Artists who should of BLOWN UP ..... But haven't.

[ben3486]

With the recent, justified, MASSIVE price jump in invader prints, it got me wondering who I though should of had a similar reaction...... but hasn't.

For me it'd be Ben Eine. Not to undermine him or his impact on the urban art world but I always find his prints great value for money and maybe under valued. Always been a big fan and he's been around such a long time.

Like invader he has produced lots of quality prints, that are not always massive editions, and he's still out and about painting lots of walls all over the world and has produced some iconic work. Not to mention being there from the start with Banksy and POW etc.

Feel free to agree, disagree, and put forward your opinions or suggestions

(Add pics too. We all love a pic)

[Express Post]

I assume your reference to blowing up is referring to the market and prices. Nothing to do with skill and relevance in art history.

To expand the discussion, we should consider artists who have blown up but should not have.

Many things to consider like flavour of the month, price sustainability, the market cornered by speculators, etc.

Just check out the zombie formalists who were art market darlings 3-4 years ago, but experienced severe corrections and have not recovered since.

[Deleted]

Great thread ben3486 I was thinking the same thing today. I think the price hike with Invader is very justified considering his position in the street art world.
I do not think I am qualified enough to recommend an artist but will enjoy the more experienced members replies to this thread.

I will say though that I think it should only really apply to those who were fundamental in the street/urban art movement. 

[Wearology]

DOLK 

[phat planet]

Antony Micallef. 

its happening. 

Just a 7 year false start.

[Howard Johnson]

Faile. To many editions in the past few years. If they had stuck to the small hand painted releases their work would be commanding much higher prices, no doubt about it.

[Sturban Has Saggy Tits]

I completely agree with Ben Eine. If you asked a year ago, I wouldn't have had the same answer, but since the huge blow up of Invader, I can now see Eine having the same. He does have a load of prints out there, but as you say not massive editions for most of them and he's been around long enough to justify that amount. Not sure on all these lenticular releases though, but I'll put that down to Art Republic. Hopefully it doesn't happen just yet, as I need to stockpile a load of his prints

[Jaylove]

Agreed. I'm surprised about Eine too. He's the artist I have the most prints by. I scoop them up because they are usually priced very reasonably and have great colors. Love the fact that his releases aren't hard to get either.

[gravity1]

Apr 20, 2017 1:06:22 GMT 1 Wearology said:

DOLK 

I actually think Dolk was in the process of "Blowing up" until he had a run of arguably the worst print releases of his career Angels, Graffiti Remover, Chief and ending with Sleepwalker. Then to put his urban art career out if it's misery, he suddenly changed into an abstract modern artist over night and pretty much lost everyone aside form his diehard Norway supporters. Sad but ultimately he's doing what he wants which hopefully makes him happy.

[Deleted]

Have to say sainer and bezt. Their work is amazing and also has that fine art feel of Connor Harrington or charming baker. Idk just something about it. I know they did very well with their last show but would not be supposed by a hype explosion eventually

[Jeezuz Jones Snr]

Isn't it a lot to do with the artists who have blown up have great PR managers working behind the scenes pulling all the right strings?

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Apr 20, 2017 4:28:21 GMT 1 Jeezuz Jones Snr said:

Isn't it a lot to do with the artists who have blown up have great PR managers working behind the scenes pulling all the right strings?

I think a lot of the time it is, but there are also more organic blowups like invader who has been extremely limited with releases as of late and just had an explosion in interest and price

[mike3489]

Cool thread but I think for every artist someone names, they should disclose if they own any works by that artist or not, for clarity.

[Rouen Cathedral]

To me it's blek. At least his early works.

Some of the stuff now. Not so much.

[stelio]

Apr 20, 2017 3:48:20 GMT 1 gravity1 said:

Apr 20, 2017 1:06:22 GMT 1 Wearology said:

DOLK 

I actually think Dolk was in the process of "Blowing up" until he had a run of arguably the worst print releases of his career Angels, Graffiti Remover, Chief and ending with Sleepwalker. Then to put his urban art career out if it's misery, he suddenly changed into an abstract modern artist over night and pretty much lost everyone aside form his diehard Norway supporters. Sad but ultimately he's doing what he wants which hopefully makes him happy.

Completely agree with DOLK.

Kunstrasen has the potential to take over what DOLK was doing. Already has had some good stuff and seems to continue to work on newer images. With a little work on his stencil detail and he could easily 'blow up' imo.

I use to think Pejac didnt get the love he deserved but that is changing now.

Still think Ernest Zacharevic and POSE are very talented for their styles and have a chance to blow up too.

[medichead]

Apr 20, 2017 4:46:01 GMT 1 mike3489 said:

Cool thread but I think for every artist someone names, they should disclose if they own any works by that artist or not, for clarity.

Spot on. Otherwise we are all just sitting here hyping up our inventory...

