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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 18, 2014 13:46:12 GMT 1, Great AP. I like the traces of the bruhs on the blue and the red. Amazing print ! You are lucky mate ! And... Don't forget ot put it on..... Royston ' s wall !
Great AP. I like the traces of the bruhs on the blue and the red. Amazing print ! You are lucky mate ! And... Don't forget ot put it on..... Royston ' s wall ! |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 18, 2014 13:46:53 GMT 1, What I don't understand is how do you do to have updates on your IG ?! You are always on POW Ig or what ?! Ot there is some settings to do on the phone ? It's called the 'Vigilance' setting; you turn it all the way up.
What I don't understand is how do you do to have updates on your IG ?! You are always on POW Ig or what ?! Ot there is some settings to do on the phone ? It's called the 'Vigilance' setting; you turn it all the way up. Lol, you never sleep and take pills so ?! ;-) |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 18, 2014 13:49:23 GMT 1, I bet not many had that in the "I hope this comes out of their archive and on sale" wishlist. I got an email from Dora this morning, two people (inc. me) had bought the same Star Eyes print. So I got allocated another number. She also told me to look out for some unsigned Banksy's later this month. * * This sentence is not true. It is a complete lie. She never said anything of the kind.
I bet not many had that in the "I hope this comes out of their archive and on sale" wishlist. I got an email from Dora this morning, two people (inc. me) had bought the same Star Eyes print. So I got allocated another number. She also told me to look out for some unsigned Banksy's later this month. * * This sentence is not true. It is a complete lie. She never said anything of the kind. Could you telle us more my firend ? I am a little french lost on the market prints over the channel.. Some msut be reserved anyway.. No Clockworth nor Invader at the horizon ? Banksy soon ? Thanks for the inof anyway ! |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 13:50:58 GMT 1, It's called the 'Vigilance' setting; you turn it all the way up. Lol, you never sleep and take pills so ?! ;-)
Frankly, I don't know why I'm still trying. I was there right when they threw up BSF (like the second it happened; had edition numbers 7 and 8 in my cart), and carted it seven times but couldn't checkout because my bank thought it was credit card fraud.
So basically I would add to cart, checkout, pay through sagepay four times with the site saying my card authorisation failed each time, and then go back and do it all over again. Seven times haha; never got the print.
That experience alone should've sent me packing, but there are too many great artists on that site.
It's called the 'Vigilance' setting; you turn it all the way up. Lol, you never sleep and take pills so ?! ;-) Frankly, I don't know why I'm still trying. I was there right when they threw up BSF (like the second it happened; had edition numbers 7 and 8 in my cart), and carted it seven times but couldn't checkout because my bank thought it was credit card fraud. So basically I would add to cart, checkout, pay through sagepay four times with the site saying my card authorisation failed each time, and then go back and do it all over again. Seven times haha; never got the print. That experience alone should've sent me packing, but there are too many great artists on that site. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Phear Loathing on Jun 18, 2014 13:58:56 GMT 1, Where do you actually get links to buy?
Where do you actually get links to buy?
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 14:00:01 GMT 1, I hear that a lot  Well, I put it twice on ebay, ready to go ( the grey package is a bit fold but it came like that - I won it from VNA on Facebook ) .. IN the other way, the awesome stickers and signed cover, the book is really great ! Maybe I wil put it on ebay again...
I hear that a lot Well, I put it twice on ebay, ready to go ( the grey package is a bit fold but it came like that - I won it from VNA on Facebook ) .. IN the other way, the awesome stickers and signed cover, the book is really great ! Maybe I wil put it on ebay again... if you do let me know. I'll take it |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by davedandconfused on Jun 18, 2014 14:05:44 GMT 1, M16 Lolly, M16 Lolly, M16 Lolly
Go on, please, M16 Lolly, M16 lolly I'll keep going till I will it into existence 
M16 Lolly, M16 Lolly, M16 Lolly Go on, please, M16 Lolly, M16 lolly I'll keep going till I will it into existence |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 18, 2014 14:09:16 GMT 1, Well, I put it twice on ebay, ready to go ( the grey package is a bit fold but it came like that - I won it from VNA on Facebook ) .. IN the other way, the awesome stickers and signed cover, the book is really great ! Maybe I wil put it on ebay again... if you do let me know. I'll take it
Well, I put it twice on ebay, ready to go ( the grey package is a bit fold but it came like that - I won it from VNA on Facebook ) .. IN the other way, the awesome stickers and signed cover, the book is really great ! Maybe I wil put it on ebay again... if you do let me know. I'll take it Tomorrow, between 3 appointement with doctors ( hzealth is not a print ) , I will sell on Ebay. I need money for holidays. What ? I don't know yet but I have some ideas... I will tell you if so.. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by smallbylo on Jun 18, 2014 14:28:59 GMT 1, What I don't understand is how do you do to have updates on your IG ?! You are always on POW Ig or what ?! Ot there is some settings to do on the phone ?
