[d9]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bambi-Street-Artist-Three-Wise-Puppies-Ed-6-of-25-Female-Bansky-/233811264184?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

[irl1]

Dec 9, 2020 13:49:11 GMT 1 .dappy said:

... gosh ...

This is gosh!

Bambi in Christies Auctions 


onlineonly.christies.com/s/first-open-post-war-contemporary-art-online/bambi-b-1982-134/123922

[Poster Bob]

I am also surprised to see that they they're auctioning off a Mr. Brainwash canvas.

[Hairbland]

It’s cool though that she is making a play on the Coke logo - I’ve never seen an artist do that before.

[Lroy]

Jun 21, 2021 11:44:32 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

It’s cool though that she is making a play on the Coke logo - I’ve never seen an artist do that before.

I know who is Bambi in fact, I forgot, a great mate, he, not she.

Well, my memory...

Apologies

[Lazarus II]

This might undo all the damage that Ronaldo inflicted on the share price but then again...

[Hairbland]

Jun 21, 2021 11:51:32 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Jun 21, 2021 11:44:32 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

It’s cool though that she is making a play on the Coke logo - I’ve never seen an artist do that before.

I know who is Bambi in fact, I forgot, a great mate, he, not she.

Well, my memory...

Apologies

he, she…doesn’t matter.

[met]

Dec 9, 2020 18:13:12 GMT 1 kapusta said:

This is so bad I can't believe people were predicting she'd be the next Banksy...

Just spotted this thread and decided to indulge in a session of rubbernecking.

__________


Your post caught my eye because I've never witnessed an informed person who genuinely predicted Bambi would be the next Banksy.

If you have a specific example in mind, I'd be interested to check it out, if only to see who made such a claim.


The closest thing I'm aware of was Bambi's representatives cynically resorting to marketing puffery — by always referring to her as "the female Banksy".

That catchy tagline was then often parroted by lazy, ignorant and/or dishonest journalists, online content creators, and resellers of Bambi artwork. In other words, by nobody whose assessment of the artist was ever worth taking seriously.

[BANK OF ENGLAND 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿]

Dec 9, 2020 13:26:57 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Who is Bambi ?

and why ?

Any connection with Miss Banksy ?

here is prints coming ...

Well the punt is hasardous, I think... a bit weak no ?

streetartistbambi.com/

Juste found this on a thread of a great firend on FCBK ...

Covid 19 is about as real as Coca-Colas corporate mascot aka "Father Christmas" 

[FЯ]

Surprised Paloma still has the time

[WOOF]

Jun 21, 2021 15:23:55 GMT 1 BANK OF ENGLAND 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 said:

Dec 9, 2020 13:26:57 GMT 1 Lroy said:

Who is Bambi ?

and why ?

Any connection with Miss Banksy ?

here is prints coming ...

Well the punt is hasardous, I think... a bit weak no ?

streetartistbambi.com/

Juste found this on a thread of a great firend on FCBK ...

Covid 19 is about as real as Coca-Colas corporate mascot aka "Father Christmas" 

Don’t be a dumb dumb…

[Chris JL]

Jun 21, 2021 14:13:12 GMT 1 met said:

Dec 9, 2020 18:13:12 GMT 1 kapusta said:

This is so bad I can't believe people were predicting she'd be the next Banksy...

Just spotted this thread and decided to indulge in a session of rubbernecking.

__________


Your post caught my eye because I've never witnessed an informed person who genuinely predicted Bambi would be the next Banksy.

If you have a specific example in mind, I'd be interested to check it out, if only to see who made such a claim.


The closest thing I'm aware of was Bambi's representatives cynically resorting to marketing puffery — by always referring to her as "the female Banksy".

That catchy tagline was then often parroted by lazy, ignorant and/or dishonest journalists, online content creators, and resellers of Bambi artwork. In other words, by nobody whose assessment of the artist was ever worth taking seriously.

She was unfortunately (for her own good) introduced with that moniker (the female Banksy) in a BBC service, and then that was repeated by the press (to her own detriment).
I believe that that “title” did not help her much…

[LJCal]

Jun 21, 2021 16:33:02 GMT 1 WOOF said:

Jun 21, 2021 15:23:55 GMT 1 BANK OF ENGLAND 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 said:

Covid 19 is about as real as Coca-Colas corporate mascot aka "Father Christmas" 

Don’t be a dumb dumb…

Covid may be real but it doesn't merit the reaction, mass hysteria on a global scale. I think this statistic sums up why we've fucked the world for future generations for nothing because we are a bunch of pussies who can't except our own mortality.

[Lroy]

Jun 21, 2021 11:54:46 GMT 1 Hairbland said:

Jun 21, 2021 11:51:32 GMT 1 Lroy said:

I know who is Bambi in fact, I forgot, a great mate, he, not she.