[Deleted]

Yes agree with pose also. Just has a refined product feel. And yes I own one pose, and etam prints, and eine (who I don't know if I agree as I feel he has really really overproduced). What I'm really wondering is who's next (and not because I just want to buy low haha). Who's the guy that comes out of nowhere and explodes quickly. Eine, faile, blek, invader, these guys have been around for ages, but who is leading the next generation ?

[Deleted]

1000's of unsung graffiti artists worldwide. Still being persecuted whilst others are immune. Lets go and save the world :/

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Apr 20, 2017 5:00:29 GMT 1 londonliam08 said:

1000's of unsung graffiti artists worldwide. Still being persecuted whilst others are immune. Lets go and save the world :/

I'm in. Who's driving ?

[cmc]

I'm suprised Adam Neate isn't more popular. I heard someone say it was something to do with Elms Lester but if anyone surely they have done most to promote him?

Is he too highbrow for the street art lovers but not mixing enough in the right circles to take it too a more high end audience? Stuck in between somewhere?

I don't own any of his work but I'm often quite tempted.

[Whitefish]

1st up was Banksy kaboom

2nd up is now Invader bang (for the current moment) just wait prices will readjust...

2 OG's that have put in a shit ton of street work and gained the respect from the masses are Ben Eine and Shepard Fairey. It doesn't really matter what I think... but Ben Eine and Shepard Fairey are truly undervalued for what they will one day be worth (monetarily speaking but most of all figurativley)

It is in my opinion Shepard Fairey will be up next..
3rd Shepard Fairey- His OGs are still cheap as hell, he continues to get up on the streets around the globe despite being bling in one eye. He is getting old... And still continues to release art to his fan base for a reasonable price. The day he stops producing prints for $45 is the day everyone will be scrambling.

Honestly it does not matter who you collect as long as you are not afraid to hang it on the wall and enjoy it. I understand the monitory and intrinsic values of collecting but every one began collecting/buying someone or something for one reason or another. As with everything, times change, society changes and your buying power changes. What should never change is your core... your core meaning why you began this epic journey in the field of collecting/observing/buying/creating art.

Stay Up

[cmc]

Yes Obey good call, he was one of the first guys I noticed in Central london the 'Giant' face was such a symbol and very recognisable.

[barryh]

Apr 20, 2017 4:47:37 GMT 1 stelio said:

Apr 20, 2017 3:48:20 GMT 1 gravity1 said:

I actually think Dolk was in the process of "Blowing up" until he had a run of arguably the worst print releases of his career Angels, Graffiti Remover, Chief and ending with Sleepwalker. Then to put his urban art career out if it's misery, he suddenly changed into an abstract modern artist over night and pretty much lost everyone aside form his diehard Norway supporters. Sad but ultimately he's doing what he wants which hopefully makes him happy.

Completely agree with DOLK.

Kunstrasen has the potential to take over what DOLK was doing. Already has had some good stuff and seems to continue to work on newer images. With a little work on his stencil detail and he could easily 'blow up' imo.

I use to think Pejac didnt get the love he deserved but that is changing now.

Still think Ernest Zacharevic and POSE are very talented for their styles and have a chance to blow up too.

With the greatest respect, you are probably 2 decades early on the kunstrasen shout... other than being Norwegian I don't see how they compare.

In terms of contribution.. Ud have to think Ben eine is one of the next. Invader deserved it, but do have laz onside and he really knows how to make an auction work.

[stelio]

DOLK use to do stencil work. Kunstrasen does stencil work. Both had/have cleaver and whitty designs. Wasnt trying to say one was better than the other. DOLK was clearly more eastblished and left a little hole when he left. Just think if Kunstrasen stayed with it and fine tuned his work, he could easily have more renowned later.

Only way Shepard blows up market wise is if he slows down production. Banksy market blew up more and more after he stopped making prints for the masses. Invader hasn't had many releases as of late and odds are if any happen now it will be at higher prices. (Good for him) When the market dries up of prints, the prices will start to sore. After Invaders last few shows, more and more people bought up the prints laying around 'cheap'. After that you only need a few big time collectors or galleries to buy up and mark up the rest of the secondary market inventory, which is what has appeared to have happened. Now good luck gettting a popular image for under $5000 when it was a fraction of that a few months ago.

I get that Ben has been around, done a lot for the art scene 'put in time' although his style is very niche. If you do not like letters then his art is just meh.

[pinkerton]

Apr 20, 2017 6:21:48 GMT 1 barryh said:

Apr 20, 2017 4:47:37 GMT 1 stelio said:

Completely agree with DOLK.

Kunstrasen has the potential to take over what DOLK was doing. Already has had some good stuff and seems to continue to work on newer images. With a little work on his stencil detail and he could easily 'blow up' imo.

I use to think Pejac didnt get the love he deserved but that is changing now.

