Banksy • Festival, Destroy Capitalism

[Rubberneck]

Sept 16, 2020 11:27:16 GMT 1 kaos said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:21:49 GMT 1 cosmic said:

There are no unsigned Radar Rats 

Yes, there is. 

I was told about an edition of 25 unsigned last year and thought that it was crap... I suspect they were backdoor as the edition was only signed.. but if someone could post up a COA I'd believe it then..

[cest]

Sept 16, 2020 11:53:24 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

I never liked this print enough to get either signed or unsigned framed

Haha, but enough to keep it?

[tab1]

Sept 16, 2020 11:53:24 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

I never liked this print enough to get either signed or unsigned framed

Are there issues in the grey with the first print ? Or just bad lighting?

[cosmic]

Sept 16, 2020 11:53:24 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

I never liked this print enough to get either signed or unsigned framed

Background difference

[tab1]

Sept 16, 2020 12:01:59 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

bad lighting

You could complete the first trade of banksy swap for a detached 1/2 mill house in a few months at this rate 😂

I came across a thread 6 years ago and a member had 11 banksy prints all framed , do you beat this?

[beicoblack]

Sept 16, 2020 12:01:59 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

bad lighting

Nice. A few lovely WCP prints. You wanna trade? 

[Deleted]

Sept 16, 2020 12:09:47 GMT 1 tab1 said:

Sept 16, 2020 12:01:59 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

bad lighting

You could complete the first trade of banksy swap for a detached 1/2 mill house in a few months at this rate 😂

I came across a thread 6 years ago and a member had 11 banksy prints all framed , do you beat this?

11?? Unless I was already a millionaire, I would find it extremely hard to resist the temptation not to just keep a few favourites and sell the rest. Whatever the 11 are, that's a minimum of £500k on the wall. I don't think any piece of art could make my life better than £500k.

[met]

Sept 16, 2020 11:52:30 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:31:02 GMT 1 JockoLad said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:29:44 GMT 1 @peacekeeper said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:27:16 GMT 1 kaos said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:21:49 GMT 1 cosmic said:

Sept 16, 2020 10:44:52 GMT 1 kaos said:

Sept 16, 2020 7:44:46 GMT 1 cosmic said:

Is this the rarest of all unsigned prints ?

No. Radar Rat is.

There are no unsigned Radar Rats 

Yes, there is. 

No there isn't.  Dirty Funker EP doesnt count

Oh yes there is...

Oh no there isn't.....as a print all signed edition of 75. 

I wouldn't describe it as a proper edition — because it's likely to be a single print, and the result of a quick-fix response to an earlier human error at POW — but technically Radar Rat has become an unsigned edition of 25.*

As with many things Banksy-related, those with experience (and who've also learned from that experience) will appreciate how it can often be unwise to assert a negative by claiming something does not exist.

[Rubberneck]

It’s signed in invisible ink, hold a candle under it to make the signature show ...

[cosmic]

totally new to me also , advice taken Met , thanks

[hnkpnk]

Sept 16, 2020 11:20:23 GMT 1 Rubberneck said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:03:19 GMT 1 Lazarus II said:

there are a couple of threads on it on here, will try find them later but im pretty sure that even though they are numbered up to 500 that there are only circa 100 unsigned and 6 signed sets and the 6 signed were A/P’s. That said, you were at the show so you will know better than most😊

I was near the front of the queue, they set up some tables near the office at the entrance.   I remember they did run out pretty quickly and was grateful to get some in hand but people still queued (to pay?) and to go on a list, so could be that only 100 were sold on the night and the rest sent out later, pretty sure thats what happened .. if any one has access to the old ebay forum threads I'll be on there as lukeandsuzy discussing it at the time.   

If there were only 100 I'll add that to the flagellation list along with the 14 other prints in the Sotheby's sale.... 

As I wrote on another thread (slightly edited):

"I'm pretty sure it's like this. 

