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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by joey on Apr 21, 2017 20:24:58 GMT 1, If I remember rightly a love rat sold for ยฃ10k at auction ages ago. I haven't heard of one since. Prices seem to have been going up steadily. I guess a placard rat is worth less. But using my psychic powers I reckon the lover rat would now be about 12k. And using wild guesswork I would conclude with no supporting evidence whatsoever that a placard rat might be worth ยฃ8k-10k. - It a stab in the dark
If I remember rightly a love rat sold for ยฃ10k at auction ages ago. I haven't heard of one since. Prices seem to have been going up steadily. I guess a placard rat is worth less. But using my psychic powers I reckon the lover rat would now be about 12k. And using wild guesswork I would conclude with no supporting evidence whatsoever that a placard rat might be worth ยฃ8k-10k. - It a stab in the dark
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JJN
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by JJN on Apr 23, 2017 15:55:04 GMT 1, I have the original signed paint on canvas edition of 15 if anyone is interested, not super keen to sell but if anyone is seriously looking for 1 DM me.
I have the original signed paint on canvas edition of 15 if anyone is interested, not super keen to sell but if anyone is seriously looking for 1 DM me.
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JJN
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by JJN on Apr 23, 2017 16:29:21 GMT 1, I guess PM Pest Control they will tell you if real or not
I guess PM Pest Control they will tell you if real or not
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milo99
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by milo99 on Apr 23, 2017 16:56:54 GMT 1, Probably fake, anyway I think pest control don't authenticate
Probably fake, anyway I think pest control don't authenticate
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by sleazus1slord on Apr 23, 2017 18:39:06 GMT 1, Looks cool. Post it on ebay for $15,000 or best offer if pest control wont validate your lottery ticket.
Looks cool. Post it on ebay for $15,000 or best offer if pest control wont validate your lottery ticket.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by Majestic on Apr 23, 2017 19:35:11 GMT 1, Impossible to know really - I see so many stencil templates on ebay for banksy that these can be easily sprayed on absolutely anything with a nice story added for good measure.
Either way, good luck with it!
Impossible to know really - I see so many stencil templates on ebay for banksy that these can be easily sprayed on absolutely anything with a nice story added for good measure.
Either way, good luck with it!
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 21:35:00 GMT 1, People are very polite on here
People are very polite on here
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milo99
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by milo99 on Apr 23, 2017 21:52:34 GMT 1, Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay ยฃ20 max
Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay ยฃ20 max
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highflyer
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 23, 2017 21:55:31 GMT 1, Haters gonna hate
Haters gonna hate
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by sleazus1slord on Apr 24, 2017 3:37:19 GMT 1, Pretty great for a gag gift. Make it seem very important like you believe it's real, and paid a gazillion for it.
Pretty great for a gag gift. Make it seem very important like you believe it's real, and paid a gazillion for it.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:02:55 GMT 1, I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this. I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion. Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest? And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing. (9+10+5)/3=8 This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market.
I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more.
I really wish people would qualify opinions such as this. I've seen a lot of numbers offered as valuation for prints but often they seem to be based on wishful thinking and/or crude speculation. Without showing the working, in the form of actual agreed sales prices, or historical evidence for an increasing (or decreasing) price trend I would have little confidence in any such opinion. Have you seen this particular print sell for the price you suggest? And, no, I do not own either of the prints discussed here, and have zero interest in ever owning either, so have no vested interest in their pricing. (9+10+5)/3=8 This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more.
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highflyer
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 24, 2017 11:12:41 GMT 1, This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands.ย In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more.ย
I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes.
This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands.ย In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more.ย I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes.
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mla
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by mla on Apr 24, 2017 11:15:57 GMT 1, Cretin? Show a little respect. You were asked a legitimate question and the response is totally justified.
Cretin? Show a little respect. You were asked a legitimate question and the response is totally justified.
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highflyer
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 24, 2017 11:34:49 GMT 1, The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha
The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:37:03 GMT 1, This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more. I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes. Thanks for the reply.
I would argue that justification of the price who offered is EXACTLY what you would need to do therefore, considering your seemingly baseless price plucking, I'd advise the OP to disregard your opinion as I certainly will be in the future.
This sort of validates my point and leads me to conclude that you picked a price out of the air. Being unable to offer any evidence for the price you suggest could easily lead a third party to conclude that you are manipulating the market. I've seen this sort of baseless advice offered on a couple of threads recently (I don't check that many) and find it concerning, especially when the advice offered relates to artworks costing many thousands. In the short term, the guy who asked the question may now walk away from what may be (or, indeed, may not be) a fair price for that print and the next time he finds a print in similar condition, with good provenance, it could well cost him more. I don't need to justify it to you or anyone else you concerned cretin. He asked for an estimated value, I gave him one. He can do with it what he likes. Thanks for the reply. I would argue that justification of the price who offered is EXACTLY what you would need to do therefore, considering your seemingly baseless price plucking, I'd advise the OP to disregard your opinion as I certainly will be in the future.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:40:53 GMT 1, The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha No, 'the guy' suggested that offering financial advice without justification could easily lead to that conclusion.
