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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by lee3 on Oct 13, 2016 17:59:34 GMT 1, Interesting reading above especially posterbobs put down of unsigned prints in his words "nothing more than copies without any form of artistic involvement. Without a signature, these prints are essentially worthless". At the moment unsigned are becoming more sought-after simply because most signed prints are completely out of most peoples affordability. With GWRB signed prints now reaching close to Β£90k, is it any wonder why someone desperately wanting that image are turning to the unsigned version instead. And because of that it is now commanding a price tag in excess of Β£25k. In the short term, I agree, signed prints will keep rising in value, some more than others, but so will unsigned prints. When will it all stop? None of us know that. But while Banksy's popularity increases, so will his work. Not to knock posterbob but i think he is speaking the truth from an old timer point of view though perhaps not delicately, more like the proverbial bull/china shop. The advice that was given to me when I was being taught about collecting was never buy an unsigned edition, period. That was taught to me by people who were taught by generations before them. It's just the way it is in those circles and I'm not criticizing that view, just recognizing it for what it is. To be honest, I respect it and follow it because I respected my teachers but I'm not blind to the reality around me. The reality is that this artist is plowing his own way and in many ways making a mockery of the old art establishment. The rules are being rewritten in a way and I think we see that reflected in not only the acceptance of unsigned prints for this artist in particular, but a fevered pursuit of them by many collectors. I believe the authentication trail does wonders for their collectability too.
Interesting reading above especially posterbobs put down of unsigned prints in his words "nothing more than copies without any form of artistic involvement. Without a signature, these prints are essentially worthless". At the moment unsigned are becoming more sought-after simply because most signed prints are completely out of most peoples affordability. With GWRB signed prints now reaching close to Β£90k, is it any wonder why someone desperately wanting that image are turning to the unsigned version instead. And because of that it is now commanding a price tag in excess of Β£25k. In the short term, I agree, signed prints will keep rising in value, some more than others, but so will unsigned prints. When will it all stop? None of us know that. But while Banksy's popularity increases, so will his work. Not to knock posterbob but i think he is speaking the truth from an old timer point of view though perhaps not delicately, more like the proverbial bull/china shop. The advice that was given to me when I was being taught about collecting was never buy an unsigned edition, period. That was taught to me by people who were taught by generations before them. It's just the way it is in those circles and I'm not criticizing that view, just recognizing it for what it is. To be honest, I respect it and follow it because I respected my teachers but I'm not blind to the reality around me. The reality is that this artist is plowing his own way and in many ways making a mockery of the old art establishment. The rules are being rewritten in a way and I think we see that reflected in not only the acceptance of unsigned prints for this artist in particular, but a fevered pursuit of them by many collectors. I believe the authentication trail does wonders for their collectability too.
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 20:03:04 GMT 1, That was 6 you picked Hah I know, they're on the same bar imo. What would your two top 5's be? Desirability / favourites.
Personal favs-
1. CWSB 2. Barcode 3. LIITA 4. Laugh Now 5. Grey NBG
Desirability
1. GWRB 2. Barcode 3. LIITA 4. CYW 5. Laugh Now
I guess its each to their own and ive never sold any of my Banksy prints so i dont really think too much about current value. That said, i'd be a liar if i said id be happy if they were still the same value as when i purchased them (mainly because i paid a fckin shed load of cash for those i purchased in recent times) Knowing my luck should the day come when I choose to sell any, the market will be on its arse but until that day I get pleasure from them as they are all framed and hung; I'm happy to say there are no "stored in folio between acid free paper, nvr seen the light of day, fart free environment" Banksy prints in my house
That was 6 you picked Hah I know, they're on the same bar imo. What would your two top 5's be? Desirability / favourites. Personal favs- 1. CWSB 2. Barcode 3. LIITA 4. Laugh Now 5. Grey NBG Desirability 1. GWRB 2. Barcode 3. LIITA 4. CYW 5. Laugh Now I guess its each to their own and ive never sold any of my Banksy prints so i dont really think too much about current value. That said, i'd be a liar if i said id be happy if they were still the same value as when i purchased them (mainly because i paid a fckin shed load of cash for those i purchased in recent times) Knowing my luck should the day come when I choose to sell any, the market will be on its arse but until that day I get pleasure from them as they are all framed and hung; I'm happy to say there are no "stored in folio between acid free paper, nvr seen the light of day, fart free environment" Banksy prints in my house
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Forum Auctions β’ Banksy Marketplace π¬π§, by Viking Surfer on Nov 21, 2016 1:09:56 GMT 1, What's the condition of the RC? No idea. I emailed for a condition report a week ago, but nothing back yet.
