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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by deedubs on Nov 9, 2017 23:42:45 GMT 1, I just can´t get over the fact that I love the Learning to Fly image… Thinking of selling some prints to get it, including maybe my Dancer by MW.. What is a fair price on the unsigned Learning to fly print now? Thanks for input.
Depends if you are talking the colour or black and white ones?
As far as I know the colour (ed of 50) originally sold at Marks and Stencils were all signed. I've seen these being offered by few places in the region of £3.5k upwards.
I think the B&W ones were unsigned - think they would probably be going for around £1 - £1.5 k from what I've seen.
I just can´t get over the fact that I love the Learning to Fly image… Thinking of selling some prints to get it, including maybe my Dancer by MW.. What is a fair price on the unsigned Learning to fly print now? Thanks for input. Depends if you are talking the colour or black and white ones? As far as I know the colour (ed of 50) originally sold at Marks and Stencils were all signed. I've seen these being offered by few places in the region of £3.5k upwards. I think the B&W ones were unsigned - think they would probably be going for around £1 - £1.5 k from what I've seen. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by matgab on Nov 13, 2017 20:47:50 GMT 1, Agreed. A classic image, nice size print with a few hand finished bits and bobs, and a decent buy at this evaluation. Assuming you are a Dran lover, of course. I own one and it’s lovely in person. I'd have to agree also. Such a great print! It first got my interested in becoming a collector, and now it hangs nicely on my wall.   )
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Agreed. A classic image, nice size print with a few hand finished bits and bobs, and a decent buy at this evaluation. Assuming you are a Dran lover, of course. I own one and it’s lovely in person. I'd have to agree also. Such a great print! It first got my interested in becoming a collector, and now it hangs nicely on my wall. Please Tommh ... ) rrrrrrrh |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by dexterbulldog on Dec 1, 2017 0:32:04 GMT 1, I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer.
They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently.
Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here.
I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double.
Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller.
I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer.
They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently.
Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here.
I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double.
Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller.
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by jkesquire on Dec 1, 2017 4:33:32 GMT 1, I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer. They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently. Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here. I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double. Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller.
I commented on that thread mentioning your exact sale, and I’ve been regretting not buying it myself ever since. I think you were a very reasonable seller at the time and I absolutey agree that $8000 now is a stretch. 5-6k seems to be more reasonable now as you said. I’ve been after I love you and I’d probably pay a premium for a prime example...but 8k is still too high.
I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer. They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently. Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here. I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double. Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller. I commented on that thread mentioning your exact sale, and I’ve been regretting not buying it myself ever since. I think you were a very reasonable seller at the time and I absolutey agree that $8000 now is a stretch. 5-6k seems to be more reasonable now as you said. I’ve been after I love you and I’d probably pay a premium for a prime example...but 8k is still too high. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by saintred88 on Dec 1, 2017 5:05:33 GMT 1, I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer. They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently. Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here. I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double. Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller.
Art buying is all relative. Some people buy high, some people buy low..
I would pay $6k 7k USD for a Dran I love you that had either the green red or blue hoodie with color signature, but that’s just me.
I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer. They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently. Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here. I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double. Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller. Art buying is all relative. Some people buy high, some people buy low.. I would pay $6k 7k USD for a Dran I love you that had either the green red or blue hoodie with color signature, but that’s just me. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by met on Dec 1, 2017 5:47:49 GMT 1, I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer. They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently. Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here. I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double. Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller.
Under the circumstances you describe, I would challenge the decision to delete what you wrote.
Your post was relevant to that sale thread. It was also based on first-hand, recent sales experience of a comparable artwork.
The issue comes down to whose interests should be given priority:
(A) Potential buyers here who might be inexperienced or otherwise unfamiliar with the market, and who may therefore be led into paying too much?
(B) Or a seller looking to offload for significantly above the current market value (and possibly hoping to exploit the ignorance or naivety of other forum members)?
If your answer is (A), then it would seem preferable to post where buyers are most likely to actually see your post and immediately benefit from it. This would be in the sale thread itself. In any other thread, such a post could easily be overlooked.
