Martha Cooper 🇺🇸 Subway Art Book • New York Graffiti

[Black Apple Art]

Really like Martha's work and her IG feed but can't find the attraction to a picture of a Banksy street piece no matter who snapped the shutter. Just my opinion of course. Does zero for me.

BTW there are plenty available. Go to www.streetartplace.com then click the add to cart.

[poppa]

Mar 25, 2015 20:55:41 GMT 1 Black Apple Art said:

BTW there are plenty available. Go to www.streetartplace.com then click the add to cart.

Plenty? I only see one :/

[randomname]

Personally, I don't think the photography adds any creativity to the piece. It just feels like a shameless money grab to me. I can see buying a print of one of her early photographs when few people treated graffiti as legitimate art. But this feels like she's trying to cash in on someone else's work and popularity.

[lucky7]

They only ship to whichver country they are at?

[Deleted]

Mar 25, 2015 21:18:18 GMT 1 randomname said:

Personally, I don't think the photography adds any creativity to the piece. It just feels like a shameless money grab to me. I can see buying a print of one of her early photographs when few people treated graffiti as legitimate art. But this feels like she's trying to cash in on someone else's work and popularity.

At 125 it was an overpriced photograph by a legendary photographer. At 250, it enters cash grab status.     In one image and it's subsequent release scheme, she has encapsulated everything that is wrong with the "street art" world today.

[meh.]

I have last one in basket and they won't ship to the UK. What to do. ugh!

[Black Apple Art]

Mar 25, 2015 21:18:18 GMT 1 randomname said:

Personally, I don't think the photography adds any creativity to the piece. It just feels like a shameless money grab to me. I can see buying a print of one of her early photographs when few people treated graffiti as legitimate art. But this feels like she's trying to cash in on someone else's work and popularity.

You must have taken thousands of photos during your life. Has there ever been a photo you never managed to get?

MC: Banksy at work

So instead she snaps a pic of his wall piece, signs them and sells as her own work? I'm truly bathled at the attraction to this photo unless one is such a Martha fan they just like singed Martha works regardless of the image. If a member did this they'd be ripped to shreds.

[Dibbs 45]

Mar 25, 2015 21:20:53 GMT 1 lucky7 said:

They only ship to whichver country they are at?

No they ship to other countries. Most countries in fact.

[meh.]

ok letting it go now.. number 3, low edition no...

[ferg]

Choose regno u..... It's Italian for the UK

[meh.]

Mar 25, 2015 21:33:28 GMT 1 ferg said:

Choose regno u..... It's Italian for the UK

yeah I did. Had to google it, says no carriers here apparently. 
Ah well.

[lucky7]

Mar 25, 2015 21:29:29 GMT 1 Black Apple Art said:

Mar 25, 2015 21:18:18 GMT 1 randomname said:

Personally, I don't think the photography adds any creativity to the piece. It just feels like a shameless money grab to me. I can see buying a print of one of her early photographs when few people treated graffiti as legitimate art. But this feels like she's trying to cash in on someone else's work and popularity.

You must have taken thousands of photos during your life. Has there ever been a photo you never managed to get?

MC: Banksy at work

So instead she snaps a pic of his wall piece, signs them and sells as her own work? I'm truly bathled at the attraction to this photo unless one is such a Martha fan they just like singed Martha works regardless of the image. If a member did this they'd be ripped to shreds.

Not to mention those idiots who  make a painting of a landscape and then call it art.  If I wanted to see a mountain or a weird lady posing in front of a mountain with a beguiling smile, I would go to said mountain, sit a lady in fron of it and stare. Da vinci, you cash grabber.

[Dibbs 45]

Mar 25, 2015 21:28:13 GMT 1 meh. said:

I have last one in basket and they won't ship to the UK. What to do. ugh!

Regno Unito is the Uk

[meh.]

really wierd actually, tried with another print and it works. Just this one where there are no carrier options.
it's a sign! Happy to pass

[Dungle]

Mar 25, 2015 21:29:29 GMT 1 Black Apple Art said:

Mar 25, 2015 21:18:18 GMT 1 randomname said:

Personally, I don't think the photography adds any creativity to the piece. It just feels like a shameless money grab to me. I can see buying a print of one of her early photographs when few people treated graffiti as legitimate art. But this feels like she's trying to cash in on someone else's work and popularity.

You must have taken thousands of photos during your life. Has there ever been a photo you never managed to get?

MC: Banksy at work

So instead she snaps a pic of his wall piece, signs them and sells as her own work? I'm truly bathled at the attraction to this photo unless one is such a Martha fan they just like singed Martha works regardless of the image. If a member did this they'd be ripped to shreds.

Its a really cheap way to have a photo by a legend of the 'scene'. The image is of one of the best 'shows' ever put together and as I couldn't see it in the flesh, this is a bit of a no brainer for me.

Its not The greatest piece ever but for 120 euros, I can't see the downside.

[Deleted]

I agree, if a member did this, we'd have ripped them to shreds.