Full artist list and their lot numbers for those who are interested:
Albers, Josef 82, 83, 84 Banksy 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140 Basquiat, Jean-Michel 118, 119 Black, Dorrit 16 Braque, Georges 43 Caulfield, Patrick 48, 49, 50 Chagall, Marc 28, 29 Cheung, Gordon 70, 71 Dali, Salvador 20, 21, 22 Dine, Jim 92, 93 Dongen, Kees Van 18 Emin, Tracey 59, 60, 61, 62 Ernst, Max 19 Fairey, Shepherd 121 Foujita, Leonard Tsugharu 17 Giacometti, Alberto 44 Greegrass, William 10, 11 Hamilton, Richard 51, 52 Haring, Keith 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105 Hepworth, Barbara 4 Hirst, Damien 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69 Hockney, David 45, 46, 47, β Jackson, Alison 127 Kaws, 120 Lawrence, Edith Mary 12, 13, 14, 15, Levine, Chris 79, 80 Lewitt, Sol 89 Lichtenstein, Roy 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112 Magritte, Rene 40, 41 Matisse, Henri 42 Mehretu, Julie 81 Miro, Joan 23, 24, 25, 26, 27 Moore, Henry 1, 2, 3 Nevinson, Christopher Richard Wynne 5 Opie, Julian 63 Picasso, Pablo 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 Richter, Gerhard 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 Riley, Bridget 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58 Rosenquist, James 90, 91 Ruscha, Ed 95 Stella, Frank 85, 86, 87, 88 Thiebaud, Wayne 94 Tschudi, Lill 6, 7, 8, 9 Warhol, Andy 113, 114, 115, 116, 117 Yeo, Jonathan 122, 123, 124, 125 J.R 126
What's the condition of the RC? No idea. I emailed for a condition report a week ago, but nothing back yet. Full artist list and their lot numbers for those who are interested:Albers, Josef 82, 83, 84 Banksy 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140 Basquiat, Jean-Michel 118, 119 Black, Dorrit 16 Braque, Georges 43 Caulfield, Patrick 48, 49, 50 Chagall, Marc 28, 29 Cheung, Gordon 70, 71 Dali, Salvador 20, 21, 22 Dine, Jim 92, 93 Dongen, Kees Van 18 Emin, Tracey 59, 60, 61, 62 Ernst, Max 19 Fairey, Shepherd 121 Foujita, Leonard Tsugharu 17 Giacometti, Alberto 44 Greegrass, William 10, 11 Hamilton, Richard 51, 52 Haring, Keith 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105 Hepworth, Barbara 4 Hirst, Damien 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69 Hockney, David 45, 46, 47, β Jackson, Alison 127 Kaws, 120 Lawrence, Edith Mary 12, 13, 14, 15, Levine, Chris 79, 80 Lewitt, Sol 89 Lichtenstein, Roy 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112 Magritte, Rene 40, 41 Matisse, Henri 42 Mehretu, Julie 81 Miro, Joan 23, 24, 25, 26, 27 Moore, Henry 1, 2, 3 Nevinson, Christopher Richard Wynne 5 Opie, Julian 63 Picasso, Pablo 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 Richter, Gerhard 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 Riley, Bridget 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58 Rosenquist, James 90, 91 Ruscha, Ed 95 Stella, Frank 85, 86, 87, 88 Thiebaud, Wayne 94 Tschudi, Lill 6, 7, 8, 9 Warhol, Andy 113, 114, 115, 116, 117 Yeo, Jonathan 122, 123, 124, 125 J.R 126
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