All six Barely Legal prints were supposed to be 150 signed + 500 unsigned. 

At the show (and a bit after) there were about 100 of each unsigned released + pp's and a few VIP prints signed. All printed by Modern Multiples. 

So 100 unsigned and (my guess) about ten- fifteen signed of each of the six. (Maybe six p/p and the rest marked /150)

The rest of the Modern Multiples editions were scrapped. Edit: MM never printed all the 6x650 prints because they didn't have enough time before the show opened. 

POW later completed the editions for Morons, Grannies, Trolleys and Applause. That is, produced 400 unsigned and about 140 signed. (Plus new editions of sepia Morons (300) and color Trolleys (750) (and Bethlehem Trolleys )). 

Festival was only rereleased as an a/p edition of about 30 (can't remember the exact number) with a slightly different composition. 

Sale Ends was rereleased as a new, different edition of 500. The rest of the v1, signed and unsigned, was never released. "

[Rubberneck]

Sept 16, 2020 15:31:29 GMT 1 hnkpnk said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:20:23 GMT 1 Rubberneck said:

I was near the front of the queue, they set up some tables near the office at the entrance.   I remember they did run out pretty quickly and was grateful to get some in hand but people still queued (to pay?) and to go on a list, so could be that only 100 were sold on the night and the rest sent out later, pretty sure thats what happened .. if any one has access to the old ebay forum threads I'll be on there as lukeandsuzy discussing it at the time.   

If there were only 100 I'll add that to the flagellation list along with the 14 other prints in the Sotheby's sale.... 

As I wrote on another thread (slightly edited):

"I'm pretty sure it's like this. 

All six Barely Legal prints were supposed to be 150 signed + 500 unsigned. 

At the show (and a bit after) there were about 100 of each unsigned released + pp's and a few VIP prints signed. All printed by Modern Multiples. 

So 100 unsigned and (my guess) about ten- fifteen signed of each of the six. (Maybe six p/p and the rest marked /150)

The rest of the Modern Multiples editions were scrapped. Edit: MM never printed all the 6x650 prints because they didn't have enough time before the show opened. 

POW later completed the editions for Morons, Grannies, Trolleys and Applause. That is, produced 400 unsigned and about 140 signed. (Plus new editions of sepia Morons (300) and color Trolleys (750) (and Bethlehem Trolleys )). 

Festival was only rereleased as an a/p edition of about 30 (can't remember the exact number) with a slightly different composition. 

Sale Ends was rereleased as a new, different edition of 500. The rest of the v1, signed and unsigned, was never released. "

Thanks hnkpnk, yes that makes sense. 

[cosmic]

Festival and Festival A/P

[kaos]

Sept 16, 2020 11:35:32 GMT 1 cosmic said:

I Would like to see evidence of an unsigned Radar Rat as i have never seen or heard of any please

LOL. Just because you haven't seen or heard of any does not make it a fact. 

[cosmic]

Sept 16, 2020 16:45:52 GMT 1 kaos said:

Sept 16, 2020 11:35:32 GMT 1 cosmic said:

I Would like to see evidence of an unsigned Radar Rat as i have never seen or heard of any please

LOL. Just because you haven't seen or heard of any does not make it a fact. 

Very true

[dotdot]

iirc Festival was printed by MM.
... the ap was printed by pow. (way later)

COA's came from PC .. so still not actually convinced there was 500.
Even though PC COA says xx/500.

Also - not enough evidence to prove either way unless "PC says xxx coas' have been sent out.." - which i very much doubt they'd be inclined to do.

.. while we're at it MM sales ends V1 is nothing like V2 - which should tally with MM destroying the acetates (as per the video from MM on production of the "Barely Legal" prints) which brings the question so how did POW manage to produce the AP for Festival , if said acetate used by MM was destroyed.. ?

Festival is a tricky print.. to fathom.