Which it does.
It's not a stretch to imagine a scenario in which someone who is considering buying this print now, or in the near future, talks down prices in order to ensure a better price for himself is it?
The guy thinks I'm manipulating the Banksy market hahahaha No, 'the guy' suggested that offering financial advice without justification could easily lead to that conclusion. Which it does. It's not a stretch to imagine a scenario in which someone who is considering buying this print now, or in the near future, talks down prices in order to ensure a better price for himself is it?
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by serpico001 on Apr 24, 2017 11:47:18 GMT 1, Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay ยฃ20 max
So part of your criteria for A Banksy street piece is that it has to look dirty/weathered ๐๐๐๐๐
I'm not trying to sell this piece so have nothing to gain by buying A stencil from eBay & A bit of board from b&q & spraying it on myself then upload it to this forum. It IS about 15 years old & it HAS been stored in my parents loft for the last 10. I know that 100% for certain. Are you certain that I sprayed this last week? If so you know Jack about Banksy.
I've got A boatload of old Banksy prints dude why would I want to make A fake street piece!!! I'm A 46 year old father of 2,believe me I've got better things to do in life.
Yes they are ha, looks like was sprayed last week, nice clean board. Should be on ebay ยฃ20 max So part of your criteria for A Banksy street piece is that it has to look dirty/weathered ๐๐๐๐๐ I'm not trying to sell this piece so have nothing to gain by buying A stencil from eBay & A bit of board from b&q & spraying it on myself then upload it to this forum. It IS about 15 years old & it HAS been stored in my parents loft for the last 10. I know that 100% for certain. Are you certain that I sprayed this last week? If so you know Jack about Banksy. I've got A boatload of old Banksy prints dude why would I want to make A fake street piece!!! I'm A 46 year old father of 2,believe me I've got better things to do in life.
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highflyer
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 24, 2017 11:51:56 GMT 1, Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him.
Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 11:53:02 GMT 1, Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him. You are awfully dramatic but, yes, I think it would be for the best if you no longer offered such 'advice'.
Sooo bored of this. Sorry to the guy who asked for help. I won't bother next time. Anyone else who owns that print, sorry for manipulating the price down. You must be gutted. I can hear the crash of Banksy print prices as I tap. Other than the guy as he doesn't care fortunately for him. You are awfully dramatic but, yes, I think it would be for the best if you no longer offered such 'advice'.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by SturbanHasSaggyTits on Apr 24, 2017 11:54:34 GMT 1, Only you and your cousin will know the true provenance. To anyone else it could be a fake and so worth very little. If it was mine, I would get it on the wall and treasure it for what it is.
Only you and your cousin will know the true provenance. To anyone else it could be a fake and so worth very little. If it was mine, I would get it on the wall and treasure it for what it is.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by serpico001 on Apr 24, 2017 12:01:17 GMT 1, Only you and your cousin will know the true provenance. To anyone else it could be a fake and so worth very little. If it was mine, I would get it on the wall and treasure it for what it is.
I agree & I will treasure it.
Only you and your cousin will know the true provenance. To anyone else it could be a fake and so worth very little. If it was mine, I would get it on the wall and treasure it for what it is. I agree & I will treasure it.
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highflyer
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by highflyer on Apr 24, 2017 12:13:10 GMT 1, You just put your own word in inverted commas...
I have received thanks from the person who asked for help. Which was appreciated.
I'm not interested in guy with too much time on his hands who thinks he knows it all. That's why I gave you my workings in simple terms.
But you continue with your essays. I'm not interested. I don't care guy. Move along.
You just put your own word in inverted commas...
I have received thanks from the person who asked for help. Which was appreciated.
I'm not interested in guy with too much time on his hands who thinks he knows it all. That's why I gave you my workings in simple terms.
But you continue with your essays. I'm not interested. I don't care guy. Move along.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by disappointed on Apr 24, 2017 14:13:59 GMT 1, You just put your own word in inverted commas... I have received thanks from the person who asked for help. Which was appreciated. I'm not interested in guy with too much time on his hands who thinks he knows it all. That's why I gave you my workings in simple terms. But you continue with your essays. I'm not interested. I don't care guy. Move along. I asked you a simple question requesting support for the price you offered. Now, you could have responded by offering prices of recent sales of that print or even 'it's just a hunch' but instead you've acted like a scolded child, throwing insults and sarcasm around with quite some abandon.
I'm unsure why you would consider requesting supporting evidence from someone offering what is, in effect, financial advice to be my 'thinking he knows it all' as I absolutely do not think I know it all. What I am seeking to do is help the guy who posted the question, and any others reading this thread, by requesting evidence for your suggested price.
