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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by Jonny Wednesday on Feb 6, 2008 13:03:10 GMT 1, Hi folks,
I'm after some advise regarding buying a Banksy print.
someone is selling an u/s print - they don't have any prov or receipt, saying that it was bought through ebay from art republics shop.
I'm new to the world of Banksy prints and I'm looking to buy a couple. From being on this site for a few weeks, its clear that full prov is the most ideal situation.
Are there any checks I can make to ensure the print is genuine - I would hate to shell out a grand or so on my first print only to find out in years to come it was a dude. any other advise would be appreciated.
and by the way - I am actually after "rude copper", so if in the unlikely event someone has one for sale, I maybe interested.
Ta
Hi folks,
I'm after some advise regarding buying a Banksy print.
someone is selling an u/s print - they don't have any prov or receipt, saying that it was bought through ebay from art republics shop.
I'm new to the world of Banksy prints and I'm looking to buy a couple. From being on this site for a few weeks, its clear that full prov is the most ideal situation.
Are there any checks I can make to ensure the print is genuine - I would hate to shell out a grand or so on my first print only to find out in years to come it was a dude. any other advise would be appreciated.
and by the way - I am actually after "rude copper", so if in the unlikely event someone has one for sale, I maybe interested.
Ta
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by carlito on Feb 6, 2008 13:10:55 GMT 1, get the seller to email PoW and confirm the details of the print number they have, then get him to forward this to you
get the seller to email PoW and confirm the details of the print number they have, then get him to forward this to you
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Zippy
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by Zippy on Feb 6, 2008 13:29:10 GMT 1, or get Carlito to do it for you.
or get Carlito to do it for you.
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by BONGO on Feb 6, 2008 13:44:33 GMT 1, BONGO THINKS IN AN IDEAL WORLD, FULL UNBLEMISHED PROV IS THE BEST OPTION
BONGO SADLY KNOWS ALL TOO WELL THAT WHEN BUYING PRINTS IN THE DARK MISTS OF TIME, NEARLY 4 YEARS AGO, A FULL PAPER TRAIL FOR A £50 PRINT DID NOT SEEM TOO IMPORTANT - THE IMAGE ITSELF TOOK PRIORITY, THE AESTHETIC OVER THE MONETARY.
BONGO DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN TURGID CIRCULAR CONVERSATION ABOUT FAKES AND THE UNFORTUNATELY NAMED BACKDOOR PRINTS
BONGO KNOWS THERE ARE SOME UNUMBERED PRINTS AROUND, BUT BONGO KNOWS THAT THESE ARE RESTRICTED TO A HANDFUL OF IMAGES ONLY, SO MAYBE AVOIDING ANY OF THESE IMAGES WITHOUT FULL PROV IS LOGICAL. BONGO DOES NOT YET WORRY ABOUT FAKES UNTIL NOW, DESPITE MURMURINGS OF A FAKE RAT SOME TIMES AGO
BONGO APPRECIATE THAT THE ART WORLD DOES NOT SIT STILL AND WITH THE RECENT PRICES AT BONHAMS, THEN THE WORK INVOLVED IN PRODUCING AN ACCEPTABLE FAKE DOES BEGIN TO JUSTIFY THE POTENTIAL REWARDS.
BONGO THINKS IN AN IDEAL WORLD, FULL UNBLEMISHED PROV IS THE BEST OPTION
BONGO SADLY KNOWS ALL TOO WELL THAT WHEN BUYING PRINTS IN THE DARK MISTS OF TIME, NEARLY 4 YEARS AGO, A FULL PAPER TRAIL FOR A £50 PRINT DID NOT SEEM TOO IMPORTANT - THE IMAGE ITSELF TOOK PRIORITY, THE AESTHETIC OVER THE MONETARY.
BONGO DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN TURGID CIRCULAR CONVERSATION ABOUT FAKES AND THE UNFORTUNATELY NAMED BACKDOOR PRINTS
BONGO KNOWS THERE ARE SOME UNUMBERED PRINTS AROUND, BUT BONGO KNOWS THAT THESE ARE RESTRICTED TO A HANDFUL OF IMAGES ONLY, SO MAYBE AVOIDING ANY OF THESE IMAGES WITHOUT FULL PROV IS LOGICAL. BONGO DOES NOT YET WORRY ABOUT FAKES UNTIL NOW, DESPITE MURMURINGS OF A FAKE RAT SOME TIMES AGO
BONGO APPRECIATE THAT THE ART WORLD DOES NOT SIT STILL AND WITH THE RECENT PRICES AT BONHAMS, THEN THE WORK INVOLVED IN PRODUCING AN ACCEPTABLE FAKE DOES BEGIN TO JUSTIFY THE POTENTIAL REWARDS.