Well, my memory...

Apologies

he, she…doesn’t matter.

Sorry all, I made a big mistake with a mate, awesome stenciler, from Balkan Kru, whose name was ( is still ? ) Bambsy...

As I don't know if Robin - another one, not the G one  - , would be agree, I won't share his artworks.

Anyway excellent from the East side

Yes Bambi, forget it

[Chris JL]

Jun 21, 2021 22:36:48 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Jun 21, 2021 16:33:02 GMT 1 WOOF said:

Don’t be a dumb dumb…

Covid may be real but it doesn't merit the reaction, mass hysteria on a global scale. I think this statistic sums up why we've fucked the world for future generations for nothing because we are a bunch of pussies who can't except our own mortality.

This is so moronic I don’t know where to star (does long COVID tells you anything idiot, but I guess it doesn’t since even means and medians largely escape you). My step mother died at 65 you mental midget, together with another 4 million people and counting. Buzz off please and go face your mortality elsewhere: as an exercise in applied Darwinism, and to improve the IQ of the species, please do stop seeking medical treatment for anything that might happen to you - thank you.

Daniel Silk is it ok to have this stuff on here?

[E9Boy]

Jun 21, 2021 17:49:00 GMT 1 Chris JL said:

Jun 21, 2021 14:13:12 GMT 1 met said:

Just spotted this thread and decided to indulge in a session of rubbernecking.

__________


Your post caught my eye because I've never witnessed an informed person who genuinely predicted Bambi would be the next Banksy.

If you have a specific example in mind, I'd be interested to check it out, if only to see who made such a claim.


The closest thing I'm aware of was Bambi's representatives cynically resorting to marketing puffery — by always referring to her as "the female Banksy".

That catchy tagline was then often parroted by lazy, ignorant and/or dishonest journalists, online content creators, and resellers of Bambi artwork. In other words, by nobody whose assessment of the artist was ever worth taking seriously.

She was unfortunately (for her own good) introduced with that moniker (the female Banksy) in a BBC service, and then that was repeated by the press (to her own detriment).
I believe that that “title” did not help her much…

I met her once, she was genuinely nice and very sweet to my 8 year old daughter. My daughter still has the corgi Bambi made in front of her, framed & on her bedroom wall.
I’m not saying it’s my favourite piece in our house, but it probably holds the fondest memories & my daughter wasn’t freaked out by being spoken to by a Disney character..

[LJCal]

Jun 22, 2021 7:07:19 GMT 1 Chris JL said:

Jun 21, 2021 22:36:48 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Covid may be real but it doesn't merit the reaction, mass hysteria on a global scale. I think this statistic sums up why we've fucked the world for future generations for nothing because we are a bunch of pussies who can't except our own mortality.

This is so moronic I don’t know where to star (does long COVID tells you anything idiot, but I guess it doesn’t since even means and medians largely escape you). My step mother died at 65 you mental midget, together with another 4 million people and counting. Buzz off please and go face your mortality elsewhere: as an exercise in applied Darwinism, and to improve the IQ of the species, please do stop seeking medical treatment for anything that might happen to you - thank you.

Daniel Silk is it ok to have this stuff on here?

Hysterical much? And you want to censor me why? Because I have different view on something from you and you’re overly sensitive? Grow up.

[Chris JL]

Jun 22, 2021 8:18:07 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Jun 22, 2021 7:07:19 GMT 1 Chris JL said:

This is so moronic I don’t know where to star (does long COVID tells you anything idiot, but I guess it doesn’t since even means and medians largely escape you). My step mother died at 65 you mental midget, together with another 4 million people and counting. Buzz off please and go face your mortality elsewhere: as an exercise in applied Darwinism, and to improve the IQ of the species, please do stop seeking medical treatment for anything that might happen to you - thank you.

Daniel Silk is it ok to have this stuff on here?

Hysterical much? And you want to censor me why? Because I have different view on something from you and you’re overly sensitive? Grow up.

Because your ignorant stupidity has real effects - but oblivious you can’t understand even that. Buzz off and go work on your very own natural selection - thank you.

[LJCal]

Jun 22, 2021 8:41:04 GMT 1 Chris JL said:

Jun 22, 2021 8:18:07 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Hysterical much? And you want to censor me why? Because I have different view on something from you and you’re overly sensitive? Grow up.

Because your ignorant stupidity has real effects - but oblivious you can’t understand even that. Buzz off and go work on your very own natural selection - thank you.

And so does yours, and you can't even understand that. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who clearly has emotional problems, so good luck and hope you get the help you need. 

