[linter]

   On August 17th, in one of the many Banksy Choose Your Weapon threads, CuriousGeorge wrote: "Given the recent auction history of CYW.If I ever found myself in the position of having to sell I would run to the auction houses. Kinda bluechip image too so you could def haggle a deal on fees
."

I have scoured the internet and can't seem to find the recent auction prices he is talking about.  It's probably due to my dunderheadedness, but if anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd be mighty appreciative.

I'd also be interesting in knowing about any off-auction actual recent CYW selling prices.  Actual, not speculation.

I have a sky blue CYW, with coa, that I'm thinking of selling.  My initial plan had been to hold onto it forever and leave it to my daughter, but she's not that fond of it and, anyway, by that time it could be worthless.  Or worth an even bigger fortune.  Who knows?  But I digress ...

Thanks for any info you can share.  And do you agree with CG, that if one were interesting in maximizing price, an auction house would be the way to go?  and which auction house?

thanks!

[johnnyh]

One of the members here put on into a French Auction and it did really well. Remember you do have to pay the auction house fees/% of the sale. Not all sales go as well as that one and for that piece which is both the beauty and problem with auctions. It is an auction a few buyers want it and the price goes up...not many buyers and the price is stagnant. You can always agree a reserve etc.

Or you can just put a price on it and sell privately or to a gallery.

Eg if the market value is 10 and you sell privately for 9 or 10 that's what you get.
If you sell at auction and it sells for market value you get 9/10 less the fees
But if sells at auction for 15 you pay fees and get 12 etc

So auction can be better but it also may not be there is an element of risk involved. If you don't want that risk do a straight sale it's easy and you hopefully get the price you want. But if you take a bit of risk you can come out on top or as one member here did I would say get well a head of general market value

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Gotta agree Johnny that CYW was because there was a few people in the room who wanted it. Don't think all CYW will sell for that figure again for a long time, if ever!

[linter]

OK guys, you r killing me with how discreet you're being. . Exactly how much did that cyw go for that I'll never see a price close to?

[Deleted]

Aug 31, 2014 21:17:13 GMT 1 linter said:

OK guys, you r killing me with how discreet you're being. . Exactly how much did that cyw go for that I'll never see a price close to?

£16,000 from memory

[Shrink]

Aug 31, 2014 21:17:13 GMT 1 linter said:

OK guys, you r killing me with how discreet you're being. . Exactly how much did that cyw go for that I'll never see a price close to?

There is Urban Art Auction section on this forum. Click. Find `French auction MM Contemporary..` Click. Lots of info on this forum if you look around. 

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urbanartassociation.com/thread/117671/cyw-sold-29k-hammer-discuss

[bjornca]

I use this site frequently to see historical auction results (doesn't always have everything though).

www.findartinfo.com

[linter]

thanks very much, all. the last two findartinfo.com sales -- at $15.5K US and $19k US -- were in 2013. what would be interesting to find is a CYW sale that came after the nutso-wacko French auction sale in June. The bunch o Banksy's at the Philips auction didn't include a CYW, and if one recently went on eBay, i can't find it. So here I stand, scratching my head. any other thoughts?

[Dice]

Sept 1, 2014 15:14:39 GMT 1 linter said:

thanks very much, all. the last two findartinfo.com sales -- at $15.5K US and $19k US -- were in 2013. what would be interesting to find is a CYW sale that came after the nutso-wacko French auction sale in June. The bunch o Banksy's at the Philips auction didn't include a CYW, and if one recently went on eBay, i can't find it. So here I stand, scratching my head. any other thoughts?

The best way to find out the value is to sell it on eBay, at 99p no reserve. That way you'll also be doing a valuation service of sorts to the community of other CYW owners...thanks in advance

[Deleted]

Take it to auction with a realistic reserve, at this price point is ebay the answer?

[Shrink]

Sept 1, 2014 21:32:32 GMT 1 @lurkersutd said:

Take it to auction with a realistic reserve, at this price point is ebay the answer?

If the question is provenance; no!

