnels, etc instead of hospitals schools and investing in infrastructure. in fact was watching a recent documentary which alluded to the fact that when land was given back in gaza, there was advanced irrigation for farming and other built infrastructure and it was burnt down as they didnt want anything from these "zionists". a real shame
couldnt agree with this post more. i would say it is for the reasons above that people focus on it, the arab world is 1000 times wealthier and influential, and therefore directs attention to this cause without actually supporting it. its the same reason the U.N. has a specific committee for palestinian issues while the atrocities all over the worth with deathtolls rising in the 100,000's versus hundreds in palestine.... funniest part is israel is open to two states with defensible borders, while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed.... i think the real issues stem from ideology. being a modern democracy israel i think is generally very reasonable, with common sense positions on gays, women, etc... The leaders of the palestinian people are terrorist and extremist, therefore they will not settle for anything but their ideals, death to jews, shariah law, etc... sad part is it is the Palestinians who suffer most, corrupt leadership has taken billions in aid and used it to build weapons of terror, tunnels, etc instead of hospitals schools and investing in infrastructure. in fact was watching a recent documentary which alluded to the fact that when land was given back in gaza, there was advanced irrigation for farming and other built infrastructure and it was burnt down as they didnt want anything from these "zionists". a real shame Your racism, bigotry and ignorance knows no bounds. I'm presuming the OP had a legitimate reason for asking his question, of which no one will now engage with due to your ridiculously inflammatory and troll like response. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by bsimkin on Mar 17, 2017 21:32:21 GMT 1, while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed.... Could that be characterized as a gross Islamophobic exaggeration?
while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed.... Could that be characterized as a gross Islamophobic exaggeration? Nah, it's in the PLO's charter... and Abbas is a known Holocaust denier... here's my question, if we all hate ISIS so much, why do we give Hamas (an ISIS supporter) a pass? BTW, this has nothing to do with the palestinian people caught in the middle of all of this. They are controlled by a government that doesn't give them a voice (no elections since 2006), and the aide their government does receive does not go toward building a sustainable society, it goes toward building up arsenal and depriving their own people of food and opportunity. Furthermore, what's everyones feeling toward Egypt in this matter? They have closed gaza off as well. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harveyn on Mar 17, 2017 21:59:02 GMT 1, Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within.
Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within.
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 22:49:25 GMT 1, Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within.
Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally.
Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Reader on Mar 17, 2017 22:59:43 GMT 1, Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally.
Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. is this a paid post ? Israel are an occupying army unlawfully imprisoning and murdering civilians including woman and children in their own homes in their own country. They're also participants in the Eurovision song contest, so not only do they commit collective punishment against innocent civilians, but against the rest of us too. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Steph Rat Catcher on Mar 17, 2017 23:00:28 GMT 1, Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally.
couldn't even point out Palestine Till a week ago . Maybe thats why ? Now i have a little understanding..
Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. couldn't even point out Palestine Till a week ago . Maybe thats why ? Now i have a little understanding.. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 23:09:32 GMT 1, while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed.... Could that be characterized as a gross Islamophobic exaggeration?
It is stated policy from all Arab leadership that Israel does not have right to exist as a state. What's to debate here? Wording might be aggressive but this is a fact. But it is off tangent to my question.
Now explain to me why the art community does not acknowledge facts? I really want to get this. I have a comparison actually. The art world has come to the defense of native Americans in the North Dakota pipeline case. Native Americans were the aboriginal culture in America (as are Jews in Israel), native Americans are the minorities in a huge way (same is the case of Jews relative to arabs). Conflict over land. Etc. I get there are many differences.
But why is the Jewish situation () the only case where art attacks the group that is aboriginal to the region, the minority in the conflict? It's honestly starting to really upset me regarding the art world. I'm starting to feel sold out. Is Middle East cash really that powerful in art world? Don't tell me I'm crazy! Banksy is basically doing a show that says as much right now. clear where the hotel is right...
If he wanted to address victims, why go for this one and skew it to one side? If it's not money, or easy, what is it? I mean damn, art that takes the other side of Jews is a pretty tired/old and bad consequence practice.