You may not realise, may not believe it, and may not be guilty of it, but the art market is being played, people are being exploited, and prices being manipulated every single day therefore I would suggest it to be in the interest of this community that, when discussing prices, transparency and clarity are paramount. Unqualified advice such as 'No. ยฃ8k' should as per any unqualified information be treated with, at best, caution but, really, should be ignored.
As for 'essays' well that's just me treating you with more respect than perhaps you deserve by attempting to maintain discourse at an adult, rather than playground, level.
You just put your own word in inverted commas... I have received thanks from the person who asked for help. Which was appreciated. I'm not interested in guy with too much time on his hands who thinks he knows it all. That's why I gave you my workings in simple terms. But you continue with your essays. I'm not interested. I don't care guy. Move along. I asked you a simple question requesting support for the price you offered. Now, you could have responded by offering prices of recent sales of that print or even 'it's just a hunch' but instead you've acted like a scolded child, throwing insults and sarcasm around with quite some abandon. I'm unsure why you would consider requesting supporting evidence from someone offering what is, in effect, financial advice to be my 'thinking he knows it all' as I absolutely do not think I know it all. What I am seeking to do is help the guy who posted the question, and any others reading this thread, by requesting evidence for your suggested price. You may not realise, may not believe it, and may not be guilty of it, but the art market is being played, people are being exploited, and prices being manipulated every single day therefore I would suggest it to be in the interest of this community that, when discussing prices, transparency and clarity are paramount. Unqualified advice such as 'No. ยฃ8k' should as per any unqualified information be treated with, at best, caution but, really, should be ignored. As for 'essays' well that's just me treating you with more respect than perhaps you deserve by attempting to maintain discourse at an adult, rather than playground, level.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by milo99 on Apr 24, 2017 16:40:31 GMT 1, Ok fantastic
Ok fantastic
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by Gangsta Nola on Jul 11, 2017 22:46:06 GMT 1, Evening All
As Per the Subject header
A Signed Edition of 46
I bought this in early 2015 from a well-respected member of this forum (Wenters). Framed and hung in my baby daughters nursery, to be handed on to her. Unfortunately needs must, times are hard and we need to buy a house so need to liquidate some assets. I will, however, buy another one in the future, no doubt costing more but she'll get her rat back !!
The print was framed by John Jones, in London, float mounted, using Japanese hinges. You can see a slight shadow of the hinges in a certain light but I have been advised by, again, a well-respected dealer on this forum, that it should only need a press, if ever removed.
I have shown a photo of the print prior to framing for clarity.
I am based in Chichester, near Portsmouth, and would prefer a face to face within reasonable distance.
Was unsure what price to put on it, but having spoken to a number of dealers/galleries, offering early 30's to buy as is, I would think at least ยฃ35,000+ would seem reasonable for a private sale. I'm sure I'll be told otherwise if I'm way off !!
PM if interested, low-ballers welcome, but may not get a reply, but I'll take the rough with the smooth !
Those in the know, realise how seldom these prints come into circulation.
Many thanks in advance
GN
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Evening All As Per the Subject header A Signed Edition of 46 I bought this in early 2015 from a well-respected member of this forum (Wenters). Framed and hung in my baby daughters nursery, to be handed on to her. Unfortunately needs must, times are hard and we need to buy a house so need to liquidate some assets. I will, however, buy another one in the future, no doubt costing more but she'll get her rat back !! The print was framed by John Jones, in London, float mounted, using Japanese hinges. You can see a slight shadow of the hinges in a certain light but I have been advised by, again, a well-respected dealer on this forum, that it should only need a press, if ever removed. I have shown a photo of the print prior to framing for clarity. I am based in Chichester, near Portsmouth, and would prefer a face to face within reasonable distance. Was unsure what price to put on it, but having spoken to a number of dealers/galleries, offering early 30's to buy as is, I would think at least ยฃ35,000+ would seem reasonable for a private sale. I'm sure I'll be told otherwise if I'm way off !! PM if interested, low-ballers welcome, but may not get a reply, but I'll take the rough with the smooth ! Those in the know, realise how seldom these prints come into circulation. Many thanks in advance GN upload and share your photosfast image hostingupload photos to websitetemp image host
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by JL Broooks on Jul 11, 2017 22:52:43 GMT 1, Stunner! Believe it is a good price as well.
Stunner! Believe it is a good price as well.
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by covertshadowops on Jul 11, 2017 22:55:56 GMT 1, damn... on saturday i will be holidaying in Bracklesham Bay... might drop in for a cuppa!
damn... on saturday i will be holidaying in Bracklesham Bay... might drop in for a cuppa!
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by JJN on Jul 12, 2017 7:38:46 GMT 1, Great Piece and great sales Thread - Exactly how it should be done & priced correctly IMO ( iconic and AP)
Great Piece and great sales Thread - Exactly how it should be done & priced correctly IMO ( iconic and AP)
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Banksy โข Gangsta Rat Print, by JJN on Jul 12, 2017 7:38:58 GMT 1, GLWTS
GLWTS
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