What I don't understand is how do you do to have updates on your IG ?! You are always on POW Ig or what ?! Ot there is some settings to do on the phone ? in this case, just luck. I looked and there it was. Easy. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by South Bound on Jun 18, 2014 14:35:01 GMT 1, 5 Aiko print just went back up (sold out earlier today) check NOW
5 Aiko print just went back up (sold out earlier today) check NOW
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 14:38:54 GMT 1, 5 Aiko print just went back up (sold out earlier today) check NOW
I remember when these were originally released. They seemed high priced at the time and I recall most were bought by flippers who got a bit burnt
5 Aiko print just went back up (sold out earlier today) check NOW I remember when these were originally released. They seemed high priced at the time and I recall most were bought by flippers who got a bit burnt |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Phear Loathing on Jun 18, 2014 14:54:41 GMT 1, Can anyone pm where you goto buy this stuff?
Can anyone pm where you goto buy this stuff?
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by South Bound on Jun 18, 2014 14:55:21 GMT 1, 5 Aiko print just went back up (sold out earlier today) check NOW I remember when these were originally released. They seemed high priced at the time and I recall most were bought by flippers who got a bit burnt
Yep, to rich for my blood.
5 Aiko print just went back up (sold out earlier today) check NOW I remember when these were originally released. They seemed high priced at the time and I recall most were bought by flippers who got a bit burnt Yep, to rich for my blood. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 14:59:30 GMT 1, I can see that, Aiko, like Swoon, seems to have crap secondary market value.
I can see that, Aiko, like Swoon, seems to have crap secondary market value.
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by South Bound on Jun 18, 2014 15:14:05 GMT 1, I can see that, Aiko, like Swoon, seems to have crap secondary market value.
I just got my first Swoon and it is probably the best looking piece I have... Granted a lot of her other work uses a lot of neutral tones and are not the most striking. But "Nee Nee" is very impressive. I look forward to framing.
I can see that, Aiko, like Swoon, seems to have crap secondary market value. I just got my first Swoon and it is probably the best looking piece I have... Granted a lot of her other work uses a lot of neutral tones and are not the most striking. But "Nee Nee" is very impressive. I look forward to framing. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 15:16:46 GMT 1, I can see that, Aiko, like Swoon, seems to have crap secondary market value. I just got my first Swoon and it is probably the best looking piece I have... Granted a lot of her other work uses a lot of neutral tones and are not the most striking. But "Nee Nee" is very impressive. I look forward to framing.
I love her stuff as well, don't get me wrong, I was only saying those two artists have zero flip potential
I love my Aiko piece and still hope to find a small Swoon original on found object some day.
I can see that, Aiko, like Swoon, seems to have crap secondary market value. I just got my first Swoon and it is probably the best looking piece I have... Granted a lot of her other work uses a lot of neutral tones and are not the most striking. But "Nee Nee" is very impressive. I look forward to framing. I love her stuff as well, don't get me wrong, I was only saying those two artists have zero flip potential I love my Aiko piece and still hope to find a small Swoon original on found object some day. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by South Bound on Jun 18, 2014 15:32:49 GMT 1, I just got my first Swoon and it is probably the best looking piece I have... Granted a lot of her other work uses a lot of neutral tones and are not the most striking. But "Nee Nee" is very impressive. I look forward to framing. I love her stuff as well, don't get me wrong, I was only saying those two artists have zero flip potential I love my Aiko piece and still hope to find a small Swoon original on found object some day.
Oh no worries, you should look at "Nee Nee" it is still on her site. The pictures don't do it justice.