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by foundation on Feb 6, 2008 13:53:17 GMT 1, BONGO THINKS IN AN IDEAL WORLD, FULL UNBLEMISHED PROV IS THE BEST OPTION BONGO SADLY KNOWS ALL TOO WELL THAT WHEN BUYING PRINTS IN THE DARK MISTS OF TIME, NEARLY 4 YEARS AGO, A FULL PAPER TRAIL FOR A £50 PRINT DID NOT SEEM TOO IMPORTANT - THE IMAGE ITSELF TOOK PRIORITY, THE AESTHETIC OVER THE MONETARY. BONGO DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN TURGID CIRCULAR CONVERSATION ABOUT FAKES AND THE UNFORTUNATELY NAMED BACKDOOR PRINTS BONGO KNOWS THERE ARE SOME UNUMBERED PRINTS AROUND, BUT BONGO KNOWS THAT THESE ARE RESTRICTED TO A HANDFUL OF IMAGES ONLY, SO MAYBE AVOIDING ANY OF THESE IMAGES WITHOUT FULL PROV IS LOGICAL. BONGO DOES NOT YET WORRY ABOUT FAKES UNTIL NOW, DESPITE MURMURINGS OF A FAKE RAT SOME TIMES AGO BONGO APPRECIATE THAT THE ART WORLD DOES NOT SIT STILL AND WITH THE RECENT PRICES AT BONHAMS, THEN THE WORK INVOLVED IN PRODUCING AN ACCEPTABLE FAKE DOES BEGIN TO JUSTIFY THE POTENTIAL REWARDS.
BONGO THINKS IN AN IDEAL WORLD, FULL UNBLEMISHED PROV IS THE BEST OPTION BONGO SADLY KNOWS ALL TOO WELL THAT WHEN BUYING PRINTS IN THE DARK MISTS OF TIME, NEARLY 4 YEARS AGO, A FULL PAPER TRAIL FOR A £50 PRINT DID NOT SEEM TOO IMPORTANT - THE IMAGE ITSELF TOOK PRIORITY, THE AESTHETIC OVER THE MONETARY. BONGO DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN TURGID CIRCULAR CONVERSATION ABOUT FAKES AND THE UNFORTUNATELY NAMED BACKDOOR PRINTS BONGO KNOWS THERE ARE SOME UNUMBERED PRINTS AROUND, BUT BONGO KNOWS THAT THESE ARE RESTRICTED TO A HANDFUL OF IMAGES ONLY, SO MAYBE AVOIDING ANY OF THESE IMAGES WITHOUT FULL PROV IS LOGICAL. BONGO DOES NOT YET WORRY ABOUT FAKES UNTIL NOW, DESPITE MURMURINGS OF A FAKE RAT SOME TIMES AGO BONGO APPRECIATE THAT THE ART WORLD DOES NOT SIT STILL AND WITH THE RECENT PRICES AT BONHAMS, THEN THE WORK INVOLVED IN PRODUCING AN ACCEPTABLE FAKE DOES BEGIN TO JUSTIFY THE POTENTIAL REWARDS. Bongo got any feelings on the faked laugh nows last week? |
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by nickc on Feb 6, 2008 13:57:32 GMT 1, If it was bought from Art Republic then it should be listed on their system. I know when I spoke to Dora about the two prints I bought from POW she did confirm that they were registered to AR and I know that AR have my name on file and I still have the invoice from them. I would ask for the person you are buying off to show them their Ebay history for starters and their paypal account should also show that they bought it from where they say they have.
If it was bought from Art Republic then it should be listed on their system. I know when I spoke to Dora about the two prints I bought from POW she did confirm that they were registered to AR and I know that AR have my name on file and I still have the invoice from them. I would ask for the person you are buying off to show them their Ebay history for starters and their paypal account should also show that they bought it from where they say they have.