Which reminds me, who is bidding on the Glitter Gorillas? (guilty)

[lucky7]

Mar 25, 2015 21:30:32 GMT 1 Dibbs 45 said:

Mar 25, 2015 21:20:53 GMT 1 lucky7 said:

They only ship to whichver country they are at?

No they ship to other countries. Most countries in fact.

It must be a glitch or a problem with the inventory.  I tried to get one but could not.
Always told me there was no carrier option.  I guess I was late.

[Black Apple Art]

Mar 25, 2015 21:39:42 GMT 1 @shadynasty said:

I agree, if a member did this, we'd have ripped them to shreds.

Which reminds me, who is bidding on the Glitter Gorillas? (guilty)

If Martha's funds went to charity I woukd have never commented... Well maybe once Might have even bought one depending on the charity. Changes the dynamic entirely

[Petrusino]

Mar 25, 2015 21:29:29 GMT 1 Black Apple Art said:

Mar 25, 2015 21:18:18 GMT 1 randomname said:

Personally, I don't think the photography adds any creativity to the piece. It just feels like a shameless money grab to me. I can see buying a print of one of her early photographs when few people treated graffiti as legitimate art. But this feels like she's trying to cash in on someone else's work and popularity.

You must have taken thousands of photos during your life. Has there ever been a photo you never managed to get?

MC: Banksy at work

So instead she snaps a pic of his wall piece, signs them and sells as her own work? I'm truly bathled at the attraction to this photo unless one is such a Martha fan they just like singed Martha works regardless of the image. If a member did this they'd be ripped to shreds.

Maybe it is not clear that the show is "The history of street art from the 70s to today through the shots of the legendary American photographer Martha Cooper." I think the Ghetto 4 Life picture has been chosen by the gallery as a symbol of "modern Street Art". please stop saying bullshit. I would never buy a photo of a Banksy street piece taken by mr nobody; Martha is over 70 years old and lived the street art from day one, in the street, not in the gallery. please stop talking shit about an institution like Martha Cooper on a street art forum, is really embarrassing. She is not Mrs nobody. 

[WOOF]

Mar 25, 2015 21:39:42 GMT 1 @shadynasty said:

I agree, if a member did this, we'd have ripped them to shreds.

Which reminds me, who is bidding on the Glitter Gorillas? (guilty)

Martha has been documenting the street art world for a long ass time. She's as much a part of it as any of the OG's...

[meh.]

I just looked on the 'private sales' tab and the 250euro prints are there. Is this blatent flipping on the same site?

[Deleted]

Mar 25, 2015 21:52:55 GMT 1 WOOF said:

Mar 25, 2015 21:39:42 GMT 1 @shadynasty said:

I agree, if a member did this, we'd have ripped them to shreds.

Which reminds me, who is bidding on the Glitter Gorillas? (guilty)

Martha has been documenting the street art world for a long ass time. She's as much a part of it as any of the OG's...

I'm aware of her work. I'm being cynical. I'm aware of that too.

I still stand by my words. At 125, it was a pricey photo by legendary photographer. At the 250 pricing scheme, it was a depressing cash grab made by standing on the shoulders of another artist's work.

Does Banksy need to approve this too? (Like the Glitter Gorilla people were so upset over?) Or is it OK for Martha to take a Banksy image and profit from it, because of who she is/was?

[Dr Plip]

Martha Cooper has fans and I'm sure they would buy signed prints of many of her street art photographs. This would be considered a bonus that it features a Banksy image. Street art photography is what she's best known for and I don't think it's realistic to expect Banksy's work to be off limits.

I don't know if members on here would get slated if they tried to sell signed photographs of street art. They probably just wouldn't sell? But Martha Cooper isn't just a member on here.

I can't comment on whether the price was high (it has sold out), but if Martha Cooper is to be criticized for cashing in on street art, then there are also a lot of book publishers, magazines, and websites out there that deserve the same critical attention.

I guess as with most things in this shallow world we inhabit, vote with your wallet.

[curiousgeorge]

Going out on a limb here…No Martha, then no forum

[Dr Plip]

Mar 25, 2015 22:07:52 GMT 1 curiousgeorge said:

Going out on a limb here…No Martha, then no forum

[overend]

Probably the best Banksy related release in some time.

[Jeezuz Jones Snr]

Would banksy have to give permission for mrs doubt fire to use his image and sell it? She is a legend though, 125 euros is okay price i suppose. Cheeky they doubled the price though.. These will be on eBay for 750euros very soon..

[randomname]

I think the art should stand on its own merit. I don't think an artist's history makes a given piece of work any better or worse than it inherently is. Dee Dee Ramone was a legend. Doesn't make this any less of a turd.

[aberdoom]

Easy pass for me...

[Deleted]

Like I said twice before, the pricing scheme is disgusting. Not dismissing her career, though I am not exactly giving her credit for establishing the "street art" scene. Prefer Gibbs work personally.

Still, I'd like to see someone defend the pricing scheme.

I'd also like one of our resident experts to tell me why it is OK for someone who is "established" to profit from capturing (photo print or silkscreen print) another artists work and reproducing it under their name. While an "un-established" artist cannot.