[linter]

Sept 1, 2014 21:32:32 GMT 1 @lurkersutd said:

Take it to auction with a realistic reserve, at this price point is ebay the answer?

   ah, well, that's a question i haven't exactly figured out.  anyone care to hazard a guess, with the logic spelled out?   certainly, the fees would be less on eBay.  if i sold it for 24k US, total fees, ebay and paypal, would be $950, or around 4%.  ain't gonna get any better than that -- in terms of fees only, of course.  so, the question remains: is ebay the answer at this price point?

   i sure would lllllove to put it on ebay with a 99 cent opening bid -- gawd, that'd be fun -- but i hate ebay auctions with a reserve and no way would i chance it without one on my precious cyw.

    what to do, what to do (drums fingers).

[lee3]

Artnet has sold a lot of them over the past couple years and i suspect you can only find those results at artnet itself. Here are the couple handfuls of them that have auctioned publicly since the beginning of 2013:

1
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon
Medium prints and multiples, screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Size Height 23.6 in.; Width 23.6 in. / Height 60 cm.; Width 60 cm.
Edition of 58
Found./Pub. Pictures on Walls, pub.
Misc. Signed
Sale of artnet Auctions: Thursday, June 12, 2014 [Lot 98068]
artnet Auctions
Estimate 16,000 - 20,000 USD
Sold For 19,200 USD Premium Currency Converter

2
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon
Description Choose Your Weapon Sérigraphie en couleurs avec marges, signée, numérotée en bas à More ...
Medium color silkscreen
Year of Work 2010
Size Height 23.6 in.; Width 23.6 in. / Height 60 cm.; Width 60 cm.
Edition 22/25
Found./Pub. Pictures on Walls, pub.
Misc. Signed
Sale of Digard: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 [Lot 00096]
Art Contemporain urbain
Estimate 12,000 - 15,000 EUR (16,238 - 20,297 USD)
Sold For 36,656 EUR (49,602 USD) Hammer Currency Converter

3
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon
Medium prints and multiples, screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Printing/Casting 2010
Size Height 23.6 in.; Width 23.6 in. / Height 60 cm.; Width 60 cm.
Edition of 25
Misc. Signed
Sale of artnet Auctions: Thursday, March 6, 2014 [Lot 96271]
artnet Auctions
Estimate 18,000 - 22,000 USD
Sold For 21,000 USD Premium Currency Converter

4
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon (Dark Orange)
Description Screenprint in colours, on wove paper, with full margins,signed in orange crayon More ...
Medium color screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Size Height 23.6 in.; Width 23.6 in. / Height 60 cm.; Width 60 cm.
Edition 23/25
Found./Pub. Pictures on Walls, pub.
Misc. Signed
Sale of Phillips London: Thursday, December 12, 2013 [Lot 00126]
Editions Day
Estimate 5,000 - 7,000 GBP (8,164 - 11,430 USD)
Sold For 10,000 GBP (16,329 USD) Premium Currency Converter

5
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon - Dark Orange (Signed - Authenticated)
Medium prints and multiples, serigraph / screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Printing/Casting 2010
Size Height 24 in.; Width 24 in. / Height 61 cm.; Width 61 cm.
Edition 16/25
Found./Pub. Pictures on Walls, pub.
Misc. Signed
Sale of artnet Auctions: Thursday, November 7, 2013 [Lot 92857]
artnet Auctions
Estimate 15,000 - 20,000 USD
Sold For 18,000 USD Premium Currency Converter

6
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon - Khaki (Signed - Authenticated)
Medium prints and multiples, serigraph / screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Printing/Casting 2010
Size Height 27.6 in.; Width 24 in. / Height 70.1 cm.; Width 61 cm.
Edition of 25
Found./Pub. Pictures on Walls, pub.
Misc. Signed
Sale of artnet Auctions: Thursday, November 7, 2013 [Lot 92893]
artnet Auctions
Estimate 15,000 - 20,000 USD
Sold For 16,800 USD Premium Currency Converter

7
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon
Medium prints and multiples, serigraph / screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Printing/Casting 2010
Size Height 24 in.; Width 24 in. / Height 61 cm.; Width 61 cm.
Edition 25
Found./Pub. Picturesonwalls
Misc. Signed
Sale of artnet Auctions: Thursday, September 26, 2013 [Lot 71287]
artnet Auctions
Estimate 17,000 - 20,000 USD
Sold For 18,400 USD Premium Currency Converter