while palestinians and arabs wont rest until every israeli/jew is destroyed.... Could that be characterized as a gross Islamophobic exaggeration? It is stated policy from all Arab leadership that Israel does not have right to exist as a state. What's to debate here? Wording might be aggressive but this is a fact. But it is off tangent to my question. Now explain to me why the art community does not acknowledge facts? I really want to get this. I have a comparison actually. The art world has come to the defense of native Americans in the North Dakota pipeline case. Native Americans were the aboriginal culture in America (as are Jews in Israel), native Americans are the minorities in a huge way (same is the case of Jews relative to arabs). Conflict over land. Etc. I get there are many differences. But why is the Jewish situation () the only case where art attacks the group that is aboriginal to the region, the minority in the conflict? It's honestly starting to really upset me regarding the art world. I'm starting to feel sold out. Is Middle East cash really that powerful in art world? Don't tell me I'm crazy! Banksy is basically doing a show that says as much right now. clear where the hotel is right... If he wanted to address victims, why go for this one and skew it to one side? If it's not money, or easy, what is it? I mean damn, art that takes the other side of Jews is a pretty tired/old and bad consequence practice. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 23:11:37 GMT 1, i found this quite interesting (sorry OP it has nothing to do with your question)
i found this quite interesting (sorry OP it has nothing to do with your question)
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 23:14:57 GMT 1, Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. is this a paid post ? Israel are an occupying army unlawfully imprisoning and murdering civilians including woman and children in their own homes in their own country. They're also participants in the Eurovision song contest, so not only do they commit collective punishment against innocent civilians, but against the rest of us too.
Ok, that has happened 10x more in central Africa in last few months. Kids butchered women raped etc. someone must have a reason why pali and not the far worse situations out there are championed by art. Trust me if you can stay in a hotel in West Bank means it's nicer than some areas of london. How about you hit a hotel in Somalia and see what victim means.
Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. is this a paid post ? Israel are an occupying army unlawfully imprisoning and murdering civilians including woman and children in their own homes in their own country. They're also participants in the Eurovision song contest, so not only do they commit collective punishment against innocent civilians, but against the rest of us too. Ok, that has happened 10x more in central Africa in last few months. Kids butchered women raped etc. someone must have a reason why pali and not the far worse situations out there are championed by art. Trust me if you can stay in a hotel in West Bank means it's nicer than some areas of london. How about you hit a hotel in Somalia and see what victim means. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harveyn on Mar 17, 2017 23:18:07 GMT 1, Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally.
The enemy of good is better.
I imagine it's better to support all and any victims of crimes against basic human rights than to sit back and try to figure out which is more deserving.
Every little helps!! (There is a print in there somewhere)
Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. The enemy of good is better. I imagine it's better to support all and any victims of crimes against basic human rights than to sit back and try to figure out which is more deserving. Every little helps!! (There is a print in there somewhere) |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by nex on Mar 17, 2017 23:20:38 GMT 1, Every muslim/Arab/Palestinian/person who's different is a terrorist - let's curtail their freedom, their rights, their basic needs and when people support them, let's change the subject.
Fuck this thread.
Every muslim/Arab/Palestinian/person who's different is a terrorist - let's curtail their freedom, their rights, their basic needs and when people support them, let's change the subject.
Fuck this thread.
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Coach on Mar 17, 2017 23:27:03 GMT 1, Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally.
It is blatantly disengenous to criticise someone for raising money or awareness for one cause just because there are other more worthy causes. Recently a forum member put in a fabulous effort to raise just under Β£16k for the people of napal. Would you criticise him on the basis that he should have been raising money for something or someone else? Of course not.
Are your comments more directed at simply criticising supporting Palestine?
Its a show of support for the real victims against the perpetrators from outside and within. Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. It is blatantly disengenous to criticise someone for raising money or awareness for one cause just because there are other more worthy causes. Recently a forum member put in a fabulous effort to raise just under Β£16k for the people of napal. Would you criticise him on the basis that he should have been raising money for something or someone else? Of course not. Are your comments more directed at simply criticising supporting Palestine? |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 23:27:48 GMT 1, Every muslim/Arab/Palestinian/person who's different is a terrorist - let's curtail their freedom, their rights, their basic needs and when people support them, let's change the subject. f**kthis thread.
There are 1.6bln muslims in the world. 500mm arabs. 3rd largest ethnic group behind Chinese and Indian. So you are saying this convo somehow enslaves 1.6bln people asking why the Palestine conflict get and unbalanced amount of arts attention bs other struggles in the world? This shit sounds bought$$$
Every muslim/Arab/Palestinian/person who's different is a terrorist - let's curtail their freedom, their rights, their basic needs and when people support them, let's change the subject. f**kthis thread. There are 1.6bln muslims in the world. 500mm arabs. 3rd largest ethnic group behind Chinese and Indian. So you are saying this convo somehow enslaves 1.6bln people asking why the Palestine conflict get and unbalanced amount of arts attention bs other struggles in the world? This shit sounds bought$$$ |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Coach on Mar 17, 2017 23:30:37 GMT 1, Every muslim/Arab/Palestinian/person who's different is a terrorist - let's curtail their freedom, their rights, their basic needs and when people support them, let's change the subject. f**kthis thread. There are 1.6bln muslims in the world. 500mm arabs. 3rd largest ethnic group behind Chinese and Indian. So you are saying this convo somehow enslaves 1.6bln people asking why the Palestine conflict get and unbalanced amount of arts attention bs other struggles in the world? Thiss**t sounds bought$$$
Can I ask what country you are from? I am interested because of your comment about London. It's not something I recognise.