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by BONGO on Feb 6, 2008 14:09:45 GMT 1, BONGO NOT SURPRISED ABOUT LN POSSIBLE FAKING, BUT BONGO HAS NOT SEEN IT, RATHER READ ABOUT IT, SO IS INTERESTED AS TO WHETHER THIS WAS A FORMAL ATTEMPT TO DEFRAUD OR A RASCAL TRYING HIS LUCK WITH A POOR QUALITY COPY
LN HAVE BECOME VERY SOUGHT AFTER IN LAST YEAR BONGO KNOWS AND PRICED ACCORDINGLY EVEN THOUGH IT IS LARGE RUN
AS BONGO MENTIONED, UNTIL NOW, FAKES NOT REALLY A CONCERN, BUT IF NEW PRICES ARE TO BE BELIEVED, THEN ORGANISED FAKING COULD BECOME WORRY
BONGO NOT SURPRISED ABOUT LN POSSIBLE FAKING, BUT BONGO HAS NOT SEEN IT, RATHER READ ABOUT IT, SO IS INTERESTED AS TO WHETHER THIS WAS A FORMAL ATTEMPT TO DEFRAUD OR A RASCAL TRYING HIS LUCK WITH A POOR QUALITY COPY
LN HAVE BECOME VERY SOUGHT AFTER IN LAST YEAR BONGO KNOWS AND PRICED ACCORDINGLY EVEN THOUGH IT IS LARGE RUN
AS BONGO MENTIONED, UNTIL NOW, FAKES NOT REALLY A CONCERN, BUT IF NEW PRICES ARE TO BE BELIEVED, THEN ORGANISED FAKING COULD BECOME WORRY
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by icky on Feb 6, 2008 14:24:29 GMT 1, About a year ago I argued in the fake Love Rat thread that it was the first "real" fake Banksy print ever. And this was, to my knowledge, true until the warning from POW last week. Now there are several prints faked, old and new, and with receipts, blindstamps, numbering and signatures. POW knows and are hopefully investigating. If I was about to buy a print from Ebay now, I'd demand hi-res pix of the print quality, stamp, numbers and sig.
Edit: added "receips"
About a year ago I argued in the fake Love Rat thread that it was the first "real" fake Banksy print ever. And this was, to my knowledge, true until the warning from POW last week. Now there are several prints faked, old and new, and with receipts, blindstamps, numbering and signatures. POW knows and are hopefully investigating. If I was about to buy a print from Ebay now, I'd demand hi-res pix of the print quality, stamp, numbers and sig.
Edit: added "receips"
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by Jonny Wednesday on Feb 6, 2008 15:20:17 GMT 1, Thanks for the info ladies & gents - said seller has now emailed dora.
BTW what is the going price for a Laugh Now signed / unsigned?
Thanks for the info ladies & gents - said seller has now emailed dora.
BTW what is the going price for a Laugh Now signed / unsigned?
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by jonpud on Feb 6, 2008 17:14:25 GMT 1, About a year ago I argued in the fake Love Rat thread that it was the first "real" fake Banksy print ever. And this was, to my knowledge, true until the warning from POW last week. Now there are several prints faked, old and new, and with receipts, blindstamps, numbering and signatures. POW knows and are hopefully investigating. If I was about to buy a print from Ebay now, I'd demand hi-res pix of the print quality, stamp, numbers and sig. Edit: added "receips"
What warning from POW? Have I missed something? 
About a year ago I argued in the fake Love Rat thread that it was the first "real" fake Banksy print ever. And this was, to my knowledge, true until the warning from POW last week. Now there are several prints faked, old and new, and with receipts, blindstamps, numbering and signatures. POW knows and are hopefully investigating. If I was about to buy a print from Ebay now, I'd demand hi-res pix of the print quality, stamp, numbers and sig. Edit: added "receips"What warning from POW? Have I missed something? |
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by italiano on Feb 6, 2008 17:17:57 GMT 1, Is the warning on their website
Is the warning on their website
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Some advise on buying Banksy print, by icky on Feb 7, 2008 8:51:41 GMT 1, I think it's been posted here before:
From Wall Kandy by Wall Kandy:
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WARNING
POW called me today to let me know that they have recently been presented with more than one fake Laugh Now print.
The prints are on substandard paper that is far thinner than the proper paper. Some prints had a replica POW blind stamp. All buyers had been given a photocopy of the same tomtom receipt made out to the same person.
If you have recently purchased a Laugh Now that came with a photocopy of a tomtom receipt please pm me for further instructions.
Always exercise extreme caution and ensure you make all the appropriate checks before parting with your cash.
Can someone please copy this over to the Banksy.info as well as I'm not a member there.
I think it's been posted here before:
From Wall Kandy by Wall Kandy:
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WARNING
POW called me today to let me know that they have recently been presented with more than one fake Laugh Now print.
The prints are on substandard paper that is far thinner than the proper paper. Some prints had a replica POW blind stamp. All buyers had been given a photocopy of the same tomtom receipt made out to the same person.
If you have recently purchased a Laugh Now that came with a photocopy of a tomtom receipt please pm me for further instructions.
Always exercise extreme caution and ensure you make all the appropriate checks before parting with your cash.
Can someone please copy this over to the Banksy.info as well as I'm not a member there.
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