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There's a huge difference, including one of intent, between:
(i) your original deleted post; and
(ii) someone who (out of pettiness or malice) is simply looking to disrupt a sale, or disingenuously play down the perceived value of artwork they wish to purchase themselves.
I made a comment on the recent I love you sale thread and then deleted it as to not be a derailer. They said these are selling for $8 or $8.5k and mentioned that was the level of private sales recently. Even at drans peak these weren't selling for that so while I feel that's a BS benchmark provided by the seller, I don't want to ruin a For Sale thread with bickering by those with vested interests. Better to discuss here. I recently sold mine for 4200 and I was actually offered 4500 just before I was closing my deal, but even before that sale closed it sat for 2 months, with lots of time wasting for a decent example. For arguments sake I was the last seller at that level and a new level has to come to fruition to pry it out of the sellers hands. So these are now $5k to maybe $6k for a desperate buyer or a prime example. I just don't think they would double. Would most agree with this? I'm not salty even though I sold mine for too low apparently, I'm not bitter at the market, just don't think it's at the levels being advertised by the seller. Under the circumstances you describe, I would challenge the decision to delete what you wrote. Your post was relevant to that sale thread. It was also based on first-hand, recent sales experience of a comparable artwork. The issue comes down to whose interests should be given priority: (A) Potential buyers here who might be inexperienced or otherwise unfamiliar with the market, and who may therefore be led into paying too much? (B) Or a seller looking to offload for significantly above the current market value (and possibly hoping to exploit the ignorance or naivety of other forum members)? If your answer is (A), then it would seem preferable to post where buyers are most likely to actually see your post and immediately benefit from it. This would be in the sale thread itself. In any other thread, such a post could easily be overlooked. _____________ There's a huge difference, including one of intent, between: (i) your original deleted post; and (ii) someone who (out of pettiness or malice) is simply looking to disrupt a sale, or disingenuously play down the perceived value of artwork they wish to purchase themselves. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by goingdownthedran on Jan 1, 2018 15:01:15 GMT 1, Hi all, and happy new year!
Thinking about selling a couple of Dran pieces to finance some building work. I'm curious as I've seen values seem to be creeping up.
I will make a proper "For sale" post in due course, but would love some input on what people think fair prices for the following are. I won't necessarily be selling them all. I love all three but two don't even have wallspace right now.
New Domestic Companions canvas (newspaper/mixed media) - bought at the "Marks and Stencils" exhibition in London, 2010. Framed from purchase and in perfect condition.
Exhibit - (signed edition of 100) bought from the same exhibition, framed from purchase but has a tiny wrinkle/mark just by the edition number so I can't say its perfect condition. I saw further up this thread, price estimate is around £1.5K - anyone care to differ?
Le Char (aka Tank Girl) (signed edition of 99, low number) - Purchased in 2011 from a forum member, framed and in perfect condition.
Hi all, and happy new year! Thinking about selling a couple of Dran pieces to finance some building work. I'm curious as I've seen values seem to be creeping up. I will make a proper "For sale" post in due course, but would love some input on what people think fair prices for the following are. I won't necessarily be selling them all. I love all three but two don't even have wallspace right now. New Domestic Companions canvas (newspaper/mixed media) - bought at the "Marks and Stencils" exhibition in London, 2010. Framed from purchase and in perfect condition. Exhibit - (signed edition of 100) bought from the same exhibition, framed from purchase but has a tiny wrinkle/mark just by the edition number so I can't say its perfect condition. I saw further up this thread, price estimate is around £1.5K - anyone care to differ? Le Char (aka Tank Girl) (signed edition of 99, low number) - Purchased in 2011 from a forum member, framed and in perfect condition. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by goingdownthedran on Jan 2, 2018 15:44:25 GMT 1, I've had quite a bit of interest in the Dran works via PM, but no-one wants to venture their opinions about prices (at least not publically).... tricky.
I've had quite a bit of interest in the Dran works via PM, but no-one wants to venture their opinions about prices (at least not publically).... tricky.