[astbury]

Jun 22, 2021 10:58:48 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Jun 22, 2021 8:41:04 GMT 1 Chris JL said:

Because your ignorant stupidity has real effects - but oblivious you can’t understand even that. Buzz off and go work on your very own natural selection - thank you.

And so does yours, and you can't even understand that. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who clearly has emotional problems, so good luck and hope you get the help you need. 

LJCal I have to say for me you are overstepping the mark, telling the guy he has "emotional problems" when his Step Mom has died of Covid is very insulting.

[LJCal]

Jun 22, 2021 11:06:10 GMT 1 astbury said:

Jun 22, 2021 10:58:48 GMT 1 LJCal said:

And so does yours, and you can't even understand that. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who clearly has emotional problems, so good luck and hope you get the help you need. 

LJCal I have to say for me you are overstepping the mark, telling the guy he has "emotional problems" when his Step Mom has died of Covid is very insulting.

Insulting to who? I think anytime anyone tries to justify how we have reacted to this they pull out some distant relative who died from Covid, whilst ignoring all the harm that is being done and resource that is being squandered. My Grandmother died from pneumonia in 2018 (another infectious disease), I don't recall me trying to guilt other people for it and requiring people to not live their lives. I have lost a very good friend to suicide last year whose life was completely torn apart, but no one seems to give two thoughts to the victims of lockdowns.  

[Happy Shopper]

Jun 22, 2021 11:47:19 GMT 1 LJCal said:

Jun 22, 2021 11:06:10 GMT 1 astbury said:

LJCal I have to say for me you are overstepping the mark, telling the guy he has "emotional problems" when his Step Mom has died of Covid is very insulting.

Insulting to who? I think anytime anyone tries to justify how we have reacted to this they pull out some distant relative who died from Covid, whilst ignoring all the harm that is being done and resource that is being squandered. My Grandmother died from pneumonia in 2018 (another infectious disease), I don't recall me trying to guilt other people for it and requiring people to not live their lives. I have lost a very good friend to suicide last year whose life was completely torn apart, but no one seems to give two thoughts to the victims of lockdowns.  

Do you not understand that even WITH a total lockdown nearly 128,000 people have died of Covid 19 in the UK? (over 150,000 if you count all who died with Covid on the death certificate, not just in 28 day)
Can you imagine the numbers if we'd just carried on like it was pneumonia or flu !? We'd be like Brazil with half a million dead.

Suicide and other mental health factors are tragic, obviously... but pale in comparison to Covid deaths and long term illness.

[Hairbland]

It would seem that Bambi is not only polarizing but starts conversations that rather than being jovial over a pint likely lead to altercations , verbal or otherwise.

[Coach]

With respect to everyone commenting so far, I really do hope that this forum doesn’t get clogged up with arguments over whether Covid is real or not, exaggerated or not, and whether the vaccines are good or bad.
Facebook is rife with this, and I’ve never seen anyone change another’s mind. Let’s leave those discussion on Facebook huh?
All imho, of course.

[kapusta]

I blame irl1 for resurrecting this thread. I also blame Bambi for her bad art.

[irl1]

Jun 22, 2021 16:14:53 GMT 1 kapusta said:

I blame irl1 for resurrecting this thread. I also blame Bambi for her bad art.

Have mercy on my soul 

[danman]

It seems like this is the „what is art?“ thread. So can please someone answer this question?

[met]

Jun 21, 2021 17:49:00 GMT 1 Chris JL said:

Jun 21, 2021 14:13:12 GMT 1 met said:

Just spotted this thread and decided to indulge in a session of rubbernecking.

__________


Your post caught my eye because I've never witnessed an informed person who genuinely predicted Bambi would be the next Banksy.

If you have a specific example in mind, I'd be interested to check it out, if only to see who made such a claim.


The closest thing I'm aware of was Bambi's representatives cynically resorting to marketing puffery — by always referring to her as "the female Banksy".

That catchy tagline was then often parroted by lazy, ignorant and/or dishonest journalists, online content creators, and resellers of Bambi artwork. In other words, by nobody whose assessment of the artist was ever worth taking seriously.

She was unfortunately (for her own good) introduced with that moniker (the female Banksy) in a BBC service, and then that was repeated by the press (to her own detriment).
I believe that that “title” did not help her much…

I'm always happy to be proven wrong. As a truth-seeker, the motivation is more about getting it right than being right.


Which BBC service in particular?

It's a point of interest to me, because the BBC is one of the platforms I had in my crosshairs when stating above that reference to "the female Banksy" was parroted by lazy, ignorant and/or dishonest journalists.


