[Heavyconsumer]

While I don't love the image per-say, like several Beejoir pieces I do like the message. I hope they give the heads up for the release over at SOS, as I'd like to grab one of these. It ties in with my own personal attitude toward "religion" in the conventional sense. The only image of his that I've really been into, just for the image's sake was LV Child. The pricing is a little disappointing, but I think it's "worth it". People are already spending a lot more than £250 for signed pieces of his on weebay. I fear however that the flippers will be all over this like a bad rash!!!

[tmccarthy41]

sitting on LVC, and Lies, so naturally I'll be looking to grab this... any idea as to actual drop date? if not, I'll email chris & find out

[Heavyconsumer]

tmccarthy41, I'd love to know and would greatly appreciate a heads up if you can get any info regarding "drop date"!!

[hendrix]

Ok so let's knock the Christians eh. Why doesn’t he do something derogatory about the Muslim faith!!!! or any other faith for that matter. I think this is distasteful and I find it offensive.

[lastpost]

hendrix said:

Ok so let's knock the Christians eh. Why doesn’t he do something derogatory about the Muslim faith!!!! or any other for that matter. I think this is distasful and I find it offensive.

Because that is not allowed...

As for it being offensive, may I suggest that you don't purchase then?

[hendrix]

My point exactly, but it's ok to do it to Christians.

[mammal2]

I really want to see how his is made! Its costing them 75 quid a pop just for the paper so it should be quite special!

[jon0]

about as offensive as a narrow minded comment... --- because doing something ''derogatory about the Mulsim faith'' is of course a very christian thing to say...

read some history books and open the mind a bit-- you'll probably find religion is fair game- but then maybe not. some people are too far gone.

[hendrix]

As last post said "that is not allowed" and nor it should be. Your Zebra is fair game and lovely with chips.

[jynormous]

hendrix said:

Ok so let's knock the Christians eh. Why doesn’t he do something derogatory about the Muslim faith!!!! or any other faith for that matter. I think this is distasteful and I find it offensive.

Religion is the biggest scam in the world, with Christianity sitting high and mighty in first place.

Let’s not forget, the pope recently updated the “old sins” list to be more in touch with today’s society. The first thing added was “unnecessary wealth”. This coming from the Vatican, the richest country in the world....please!

Religion is a scam, it will always be a scam and it will always be the number one cause of wars around the world.

In my opinion, it deserves all it gets.

* Please note, this is my opinion and my opinion only. Im not saying mine is more valid than yours, im just pointing out the facts.

[Deleted]

hendrix said:

Ok so let's knock the Christians eh. Why doesn’t he do something derogatory about the Muslim faith!!!! or any other faith for that matter. I think this is distasteful and I find it offensive.

if you knew anything about the muslim faith, youd know that Jesus and Mary are both Muslim prophets. so actually this could be considered anti Muslim. stop reading the daily mail

[manchestermike]

It's always fun knocking Christians... they turn the other cheek and let you do it all over again ;D

I fully agree with jynormous - and Christians are up there with the worst of the lot of them for shoving their beliefs down your throat...

My god is the real god, no my god is the real god... it's like kids is a playground!

You'll never go to heaven - good neither will you, you'll die and rot like the rest of us

One great big money making exercise to benefit the few.



I may well buy this to sit next to my Toxic Mary and really piss off my Catholic visitors (hi mum ;D )

[mcnuts]

slammer said:

stop reading the daily mail

classic

ps the art is still shit.

[Cocteau 101]

This seemed rather apt

[Cocteau 101]

[hendrix]

cocteau101 love that peice

[woodsman]

I don't recall Christians burning effigies in the street and killing people for allegedly mocking the Prophet Muhammad. Could it be Christians are an easier target with less likelihood of repercussions....i agree about organized religion though. Load of bollox innit. and at least its not skulls and guns

[robinbanks]

I have to say I am also very offended by this piece - but its got sod all to do with my religious beliefs.

I mean, what exactly it is that people like about it?

Oh I get it, it says "clealy a virgin" but the image is blurred - oh how very droll.

