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Good Afternoon, I am looking for any info on where I could go to research an unsigned piece of atr that seems very similiar to keith harings work. Its a double sided piece of black fiberboard with these images painted on. I purchased from an auction of the storage contents of the national arts club in new york during their renovation. Its well framed nailed and glued together to protect the work. I ca t seem to find other haring similar pieces to this work so any ideas would be appreciated. Maybe someone did it in his style? Attached are an image of front and back.

Cheers and thanks.

[tartarus]

I'm no expert, there are similarities. But who know. Utterly love that hippo though!!

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Me too.

[tartarus]

May 2, 2014 20:39:43 GMT 1 @wizbong said:

Me too.

Id buy it! But pretty much only if its not Haring. Maybe out of range a little if it is :-)

[opalis141]

Have you tried the keith haring foundation? They no longer serve as an authentication panel but they do have a pretty comprehensive database of his work. Also the Brooklyn Museum had a large show of his work a year or two ago and might be able to point you in the right direction of an expert if you emailed them.

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Unless you can find photo documentation of whatever the piece was before being taken apart, you should treat it as NOT a Haring.

You can put some money into one of the few Haring experts for an opinion, but even with that it will be an opinion. Tricky business authenticating Haring, Warhol and Basquiat these days after the foundations screwed up so royally they were all forced to stop authenticating art.

Just as a fan on first glance Id say it has some strong similarities but I have my doubts.

[metropolis]

I think these might be by James de la Vega.

[Lesson1]

Whoever it's by I love it and would have it hanging on my wall. Good buy, enjoy it

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Thanks all for your opinions.  Normally I would think this was just a copycat of his work however the auction I bought if from had a lot of great works from the nat. Arts center.  Some big ticket items.  Many with catalog numbers etc.  the other two pieces I bought have catalog numbers etc.  this one I don't see one however I haven't been able to take it apart as it's well glued together.  Either way the center has been little help as this was one of hundreds of pieces that came from their storage so who knows.  I took a shot as it just had a great look and at some point the center felt it was worth owning.  It's just that I have no idea how to authenticate without spending mucho dollars.

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I guess the trouble is it could very well be a tribute piece, given to them.

With the hippo being outside of his more well known iconography, it could either be good or bad. If you're going to outright fake a Haring you wouldn't pick your own animal you would stick with the classics.

On the other hand the line work looks a little jittery from what I could see on the outlines, dashes and accent marks. And that heart seems a bit crowded.

Interesting piece but with the value of it if real being at least very high 5 figures to maybe even 6 figures, experts aren't going to stick their necks out for a piece without very strong provenance.

But you never know? It's too bad there is no further info from the club that owned it. That would be the place to start. Keep bugging them. Maybe someone still knows something

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That's my thoughts as well.  If your going to fake it your not going to go that far outside the norm.  But then there are some other things like the crosses on the eyes that he used as a symbol that makes me wonder.  Also those shaky lines are from it be painted invertaded by outline.  The national arts center was somewhat big time in NYC for a long time.  But who knows could be a tribute piece maybe used for an exhibition in the past etc.  I just hate investing a lot if there is no way to really know.

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Yeah, if you are serious then you NEED to get on touch with multiple people at the club and try to track down some info about it. They should have some accession notes if it was ever in their collection. If it was not ever formally in their collection, that would be very bad news

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I'm going to keep trying but with the fallout there it's been difficult.  Google the nat. Arts club and you'll see what I mean.  Just out of curiosity if I can somehow prove this is legit what could it be worth anyway?  I'm not a collector of his art just came along this at the auction and am learning as I go along.

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The high value is actually a problem to getting the unusual authenticated.

I'm no expert but I would guess, as I said earlier, high 5 and into possibly 6 figures if it were proven without a doubt to be real. But the reality of that happening based on what you're saying is pretty slim. All that could change with documentation from the source.

[Wearology]

This is the letter that Keith Haring wrote to LA2 / Angel Ortiz's school teacher explaining why Angel was not in school the past 7 days.  

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I think I'm going to have to rip this apart to make sure I'm missing nothing under the matting etc.  thing is nailed and glued together solid.

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As mentioned the Keith haring Institute has a huge database of his work for you to check the imagery against.
These guys do Authentications but I think it would be more for your own piece of mind rather than for Authentication for on Selling.
www.keithharingauthentication.com/index.html

Artsy also have a huge list of works sold with images and prices realised.
artsy.net/artist/keith-haring/auction-results

Its a pity the institute don't authenticate any more as there doesn't seem to be any one who can.

I have a subway chalk drawing in my collection but I cant get it authenticated either.
Not that the Institute authenticated them anyway as they were never meant to be sold to the public.

Good luck and if you find anyone that can authenticate your works let me know.

cheers

[Wearology]

After researching a bit it seems that whenever Keith wrote the word New York on his art it usually had some sort of movement to it - it was more animated and cartoonish than this artists hand writing.  Keith mostly referred to New York as NYC or N.Y.C.  He rarely used the R with a circle around it and preferred a C with a circe around it.  Below is an example of how Keith wrote the words New York.
 

[vinzc]

I have a friend that recently left the haring foundation. I'll send her a copy of the pic to see if she can add some color.

Good detective work wear!

[mmmike]

I'm not an expert, just a fan. I'm not sure why people think this would be by Haring. Haring's style is maybe the most emulated of any street artist. There are some elements that look like the pics were done by a fan or emulator  but it doesn't look like anything I've ever seen by haring. If I was able to bet on if this was a Haring, I'd bet the house against it. Would never would have crossed my mind that it might be. 

[Momo]

May 2, 2014 23:32:08 GMT 1 Lesson1 said:

Whoever it's by I love it and would have it hanging on my wall. Good buy, enjoy it

Yeah that hippo is sweeeeeet

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May 3, 2014 12:47:46 GMT 1 mmmike said:

I'm not an expert, just a fan. I'm not sure why people thing this would be by Haring. Haring's style is maybe the most emulated of any street artist. There are some elements that look like the pics were done by a fan or emulator  but it doesn't look like anything I've ever seen by haring. If I was able to bet on if this was a Haring, I'd bet the house against it. Would never would have crossed my mind that it might be. 

Except one should not be so quick to judge.... Everyone knows the classic Haring images, but that is not by far all that he has done.

Looking at some of the elements of this out of context many would tihink this was a copy...

I don't hold out much hope that it will be authenticated, but I wouldn't be so brash as to claim I was an authority that could say either way

[mmmike]

Don't get me wrong it could have been done by hearing but I doubt it. For every piece that has similarities to this one there are hundreds others that are not by haring.

That crib is very Keith haring. The picture in question not so much.

[mandingo]

There is no fluidity/flow to these pieces. It looks Like someone has taken there time to draw these to emulate haring . Haring worked fast and had a natural movement in his hand almost effortless that was his genius.

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