I myself don't believe the clickbait comparison to Banksy was coined by or originated with the BBC. Instead, like many others (including CNN, The Guardian and The Daily Mail), the BBC appears to have just allowed itself to be used — by echoing, uncritically and without fact-checking, a PR tagline it was fed. And in doing so, the corporation also contributed to a fake-news snowball effect: It further bolstered the perceived accuracy of coattail-riding guff that was originally conceived by Bambi's own representatives.

Even references that are more cautiously worded, such as "Dubbed 'the female Banksy'", are misleading half-truths at best.

The same applies for the list of purported Bambi-collecting celebrities that the likes of Walton Fine Arts and Lenny Villa (Bambi's ex-manager) would spout ad nauseum to whomever listened. There were blatant lies as well, like Villa's claims in 2013* that Bambi is an international pop star who's sold millions of records, or that her paintings were selling "for anything up to £100,000."


Everybody can be deceived. And quite often with great ease. When falsehoods are repeated enough times, especially by multiple sources, they start to become viewed as facts. Marketing 101.

__________


Our opinions differ on the subject of how valuable "the female Banksy" has been to Bambi.

From what I've witnessed, that easily-memorable, forced association with a famous, talented artist — one who commands exceptional levels of media and public interest — has been terrifically successful for Bambi. This, in terms of press attention it has garnered, perception of artistic credibility (again, by association, at least in the eyes of novice or otherwise uninformed collectors), and the presumably increased number of primary and secondary-market sales resulting therefrom.

I would argue that "the female Banksy" has been a parasitic lifeline for Bambi.

She and her dealers have been dining on it for a good decade now. And seemingly without shame.

[.dappy]

... I am almost certain that the tag line 'the female banksy' was first used on the carpet shop website when she was first starting out and they represented her...

... since then she has fallen out with them ...

... as met commented, lazy journalism just then cut and pasted the 'bio' ...

[Chris JL]

Jun 23, 2021 14:20:17 GMT 1 met said:

Jun 21, 2021 17:49:00 GMT 1 Chris JL said:

She was unfortunately (for her own good) introduced with that moniker (the female Banksy) in a BBC service, and then that was repeated by the press (to her own detriment).
I believe that that “title” did not help her much…

I'm always happy to be proven wrong. As a truth-seeker, the motivation is more about getting it right than being right.


Which BBC service in particular?

It's a point of interest to me, because the BBC is one of the platforms I had in my crosshairs when stating above that reference to "the female Banksy" was parroted by lazy, ignorant and/or dishonest journalists.


I myself don't believe the clickbait comparison to Banksy was coined by or originated with the BBC. Instead, like many others (including CNN, The Guardian and The Daily Mail), the BBC appears to have just allowed itself to be used — by echoing, uncritically and without fact-checking, a PR tagline it was fed. And in doing so, the corporation also contributed to a fake-news snowball effect: It further bolstered the perceived accuracy of coattail-riding guff that was originally conceived by Bambi's own representatives.

Even references that are more cautiously worded, such as "Dubbed 'the female Banksy'", are misleading half-truths at best.

The same applies for the list of purported Bambi-collecting celebrities that the likes of Walton Fine Arts and Lenny Villa (Bambi's ex-manager) would spout ad nauseum to whomever listened. There were blatant lies as well, like Villa's claims in 2013* that Bambi is an international pop star who's sold millions of records, or that her paintings were selling "for anything up to £100,000."


Everybody can be deceived. And quite often with great ease. When falsehoods are repeated enough times, especially by multiple sources, they start to become viewed as facts. Marketing 101.

__________


Our opinions differ on the subject of how valuable "the female Banksy" has been to Bambi.

From what I've witnessed, that easily-memorable, forced association with a famous, talented artist — one who commands exceptional levels of media and public interest — has been terrifically successful for Bambi. This, in terms of press attention it has garnered, perception of artistic credibility (again, by association, at least in the eyes of novice or otherwise uninformed collectors), and the presumably increased number of primary and secondary-market sales resulting therefrom.

I would argue that "the female Banksy" has been a parasitic lifeline for Bambi.

She and her dealers have been dining on it for a good decade now. And seemingly without shame.

Let me try to find the clip (I think it was even on here at some point). The BBC just repeating a PR line is well possible - the “lazy” journalist theory is not unlikely.

Honestly not sure about that moniker helping her tbh: 1) a hard benchmark to compare oneself; 2) de facto implies a lower degree of originality - otherwise Banksy would be the male Bambi (I can’t believe I’m writing this 😊); 3) makes gender a salient characteristic, and that normally does not help; 4) and, at least around Shoreditch, I’ve heard that only used as mockery.

But I see your point about the broader audience marketing value, and I think it has merit - albeit her market never really took off much (at least relative to what that comparison would imply). But obviously, in the absence of a counterfactual, it’s hard to assess the commercial effect of that label.