[woodsman]

robinbanks said:

I have to say I am also very offended by this piece - but its got sod all to do with my religious beliefs.

I mean, what exactly it is that people like about it?

Oh I get it, it says "clealy a virgin" but the image is blurred - oh how very droll.

What he said!

[carlito]

its called a wry smile....

also maybe this actually asking a question about faith rather than simply saying yeahhhh right she was a virgin...

i love how when something is fairly simple to understand (like 99.9% of all street art) we get the 'oh how intellectually superior I am for finding this so easy to understand....' well hey guys I understand it too and I like it!'....it's called a difference in taste

[mcnuts]

robinbanks said:

I have to say I am also very offended by this piece - but its got sod all to do with my religious beliefs.

I mean, what exactly it is that people like about it?

Oh I get it, it says "clealy a virgin" but the image is blurred - oh how very droll.

thats exactly it. Religion itself is a whole other kettle BUT this type of imagery / message is sooooooo A level. What next a painting of a business man on a cross or something? Right. Like that would happen!

[carlito]

mcnuts said:

robinbanks said:

I have to say I am also very offended by this piece - but its got sod all to do with my religious beliefs.

I mean, what exactly it is that people like about it?

Oh I get it, it says "clealy a virgin" but the image is blurred - oh how very droll.

thats exactly it. Religion itself is a whole other kettle BUT this type of imagery / message is sooooooo A level. What next the picture of a business man on a cross or something?

u and me outside now! i'll wear my business suit

[dotdot]

robinbanks said:

I have to say I am also very offended by this piece - but its got sod all to do with my religious beliefs.

I mean, what exactly it is that people like about it?

Oh I get it, it says "clealy a virgin" but the image is blurred - oh how very droll.

sticking my neck out - I've got to agree with you.

First time i saw it I did not like it AT ALL.

No i don't mind when people say - but it's great etc - i
have to be honest and say my gut feel was - this is
actually distasteful....in the same way as i was offended
by PE's car crash images.

I'm all for provocation in whatever form - but when a line - where-ever that lies is crossed the image loses it's potential
appeal and falls short i'm sure of it's underlying
objective - which i'd imagine is to make people think or
laugh - depending on who the artist is.

Alas it's an image - if people like it fine - go for it - alas i'm out on this one - I'm sure there's other ideas in this guys head which may resonate positive - we'll see (let's hope so..)

..

[woodsman]

Could it be that we are all getting fed up what i call "6th form poetry". Yes we all know war is bad, capitalism is bad, poverty is bad....blah, blah, blah

[kingdomcome]

Im Brian! No, Im Brian!

[Heavyconsumer]

When I referenced in passing my own beliefs tying in with this piece, I was hoping the fact that it was in passing may have set a trend where peoplle didn't begin knocking eachothers' faiths or faith in general. Making a statement of religious belief will ALWAYS be offending someone or other. I like the fact that Chris has the stomach to make a likeminded statement through his art. He runs the risk of alienating many "fans" (most religious minds can be pretty blinkered, hence their state of religion). However I do feel that in any discussion, debate it is important to remember to try and respect the other peoples' freedom to choose their own beliefs. When they die however, we can all laugh, point and sing "where's your heaven gone?"!!!

[reznyce]

hendrix said:

Ok so let's knock the Christians eh. Why doesn’t he do something derogatory about the Muslim faith!!!! or any other faith for that matter. I think this is distasteful and I find it offensive.

I feel compelled to comment.

You speak as if nothing derogatory is pointed at Muslims. Lets see...How about tons of bombs dropped on their cities every day? how about collective punishment in Palestine?How about looting natural resources from beneath their feet? How about water-boarding, Guantanamo, Abu-ghraib.........?

Dear hendrix. I think Muslims are getting it in a lot of ways.. You need to open your eyes my friend.

[daisy]

What would my mum say?

[manchestermike]

daisy said:

What would my mum say?

Probably the same as what my mum says when she sees my Toxic Mary ;D

[daisy]

What would my mum think?