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by niceguyg on Jan 2, 2018 16:45:45 GMT 1, I've had quite a bit of interest in the Dran works via PM, but no-one wants to venture their opinions about prices (at least not publically).... tricky.
Nice pieces for sale.
Canvases of this size and medium from this show were originally sold for between £2750-3750 if my memory serves me correctly. There were smaller and larger canvases sold at the show at different price points.
The highest I’ve seen these go for privately is £8,000, for a slightly smaller one.
A similar medium but larger one NOT from the show sold recently at a Paris auction for around €17.5 k...
I know of other canvases from this show of less wall friendly images struggle to sell for £5k.
Most Dran collectors would acknowledge this to be a good example which is instantly recognisable as by Dran. It should command a price closer to the top end of the range I have described.
The Exhibit is £1500 +\- £250
Le Char is £600 +\- £100
However, ultimately the price will depend on how much you need the money vs how much demand there is for the piece.
This time of year traditionally has fewer people buying art, so demand is less and chances of a successful sale lower.
I've had quite a bit of interest in the Dran works via PM, but no-one wants to venture their opinions about prices (at least not publically).... tricky. Nice pieces for sale. Canvases of this size and medium from this show were originally sold for between £2750-3750 if my memory serves me correctly. There were smaller and larger canvases sold at the show at different price points. The highest I’ve seen these go for privately is £8,000, for a slightly smaller one. A similar medium but larger one NOT from the show sold recently at a Paris auction for around €17.5 k... I know of other canvases from this show of less wall friendly images struggle to sell for £5k. Most Dran collectors would acknowledge this to be a good example which is instantly recognisable as by Dran. It should command a price closer to the top end of the range I have described. The Exhibit is £1500 +\- £250 Le Char is £600 +\- £100 However, ultimately the price will depend on how much you need the money vs how much demand there is for the piece. This time of year traditionally has fewer people buying art, so demand is less and chances of a successful sale lower. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by goingdownthedran on Jan 2, 2018 16:54:11 GMT 1, Thanks niceguyg - your prices tally with what I've managed to discover privately.
I am probably going to hold off selling anything for a month or two as the need for the cash isn't urgent. That said, judging by the large number of PMs I received, there is strong interest.
The only price that seems off to me is for Le Char. Looking at recent prices for his work on fleabay and www.blancs-manteaux-auction.com/fiche-dun-lot_17.php?sid=134&oid=16009 I'd say around £900 - £1000 is more on the money?
Thanks niceguyg - your prices tally with what I've managed to discover privately. I am probably going to hold off selling anything for a month or two as the need for the cash isn't urgent. That said, judging by the large number of PMs I received, there is strong interest. The only price that seems off to me is for Le Char. Looking at recent prices for his work on fleabay and www.blancs-manteaux-auction.com/fiche-dun-lot_17.php?sid=134&oid=16009 I'd say around £900 - £1000 is more on the money? |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by niceguyg on Jan 2, 2018 17:11:04 GMT 1, Thanks niceguyg - your prices tally with what I've managed to discover privately. I am probably going to hold off selling anything for a month or two as the need for the cash isn't urgent. That said, judging by the large number of PMs I received, there is strong interest. The only price that seems off to me is for Le Char. Looking at recent prices for his work on fleabay and www.blancs-manteaux-auction.com/fiche-dun-lot_17.php?sid=134&oid=16009 I'd say around £900 - £1000 is more on the money?
I don’t believe Le Char sold at that auction...and the estimate provided for that auction is in Euros, not Sterling.
Le Char is not a screen print and does not have any hand finishing - thus my appraisal at around £600. I’d be interested to hear of completed sales above this price point.
Thanks niceguyg - your prices tally with what I've managed to discover privately. I am probably going to hold off selling anything for a month or two as the need for the cash isn't urgent. That said, judging by the large number of PMs I received, there is strong interest. The only price that seems off to me is for Le Char. Looking at recent prices for his work on fleabay and www.blancs-manteaux-auction.com/fiche-dun-lot_17.php?sid=134&oid=16009 I'd say around £900 - £1000 is more on the money? I don’t believe Le Char sold at that auction...and the estimate provided for that auction is in Euros, not Sterling. Le Char is not a screen print and does not have any hand finishing - thus my appraisal at around £600. I’d be interested to hear of completed sales above this price point. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by goingdownthedran on Jan 2, 2018 17:12:15 GMT 1, Fair dos! I am probably going to hang onto it.