Every muslim/Arab/Palestinian/person who's different is a terrorist - let's curtail their freedom, their rights, their basic needs and when people support them, let's change the subject. f**kthis thread. There are 1.6bln muslims in the world. 500mm arabs. 3rd largest ethnic group behind Chinese and Indian. So you are saying this convo somehow enslaves 1.6bln people asking why the Palestine conflict get and unbalanced amount of arts attention bs other struggles in the world? Thiss**t sounds bought$$$ Can I ask what country you are from? I am interested because of your comment about London. It's not something I recognise. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 23:30:59 GMT 1, Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. It is blatantly disengenous to criticise someone for raising money or awareness for one cause just because there are other more worthy causes. Recently a forum member put in which effort to raise just under Β£16k for the people of napal. Would you criticise him on the basis that he should have been raising money for something or someone else? Of course not. Are your comments more directed at simply criticising supporting Palestine?
Think about this again. You are talking about a wealthy person(relative term) being philanthropic. That person might be from Nepal and want to donate. I'm aksing why artists are so lazy that they go for the Middle East cash cow that is clearly at best unclear who is right. When there are actual bonified victims in say Nepal. An earthquake can't be debated as the aggressor.
Ok. So the question is why is that the group and victims being supported by the art community. Could anyone point out Central African Republic on a map? Did you know that more people have died there since December than ever died in Israel Palestine conflict? How can I not view this as artists simply being $ shills for those with interest in this conflict? I want to know what drives artists to this situation when it's so obviously not even close to top of the list of social injustice, and in fact it's heavily debated which side is to blame. Where as most other conflicts the victims are obvious. This one it's very unclear and also very far from other groups of victims globally. It is blatantly disengenous to criticise someone for raising money or awareness for one cause just because there are other more worthy causes. Recently a forum member put in which effort to raise just under Β£16k for the people of napal. Would you criticise him on the basis that he should have been raising money for something or someone else? Of course not. Are your comments more directed at simply criticising supporting Palestine? Think about this again. You are talking about a wealthy person(relative term) being philanthropic. That person might be from Nepal and want to donate. I'm aksing why artists are so lazy that they go for the Middle East cash cow that is clearly at best unclear who is right. When there are actual bonified victims in say Nepal. An earthquake can't be debated as the aggressor. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Coach on Mar 17, 2017 23:32:00 GMT 1, It is blatantly disengenous to criticise someone for raising money or awareness for one cause just because there are other more worthy causes. Recently a forum member put in which effort to raise just under Β£16k for the people of napal. Would you criticise him on the basis that he should have been raising money for something or someone else? Of course not. Are your comments more directed at simply criticising supporting Palestine? Think about this again. You are talking about a wealthy person(relative term) being philanthropic. That person might be from Nepal and want to donate. I'm aksing why artists are so lazy that they go for the Middle East cash cow that is clearly at best unclear who is right. When there are actual bonified victims in say Nepal. An earthquake can't be debated as the aggressor.
That person was neither wealthy nor from napal. You miss my point.
It is blatantly disengenous to criticise someone for raising money or awareness for one cause just because there are other more worthy causes. Recently a forum member put in which effort to raise just under Β£16k for the people of napal. Would you criticise him on the basis that he should have been raising money for something or someone else? Of course not. Are your comments more directed at simply criticising supporting Palestine? Think about this again. You are talking about a wealthy person(relative term) being philanthropic. That person might be from Nepal and want to donate. I'm aksing why artists are so lazy that they go for the Middle East cash cow that is clearly at best unclear who is right. When there are actual bonified victims in say Nepal. An earthquake can't be debated as the aggressor. That person was neither wealthy nor from napal. You miss my point. |
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Banksy in Palestine π΅πΈ, by Harrington FAN on Mar 17, 2017 23:32:37 GMT 1, There are 1.6bln muslims in the world. 500mm arabs. 3rd largest ethnic group behind Chinese and Indian. So you are saying this convo somehow enslaves 1.6bln people asking why the Palestine conflict get and unbalanced amount of arts attention bs other struggles in the world? Thiss**t sounds bought$$$ Can I ask what country you are from? I am interested because of your comment about London. It's not something I recognise.
Citizen of 2 countries. Us and U.K. Most recently london. The london part was a joke and the last thing anyone should focus on in this discussion.
There are 1.6bln muslims in the world. 500mm arabs. 3rd largest ethnic group behind Chinese and Indian. So you are saying this convo somehow enslaves 1.6bln people asking why the Palestine conflict get and unbalanced amount of arts attention bs other struggles in the world? Thiss**t sounds bought$$$ Can I ask what country you are from? I am interested because of your comment about London. It's not something I recognise. Citizen of 2 countries. Us and U.K. Most recently london. The london part was a joke and the last thing anyone should focus on in this discussion. |
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