I just got my first Swoon and it is probably the best looking piece I have... Granted a lot of her other work uses a lot of neutral tones and are not the most striking. But "Nee Nee" is very impressive. I look forward to framing. I love her stuff as well, don't get me wrong, I was only saying those two artists have zero flip potential I love my Aiko piece and still hope to find a small Swoon original on found object some day. Oh no worries, you should look at "Nee Nee" it is still on her site. The pictures don't do it justice. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Neate Michael on Jun 18, 2014 18:22:21 GMT 1, I bet not many had that in the "I hope this comes out of their archive and on sale" wishlist. I got an email from Dora this morning, two people (inc. me) had bought the same Star Eyes print. So I got allocated another number. She also told me to look out for some unsigned Banksy's later this month. * * This sentence is not true. It is a complete lie. She never said anything of the kind. Could you telle us more my firend ? I am a little french lost on the market prints over the channel.. Some msut be reserved anyway.. No Clockworth nor Invader at the horizon ? Banksy soon ? Thanks for the inof anyway !
I bet not many had that in the "I hope this comes out of their archive and on sale" wishlist. I got an email from Dora this morning, two people (inc. me) had bought the same Star Eyes print. So I got allocated another number. She also told me to look out for some unsigned Banksy's later this month. * * This sentence is not true. It is a complete lie. She never said anything of the kind. Could you telle us more my firend ? I am a little french lost on the market prints over the channel.. Some msut be reserved anyway.. No Clockworth nor Invader at the horizon ? Banksy soon ? Thanks for the inof anyway ! Believe it or not Dora at POW just told me my new print number. I did not ask about any other releases because there was no point.. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 18, 2014 18:28:35 GMT 1, Could you telle us more my firend ? I am a little french lost on the market prints over the channel.. Some msut be reserved anyway.. No Clockworth nor Invader at the horizon ? Banksy soon ? Thanks for the inof anyway ! Believe it or not Dora at POW just told me my new print number. I did not ask about any other releases because there was no point..
Could you telle us more my firend ? I am a little french lost on the market prints over the channel.. Some msut be reserved anyway.. No Clockworth nor Invader at the horizon ? Banksy soon ? Thanks for the inof anyway ! Believe it or not Dora at POW just told me my new print number. I did not ask about any other releases because there was no point.. I know, I pm her ( I did not remember if Pow took Paypal, and she forgot to answer me about that, lol ) , and she sends me a nice and lovely message. It will be all the month, great but few stuff to come... You have I think to be scotched to your IG, night and day ! |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 19:30:29 GMT 1, Believe it or not Dora at POW just told me my new print number. I did not ask about any other releases because there was no point.. I know, I pm her ( I did not remember if Pow took Paypal, and she forgot to answer me about that, lol ) , and she sends me a nice and lovely message. It will be all the month, great but few stuff to come... You have I think to be scotched to your IG, night and day !
did she say it was only for the month of June?
Believe it or not Dora at POW just told me my new print number. I did not ask about any other releases because there was no point.. I know, I pm her ( I did not remember if Pow took Paypal, and she forgot to answer me about that, lol ) , and she sends me a nice and lovely message. It will be all the month, great but few stuff to come... You have I think to be scotched to your IG, night and day ! did she say it was only for the month of June? |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 18, 2014 19:42:17 GMT 1, " No planning times ( ... ) , just post an image on Ig to let people know what we found ( ... ) , " its been a long time coming " ( ... ) , etc, etc...
No information, no time, just to follow on IG, but as I understood ( and as said ) a lot of archiving and work to do !
I think that patience and luck will be on the party !
Cool, easy, day by day.... As Pow, I presume ;-)
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" No planning times ( ... ) , just post an image on Ig to let people know what we found ( ... ) , " its been a long time coming " ( ... ) , etc, etc... No information, no time, just to follow on IG, but as I understood ( and as said ) a lot of archiving and work to do ! I think that patience and luck will be on the party ! Cool, easy, day by day.... As Pow, I presume ;-) coller |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Johnnyroyale on Jun 19, 2014 9:15:21 GMT 1, I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought?
I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought?
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 19, 2014 18:11:50 GMT 1, I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought?
The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG...
Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ).
Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster...
I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought? Maybe the best mates of Pow are already the first served ! I am sure ( who could be , in this Boring and busy world - I stay polite - , 24h on 24h on his IG ?.. Nobody, not me )... The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG... Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ). Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster... |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 18:20:28 GMT 1, I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought? Maybe the best mates of Pow are already the first served ! I am sure ( who could be , in this Boring and busy world - I stay polite - , 24h on 24h on his IG ?.. Nobody, not me )... The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG... Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ). Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster...