Fair dos! I am probably going to hang onto it.
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by matgab on Jan 2, 2018 18:43:58 GMT 1, Beautiful canvas Goingdownthedran !
Funny one, as I like about Dran works.
(there is the beauty Exhibit .  .. )
Beautiful canvas Goingdownthedran ! Funny one, as I like about Dran works. (there is the beauty Exhibit . .. ) |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 21:24:50 GMT 1, Could I get a price for a Dran - heavily hand finished "chicken dinosaur' please
One sold on eBay 2 weeks ago for £750. Was on there for a good few weeks too.
Could I get a price for a Dran - heavily hand finished "chicken dinosaur' please One sold on eBay 2 weeks ago for £750. Was on there for a good few weeks too. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by sircoxson on Feb 15, 2018 12:24:32 GMT 1, I am testing waters with my "Tiens" ceiling print from the Brussels show. The ceiling print is outside of the main edition, signed and not numbered. The print is framed to archieval standards with UV glass at the moment.
Any ideas on valuation from fellow Dran collectors?
http://instagr.am/p/BODEKIxhcn3
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by VinceParis on Feb 15, 2018 15:15:01 GMT 1,
Hello there,
Best guess would be around 1K GBP. very few have sold so hard to have a good grip on demand but i would price mine in this range.
Hello there, Best guess would be around 1K GBP. very few have sold so hard to have a good grip on demand but i would price mine in this range. |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by sircoxson on Feb 16, 2018 10:25:09 GMT 1, morning,
thanks for your guesstimate. I'd think that prices for the TIENS print vary quite a bit depending on hf variations.
I am biased but I guess the ceiling print would be more than 1k GBP. it's the only one from the edition that's feet finished ;-)
Hello there, Best guess would be around 1K GBP. very few have sold so hard to have a good grip on demand but i would price mine in this range. I am testing waters with my "Tiens" ceiling print from the Brussels show. The ceiling print is outside of the main edition, signed and not numbered. The print is framed to archieval standards with UV glass at the moment. Any ideas on valuation from fellow Dran collectors?
morning, thanks for your guesstimate. I'd think that prices for the TIENS print vary quite a bit depending on hf variations. I am biased but I guess the ceiling print would be more than 1k GBP. it's the only one from the edition that's feet finished ;-) Hello there, Best guess would be around 1K GBP. very few have sold so hard to have a good grip on demand but i would price mine in this range. I am testing waters with my "Tiens" ceiling print from the Brussels show. The ceiling print is outside of the main edition, signed and not numbered. The print is framed to archieval standards with UV glass at the moment. Any ideas on valuation from fellow Dran collectors? |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by mehor on Feb 16, 2018 10:57:55 GMT 1, I would say it depends if this was an adidas or nike shoe? if there is still some poop left?
I would say it depends if this was an adidas or nike shoe? if there is still some poop left?
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by sircoxson on Feb 16, 2018 11:49:18 GMT 1, I would say it depends if this was an adidas or nike shoe? if there is still some poop left?
sure.
nike yeezy > adidas yeezy > jordan v > stan smith > puma etc
I would say it depends if this was an adidas or nike shoe? if there is still some poop left? sure. nike yeezy > adidas yeezy > jordan v > stan smith > puma etc |
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DRAN Artwork, VALUATION, by racket on Feb 17, 2018 11:37:15 GMT 1, Hard to value. Good number of these sold privately and publicly since the show, and prices/demand dropped for them, some not massively over cost, for the ones less desired. Yours in unique being outside the edition, depends if someone wants one with color or his other imagery or not.
Hard to value. Good number of these sold privately and publicly since the show, and prices/demand dropped for them, some not massively over cost, for the ones less desired. Yours in unique being outside the edition, depends if someone wants one with color or his other imagery or not.
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