[vvk]

Sept 16, 2020 18:11:36 GMT 1 dotdot said:

iirc Festival was printed by MM.
... the ap was printed by pow. (way later)

COA's came from PC .. so still not actually convinced there was 500.
Even though PC COA says xx/500.

Also - not enough evidence to prove either way unless "PC says xxx coas' have been sent out.." - which i very much doubt they'd be inclined to do.

.. while we're at it MM sales ends V1 is nothing like V2 - which should tally with MM destroying the acetates (as per the video from MM on production of the "Barely Legal" prints) which brings the question so how did POW manage to produce the AP for Festival , if said acetate used by MM was destroyed.. ?

Festival is a tricky print.. to fathom.

those "acetates" were computer / image setter printed.  you could make as many as you wanted  to  if you had the  file. and yes. if you look sreal close and compare the MM & POW ones you will notice differences.  looking forward to  seeing what these are going for.  been wanting one  for a while but probally out of  my reach, just like a  over priced  festival tee shirt.

[hnkpnk]

Sept 16, 2020 15:55:06 GMT 1 cosmic said:

Festival and Festival A/P

The second pic in Cosmic's post is a bit strange I think. Looks like it's hand finished. The pic is from Hexagon Gallery and they say it's one of 17 ("Signed AP - 17").
hexagongallery.com/catalog/artist/banksy/festival-destroy-capitalism/

I have only seen the AP version that looks like this one:

But that one says AP/10 as you can see if you magnify on this page:
www.artsy.net/artwork/banksy-festival-destroy-capitalism-14

Anyone knows the answers?

[cosmic]

Festival a/p is a signed edition of 33
Festival a/p hand finished is a signed edition of 17

the Hexagon Gallery link is very interesting indeed !!

[Adam The Collector]

[hnkpnk]

Sept 16, 2020 20:25:09 GMT 1 cosmic said:

Festival a/p is a signed edition of 33
Festival a/p hand finished is a signed edition of 17

the Hexagon Gallery link is very interesting indeed !!

So there are two AP editions?

[cosmic]

Hexagon on the site says of 17
A/P Print photo i have says ##/33
Thats all i know

[Dice]

I looked into this a few years ago.

There are two ap runs.

Edition 33 (these were apparently given away but it’s possible the full run wasn’t completed).

And edition 17 (various backgrounds). These are not hand finished though. Numbering here is AP/1, AP/2 AP/3 etc

[cosmic]

Sept 16, 2020 22:00:16 GMT 1 Dice said:

I looked into this a few years ago.

There are two ap runs.

Edition 33 (these were apparently given away but it’s possible the full run wasn’t completed).

And edition 17 (various backgrounds). These are not hand finished though. Numbering here is AP/1, AP/2 AP/3 etc

Thanks !
another reason i believe there were only 100 unsigned released is that are so very rarely seen for sale

[cosmic]

The set of 6 L.A prints were originally going to be 7 , time restrictions didn't allow it

[vvk]

\  R.I.P  Richard

[Pipes]

Sept 16, 2020 23:23:10 GMT 1 vvk said:

\  R.I.P  Richard

Wonder if Jake T and Greg A still have them !

[vvk]

Sept 16, 2020 23:27:10 GMT 1 Pipes said:

Wonder if Jake T and Greg A still have them !

I wonder if  Thierry Guetta AKA  Mr. Brainwash still has his set.
Maybe he sold it to  fund his print  shop.

[vvk]

if i recall Wasn't there some prints where the stroller on the left side is cut off, or was that the original?
edit . it was  this  one.

def  difrent  then that  other one. funny is that you dont even notice it  until you see them side by side.
I wonder what the story  was  on this.

[cosmic]

Sept 16, 2020 23:31:38 GMT 1 vvk said:

if i recall Wasn't there some prints where the stroller on the left side is cut off, or was that the original?
edit . it was  this  one.

def  difrent  then that hand finished one.

it was cut off on the standard edition seen above
they were not hand finished