I e-mailed her when I had one of the BSFs in my cart trying to pay with paypal, but naturally expecting to close something via paypal/email in 20 minutes is asking a lot.
I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought? Maybe the best mates of Pow are already the first served ! I am sure ( who could be , in this Boring and busy world - I stay polite - , 24h on 24h on his IG ?.. Nobody, not me )... The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG... Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ). Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster... They probably do take paypal if you email them, but I doubt they will for one of these archive releases that get snatched up really quick. I e-mailed her when I had one of the BSFs in my cart trying to pay with paypal, but naturally expecting to close something via paypal/email in 20 minutes is asking a lot. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Happy Shopper on Jun 19, 2014 18:38:16 GMT 1, I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought? Maybe the best mates of Pow are already the first served ! I am sure ( who could be , in this Boring and busy world - I stay polite - , 24h on 24h on his IG ?.. Nobody, not me )... The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG... Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ). Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster...
No tricks or reserved prints. From what I've seen it's just first come, first served.
I've been on there pretty quick each time and scored a bast, hewlett, and could of got the insect "star eyes" too but decided against it!! No special treatment... just watching this site, and sometimes Instagram!!
I may be wrong but there maybe a clue on what may come through the archives releases- POW list prints as either currently unavailable or sold out -the last few archive prints released were listed as unavailable e.g star eyes and now are listed as sold out. Just a thought? Maybe the best mates of Pow are already the first served ! I am sure ( who could be , in this Boring and busy world - I stay polite - , 24h on 24h on his IG ?.. Nobody, not me )... The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG... Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ). Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster... No tricks or reserved prints. From what I've seen it's just first come, first served. I've been on there pretty quick each time and scored a bast, hewlett, and could of got the insect "star eyes" too but decided against it!! No special treatment... just watching this site, and sometimes Instagram!! |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 19, 2014 18:58:37 GMT 1, Maybe the best mates of Pow are already the first served ! I am sure ( who could be , in this Boring and busy world - I stay polite - , 24h on 24h on his IG ?.. Nobody, not me )... The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG... Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ). Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster... No tricks or reserved prints. From what I've seen it's just first come, first served. I've been on there pretty quick each time and scored a bast, hewlett, and could of got the insect "star eyes" too but decided against it!! No special treatment... just watching this site, and sometimes Instagram!!
Maybe the best mates of Pow are already the first served ! I am sure ( who could be , in this Boring and busy world - I stay polite - , 24h on 24h on his IG ?.. Nobody, not me )... The deal is flawed! The first hair goatee printed before the publication on IG... Could we be angry because of that ? No, it is the game, most of the prints coming out are reserved. I can tell you a great artist made this for me ( I am not proud, nor ashamed, that's like that ). Anyway, may quesiotn was ( Dora did not answered it ) : Does PoW take Paypal ? ( I don't think so ) ... In case of a miracle.. Have to feed my bankster... No tricks or reserved prints. From what I've seen it's just first come, first served. I've been on there pretty quick each time and scored a bast, hewlett, and could of got the insect "star eyes" too but decided against it!! No special treatment... just watching this site, and sometimes Instagram!! Thanks a lot for your explanation Happyshopper. Anyway I did not critcize this method. Knowing that, now, gives me more respectr for Pow about their integrity, to be honnest with the fan, all the fans ! The problem for me, will be with Paypal : I can't put some money on my account... I don't think that they accept it. Cheers all ! |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by atom on Jun 21, 2014 14:52:52 GMT 1, 
Picked this antique frame up from a local junk shop. Had my framer frame to make sure all was good.
Picked this antique frame up from a local junk shop. Had my framer frame to make sure all was good. |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 21, 2014 16:08:49 GMT 1, Picked this antique frame up from a local junk shop. Had my framer frame to make sure it was all good.
Picked this antique frame up from a local junk shop. Had my framer frame to make sure it was all good. Oh my god ! Very classy ! |
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by atom on Jun 21, 2014 23:10:37 GMT 1, Thanks dod ! Needed a new back but cost peanuts to do.
Thanks dod ! Needed a new back but cost peanuts to do.
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Lroy on Jun 21, 2014 23:24:19 GMT 1, I find it al. right really ! Gold treasure ...the yellow/orange fits well with the colt it the frame and leaving the background with the paper is fine, very classy
I find it al. right really ! Gold treasure ...the yellow/orange fits well with the colt it the frame and leaving the background with the paper is fine, very classy
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