Still think Ernest Zacharevic and POSE are very talented for their styles and have a chance to blow up too.

With the greatest respect, you are probably 2 decades early on the kunstrasen shout... other than being Norwegian I don't see how they compare.

In terms of contribution.. Ud have to think Ben eine is one of the next. Invader deserved it, but do have laz onside and he really knows how to make an auction work.

True they dont compare. Dont even think Kunstrasen is Norwegian. 

[gravity1]

Apr 20, 2017 6:21:48 GMT 1 barryh said:

With the greatest respect, you are probably 2 decades early on the kunstrasen shout... other than being Norwegian I don't see how they compare.

In terms of contribution.. Ud have to think Ben eine is one of the next. Invader deserved it, but do have laz onside and he really knows how to make an auction work.

IMO while Eine may deserve more attention being so long in the game and an obvious contributor in many ways, he just lacks the crossover appeal from places outside of the UK like the US. I remember 2-3 years ago when he had his LA solo at Helford which was one of their worst selling shows to date. They literally had the entire show available til close. Here in the US there are just very few who know who he is and I think his UK history plays a huge part in his appeal. Let's be honest, if he had just come on the scene stenciling stylized letters anywhere he'd probably get the exact same result as the Helford show. How can any of these people know how long he's been in the game and seen his pieces throughout the years, not to mention his history printing for Banksy and from what I have heard, basically mentored B from the very beginning and had a hand in many of his projects. 

[stelio]

Apr 20, 2017 6:45:25 GMT 1 pinkerton said:

Apr 20, 2017 6:21:48 GMT 1 barryh said:

With the greatest respect, you are probably 2 decades early on the kunstrasen shout... other than being Norwegian I don't see how they compare.

In terms of contribution.. Ud have to think Ben eine is one of the next. Invader deserved it, but do have laz onside and he really knows how to make an auction work.

True they dont compare. Dont even think Kunstrasen is Norwegian. 

Kunstrasen is German.

[barryh]

Apr 20, 2017 6:45:25 GMT 1 pinkerton said:

Apr 20, 2017 6:21:48 GMT 1 barryh said:

With the greatest respect, you are probably 2 decades early on the kunstrasen shout... other than being Norwegian I don't see how they compare.

In terms of contribution.. Ud have to think Ben eine is one of the next. Invader deserved it, but do have laz onside and he really knows how to make an auction work.

True they dont compare. Dont even think Kunstrasen is Norwegian. 

Ha ! Looks like I've read that dolk comparison a few times and just tied him in with that lot.

[Whitefish]

Apr 20, 2017 6:48:49 GMT 1 gravity1 said:

Apr 20, 2017 6:21:48 GMT 1 barryh said:

With the greatest respect, you are probably 2 decades early on the kunstrasen shout... other than being Norwegian I don't see how they compare.

In terms of contribution.. Ud have to think Ben eine is one of the next. Invader deserved it, but do have laz onside and he really knows how to make an auction work.

IMO while Eine may deserve more attention being so long in the game and an obvious contributor in many ways, he just lacks the crossover appeal from places outside of the UK like the US. I remember 2-3 years ago when he had his LA solo at Helford which was one of their worst selling shows to date. They literally had the entire show available til close. Here in the US there are just very few who know who he is and I think his UK history plays a huge part in his appeal. Let's be honest, if he had just come on the scene stenciling stylized letters anywhere he'd probably get the exact same result as the Helford show. How can any of these people know how long he's been in the game and seen his pieces throughout the years, not to mention his history printing for Banksy and from what I have heard, basically mentored B from the very beginning and had a hand in many of his projects. 

I am pretty sure the vast majority here know that Eine represents the B in BANKSY

[barryh]

Apr 20, 2017 6:48:49 GMT 1 gravity1 said:

Apr 20, 2017 6:21:48 GMT 1 barryh said:

With the greatest respect, you are probably 2 decades early on the kunstrasen shout... other than being Norwegian I don't see how they compare.

In terms of contribution.. Ud have to think Ben eine is one of the next. Invader deserved it, but do have laz onside and he really knows how to make an auction work.

IMO while Eine may deserve more attention being so long in the game and an obvious contributor in many ways, he just lacks the crossover appeal from places outside of the UK like the US. I remember 2-3 years ago when he had his LA solo at Helford which was one of their worst selling shows to date. They literally had the entire show available til close. Here in the US there are just very few who know who he is and I think his UK history plays a huge part in his appeal. Let's be honest, if he had just come on the scene stenciling stylized letters anywhere he'd probably get the exact same result as the Helford show. How can any of these people know how long he's been in the game and seen his pieces throughout the years, not to mention his history printing for Banksy and from what I have heard, basically mentored B from the very beginning and had a hand in many of his projects. 

Yer, printer at POW and one of team banksy for many years