8
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon (Turquoise)
Description screenprint in colours, 2010, on wove paper, signed in turquoise pencil, numbered More ...
Medium color screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Size Height 23.8 in.; Width 23.8 in. / Height 60.4 cm.; Width 60.5 cm.
Edition 15/25
Found./Pub. Pictures on Walls, pub.
Misc. Signed
Sale of Christie's South Kensington: Thursday, September 19, 2013 [Lot 00171]
Prints & Multiples
Estimate 5,000 - 7,000 GBP (8,020 - 11,228 USD)
Sold For 12,500 GBP (20,051 USD) Premium Currency Converter

9
Banksy
Title Choose Your Weapon (Magenta)
Description Screenprint in colours, on wove paper, with full margins, I. 60 x 60 cm (23 5/8 x 23 More ...
Medium color screenprint
Year of Work 2010
Size Height 23.6 in.; Width 23.6 in. / Height 60 cm.; Width 60 cm.
Edition 22/25
Found./Pub. Pictures on Walls, pub.
Misc. Signed
Sale of Phillips London: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 [Lot 00086]
Inaugural Evening Sale: Editions
Estimate 5,000 - 7,000 GBP (7,565 - 10,591 USD)
Sold For 15,000 GBP (22,696 USD) Premium Currency Converter

[beenrhymin]

Aug 31, 2014 19:53:37 GMT 1 johnnyh said:

One of the members here put on into a French Auction and it did really well. Remember you do have to pay the auction house fees/% of the sale. Not all sales go as well as that one and for that piece which is both the beauty and problem with auctions. It is an auction a few buyers want it and the price goes up...not many buyers and the price is stagnant. You can always agree a reserve etc.

Or you can just put a price on it and sell privately or to a gallery.

Eg if the market value is 10 and you sell privately for 9 or 10 that's what you get.
If you sell at auction and it sells for market value you get 9/10 less the fees
But if sells at auction for 15 you pay fees and get 12 etc

So auction can be better but it also may not be there is an element of risk involved. If you don't want that risk do a straight sale it's easy and you hopefully get the price you want. But if you take a bit of risk you can come out on top or as one member here did I would say get well a head of general market value

Artnet doesnt charge the seller any fees.... but i would agree with the rest

[johnnyh]

Sept 2, 2014 14:22:40 GMT 1 beenrhymin said:

Aug 31, 2014 19:53:37 GMT 1 johnnyh said:

One of the members here put on into a French Auction and it did really well. Remember you do have to pay the auction house fees/% of the sale. Not all sales go as well as that one and for that piece which is both the beauty and problem with auctions. It is an auction a few buyers want it and the price goes up...not many buyers and the price is stagnant. You can always agree a reserve etc.

Or you can just put a price on it and sell privately or to a gallery.

Eg if the market value is 10 and you sell privately for 9 or 10 that's what you get.
If you sell at auction and it sells for market value you get 9/10 less the fees
But if sells at auction for 15 you pay fees and get 12 etc

So auction can be better but it also may not be there is an element of risk involved. If you don't want that risk do a straight sale it's easy and you hopefully get the price you want. But if you take a bit of risk you can come out on top or as one member here did I would say get well a head of general market value

Artnet doesnt charge the seller any fees.... but i would agree with the rest

Thx I stand corrected but I didn't mention Artnet. It was an example for info to help him make his decision.
but thx for your agreement with the rest...I feel much better now I have your approval

[beenrhymin]

Sept 2, 2014 14:43:23 GMT 1 johnnyh said:

Sept 2, 2014 14:22:40 GMT 1 beenrhymin said:

Artnet doesnt charge the seller any fees.... but i would agree with the rest

Thx I stand corrected but I didn't mention Artnet. It was an example for info to help him make his decision.
but thx for your agreement with the rest...I feel much better now I have your approval

ouch, sorry, thought you were referencing the CYW sales mentioned above but i see i am wrong!